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Post by cloud9 on Apr 30, 2017 16:55:50 GMT
Dragon Age is where you get us brown ladies... One Jezebel and one asexual. BioWare are shitty when it comes to WoC.
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Post by shechinah on Apr 30, 2017 17:09:36 GMT
Dragon Age is where you get us brown ladies... One Jezebel and one asexual. BioWare are shitty when it comes to WoC. So it's not about the character being well-written or romanceable: you want a brown lady that can be graphically boinked and whose sexual history you approve of? My, my, I am glad that Bioware do not follow your idea of a well-written woman of color.
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Post by cloud9 on Apr 30, 2017 18:03:02 GMT
One Jezebel and one asexual. BioWare are shitty when it comes to WoC. So it's not about the character being well-written or romanceable: you want a brown lady that can be graphically boinked and whose sexual history you approve of? My, my, I am glad that Bioware do not follow your idea of a well-written woman of color. *sighs* Nope, what would be nice is if they created a non stereotypical WoC. I understand why that would be a problem for you.
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Post by shechinah on Apr 30, 2017 18:34:14 GMT
*sighs* Nope, what would be nice is if they created a non stereotypical WoC. How were Isabella, Josephine and Vivienne stereotypes?
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Post by cloud9 on Apr 30, 2017 18:54:20 GMT
*sighs* Nope, what would be nice is if they created a non stereotypical WoC. How were Isabella, Josephine and Vivienne stereotypes? Hmm, I understand your confusion. You don't see them as stereotypes because you think this is the way PoC really are. So, you don't see what the big deal is. Great to know.
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Post by Steelcan on Apr 30, 2017 19:03:27 GMT
don't engage Cloud9, he's a troll
or alternatively someone with supremely questionable beliefs that subscribes to theories that deserve nothing but ridicule
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Post by shechinah on Apr 30, 2017 19:26:15 GMT
How were Isabella, Josephine and Vivienne stereotypes? Hmm, I understand your confusion. You don't see them as stereotypes because you think this is the way PoC really are. So, you don't see what the big deal is. Great to know. It's nice to see a classic observed but updated with a more modern touch and not executed in the fashion of a hammer like so many trolls do: you present bait in the form of allegations of racism and present a pretense of seeking discussions by way of vague replies yet will re-draw from actual engaging in a discussion where you'd have to provide actual arguments. Rather than simple silence, you proclaim that the very fact that the poster seeks a discussion with you at all is evidence that said poster will be incapable of understanding your points. Or am I mistaken by how similar your behavior is to this style of trolling and you actually do have points to present in favor of your statements? For one who seems so terribly interested in participating in threads about or related to race and who seems so certain of their views, you seem to so shy away from ever actually presenting what thoughts gives you that certainty of mind.
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Post by sil on Apr 30, 2017 20:15:37 GMT
Hmm, I understand your confusion. You don't see them as stereotypes because you think this is the way PoC really are. So, you don't see what the big deal is. Great to know. I'm guessing PoC stands for People of Colour rather than Pirates of the Caribbean? Just so you realise, as Dragon Age is a fantasy setting, that means any real world stereotypes do not, and should not, apply to any characters in the setting.
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Post by cloud9 on Apr 30, 2017 20:45:44 GMT
Hmm, I understand your confusion. You don't see them as stereotypes because you think this is the way PoC really are. So, you don't see what the big deal is. Great to know. I'm guessing PoC stands for People of Colour rather than Pirates of the Caribbean?Just so you realise, as Dragon Age is a fantasy setting, that means any real world stereotypes do not, and should not, apply to any characters in the setting.
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Post by isaidlunch on Apr 30, 2017 22:51:26 GMT
Only men are allowed to be black in Mass Effect.
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Post by FemShepard'sPie on May 1, 2017 12:29:16 GMT
WHY BIOWARE?!! What is so hard about creating black woman that can be romanced by a male? You can easily fix this! On the one hand I agree but on the other hand, I'm kind of glad because of the meltdown some parts of fandom would have over it and how they'd trash the poor woman. That said, the original Cora kind of reminds me of Dutch from Killjoys. So awesome.
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Post by FemShepard'sPie on May 1, 2017 12:31:57 GMT
Ha, where's this from? I need to snag screens cause the chick kind of has my look.
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 1, 2017 14:46:03 GMT
Ha, where's this from? I need to snag screens cause the chick kind of has my look. Watch Archer.
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Post by ulmanicator on May 1, 2017 17:12:04 GMT
Andromeda has only one straight female. Even if we ignore sexual orientation, the amount of content with bith women was far from equal. BW had a chance with Viviene, but that gave her bold head, unlikable character traits and no romance option. And by what insane sort math would that make this hypothetical character the only option? To begin with, if you just entirely disqualify bisexual characters as options, that's your own hangup, not something the game is maneuvering you into. More importantly, how on earth did you manage to dodge logic enough to assume this hypothetical romanceable character wouldn't be bi herself? If the only human female romanceble for male protagonist in the game is going to be of African descent, I disapprove. If the game is foing to have more than one human female romanceble for the protagonist, and on of them'll be African, I approve. Is it more clear now?
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Post by Alien Fodder on May 1, 2017 17:30:52 GMT
Seemed like it almost happened. In Cora's concept art she looks black/mixed race but they changed it in the final game. I prefer her concept art look alot more even if she does look alot like ashley. I'm sorry but I'm of mixed white/black heritage, so are several of my relatives and none of us look remotely like this. That woman looks very white with maybe, * maybe* a low percentage of black heritage in her. I don't think this is what the OP meant by a black or mixed heritage black woman... Why do you have to specify "african american"? Is there something wrong with just saying black? It always annoys me when people use it in contexts where it makes no sense, like this one. Why can't they be european, canadian or, you know, just african? On topic though, I would like to see them add a female black LI to ME or Dragon Age at some point. I totally agree. We should stop using the term African American when referring to black people in general. I'm of African descent but I'm definitely not American. This is a strange generalization that I'm really not comfortable with, personally.
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Post by Lady Artifice on May 1, 2017 17:58:50 GMT
And by what insane sort math would that make this hypothetical character the only option? To begin with, if you just entirely disqualify bisexual characters as options, that's your own hangup, not something the game is maneuvering you into. More importantly, how on earth did you manage to dodge logic enough to assume this hypothetical romanceable character wouldn't be bi herself? If the only human female romanceble for male protagonist in the game is going to be of African descent, I disapprove. If the game is foing to have more than one human female romanceble for the protagonist, and on of them'll be African, I approve. Is it more clear now? Your sentiments were never unclear to begin with. They were just incredibly silly. Obviously, of course, duh and etcetera this hypothetical character wouldn't be the "only" option. There's no precedent or implication to even conceivably rationalize the assumption that it was even on the table--to even entertain it as a question of either/or. It was like someone saying "We're about to open an ice cream shop, we should have strawberry flavored ice cream," and someone responding, "Not if it's the only kind!" The reason the second person looks so foolish here is because that response only comes close to being even remotely reasonable is if the first person had clearly specified that they were suggesting strawberry be the only featured option. The concept itself is so improbable that there's no rational reason to consider it otherwise.
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Post by Sifr on May 1, 2017 21:59:26 GMT
Why do you have to specify "african american"? Is there something wrong with just saying black? It always annoys me when people use it in contexts where it makes no sense, like this one. Why can't they be european, canadian or, you know, just african? On topic though, I would like to see them add a female black LI to ME or Dragon Age at some point. I totally agree. We should stop using the term African American when referring to black people in general. I'm of African descent but I'm definitely not American. This is a strange generalization that I'm really not comfortable with, personally. I seem to vaguely recall a (possibly apocryphal) story about something like this happening during the 2012 Olympics. An American reporter became slightly confused when an athlete answered they had no idea about what it was like to be "African-American". When questioned why that was, the athlete had to respond that A; they considered themselves Black and B; were part of the British Olympic team. A lesson that sometimes "political correctness" does not equal to actual correctness.
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Post by cloud9 on May 2, 2017 9:55:31 GMT
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Post by sycorax on May 10, 2017 17:53:39 GMT
I thought Ashley was black? Or at least a Quarter?
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Post by cloud9 on May 10, 2017 18:23:33 GMT
Why do you have to specify "african american"? Is there something wrong with just saying black? It always annoys me when people use it in contexts where it makes no sense, like this one. Why can't they be european, canadian or, you know, just african? On topic though, I would like to see them add a female black LI to ME or Dragon Age at some point. They're not and they'll never will because it's something about black women that they don't like as a romance, but with black men is a different story but a woman as a romantic interest that's a "hell no" for them.
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Post by Lavochkin on May 11, 2017 1:12:43 GMT
I totally agree. We should stop using the term African American when referring to black people in general. I'm of African descent but I'm definitely not American. This is a strange generalization that I'm really not comfortable with, personally. I seem to vaguely recall a (possibly apocryphal) story about something like this happening during the 2012 Olympics. An American reporter became slightly confused when an athlete answered they had no idea about what it was like to be "African-American". When questioned why that was, the athlete had to respond that A; they considered themselves Black and B; were part of the British Olympic team. A lesson that sometimes "political correctness" does not equal to actual correctness. That reminds me, once while browsing the IMDB forums(when those were a thing) I saw a Black-British actor being referred to as "African-American". Another similar face palming occurence was on gamefaqs when in reference to a certain black character some users couldn't wrap their minds around the notion that "black" and "hispanic" weren't mutually exclusive terms(as if all those black colombians and other such hispanophone blacks don't exist).
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 1:27:21 GMT
What about an African-Canadian or an Afro-Colombian? Would those be viable alternatives? Sincere, I'm actually of the opinion African women are far more attractive when they are not American. Say what? Alicia Keys? Jennifer "BOOM-BOOM" Hudson, Jessica "ain't" White, Tyra Banks, Halle Berry and I could go on and on. Yo, American is beautiful. Black, white, Hispanic, Asian and any other.
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Post by FemShepard'sPie on May 11, 2017 19:25:12 GMT
Seemed like it almost happened. In Cora's concept art she looks black/mixed race but they changed it in the final game. I prefer her concept art look alot more even if she does look alot like ashley. I agree. She reminded me of Hannah John-Kamen.
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Post by FemShepard'sPie on May 11, 2017 19:45:24 GMT
Why do you have to specify "african american"? Is there something wrong with just saying black? It always annoys me when people use it in contexts where it makes no sense, like this one. Why can't they be european, canadian or, you know, just african? On topic though, I would like to see them add a female black LI to ME or Dragon Age at some point. They're not and they'll never will because it's something about black women that they don't like as a romance, but with black men is a different story but a woman as a romantic interest that's a "hell no" for them. Sincere, I'm actually of the opinion African women are far more attractive when they are not American. Say what? Alicia Keys? Jennifer "BOOM-BOOM" Hudson, Jessica "ain't" White, Tyra Banks, Halle Berry and I could go on and on. Yo, American is beautiful. Black, white, Hispanic, Asian and any other. Antoinette Robertson, Tika Sumpter, Kellita Smith, Aja Naomi King, Megalyn Echikunwoke, Rochelle Aytes, Nicole Beharie, etc
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 19:49:37 GMT
Seemed like it almost happened. In Cora's concept art she looks black/mixed race but they changed it in the final game. I prefer her concept art look alot more even if she does look alot like ashley. I agree. She reminded me of Hannah John-Kamen. Crazy beautiful. Another missed opportunity. 😘💔
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