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Post by AnDromedary on May 24, 2018 19:27:21 GMT
After talking with the groundskeeper about fish in the lake, he will say "if you get to the presidium, checkout the demel flowers across from the conduit". How does he know its a conduit? Why wouldn't he say statue or relay monument like what the squadmates in ME1 called it? Shepard is known as the hero of the Citadel. That indicates to me that the exact events of the battle are pretty well known, including Shepard's arrival though the conduit. In light of this, I'd assume it's common knowladge by the time of ME2 that the relay statue is (or used to be) the conduit.
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Post by themikefest on May 24, 2018 20:36:28 GMT
Shepard is known as the hero of the Citadel. That indicates to me that the exact events of the battle are pretty well known, including Shepard's arrival though the conduit. In light of this, I'd assume it's common knowladge by the time of ME2 that the relay statue is (or used to be) the conduit. Just because Shepard saved the Citadel doesn't mean all the events that happened while chasing Saren would be known.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 24, 2018 21:13:25 GMT
Shepard is known as the hero of the Citadel. That indicates to me that the exact events of the battle are pretty well known, including Shepard's arrival though the conduit. In light of this, I'd assume it's common knowladge by the time of ME2 that the relay statue is (or used to be) the conduit. Just because Shepard saved the Citadel doesn't mean all the events that happened while chasing Saren would be known. No, but the fact that the groundskeeper knows about the conduit does. And I don't see why it wouldn't make sense for people to know what happened.
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Post by themikefest on May 24, 2018 21:33:47 GMT
Who released the information for the groundskeeper to know about the conduit? Why would that information be made known to the public? Since you mentioned exact events, does that mean its common knowledge that folks would know Shepard spoke to a reaper on Virmire? Would that also mean those folks know the details of what Vigil told Shepard?
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Post by sugarless on May 24, 2018 23:12:48 GMT
Really?
Cue X-files music...I would have expected all those alien abductions/sightings to be explained by ocassional, unofficial visits by the alien MW races...
And the salarians do have a vague resemblance to the popular image of "grey aliens." and E.T sort of-ish....lol
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Post by melbella on May 25, 2018 0:44:57 GMT
Who released the information for the groundskeeper to know about the conduit? Why would that information be made known to the public? Since you mentioned exact events, does that mean its common knowledge that folks would know Shepard spoke to a reaper on Virmire? Would that also mean those folks know the details of what Vigil told Shepard?
Because it's located on the Presidium, where lots of people are on a daily basis? People there doing the same stuff they did every other day very likely saw Saren and his geth buddies popping out of the thing, so knew right away exactly what it was as soon as it happened. It's not like the Council could conceal THAT fact since probably hundreds of people saw it activate.
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Post by themikefest on May 25, 2018 0:49:49 GMT
Did they know it was called the conduit?
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Post by melbella on May 25, 2018 1:09:50 GMT
Did they know it was called the conduit?
Shepard called it that while meeting with the Council. It wasn't a closed session so people could have overheard it there and put two and two together. Also, it's a common word so, yeah?
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Post by AnDromedary on May 25, 2018 1:29:17 GMT
Who released the information for the groundskeeper to know about the conduit? Why would that information be made known to the public? Since you mentioned exact events, does that mean its common knowledge that folks would know Shepard spoke to a reaper on Virmire? Would that also mean those folks know the details of what Vigil told Shepard? No, it is specifically said that the council kept Sovereign's true identity as a reaper secret and described it as a geth creation. However, the means by which Shepard arrived might be very well known. After all, the Normandy made a quite spectacular escape from the Citadel before the battle and was subsequently regarded a rogue ship. I assume there must have been some media coverage on that. Since it was clearly known that Shepard arrived in the nick of time at the presidium to defeat Saren and let the fleets including the Normandy through (hence s/he is known as the hero of the Citadel), people would have asked questions how he got there and what happened. I could imagine even if the council and the Alliance wanted to keep it a secret, it would have been tough to do so. And why would they? If they were going to put Shepard up as the poster boy, they might as well tell the story how he and his team discovered Illos, the back door Saren used, etc., etc.
And speaking of Saren, I assume a whole lot of people on the presidium at the time of his arrival must have witnessed him and his geth coming through as well. Assuming not all of them were killed the secret of the conduit was out anyway.
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Post by Sifr on May 25, 2018 1:37:38 GMT
Also it's not like people knowing it's the Conduit might pose a security risk, as I'd imagine that the corresponding Relay on Ilos has since been removed to a more secure location, to prevent anyone from using it to infiltrate the Citadel as Saren had. It was mentioned that the Council sent scientific teams to study the ruins on Ilos, but they found that Vigil was no longer operational (having used the last of it's power to speak to Shepard), which is why it was impossible to verify Shepard's claims about what it said. At least, that's what the Council claims they found on Ilos. They might very well have found Vigil operational, but chosen to conceal it's warnings. It's already evident in ME2 that the Council are attempting to gaslight the public about what actually happened during the Battle of the Citadel, along with discredit Shepard as "delusional" for their claims about the Reapers.
In the Citadel DLC, we even see the Council had purposefully concealed knowledge of the Reapers from everyone in the Archives, so why not lie to Shepard about Vigil being offline, since it was one of the few things that could have proven they were telling the truth?
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Post by themikefest on May 25, 2018 1:48:03 GMT
Shepard called it that while meeting with the Council. It wasn't a closed session so people could have overheard it there and put two and two together. Also, it's a common word so, yeah? No one knew at that time that the mini-me relay on the presidium was the conduit. Shepard learned that when on Ilos.
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Post by melbella on May 25, 2018 2:07:20 GMT
Shepard called it that while meeting with the Council. It wasn't a closed session so people could have overheard it there and put two and two together. Also, it's a common word so, yeah? No one knew at that time that the mini-me relay on the presidium was the conduit. Shepard learned that when on Ilos.
No one knew when? You are talking about the gardener in ME2, 2 years after this happened, and were asking how did HE know to call it that. People have answered your question.
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Post by themikefest on May 25, 2018 2:38:55 GMT
No one knew at that time that the mini-me relay on the presidium was the conduit. Shepard learned that when on Ilos.
No one knew when? You are talking about the gardener in ME2, 2 years after this happened, and were asking how did HE know to call it that. People have answered your question.
What do you mean when? You brought up Shepard mentioning it when talking with the council, but no one knew at that time what it was.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 25, 2018 2:49:12 GMT
But you are calling my arguments garbage and sitting in your corner ranting about how I'm wrong. So why is it OK when you do it, but when I do it it is bad? It is hypocritical to complain when you do the exact same thing. This do as I say not as I do mentality is amusing to say the least, but I have now reached the point I'm genuinely curious if you haven't realized how much of a contradiction your actions are. I bring up legitimate questions and you side step around them or straight up don't answer them. How could that be taken as anything else other then someone avoiding responding to questions because they don't have an actual responds. Well your arguments are not well thought out thus why people consider them to be very wrong. It is not hypocritical to bring up your bullshit. Also dmc1001's actions from what I can tell are not contradicting in nature. Information broker and spy are two different things. A spy is someone who gathers the information. You know breaks into a place and steal documents or simply makes illegal copies from their work place. And information broker is someone who buys and sells information. Basically like the stock market buying and selling stock to get the most money out of it. If she is buying and she has credits the sellers will show up if she gives them a good deal. And if she has good information to sell the buyers will pay good money for that information. What I continually see is people confusing the glorified stock broker she is with the super spy sneak into the Soviet Union's top secret nuclear test site and steal the launch codes set up. And when she becomes the Shadow Broker not only does she have Feron to help but she also has Glyph to help her out. As well like any large organization and entire near self sufficient structure. If the CEO of Bank of America has a heart attack tomorrow the entire company doesn't collapse while they decide to get a new CEO nor does it collapse if that CEO doesn't have a decade or more of experience in banking.
Her jump from one game to the next is no more greater then any other characters. Ash/Kaidan go from cannon fodder grunts to being in charge of a top secret project in the Terminus system to a Specter. Tali goes from a first time away from the Flotilla to leading extremely high risk missions into Geth space. Wrex goes from a disillusioned bounty hunter to the almost defacto ruler of the Krogan on Tuchunka. There are numerous instances of character's advancing more then they would realistically in the time frame and their skill sets.
Hell even her much complained about combat skills aren't a very good target because game play vs story line starts to blur. Ash/Kaidan go from about to die and shooting blindly like someone who has never held a gun before to literally teaming up with a half a dozen Salarians to distract and entire massive base filled to the brim with Geth and tube grown Krogan. Just like it is unrealistic for 3 people to fight their way past an entire invasion force that is protecting a key location. And doing it at a rate and speed that would prevent the already connected Reaper from gaining control of the Citadel (that they build and programed) and kick starting the apocalypse.
Please do show how this isn't well thought out? Because presenting this evidence of what is shown in game and being told one character was an archeologist and the other served time in the military really isn't addressing the points being made. In fact it is rather like you explaining why you liked or disliked an aspect of the game and I replied with "But the chickens juggled the rooster on a Saturday night". And when you rightly point out I'm not really addressing anything I then screech that your arguments are garbage and your a terrible person for thinking I'm wrong because that is all you do.
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Post by opuspace on May 25, 2018 3:39:56 GMT
Well your arguments are not well thought out thus why people consider them to be very wrong. It is not hypocritical to bring up your bullshit. Also dmc1001's actions from what I can tell are not contradicting in nature. Information broker and spy are two different things. A spy is someone who gathers the information. You know breaks into a place and steal documents or simply makes illegal copies from their work place. And information broker is someone who buys and sells information. Basically like the stock market buying and selling stock to get the most money out of it. If she is buying and she has credits the sellers will show up if she gives them a good deal. And if she has good information to sell the buyers will pay good money for that information.
And archaeology and information brokering are vastly different skills as well. DeinonSlayer made a very good point about how information brokering for Liara is like trying to play the stock market with a cursory knowledge of mathematics. It would require being able to read people, know who to trust, how much information to give away and whether they in turn are bluffing or know more than they let on. Liara was established as socially awkward to the point she couldn't even tell when Shepard was joking. We never see her develop the skills, only somehow she has them without any struggle or effort while Garrus, Kaidan, Ashley and Tali all have had some form of military training. When we first see Tali, she doesn't cringe, she throws a grenade and dives for cover when she is ambushed. When we first see Garrus in combat, he's carefully assessing the situation and taking advantage of the enemy's distraction immediately. Ashley was first introduced on the run but able to fight back before regaining ground. The first time we see Liara...she's cowering and shrinking while everyone else is doing the fighting. She doesn't even have the sense to take cover and clearly didn't have the sense to keep calm when she got herself trapped in stasis. She faints every time after a mind meld (while Shiala is hardly winded) and is stumbling and oblivious as to why Ashley or Kaidan are upset when a love triangle occurs between her and them. Gameplay does not support Liara as an experienced combatant or a socially savvy person in ME1. It's all tell, no show. And I've read people's posts about their time in the military. Basic training is more than just marching and shooting guns. It's about training muscle memory, reflexes, psychological endurance and more until you're reacting properly in highly tense situations. Somehow Liara gained a talent for information brokering and fighting with no build up or demonstration of aptitude for it.
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Post by melbella on May 25, 2018 11:59:49 GMT
No one knew when? You are talking about the gardener in ME2, 2 years after this happened, and were asking how did HE know to call it that. People have answered your question.
What do you mean when? You brought up Shepard mentioning it when talking with the council, but no one knew at that time what it was.
You left out the rest of my post: I followed it up with, "It wasn't a closed session so people could have overheard it there and put two and two together."
Shepard knew, based on the recordings from Tali, because that's what Saren called it.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 25, 2018 12:54:29 GMT
Information broker and spy are two different things. A spy is someone who gathers the information. You know breaks into a place and steal documents or simply makes illegal copies from their work place. And information broker is someone who buys and sells information. Basically like the stock market buying and selling stock to get the most money out of it. If she is buying and she has credits the sellers will show up if she gives them a good deal. And if she has good information to sell the buyers will pay good money for that information.
And archaeology and information brokering are vastly different skills as well. DeinonSlayer made a very good point about how information brokering for Liara is like trying to play the stock market with a cursory knowledge of mathematics. It would require being able to read people, know who to trust, how much information to give away and whether they in turn are bluffing or know more than they let on. Liara was established as socially awkward to the point she couldn't even tell when Shepard was joking. We never see her develop the skills, only somehow she has them without any struggle or effort while Garrus, Kaidan, Ashley and Tali all have had some form of military training. When we first see Tali, she doesn't cringe, she throws a grenade and dives for cover when she is ambushed. When we first see Garrus in combat, he's carefully assessing the situation and taking advantage of the enemy's distraction immediately. Ashley was first introduced on the run but able to fight back before regaining ground. The first time we see Liara...she's cowering and shrinking while everyone else is doing the fighting. She doesn't even have the sense to take cover and clearly didn't have the sense to keep calm when she got herself trapped in stasis. She faints every time after a mind meld (while Shiala is hardly winded) and is stumbling and oblivious as to why Ashley or Kaidan are upset when a love triangle occurs between her and them. Gameplay does not support Liara as an experienced combatant or a socially savvy person in ME1. It's all tell, no show. And I've read people's posts about their time in the military. Basic training is more than just marching and shooting guns. It's about training muscle memory, reflexes, psychological endurance and more until you're reacting properly in highly tense situations. Somehow Liara gained a talent for information brokering and fighting with no build up or demonstration of aptitude for it.
How do we know so much about ancient civilizations? How do we know so much about dinosaurs? How do we know if Caligula was an incest loving, horse electing to positions of power, playing music while Rome burns person? We know he isn't because archeologist sort threw information of what is left of the Roman Empire and notice that all that stuff only appears in writing decades after his death. All we know about ancient civilizations are the result of archeologist sorting out information gained from excavation sites as they rarely left intact detailed information about their daily lives. This argument only works if you think the only thing archeologists do is dig in the dirt and nothing more. Because until we pull an Assassin's Creed and invent the Animus to let us look back in time the knowledge of older civilizations and human history before civilizations are brought to us by archeologists.
You also display no knowledge of socially awkward people. Years of willing isolation pursuing her favorite hobby would turn anyone into being awkward socially. Hell just going into a different location can turn someone who normally isn't into a socially awkward person. I'm living example that the idea that someone like that is forced to always be like that for no other reason then movies and TVs has conditioned us to think certain personality traits are permanent and don't exist on a scale but are either full powered or non existent. And until she became the Shadow Broker she was an information broker not the only other information broker that exists besides the Shadow Broker. She had 1 assistant who turned out to be working for someone else in the first place.
We never see anyone develop skills. Game play reasons we don't see a lot of the social interaction between crew mates. Garrus literally will only for the months of the events of ME 1 and then even 2 will do nothing but sit in his spot and never move. Never eating, sleeping or talking to anyone. We never see how Ashely went from a standard grunt that was almost killed with the rest of her platoon while guarding the Prothean artifact on Eden Prime. Being so unimportant she wasn't even informed of what it was. To single handily arming and holding off a literal Geth and Krogan army to allow a makeshift nuclear bomb to go off wiping out Saren's base on Virmire. If she is chosen for that role anyways.
She is cowering because it is a Krogan Battle Master coming to kill her with group of Geth behind him. The game at this point has established that Krogan are extremely difficult to take down due to their biology. Even for a skilled Asari Huntress the deck would be stacked against her. Given a similar sized force was able to attack and wipe out the Alliance military guarding the Prothean Beacon on Eden Prime. I am well aware of what basic training does given I got a brother, uncle and a couple of cousins who spend time in the military. But I also know just because you have served time in the military doesn't mean you are capable of some of the acts shown in game. For example the Navy recruits ~40,000 people a year. Of that number only around 5% qualify for training to become a Navy Seal. And of that only 1 in 4 people pass the training and become an offical Navy Seal.
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Post by opuspace on May 25, 2018 13:08:23 GMT
And archaeology and information brokering are vastly different skills as well. DeinonSlayer made a very good point about how information brokering for Liara is like trying to play the stock market with a cursory knowledge of mathematics. It would require being able to read people, know who to trust, how much information to give away and whether they in turn are bluffing or know more than they let on. Liara was established as socially awkward to the point she couldn't even tell when Shepard was joking. We never see her develop the skills, only somehow she has them without any struggle or effort while Garrus, Kaidan, Ashley and Tali all have had some form of military training. When we first see Tali, she doesn't cringe, she throws a grenade and dives for cover when she is ambushed. When we first see Garrus in combat, he's carefully assessing the situation and taking advantage of the enemy's distraction immediately. Ashley was first introduced on the run but able to fight back before regaining ground. The first time we see Liara...she's cowering and shrinking while everyone else is doing the fighting. She doesn't even have the sense to take cover and clearly didn't have the sense to keep calm when she got herself trapped in stasis. She faints every time after a mind meld (while Shiala is hardly winded) and is stumbling and oblivious as to why Ashley or Kaidan are upset when a love triangle occurs between her and them. Gameplay does not support Liara as an experienced combatant or a socially savvy person in ME1. It's all tell, no show. And I've read people's posts about their time in the military. Basic training is more than just marching and shooting guns. It's about training muscle memory, reflexes, psychological endurance and more until you're reacting properly in highly tense situations. Somehow Liara gained a talent for information brokering and fighting with no build up or demonstration of aptitude for it.
How do we know so much about ancient civilizations? How do we know so much about dinosaurs? How do we know if Caligula was an incest loving, horse electing to positions of power, playing music while Rome burns person? We know he isn't because archeologist sort threw information of what is left of the Roman Empire and notice that all that stuff only appears in writing decades after his death. All we know about ancient civilizations are the result of archeologist sorting out information gained from excavation sites as they rarely left intact detailed information about their daily lives. This argument only works if you think the only thing archeologists do is dig in the dirt and nothing more. Because until we pull an Assassin's Creed and invent the Animus to let us look back in time the knowledge of older civilizations and human history before civilizations are brought to us by archeologists.
You also display no knowledge of socially awkward people. Years of willing isolation pursuing her favorite hobby would turn anyone into being awkward socially. Hell just going into a different location can turn someone who normally isn't into a socially awkward person. I'm living example that the idea that someone like that is forced to always be like that for no other reason then movies and TVs has conditioned us to think certain personality traits are permanent and don't exist on a scale but are either full powered or non existent. And until she became the Shadow Broker she was an information broker not the only other information broker that exists besides the Shadow Broker. She had 1 assistant who turned out to be working for someone else in the first place.
We never see anyone develop skills. Game play reasons we don't see a lot of the social interaction between crew mates. Garrus literally will only for the months of the events of ME 1 and then even 2 will do nothing but sit in his spot and never move. Never eating, sleeping or talking to anyone. We never see how Ashely went from a standard grunt that was almost killed with the rest of her platoon while guarding the Prothean artifact on Eden Prime. Being so unimportant she wasn't even informed of what it was. To single handily arming and holding off a literal Geth and Krogan army to allow a makeshift nuclear bomb to go off wiping out Saren's base on Virmire. If she is chosen for that role anyways.
She is cowering because it is a Krogan Battle Master coming to kill her with group of Geth behind him. The game at this point has established that Krogan are extremely difficult to take down due to their biology. Even for a skilled Asari Huntress the deck would be stacked against her. Given a similar sized force was able to attack and wipe out the Alliance military guarding the Prothean Beacon on Eden Prime. I am well aware of what basic training does given I got a brother, uncle and a couple of cousins who spend time in the military. But I also know just because you have served time in the military doesn't mean you are capable of some of the acts shown in game. For example the Navy recruits ~40,000 people a year. Of that number only around 5% qualify for training to become a Navy Seal. And of that only 1 in 4 people pass the training and become an offical Navy Seal.
Well, I tried. I've pointed out to you why the game does not support her unjustified leap in skills. You've only given excuses for her sloppy actions instead of providing in game support for why she would have skills that were never established. I've pointed out how the others demonstrate their skills instead of just bragging about it. She has no growth shown on screen that didn't go through a writing edit for convenience. "You also display no knowledge of socially awkward people." All I'm going to say is that I have struggled with social awkwardness. It doesn't go away with increased interaction. And it sure as hell doesn't mean I can read people enough to make a business out of it. Liara gaining proficiency in 2 years spits in the face of anyone who does legitimately struggle with social interactions and does more damage in making people think it can be overcome just by more exposure. So thank you, for telling me what I am and what I know. I am sooo fond of when others decide for me what my life is and who I am as a person.
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Post by themikefest on May 25, 2018 16:38:42 GMT
Interesting.
Liara cowers when facing the krogan on Therum. Why? I would do all I could do to survive. Cowering wouldn't be one of them. Lets jump about 3 years into the future. On Thessia, facing a similar situation, Liara this time is wearing armor and has a weapon in her hand. Kai Leng is the enemy. He runs towards her. What does she do? She freezes. She ends up being thrown across the screen or as I like to call it, ends up flying on Kai Leng Airlines. Its obvious she hasn't learned anything in the past 3 years. After talking with Vigil, if t'soni is taken to Ilos, she will want to stay and study the archives. I guess she doesn't want to stop Saren. She's not focused on the mission. On Mars, after seeing the video showing the people dying, she has doubts about stopping the reapers. Having negative waves is not going to help. One thing she says that is funny, during the Mars mission, is she will make a comment about A/K being capable. She may want to look in the mirror.
As far as her being an information broker. It doesn't make sense. In ME1, she will say many times, if taken on missions, that she's studied the prothean's for however long, and even want to stay on Ilos to study the archives. She just forgets about them to go after the shadow broker to find Feron. What's funny is she will say, after the broker is killed, she now can help find a way to stop the reapers. Nothing was stopping her.
With Tali, she throws a grenade to avoid being killed. She most likely would have been killed even if Shepard didn't show. But she did enough to keep herself alive. In ME3, and if her loyalty mission is completed, she is an honorary Admiral. I laughed when I heard that. I laughed even more when I chose the geth and she stood there doing nothing to prevent the upload. So much for that Admiral crap.
I do agree that it didn't make sense for Ashley to rise in rank like she did from ME2 to ME3. I could understand being made Warrant Officer of maybe 2nd or 1st Lt, but a Lt. Commander, no. Then she becomes a spectre. What happens when the sequel is released? Will A/K be reassigned to do what the council wants him/her to do?
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Post by Princess Trejo on May 27, 2018 2:51:57 GMT
Interesting. Liara cowers when facing the krogan on Therum. Why? I would do all I could do to survive. Cowering wouldn't be one of them. Lets jump about 3 years into the future. On Thessia, facing a similar situation, Liara this time is wearing armor and has a weapon in her hand. Kai Leng is the enemy. He runs towards her. What does she do? She freezes. She ends up being thrown across the screen or as I like to call it, ends up flying on Kai Leng Airlines. Its obvious she hasn't learned anything in the past 3 years. After talking with Vigil, if t'soni is taken to Ilos, she will want to stay and study the archives. I guess she doesn't want to stop Saren. She's not focused on the mission. On Mars, after seeing the video showing the people dying, she has doubts about stopping the reapers. Having negative waves is not going to help. One thing she says that is funny, during the Mars mission, is she will make a comment about A/K being capable. She may want to look in the mirror. As far as her being an information broker. It doesn't make sense. In ME1, she will say many times, if taken on missions, that she's studied the prothean's for however long, and even want to stay on Ilos to study the archives. She just forgets about them to go after the shadow broker to find Feron. What's funny is she will say, after the broker is killed, she now can help find a way to stop the reapers. Nothing was stopping her. With Tali, she throws a grenade to avoid being killed. She most likely would have been killed even if Shepard didn't show. But she did enough to keep herself alive. In ME3, and if her loyalty mission is completed, she is an honorary Admiral. I laughed when I heard that. I laughed even more when I chose the geth and she stood there doing nothing to prevent the upload. So much for that Admiral crap. I do agree that it didn't make sense for Ashley to rise in rank like she did from ME2 to ME3. I could understand being made Warrant Officer of maybe 2nd or 1st Lt, but a Lt. Commander, no. Then she becomes a spectre. What happens when the sequel is released? Will A/K be reassigned to do what the council wants him/her to do? Bad lore writings with extreme fan service. Even the Citadel DLC is a comedy skit. Despite gameplay looking good, production values are terrible, from crappy stock photos to background soldiers being very low quality sprites. I do enjoy Leviathan though so it's acceptable if you manage to ignore the flaws.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 17:53:07 GMT
Bad lore writings with extreme fan service. Even the Citadel DLC is a comedy skit. Despite gameplay looking good, production values are terrible, from crappy stock photos to background soldiers being very low quality sprites. I do enjoy Leviathan though so it's acceptable if you manage to ignore the flaws. I think Citadel was made silly on purpose in order to make people feel good. Let's be honest, they wanted to smooth people over who hated the ending. It's kind of like an alternate ending for some. Some people even made a mod which essentially skips right to the DLC after the main game finishes.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 12, 2018 16:32:43 GMT
I just finished playing ME3 a short time ago. I have a theory of why Anderson ended up in a different place than where Shepard was on the Citadel. It was done for the scene having Shepard shoot Anderson. Shepard is standing about 15 feet from Anderson at the time Anderson is shot. How would that scene have played out if both ended up in the same spot after going up the beam? Both get to the console together, and before opening the arms, TIM shows up.
I guess another way it could happen is if Anderson were to tell Shepard, after the large door opens, he will go on ahead to see if there's a console or something to get the arms open. Shepard watches Anderson run ahead. When Shepard sees Anderson at the console, TIM shows up.
Anyways. Its just a theory.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 14:54:21 GMT
If the Citadel beam is considered a teleportation device, I'm not aware of any that send two different people to two different places. We'd end up at the same place.
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Post by AnDromedary on Jun 14, 2018 20:43:35 GMT
If the Citadel beam is considered a teleportation device, I'm not aware of any that send two different people to two different places. We'd end up at the same place.
If it is based on mass relay technology like the conduit, I am surprised they both ended up inside the Citadel in the first place:
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2018 22:55:01 GMT
If it's like a relay, don't you have to dial your destination before you go through it?
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