Bioware needs to stop with the open worlds.

Hah! Yep...most people stop at the Council of Elrond chapter, which is horrifically tedious.  After that, it is pure magic.

But I learned long ago not to hold it against folks for not loving the LOR books.  I nerded out on them when I was 15 (along with heavy does of Led Zeppelin), and they just stuck with me. I have friends who feel that way about the Wheel of Time series...whenever folks start talking about them, I just kinda slink out because I can't get into them at all!  I think these things require early indoctrination. 

yeah I think I like what they did moer this time around tbh as well. Although I liked both DAI and MEA and all the DA and ME games that came out before them as well. Sometimes I think Bioware would be best just doing what they think is right for their respective series and maybe listen less to us as there's no way they'er going t obe able to please all of us anyway because we all have different ideas about the direction we'd each like them to take. For example I'd have probably preferred it if Boiware had kept the old combat system from the trilogy but a lot of people like the fact they've spiced it up too. Yes in one way it's cool to have the actoin be fast and fluisd which it is in MEA but for someone like myself it is harder to play because of my disabilty. Thankfully however other than having t obe slightly quicker on the buttons I'm not finding the game to be too much harder that I can't cope which was something I was concerned about when I first played it. I just think that they've been rtying to incorporate things that don't ework in their games because they've probably been listenin too much to us. I'm not saying they shouldn' t take any advice at all from us but they need t obe smart enough to know how to use it better within the games and worlds they build.

I knew I was going to have problems with Jackson's vision when that collapsing bridge scene showed up on the DVD. Not only did they make a scene that dopey, they were proud of it.

The only reason it seems to be in there is to set up a dwarf-tossing joke.

I know this is sacrilege but allv my favorite Bioware games happened after the merge with EA

Hm you know, that is about Polygons letter to BioWare regarding open world, the open world discussion is just the "subtopic" of the thread topic. Here it is just about open world, though the dicussion and posts seem to be the same. Yah yah I know, cherrypicking, seems to be quite subjective.

Don't get me wrong...I enjoyed the LOR movies in general. They had some great moments (Theodan and the Rohirrim showing up at the battle of Gondor and charging down the mountain was friggen epic), and were visually stunning.

Similarly, MEA had some wonderful moments (touching scenes with Drack, funny moments in Liam's mission, our tense first meeting with the archon on the way to Aya, Kallo and Gil's interactions, etc), and is also pretty.

But I personally don't like things that do not service the story.  And I think alot of the open world drudgery and mindless fetch quests (just like those staircases in LOR) do not service the story. If anything, they detract from the story and make it shrink into the background. 

same for me tbh as my all time favourite Bioware game is ME2. I think they managed the resources better with MEA than they did with DAI as DAI was a little too open in places and for me that's probably the one thing that let it down. MEA on the other hand is better as there aren't as many of them yes they still exist but it's nowhere near the levels of DAI. I'd also asy all my favourite ones have been the more recent games. Because yes ME3 did have a dodgy ending but that aside I can't really fault any of Bioware's recent games. Also ME3 is a decent game imo despite the ending it's only the the ending that for me that let it down. Take tha tending away it's a pretty awesome game other than that which is why I still play it an dam playing it right now working through the Citadel DLC before I move onto the final mission. Also DAI is my favourite of the DA games. Whilst I don't think MEA trumps the trilogy I do think it makes for a much better ME1 style game though than what ME1 did.

Yep, my sentiments also.

Aye they really do. It's woeful. 

14 times? Holy Shit-Snacks...

It'd have to be better than "pretty darn good" for me to play a game that many times. That kind of game would have to be better than sex and clinically proven to ward off Alzheimer disease.


 

And here the more open world efforts of Bioware are in my top 5 all time discussion. Inquisition especially... that is the most immersive and best designed world in gaming and one of the best in all of entertainment. The depth of the lore and how it is integrated into the zones shames every other open world title out there.

Andromeda isn't quite that detailed, but then the story dos limit the cultural impact to the world. At least for that cluster. Still, have more fun in that world than many other games so I am still not seeing why Bioware should wuit with this style. Love the last two games.

Forgot those long as load times for kadaras doors. But yes, having to go back and forth so much in Andromeda is a huge turn-off and just makes it a chore.