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Post by AnDromedary on May 8, 2018 17:56:04 GMT
When I talked with t'soni, she mentioned about her time dealing with bandits and/or predatory lifeforms, my first thought is how? Biotics. It's a bit of a difference to face animals and bandits than it is to face a small army of geth and krogan warriors lead by a battlemaster. Even while "panicked", she tried to activate the barrier curtain to seperate herself from an overwhelming force and activated the bubble that trapped her as well when dealing with an ancient prothean system that hardly anyone else could probaly have even operated in that situation. You call it stupid, I call it a fairly sound tactical move and quick thinking under pressure that unfortunately backfired to some extent, yet still managed to save her life. Also, IIRC, she specifically states that she was mostly doing her excursions alone, so no saving by others there.
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Post by themikefest on May 8, 2018 18:12:02 GMT
Why are saying I call it stupid when I never said that?
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Post by AnDromedary on May 8, 2018 18:18:15 GMT
Why are saying I call it stupid when I never said that? Well, I figured that was the implication from your sentence. Anyway, whether that particular word fits or not, I think you made it clear that you don't exactly see that action as an indication of competence on her part. I am just saying, one might as well interpret it as bad luck while she chose the most appropriate actions in a tough situation. After all, if the bubble she didn't know about hadn't activated, she'd have been able to take the lift up, bypass most of the enemy force and almost would have gotten to the surface. whether that would have worked out or not, given the extent of troops that were on Therum is questionable but she couldn't know that yet. So as far as I can see, her actions were perfectly appropriate.
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Post by themikefest on May 8, 2018 18:31:25 GMT
Well, I figured that was the implication from your sentence. Anyway, whether that particular word fits or not, I think you made it clear that you don't exactly see that action as an indication of competence on her part. I am just saying, one might as well interpret it as bad luck while she chose the most appropriate actions in a tough situation. You figured wrong. I never thought of the word stupid until I read your post. Her panick and cowering fits with what is seen on Thessia. Why did she freeze when Leng ran towards her? She's lucky that Leng threw her across the screen instead of killing her. Look at a similar scene on Mars. As soon as the robot runs towards A/K, both draw their weapon and fire at the thing. Yes, they end up seriously injured, but they didn't stand around doing nothing. That is the difference between someone who has training and someone who doesn't.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 8, 2018 18:43:46 GMT
Well, I figured that was the implication from your sentence. Anyway, whether that particular word fits or not, I think you made it clear that you don't exactly see that action as an indication of competence on her part. I am just saying, one might as well interpret it as bad luck while she chose the most appropriate actions in a tough situation. You figured wrong. I never thought of the word stupid until I read your post. Her panick and cowering fits with what is seen on Thessia. Why did she freeze when Leng ran towards her? She's lucky that Leng threw her across the screen instead of killing her. Look at a similar scene on Mars. As soon as the robot runs towards A/K, both draw their weapon and fire at the thing. Yes, they end up seriously injured, but they didn't stand around doing nothing. That is the difference between someone who has training and someone who doesn't. She may not have professional combat training but then, what's your point exactly? Are you saying that makes her unvaluable as a squad mate, despite the fact that she is clearly the most powerful biotic on board the Normandy? What then of other squad mates who didn't go through any form of official training like Kasumi, Jack or Tali? As for her "slow reaction" in some scenes, throughout the trilogy (and depending on what squad mates you choose), pretty much every single character (including Shepard) can have a scene or two where they just look dumbfounded at a YMIR mech or a gunship before reacting for dramatic effect. Besides, if you don't want to have her as a squad mate, don't use her. The only missions she absolutely needs to come along is Mars (because she knows the place and has the info about the archives, not because she's a great soldier), Thessia (here I would agree with the point that technically, Shep should have been able to say no to her request to come) and LotSB (where the entire quest is about her). I really don't see the problem on a logical level here.
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Post by themikefest on May 8, 2018 19:03:19 GMT
She may not have professional combat training but then, what's your point exactly? Lack of training can lead to bad things. All it takes is a blink of an eye for things to go bad. Yes Maybe so, but if you can't handle pressure situations, those biotics are useless.What about them? Would I want them as squadmates? No No kidding. I avoid taking her anywhere unless the game forces the issue. Yep. As soon as she says that's my home, I have to go, is where Shepard should say no since you can hear it in her voice she's too emotional which could lead to bad things. Even on the shuttle, if the bottom right dialogue is chosen, she will say she can't be that callous. That's where Shepard should have told Steve to turn the shuttle around to get another squadmate who can be callous.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 8, 2018 19:10:41 GMT
Right, so if the only problem is Thessia, then well, that I can sort of understand (though I really don't mind it as much and just go with the flow on that one). Otherwise, as I said, I don't see a problem, really. For me, it's fine to take a squad mate that doesn't have official training, as long as I think they can still handle themselves in a fight (which Liara absolutely can). The "blink of an eye" mistakes can also happen to trained soldiers after all and all the squad mates you dismissed there can bring other potentially useful qualities and expertise to the team (if not gameplay wise, at least lore wise).
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I rather have someone with training and experience vs someone who doesn't even if bad things can happen. Most likely be less of a chance to happen than with someone who isn't trained.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 8, 2018 19:54:04 GMT
I rather have someone with training and experience vs someone who doesn't even if bad things can happen. Most likely be less of a chance to happen than with someone who isn't trained. Which is why, like suggested Mordin could have done, she'd be better as a go-to on Prothean topics while someone like Shiala head out into the field. (Never mind that Liara didn't know the real truth about the Protheans; no one did.)
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2018 13:19:03 GMT
Lately I've been wondering why the Council does fire Shepard when (s)he starts to hang up on them, keeps lipping of the Turian councillor, and basically doesn't handle a single main world mission in a manner they'd like to see. After all, they didn't ever really want to make him/her a spectre in the first place; they don't even believe the Reapers exist; and they didn't hesitate to fire Anderson for less reason. So, why does the council put up with Shepard's BS instead of just sending out a couple of their more experienced and trusted spectres to bring Saren down. Yet, they wait until Shepard is really, really close to catching Saren... and then don't hesitate to lock down his ship, but still dont' revoke his spectre status.
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Post by KrrKs on May 12, 2018 15:55:21 GMT
I guess it's because of Udina. Can you imagine the Councilors' joy when they'd have to hear his outrage for an entire afternoon, just because they fired Shepard?
Instead they wait until Udina basically got most of what he wanted and he himself is petitioning for Shepards grounding.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 13, 2018 3:37:12 GMT
they don't even believe the Reapers exist Actually false, as proven when Shepard and the ENTIRE squad enters the Citadel Archives during the Citadel DLC. There's a holo about the Battle of the Citadel. When it notes the presence of a Spectre (or two, if you have A/K with you) it will detail classified information which states that Sovereign was suspected of being a Reaper. Why they completely and utterly failed to act on that information is one of the Great Mysteries of Mass Effect.
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Post by melbella on May 13, 2018 4:10:50 GMT
they don't even believe the Reapers exist Actually false, as proven when Shepard and the ENTIRE squad enters the Citadel Archives during the Citadel DLC. There's a holo about the Battle of the Citadel. When it notes the presence of a Spectre (or two, if you have A/K with you) it will detail classified information which states that Sovereign was suspected of being a Reaper. Why they completely and utterly failed to act on that information is one of the Great Mysteries of Mass Effect.
Yeah, it makes sense for them to not believe it. It doesn't make ANY sense to believe it and do nothing (and worse, hinder efforts of those trying to do something).
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 12:27:45 GMT
they don't even believe the Reapers exist Actually false, as proven when Shepard and the ENTIRE squad enters the Citadel Archives during the Citadel DLC. There's a holo about the Battle of the Citadel. When it notes the presence of a Spectre (or two, if you have A/K with you) it will detail classified information which states that Sovereign was suspected of being a Reaper. Why they completely and utterly failed to act on that information is one of the Great Mysteries of Mass Effect. I was really speaking about during ME1 and Shepard's various reports to the Council... before the actual Battle of the Citadel. Throughout ME1, Shepard's mission in the Council's mind is about going after Saren; which is something they could easily send a different spectre to do. With Shepard proving to be a royal pain in the ass, it really makes no sense as to why they didn't just fire him/her and send someone more experienced and to their liking to go after Saren. They reluctantly made Shepard a spectre specifically to get Saren (not because they believe the Reapers exist let alone are a real threat). After Shepard lets Saren get away on Virmire, potentially costing the lives of Kirrahe and his men in the process and with detonating an illegal nuclear device, why not just fire Shepard's as during that vidcall? The Asari councillor steps in to stop it... but the Turian councillor is making a valid point. Anderson was fired for less and it would quell thoughts on the Citadel that the Council is playing favorites with humanity... a political win for them.
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Post by themikefest on May 13, 2018 12:56:55 GMT
Did Shepard let Saren get away? Even without Shepard, Kirrahe would have detonated that bomb. It was him and his team that came up with the idea. I agree with Udina not wanting Anderson to interfere in the case because of his past history with Saren. The only valid point the turian councilor makes is when Anderson brings up Shepard's visions. If the council fired Shepard, or used another spectre, it wouldn't stop him/her from going after Saren. He attacked a human colony.
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Did Shepard let Saren get away? Even without Shepard, Kirrahe would have detonated that bomb. It was him and his team that came up with the idea. I agree with Udina not wanting Anderson to interfere in the case because of his past history with Saren. The only valid point the turian councilor makes is when Anderson brings up Shepard's visions. If the council fired Shepard, or used another spectre, it wouldn't stop him/her from going after Saren. He attacked a human colony. First question - Yes, Shepard did fight Saren face to face on Virmire, lost the fight, and Saren escaped. Without Shepard, Kirrahe would have continued to wait for the reinforcements he requested and would have likely been captured and indoctrinated eventually... just as had been happening for however long prior to Shepard showing up. Kirrahe did not consider detonating his ship's drive earlier because his was the only ship available to get them off planet. Therefore, it's also possible that Kirrahe would have eventually simply tried to escape the planet aboard his ship (risking, of course, getting shot down by the AA guns). Without Shepard, the Salarians may have even sent in the reinforcements Kirrahe requested instead of just one ship.
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Post by themikefest on May 13, 2018 13:30:52 GMT
First question - Yes, Shepard did fight Saren face to face on Virmire, lost the fight, and Saren escaped. Ok. So, did Shepard let Saren escape? All assumption just as I what I said is assumption, but I doubt he would've waited forever. He also mentioned that it was unlikely that they would survive so having his ship to leave Virmire I would guess wasn't an option for him.
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First question - Yes, Shepard did fight Saren face to face on Virmire, lost the fight, and Saren escaped. Ok. So, did Shepard let Saren escape? All assumption just as I what I said is assumption, but I doubt he would've waited forever. He also mentioned that it was unlikely that they would survive so having his ship to leave Virmire I would guess wasn't an option for him. Did Anderson let Saren blow up that facility? Still, Anderson was blamed and fired for it. Similar situation for Shepard. Shepard failed to win that fight and Saren got away from him. Had the Council fired Shepard, it would have been the essentially the same thing as firing Anderson. Also, it could be argued that all Shepard had to do on Virmire was make sure Saren stayed occupied fighting long enough for the bomb to go off... killing Shepard AND Saren together. However, Shepard's personal objective is no longer catching Saren. Shepard is now focused on stopping the Reapers, despite being told repeatedly that it's not his mission. So, yeah, Shepard let Saren escape... because if he had killed Saren, there would be no way for him to figure out the Reaper threat.
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Post by themikefest on May 13, 2018 14:19:45 GMT
Did Anderson let Saren blow up that facility? Still, Anderson was blamed and fired for it. Anderson was fired for what happened at the facility? The only thing that happened is he was no longer considered to be a spectre. Hard to be fired from a position that Anderson never held. If Shepard stayed on Virmire long enough to continue the fight with Saren, the bomb would not only kill him/her, but possibly destroy the SR1.
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Did Anderson let Saren blow up that facility? Still, Anderson was blamed and fired for it. Anderson was fired for what happened at the facility? The only thing that happened is he was no longer considered to be a spectre. Hard to be fired from a position that Anderson never held. If Shepard stayed on Virmire long enough to continue the fight with Saren, the bomb would not only kill him/her, but possibly destroy the SR1. True. It would be a total suicide mission... but Saren would be stopped. If Shepard believed that stopping Saren would have stopped the Reaper threat, he/she would have done it without hesitation. What's one ship, one crew, and even one planet against the fate of an entire galaxy? Shepard later proved that eh/she was prepared to sacrifice an entire start system for the same reasons.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 13, 2018 15:10:09 GMT
Lately I've been wondering why the Council does fire Shepard when (s)he starts to hang up on them, keeps lipping of the Turian councillor, and basically doesn't handle a single main world mission in a manner they'd like to see. After all, they didn't ever really want to make him/her a spectre in the first place; they don't even believe the Reapers exist; and they didn't hesitate to fire Anderson for less reason. So, why does the council put up with Shepard's BS instead of just sending out a couple of their more experienced and trusted spectres to bring Saren down. Yet, they wait until Shepard is really, really close to catching Saren... and then don't hesitate to lock down his ship, but still dont' revoke his spectre status. OK, I read your response earlier and see that I more perused your comment rather than read it closely (in regard to the above referencing ME1 alone). But there are some other things. When did Anderson get fired? Do you mean as captain of the Normandy? That wasn't even really anything to do with Anderson so much as Shepard becoming a Spectre. If this is a reference to being on Earth in ME3, I always figured Anderson resigned because he did believe in the Reaper threat and wanted to humanity to be as prepared as possible. I do agree that there should have been repercussions for hanging up on the Council but, honestly, Sparatus needed to someone to ignore his rants. Sparatus is probably the most anti-human in the entire series, though I think he's a relic from the First Contact War. (Funny how, if he survives, he's the one most willing to direct Shepard to get help from the turians.)
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Lately I've been wondering why the Council does fire Shepard when (s)he starts to hang up on them, keeps lipping of the Turian councillor, and basically doesn't handle a single main world mission in a manner they'd like to see. After all, they didn't ever really want to make him/her a spectre in the first place; they don't even believe the Reapers exist; and they didn't hesitate to fire Anderson for less reason. So, why does the council put up with Shepard's BS instead of just sending out a couple of their more experienced and trusted spectres to bring Saren down. Yet, they wait until Shepard is really, really close to catching Saren... and then don't hesitate to lock down his ship, but still dont' revoke his spectre status. OK, I read your response earlier and see that I more perused your comment rather than read it closely (in regard to the above referencing ME1 alone). But there are some other things. When did Anderson get fired? Do you mean as captain of the Normandy? That wasn't even really anything to do with Anderson so much as Shepard becoming a Spectre. If this is a reference to being on Earth in ME3, I always figured Anderson resigned because he did believe in the Reaper threat and wanted to humanity to be as prepared as possible. I do agree that there should have been repercussions for hanging up on the Council but, honestly, Sparatus needed to someone to ignore his rants. Sparatus is probably the most anti-human in the entire series, though I think he's a relic from the First Contact War. (Funny how, if he survives, he's the one most willing to direct Shepard to get help from the turians.) Anderson was dropped from spectre consideration because Saren blew up a facility they were investigating together before Shepard and Anderson ever met; so, technically, Anderson was fired from the spectre recruitment program. I'm looking to understand the Council's motivation for not taking the same sort of action with Shepard. Shepard's more of a pain that Anderson ever was to them. Shepard has not performed the mission to which he/she was expressly assigned and made a spectre for the purpose of carrying that out. Shepard is showing the Council signs of going rogue... chasing down Reapers when they've tasked him/her with the mission of catching Saren. Why don't they fire Shepard? What's stopping them? Hopefully, it's not just because they don't want to hear Udina whine for an hour (which, so far, is looking like the best answer). By not revoking Shepard's spectre status, Shepard remains above the law... stealing the Normandy, therefore, is not a crime at all. Anderson, who is not above the law, is the one committing a sanctionable crime against the Alliance.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 13, 2018 15:42:34 GMT
Anderson was dropped from spectre consideration because Saren blew up a facility they were investigating together before Shepard and Anderson ever met; so, technically, Anderson was fired from the spectre recruitment program. I'm looking to understand the Council's motivation for not taking the same sort of action with Shepard. I can hazard a guess here, but it's only a guess. By the time Shepard became a Spectre, the Alliance had been part of galactic society for, what, 26 years? Now dial that back to when Anderson was much younger and we're really only 5-15 years in. The Council might have looked at what happened and saw this as a general weakness in humanity, like we weren't ready to do whatever it took to succeed. In contrast, Shepard wasn't afraid to tell the Council they were wrong to disagree until Tali came up with the evidence. To top that off, because they knew they'd screwed up, and that Saren was proven to have gone rogue, they figured Shepard was the one to chase after him. (Plus, we know Shepard was a Spectre candidate before any of this happened.) You're right that Shepard didn't do things the way the Council would have liked, but that's not really the business of the Council. A Spectre has a LOT of autonomy to do the job. Also, Shepard went exactly where the Council suggested: Noveria, Therum, Feros, Virmire. I do agree that the option to hang up on the Council was stupid but there it is. They did finally temper Shepard's actions not because he wasn't chasing Saren anymore - he was - but because they thought Shepard was in the wrong about the true objective. Also, even with autonomy in place, the Council can call an end to an operation. If Shepard had said nothing about the Reapers and Ilos, he could easily have gone there. They just felt he was on a "wild goose chase" and that there might be better things for him to focus on - like Saren and the geth arriving with a fleet. Anderson never made it past being a candidate and I have to imagine that most people don't make the cut (in their eyes) to become a full on Spectre. Anderson wasn't so much fired as he didn't perform as expected. This was colored by the evaluation but Saren who made it seem like Anderson was incapable. He wasn't fired; he never had the job. It was fitting that Shepard got the job for pointing out that Saren was a traitor. Maybe this was even sort of a way of expressing their past mistake (though it might not have been the same councilors) and showing that humanity was actually ready to do their duty.
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I have no opinion on the current topic, so here's something different to whine about:
I'm running through an Ashley romance and finally got to the relationship-confirming scene. Shepard says something like, "You've always been there for me," and I'm like, "No. No she hasn't. WTF Shepard."
Shoulda gone with Miranda instead.
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Post by melbella on May 14, 2018 1:32:05 GMT
I have no opinion on the current topic, so here's something different to whine about: I'm running through an Ashley romance and finally got to the relationship-confirming scene. Shepard says something like, "You've always been there for me," and I'm like, "No. No she hasn't. WTF Shepard." Shoulda gone with Miranda instead.
He's obviously indoctrinated.
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