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Post by nucleartech76 on Sept 5, 2016 23:01:42 GMT
IF you're planning on going duration cloak, then you shouldn't concern yourself as much with weight. Just carry a black widow for distance sniping and a shotgun for up close bs that shadow strike and Melee doesn't deal with. I'm not going to argue the merits of what's best in TTK or efficiency because hell a BW shadow is better in plat imho than a shadow striker with Melee focus.
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Post by only1biggs on Sept 6, 2016 21:49:40 GMT
The following build is what I use. Cloak, spot enemy through wall, SS, SS, move on or Headshot/Melee, Cover, repeat. If you want better weapon damage, use a different infiltrator. linkIf you die a lot, don't. |
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 6, 2016 23:10:23 GMT
Go full ham with Wraith OmniBlade/HVB and use Phasic. You love Shadow Strike, so do I. I made a very unpopular thread about how to play her on Gold on old BSN Prime. However, DV makes fair points and you are specifically talking about Platinum, so I agree with almost all of that counsel. But, you like-a da strike, eh? kalence.weebly.com/me3-builder.html#57!3A07565!!13Q56373!05959 I prefer headshots passive and just going three ranks of slash, but that is more of a gold build. The Wraith, even without smart choke, is plenty accurate to hit heads at midrange and do damage on long shots. But, this is not an easy mode Platinum build, it takes a good host or your own host. Acolyte I have seen used really well with her. I don't care for it, and generally go shotgun, although Paladin/Arc Pistol/Talon I have enjoyed as role-playing devices. I don't have the patience for Platinum with her as an SS maniac. Wallhax ftw. |
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 7, 2016 0:22:04 GMT
So I just tried respeccing and playing a melee/SS Shadow again. Respecced back almost immediately. Such lack of weapon damage! Enemies shoot you in cloak all the time, they throw grenades that land on themselves and blow you up when you SS them.
In game full of meat-shields, she's playable on Gold on host. Off host SS has massive problems like Vanguards do - simply not striking, no matter how hard you mash the button. And you have to wait for assholes to climb ladders, before you can SS them. I can at least Charge when some Phantom is climbing.
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Post by Arkhne on Sept 7, 2016 0:27:56 GMT
So I just tried respeccing and playing a melee/SS Shadow again. Respecced back almost immediately. Such lack of weapon damage! Enemies shoot you in cloak all the time, they throw grenades that land on themselves and blow you up when you SS them. In game full of meat-shields, she's playable on Gold on host. Off host SS has massive problems like Vanguards do - simply not striking, no matter how hard you mash the button. And you have to wait for assholes to climb ladders, before you can SS them. I can at least Charge when some Phantom is climbing. Went back to Valiant Shadow with damage cloak and will not waste another card again. This happens sometimes, even on host. There are many reasons why I am not a fan of SS, but you mentioned most of them already. |
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 7, 2016 0:33:50 GMT
Stop mashing the button. Mash corn, or potato, make liquor. Take the Claymore like the real Krogan you are meant to be, drink the homemade ryncol and go kill something.
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Post by Sihmm on Sept 8, 2016 11:43:50 GMT
You love Shadow Strike, so do I. I made a very unpopular thread about how to play her on Gold on old BSN Prime. Wow, really? Micah3sixty posted a guide that was pretty well received back in the day, which is what I based my own build on for my Platinum solo and "see, this totally works on Platinum" post - which was also quite well received, I thought. I had hoped in the years since that the playstyle and build might have been refined and maybe minmaxed a bit better, but I guess instead her popularity as a melee character has tanked. I understand the points raised against her, but there's no doubt that she can - with some TLC and a little bit of forgiveness - work very well on Platinum, even with my old build. Back then I asserted that she was good at chewing through the wave budget by quickly, efficiently and (relatively) safely getting rid of weaker enemies, while also being able to contribute on bosses. Sure, she can be finicky to use (my experience on Hazard Glacier/Reapers shows just how much so) and there are plenty of more powerful characters, but basically what I said before is still true  |
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 8, 2016 13:55:30 GMT
For reference. BSN Prime thread, rather old but may be humorous or mildly enlightening. Lord Sirian did not agree with me, at all. Lol. |
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Sept 8, 2016 16:31:07 GMT
The following build is what I use. Cloak, spot enemy through wall, SS, SS, move on or Headshot/Melee, Cover, repeat. If you want better weapon damage, use a different infiltrator. linkIf you die a lot, don't. I take the alternate options at 4 and 6 of SS, which probably results in similar play overall, and the Piranha is my favoured Shotgun, but absolutely everything else you say describes my build and approach (apart from the headshot bit). I've had that Shadow every which way, but that's what I always come back to as my fave for Gold, and I pretty much never host. On the occasions I do I'm always tempted to pre-select Cerberus just to give some special attention to Phantoms. I can't play a Sniper Shadow successfully, and I hate ES, but SS Shadow is one of my favourite characters in the game for total relaxation. And yeah, before Boogie chips in - lolduration cloak - not just for the win, but also for the team. SS with Geth Scanner off-host is, in my experience, unrecognizable from Biotic Charge or Poison Strike, but much more like Havoc Strike - far less problematic. Sometimes they don't respond, sure, but that happens on-host too. |
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Post by only1biggs on Sept 8, 2016 18:25:13 GMT
For reference. BSN Prime thread, rather old but may be humorous or mildly enlightening. Lord Sirian did not agree with me, at all. Lol. He is right though. Or at least had a point. If you're good, you can kill quicker than SS'ing two targets (two targets for most anyway). Though, I'd say the time to kill is around the same. It's just dependent on the distance to target and enemy type really. I can SS, headshot, SS by timing everything correctly with button presses. That's 3 cloaked 1 shots on most enemies, if not all, I forget. With the exception of the big fuckers. That's my preferred style and I've tried them all. He was more than likely trolling you though, but his statements were based in truth. Play how you like, just don't tell people not to play a certain way. It might piss you off, but, fuck you. Go away from the cunt who's spamming. Kick him next game. Don't comment like a fucking moron who thinks a game should be played one way, when there are multiple build types, for multiple characters for a reason. Besides.... you got sync killed like a fucking scrub. Learn to dance with the Banshees. Or don't. Nobody cares. ES'ing through walls is retarded, but it has a similar time to kill if specced correctly, can kill multiple enemies at once and doesn't have any bugs pertaining to certain enemy types. You just gotta be able to play. A happy medium would be this if you like to ES. Just don't keep spamming it if the target isn't red with Geth Scanner. If it's red, it's dead. Then SS for escapes only. And learn to headshot correctly. Alt build |
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Post by only1biggs on Sept 8, 2016 18:31:36 GMT
So I just tried respeccing and playing a melee/SS Shadow again. Respecced back almost immediately. Such lack of weapon damage! Enemies shoot you in cloak all the time, they throw grenades that land on themselves and blow you up when you SS them. In game full of meat-shields, she's playable on Gold on host. Off host SS has massive problems like Vanguards do - simply not striking, no matter how hard you mash the button. And you have to wait for assholes to climb ladders, before you can SS them. I can at least Charge when some Phantom is climbing. Went back to Valiant Shadow with damage cloak and will not waste another card again. Pathetic  |
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 8, 2016 18:47:10 GMT
^ Maybe. But I kill a lot faster and I don't take craploads of unnecessary damage, because the game is buggy.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 8, 2016 18:57:25 GMT
For reference. BSN Prime thread, rather old but may be humorous or mildly enlightening. Lord Sirian did not agree with me, at all. Lol. He is right though. Or at least had a point. If you're good, you can kill quicker than SS'ing two targets (two targets for most anyway). Though, I'd say the time to kill is around the same. It's just dependent on the distance to target and enemy type really. I can SS, headshot, SS by timing everything correctly with button presses. That's 3 cloaked 1 shots on most enemies, if not all, I forget. With the exception of the big fuckers. That's my preferred style and I've tried them all. He was more than likely trolling you though, but his statements were based in truth. Play how you like, just don't tell people not to play a certain way. It might piss you off, but, fuck you. Go away from the cunt who's spamming. Kick him next game. Don't comment like a fucking moron who thinks a game should be played one way, when there are multiple build types, for multiple characters for a reason. Besides.... you got sync killed like a fucking scrub. Learn to dance with the Banshees. Or don't. Nobody cares. ES'ing through walls is retarded, but it has a similar time to kill if specced correctly, can kill multiple enemies at once and doesn't have any bugs pertaining to certain enemy types. You just gotta be able to play. A happy medium would be this if you like to ES. Just don't keep spamming it if the target isn't red with Geth Scanner. If it's red, it's dead. Then SS for escapes only. And learn to headshot correctly. Alt buildI agree he had a point. I totally disagree with his inflexibility, and his maintenance that I couldn't aim. On his host, I admit I couldn't aim. Because I couldn't see. Bounce bounce bounce Australian Potato. |
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Post by only1biggs on Sept 8, 2016 19:11:15 GMT
He is right though. Or at least had a point. If you're good, you can kill quicker than SS'ing two targets (two targets for most anyway). Though, I'd say the time to kill is around the same. It's just dependent on the distance to target and enemy type really. I can SS, headshot, SS by timing everything correctly with button presses. That's 3 cloaked 1 shots on most enemies, if not all, I forget. With the exception of the big fuckers. That's my preferred style and I've tried them all. He was more than likely trolling you though, but his statements were based in truth. Play how you like, just don't tell people not to play a certain way. It might piss you off, but, fuck you. Go away from the cunt who's spamming. Kick him next game. Don't comment like a fucking moron who thinks a game should be played one way, when there are multiple build types, for multiple characters for a reason. Besides.... you got sync killed like a fucking scrub. Learn to dance with the Banshees. Or don't. Nobody cares. ES'ing through walls is retarded, but it has a similar time to kill if specced correctly, can kill multiple enemies at once and doesn't have any bugs pertaining to certain enemy types. You just gotta be able to play. A happy medium would be this if you like to ES. Just don't keep spamming it if the target isn't red with Geth Scanner. If it's red, it's dead. Then SS for escapes only. And learn to headshot correctly. Alt buildI agree he had a point. I totally disagree with his inflexibility, and his maintenance that I couldn't aim. On his host, I admit I couldn't aim. Because I couldn't see. Bounce bounce bounce Australian Potato. Again, probably him trolling you. You can aim or you can't. You know if you can, so what does it matter if someone thinks you can't? (taps balls) All that matters is the perception of yourself, champ. Now get out there and give em' hell  |
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Post by only1biggs on Sept 8, 2016 19:14:03 GMT
^ Maybe. But I kill a lot faster and I don't take craploads of unnecessary damage, because the game is buggy. Play how you like, just don't tell people not to play a certain way. It might piss you off, but, fuck you. I not once said, "play this way" or "don't play that way". Just that you're not good with the way I offered, as you stated yourself |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2016 19:15:34 GMT
^ Maybe. But I kill a lot faster and I don't take craploads of unnecessary damage, because the game is buggy. Play how you like, just don't tell people not to play a certain way. It might piss you off, but, fuck you. What would BSN be if it weren't for people judging how you play? |
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 8, 2016 19:46:02 GMT
Sirian was considered some sort of god at the time. I know now that he was an early tinkerer, much like FTFTL and Link.
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Post by CHRrOME on Sept 8, 2016 19:53:41 GMT
I really don't like this kit, too squishy. I just keep hearing my shields brake every time someone start taking pot shots at me. And Shadow strike is a double edged sword (no pun intended), because you end up with your ass on the line way too often.
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Post by Kenny Bania on Sept 8, 2016 19:53:44 GMT
Sirian was considered some sort of god at the time. I know now that he was an early tinkerer, much like FTFTL and Link. No fucks given. I have never been elite, just good, and always a team player. Oh!!!! What's this??? |
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Sirian was considered some sort of god at the time. I know now that he was an early tinkerer, much like FTFTL and Link Oh!!!! What's this??? Well, I must apologize. What I suspect from observation and what I know are actually totally different things. Let me just say there were curious things about his host besides just ridiculous lag. The difference between his score on his host and off was stunning. Part of that I also attribute to ridiculous lag on his end playing on my or a friend's host, yet part of that doesn't add up quite right. So, to say I know anything, about, well, anything, is absurd. However, if I am not deceived about some things that tend to have consistency, then I smell something modded. |
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This thread has taken a turn.  Why must the Shadow be so controversial? Sexy space ninjas should bring us together. |
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Post by srgtcolon on Sept 9, 2016 17:15:41 GMT
This thread has taken a turn. Why must the Shadow be so controversial? Sexy space ninjas should bring us together. Egos came to play. |
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This thread has taken a turn. Why must the Shadow be so controversial? Sexy space ninjas should bring us together. Egos came to play. 3 years ago, lol. |
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I'm at that weird place where I'll happily declare that on a bonus power/melee Shadow, duration spec actually increases damage output enough to offset the lower direct bonus, but genuinely not care enough to bother arguing with the people who still insist otherwise.
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