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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Apr 19, 2017 21:13:11 GMT
Personally, there is SO MUCH POTENTIAL in Andromeda that just didn't shine through. That's not untrue, but I also think it's ab it more complicated than that. I think Andromeda was a dead end in the sense that it was as good as those people could do it. Even if EA delayed for a year it would still be, in essence, the same thing, only more polished. The key problems would still be there and so on. So the idea behind Andromeda had more potential, but not the game as it is. That is very true.
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Post by hector535 on Apr 19, 2017 21:14:14 GMT
Personally, there is SO MUCH POTENTIAL in Andromeda that just didn't shine through. That's not untrue, but I also think it's ab it more complicated than that. I think Andromeda was a dead end in the sense that it was as good as those people could do it. Even if EA delayed for a year it would still be, in essence, the same thing, only more polished. The key problems would still be there and so on. So the idea behind Andromeda had more potential, but not the game as it is. I agree, the game just needed polish. As for the plot, I believe they made it thinking of future dlc and games. MEA is like the first season of a series, there are so many things that didn't get closure and for me that's okay because there will be future game addressing those issues. The thing i don't know is if we'll be Ryder again...
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 19, 2017 21:35:34 GMT
That's not untrue, but I also think it's ab it more complicated than that. I think Andromeda was a dead end in the sense that it was as good as those people could do it. Even if EA delayed for a year it would still be, in essence, the same thing, only more polished. The key problems would still be there and so on. So the idea behind Andromeda had more potential, but not the game as it is. I agree, the game just needed polish. Well, I said the exactly opposite! The game needed polish, tons of it. But no amount of polish would make Andromeda a fundamentally better game. It's key flaws are not in animations or character design (although both hurt the game) but quest structure, roleplaying, story, writing, etc.
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Post by sdzald on Apr 19, 2017 21:43:18 GMT
First let me say I love the Witcher 3 and find all kinds of things worng with MEA.
With that said. I hate comparisons like this. When I bought MEA I did NOT want to play another Witcher game. I wanted to play another Mass Effect game. I like verity in my gaming and when I heard one of the producers of MEA talk about how they wanted to make it like the Witcher 3 I cringed, and knew then it was in trouble.
One last note, as much as I liked Witcher and as much as I am just 'trying to get through' MEA there is one comparison I will make. Combat, and honestly MEA's combat is much better.
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Post by jastall on Apr 19, 2017 21:58:36 GMT
granted. But compared to Ryder? Compared to people's perceptions? It just seems like people miss being an over competent super soldier who can kick ass and essentialy do no wrong and can.even bully galactic governments. Whereas Ryder is 'only human' makes mistakes isn't.always confident and is often called out on their bull crap. A character who has to grow and learn rather then just being a bad ass from now till eternity. Ryder doesn't seem any less competent than Shepard honestly. The MET may tell you that Shepard is awesome, but you never actually see it.
That's one problem I had with the original trilogy, Shepard often looks in cut scenes like a bumbling idiot rather than the super-soldier he is supposed to be. There's a severe disconnect between the "show" and the "tell" parts of the story.
As for Ryder, I actually liked that he sounds smarter than Shepard most of the time if you choose the more brainy conversation options. And actually, when you think about it, a Pathfinder is not too different from a Spectre when it comes to their job and influence, even if you don't have a "license to kill" precisely.
I don't see any real difference honestly, aside from the overall scope of the story, or the idiotic insistence that the Andromeda initiative is non-military and is only comprised of space hippies, so that no one will be able to blame Bioware for supposedly supporting colonialism. Or something.
It's one of the things I actually really liked about Ryder to be honest. The story and mechanics of the game fit the role of Pathfinder, it sold the fantasy to me pretty well. Whereas Shepard was just someone who knew how to shoot things very well and had a (somewhat inexplicable) charisma, so the story conspired to make that the premier skillset one would need to save the galaxy from mecha-cthulus, against all reason sometimes. It's also a strength of The Witcher. Since you're playing, well, a Witcher, the writers can craft their stories and mechanics around Geralt. Monster contracts that would be otherwise mundane become his job. Consumables become potions that only he and his fellows can ingest without serious side-effects. The plot of TW3 happens because Emhyr needs an expert tracker, and he knows none better than Geralt. There's certainly an advantage to having a set character, or at least a character with a set role in the story. But not all RPGs have to be like that; Pillars of Eternity for instance worked well with giving you the usual freedom when creating a CRPG protagonist, and adding the Watcher aspects on top of that regardless of your race, class and personality.
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Post by isaidlunch on Apr 19, 2017 22:13:30 GMT
Liam's loyalty mission is seen as the best mission of the game? God help us all.
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 19, 2017 22:47:30 GMT
Personally I think it's too early to tell anything for sure about Cyberpunk 2077. I don't care about particular elements all that much as long as it's an RPG in that universe, I only hope that they'll strive to make the best game they can. Yup, as long as CDPR keeps its spirit intact, I'll pre order any future product from them. Just Gwent will sweep the floor with Hearthstone.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 19, 2017 22:59:34 GMT
Liam's loyalty mission is seen as the best mission of the game? God help us all. There were other good missions
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Post by colfoley on Apr 19, 2017 23:01:53 GMT
Liam's loyalty mission is seen as the best mission of the game? God help us all. not even close imo.
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 19, 2017 23:04:48 GMT
Yup, as long as CDPR keeps its spirit intact, I'll pre order any future product from them. Just Gwent will sweep the floor with Hearthstone. Talking about Gwent, what about that Gwent game? Did it come out already? It is still in BETA, but it is already leagues ahead of HS. The strategy and organization behind each round really makes it the best online card game to day.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 23:15:24 GMT
Talking about Gwent, what about that Gwent game? Did it come out already? It is still in BETA, but it is already leagues ahead of HS. The strategy and organization behind each round really makes it the best online card game to day. I'll believe it when i see it. Elder Scrolls Legends is really good, and already one ups HS in pretty much everything. I can't trust your opinion as you have clearly stated your CDRP bias over and over on this forum.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 19, 2017 23:17:15 GMT
There were other good missions
What would you guys say that was the best part / mission of ME:A?
main mission. Trail of Hope (not done with the main quest) Side mission: its a horse race between Sleeping Dragons, Dracks loyalty mission and Jaals loyalty mission...oh and Ryder family secrets even though i have not finished it myself i did watch it on YouTube. Liams mission was solid just not too special.
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 19, 2017 23:17:48 GMT
It is still in BETA, but it is already leagues ahead of HS. The strategy and organization behind each round really makes it the best online card game to day. Interesting, I guess that the only question is if it's going to have the same annoying monetization scheme as HS, or something better. Much better, more details please refer to this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/gwent/comments/5vsj6x/what_gwent_does_better_than_hearthstone_and_why/
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Post by dm04 on Apr 19, 2017 23:19:56 GMT
So.... we're all waiting for the perfect game? or maybe just the perfect critic [...] Hardly ... not waiting for the perfect game, all we need is a game that makes it right. I loved the first Witcher, when done playing, there was nothing I could add to it, it fellt right. Same with Witcher 2, there was nothing I would have changed or improved. Witcher 3... while I have played it just a few hours, there is nothing to change or improve as well. Now lets look at MEA... no matter what, any feature is half backed and unfinished, everything can be improved with little to no effort and just 5min of thinking about it.
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 19, 2017 23:20:50 GMT
It is still in BETA, but it is already leagues ahead of HS. The strategy and organization behind each round really makes it the best online card game to day. I'll believe it when i see it. Elder Scrolls Legends is really good, and already one ups HS in pretty much everything. I can't trust your opinion as you have clearly stated your CDRP bias over and over on this forum. I don't really care what you think, whom you trust and what you see.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 23:36:26 GMT
I'll believe it when i see it. Elder Scrolls Legends is really good, and already one ups HS in pretty much everything. I can't trust your opinion as you have clearly stated your CDRP bias over and over on this forum. I don't really care what you think, whom you trust and what you see. Cared enough to quote me, so there is that. Did i get under your skin, Panzer?
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Post by colfoley on Apr 20, 2017 1:04:19 GMT
main mission. Trail of Hope (not done with the main quest) Side mission: its a horse race between Sleeping Dragons, Dracks loyalty mission and Jaals loyalty mission...oh and Ryder family secrets even though i have not finished it myself i did watch it on YouTube. Liams mission was solid just not too special. Errr... I don't really remember the names of the missions.
What are "sleeping dragons" and "trail of hope"?
err. Sleeping dragons is the one with the protests on the nexus and trail of hope is rescuing the moshae.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 20, 2017 1:22:08 GMT
There were other good missions
What would you guys say that was the best part / mission of ME:A?
So far in my playthrough, I found the Voleud mission where you rescue the Moshae and the Salarian my favorites. I also love Vetra and Drack's loyalty missions.
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Post by jf8350143 on Apr 20, 2017 2:36:56 GMT
Oh, zut, I found an article on the Cyberpunk 2077 dated March 2017. Off the list, because it's another solitary fixed male protagonist, no mention of the party: Cyberpunk 2077 takes place in, you guessed it, the year 2077. In a sprawling metropolis called Night City, you take on the role of a streetwise young man who was raised in the gutter and wants to improve his life. The street gangs and megacorps will do all they can to keep people down. I guess, it is just BiOWARE then. Too bad that all CDPR wants is to keep pumping out the geralts. I don't really understand, there is no reason for them to do this anymore. Witcher is based on a book, so you are Geralt, make sense. But why Cyberpunk? They even showed a female character in the trailer, why can't you play as her? Also I always consider Witcher 3 didn't having a DLC where you play as Ciri a massive opportunity waste. Or at least go with the Batman Arkham City route where after you finish the main game, you can play as either Ciri or Geralt.
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Post by panzerwzh on Apr 20, 2017 7:33:45 GMT
I don't really care what you think, whom you trust and what you see. Cared enough to quote me, so there is that. Did i get under your skin, Panzer? Whatever floats your boat, mate.
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Post by jediguardian on Apr 20, 2017 7:59:31 GMT
Eh... Now good game must be open world?
I don't care about Open World this is RPG, role play is more important than open world element.
And The Witcher can't compare to Mass Effecr Andromeda in this case. Because they force PC to play as Straight only (not to mention female is not available too). I wonder if Geralf is gay, stright guy will comfortable to play this series or not.
I really hope their next game (Cyberpunk) will allow me to choose my sexuality. If not, at least not force me to have sex with woman or heavily focus on love life with his girlfriend or Ex. or girl nudity.
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Post by cotheer on Apr 20, 2017 8:15:58 GMT
Eh... Now good game must be open world? I don't care about Open World this is RPG, role play is more important than open world element. And The Witcher can't compare to Mass Effecr Andromeda in this case. Because they force PC to play as Straight only (not to mention female is not available too). I wonder if Geralf is gay, stright guy will comfortable to play this series or not. I really hope their next game (Cyberpunk) will allow me to choose my sexuality. If not, at least not force me to have sex with woman or heavily focus on love life with his girlfriend or Ex. or girl nudity. Next thing you'll complain about is that he's not black or that his name is Geralt and not Michael?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 12:04:52 GMT
Eh... Now good game must be open world? I don't care about Open World this is RPG, role play is more important than open world element. And The Witcher can't compare to Mass Effecr Andromeda in this case. Because they force PC to play as Straight only (not to mention female is not available too). I wonder if Geralf is gay, stright guy will comfortable to play this series or not. I really hope their next game (Cyberpunk) will allow me to choose my sexuality. If not, at least not force me to have sex with woman or heavily focus on love life with his girlfriend or Ex. or girl nudity. Next thing you'll complain about is that he's not black or that his name is Geralt and not Michael? Lmao! Love how Geralt's sexual preferences is the first point made in regard to roleplay definition (or lack thereof). Priorities, priorities..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 12:45:04 GMT
Witcher 3 has a perfectly serviceable forum. Here is the link for those who don't know:
forums.cdprojektred.com/forum/en/the-witcher-series
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2017 13:09:18 GMT
Witcher 3 has a perfectly serviceable forum. Here is the link for those who don't know: forums.cdprojektred.com/forum/en/the-witcher-series Sigh. Well, why not? It will be much happier and more productive to have those kind of discussions there.
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