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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 24, 2017 19:51:49 GMT
Ok this is getting quite hilarious actually. The reviews for Andromeda were mostly fair and deserved but the press is literally releasing 2nd batch of mostly-negative reviews for clicks When was all this professionalism and criticism when FO4 released? Reviewers can't think for themselves. They score anything that isn't offensively bad 7 and up and then they only consider actual design-related criticisms when they see consumers and fans post about it. It's confirmation bias.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 24, 2017 19:52:12 GMT
Sure. What's your substance exactly? Oh yeah, misinterpreting articles and numbers to suit your needs and proclaim MEA is a giant failure. And that the USA is the only country in the world, right? I don't play basketball, no need to work on my crossover, but it's always fun when someone has to resort to whatever someone is using as avatar to try and hide their own complete lack of substance. Have fun tomorrow on your next hunt for a negative MEA article, maybe that will make you feel good I've posted detailed, thought out posts on what I like and dislike about Andromeda, and what could be improved. All I've seen you post are little hissy fits and attacks on anyone not circle jerking your shared opinion. Oh? I haven't seen these posts. All I see is you posting articles with maybe 1 sentence of yourself introducing it, sometimes horribly so with multiple errors because it seems you've only read the title and didn't bother to read the details. Then followed up by ludicrous arguments once people point out these flaws, to the point where you are just flat out lying. As for my own posts: maybe you should read some other threads besides your own hate threads.
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Post by aglomeracja on Apr 24, 2017 19:55:22 GMT
Author seems to claim that the problem with MEA's open world is that it's to small. That's the last thing I would consider as MEA's problem.
...and she really should learn how to spell "Kadara".
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Post by suikoden on Apr 24, 2017 20:26:32 GMT
Ok this is getting quite hilarious actually. The reviews for Andromeda were mostly fair and deserved but the press is literally releasing 2nd batch of mostly-negative reviews for clicks When was all this professionalism and criticism when FO4 released? Reviewers can't think for themselves. They score anything that isn't offensively bad 7 and up and then they only consider actual design-related criticisms when they see consumers and fans post about it. It's confirmation bias. I think part of the problem is that a 7 is seen as a safe score - not bad, not good. Doesn't offend the publishers enough for them to stop sending our review copies - but dilutes what an actual 7 game would entail. To me, Andromeda is more like a 4, and many reviews sound like that's the score it should get, yet then you see a 7 or 8. It's a safe score.
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Post by kino on Apr 24, 2017 20:35:11 GMT
I've posted detailed, thought out posts on what I like and dislike about Andromeda, and what could be improved. All I've seen you post are little hissy fits and attacks on anyone not circle jerking your shared opinion. Oh? I haven't seen these posts. All I see is you posting articles with maybe 1 sentence of yourself introducing it, sometimes horribly so with multiple errors because it seems you've only read the title and didn't bother to read the details. Then followed up by ludicrous arguments once people point out these flaws, to the point where you are just flat out lying. As for my own posts: maybe you should read some other threads besides your own hate threads. Best part of that article? The reviewer misspells Kadara. Always. How do you misspell a major plot area of the game the entire article? How does the editor not catch it? It made me wonder if she actually played it despite her claim to 69 hrs.
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Post by R1Outcast on Apr 24, 2017 21:07:07 GMT
A day in the life of suikoden: Sleep restlessly, dream of ME3 ending. Wake up, sweaty and distraught. Google for anything Mass Effect/Bioware related with a negative opinion. Post on the BSN. I guess. I loved ME3 and the ending, while you're just a troll with nothing of substance to say that plays bball. Feel free to read the article if you feel the need to post - either that, or keep working on your crossover. As a side note, I guess I'm actually an undead superhero and you're three metrosexual anime dudes?
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Post by rasande on Apr 24, 2017 21:07:34 GMT
Is FO4 in the clickbait headline? No. Not to mention it's been a long time since FO4 release, too late to for the press to appear honest now Also, at least make some more dummy accounts so you don't post all those negative links from same username, rather transparent Ahh yes, another triggered apologist to notch in my belt. Read the article and post, or don't. Attacking me just makes you look insecure about your faith in Bioware.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 21:15:25 GMT
A day in the life of suikoden: Sleep restlessly, dream of ME3 ending. Wake up, sweaty and distraught. Google for anything Mass Effect/Bioware related with a negative opinion. Post on the BSN. I guess. I loved ME3 and the ending, while you're just a troll with nothing of substance to say that plays bball. You loved the most hated ending of a video game franchise ever, and we are supposed to take you seriously in your criticism against Andromeda? Back up, son!
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Post by suikoden on Apr 24, 2017 21:24:59 GMT
I loved ME3 and the ending, while you're just a troll with nothing of substance to say that plays bball. You loved the most hated ending of a video game franchise ever, and we are supposed to take you seriously in your criticism against Andromeda? Back up, son! When Andromeda's metacritic falls to 69% will you take it seriously?
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 24, 2017 21:27:32 GMT
You loved the most hated ending of a video game franchise ever, and we are supposed to take you seriously in your criticism against Andromeda? Back up, son! When Andromeda's metacritic falls to 69% will you take it seriously? Frankly 69 is the least likely number to be taken seriously. Maybe if it hits 68? Yes my mind is usually in the gutter, what of it? :amirite:
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 24, 2017 21:28:11 GMT
I think the game would have been much better if it adopted the ME1 open world idea of smaller but way more of them.
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Post by Terminator Force on Apr 24, 2017 21:37:06 GMT
Seems to me a sudden shift in the wind from reviewers who were happy stoking the open world bubble and now are enjoying throwing punches at it. Well, it does get old fast. For me I enjoyed getting 100% viability up until the 4th & 5th of the main planets (the outlaw & then new Tuchanka). As by then I was like "Well, shit got old. Time to fast forward with them priority missions and get this game done." I'm still trying to explore the rest of the game now, but the mood hasn't been there last 3 times I've tried. Will try again later today.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 24, 2017 21:38:34 GMT
When Andromeda's metacritic falls to 69% will you take it seriously? Frankly 69 is the least likely number to be taken seriously. Maybe if it hits 68? Yes my mind is usually in the gutter, what of it? :amirite: I think 69% would be appropriate I'd probably have to add that in my forum sig. Wouldn't even have to post a response to people like Russell Westbrook - just a down arrow to my signature. He should be able to read arrows. As for the article, not being lived in struck a chord with me - quest givers just felt like placeholders.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 24, 2017 21:47:03 GMT
Frankly 69 is the least likely number to be taken seriously. Maybe if it hits 68? Yes my mind is usually in the gutter, what of it? :amirite: I think 69% would be appropriate I'd probably have to add that in my forum sig. Wouldn't even have to post a response to people like Russell Westbrook - just a down arrow to my signature. He should be able to read arrows. As for the article, not being lives in struck a chord with me - quest givers just felt like placeholders. A 69 metacritic score would be quite serendipitous telling Bioware how much Sara needs a Cora romance. I liked the article, it is one of the few I've read about MEA's open world that isn't just a rant about wanting to return to a corridor shooter ME2 type game. I think there is a lot BW could do to make the worlds feel more alive but there also comes a point where more and bigger just isn't possible with the way video games are developed these days. To the articles point about making the cities bigger and more lived in we would likely have to sacrifice other things (probably the big explorable worlds). Its a balancing act for BW go too big in the open worlds and the smaller more intimate areas suffer. Make the cities larger, more realistic and detailed and the open world areas either disappear or have even less to do in them. I'm not sure what the right answer is, till they plug us all into the Matrix a realistically sized and populated city just isn't possible.
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Post by dm04 on Apr 24, 2017 22:27:38 GMT
I think part of the problem is that a 7 is seen as a safe score - not bad, not good. Doesn't offend the publishers enough for them to stop sending our review copies - but dilutes what an actual 7 game would entail. To me, Andromeda is more like a 4, and many reviews sound like that's the score it should get, yet then you see a 7 or 8. It's a safe score. Rated it 4/10 on metacritics IF they fix all the bugs IF they drasticaly improve the UI IF they bring consistency to all the content (I highly believe they forgot to "uncomment" conditional flags, responsible for when, if, and which content have to fire) IF they improve facial expression even more IF they add more face models to asari and angara IF merchants receive some love and a purpose IF inventory receives some love and a meaning beyond just being a limination IF cluster exploration receives some love and meaning beyond just rightclicking IF planet exploration receives some love and some meaning (like let us find out stuff on our own without a million nav points, and how about SAM memory blocks are tied to map explored and not some navpoints) IF we can custom equip our squad again and while this can be fixed, but not without a ton of work, which would be basicaly a new game IF they give us some pretty decent (realy great) story DLCs that are more MEish (ie more involvment of our squad during conversations and missions and our 4 "tone" choices force 4 different answers and 4 different outcomes) then MEA could actualy reach 7 or even 8
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Post by dm04 on Apr 24, 2017 22:31:15 GMT
When Andromeda's metacritic falls to 69% will you take it seriously? Noone takes profesional revies seriously, they are all biased. I wonder how the people who reviewed ME back in 2007 would review MEA.
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Post by VanSinn on Apr 24, 2017 22:43:07 GMT
I think the game would have been much better if it adopted the ME1 open world idea of smaller but way more of them. I prefer the larger, fewer worlds. Mostly because I like driving the nomad instead of watching Mass Effect relay cutscenes over and over and over again. One quest chain in ME1 could lead you through at least 4-5 of those animations, plus 3-5 minutes or more on each planet, for a total of about 20 minutes of pure travelling before any combat or plot content. ME:A, while it could definitely use some improvements, is HELLUVA lot better than that. Contagion I'll grant you, but at least we weren't driving around on those one-texture planets with the crazy terrain that made the Mako cry.
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Post by lurkinganon on Apr 24, 2017 22:47:48 GMT
simple, this open world is way too bign and lifeless, just gigantic empty maps, to keep the player occupied wasting time with filler content, isntead of quality content So Mass Effect 1.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Apr 24, 2017 23:24:38 GMT
Is there any way we could just have ONE thread for all the Open World discussion, criticisms, and articles? The arguments end up being exactly the same thing, rehashed in five different threads (all with the same OP, coincidentally).
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 24, 2017 23:28:42 GMT
Man I remember being really disappointed in that robot race in FO4. I hear this announcer calling out the funny names of the various robots, and as soon as I get close, I have an Assaultron on my ass. Thank Atom that I had my Fat Man with me. Jesus.
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Post by suikoden on Apr 24, 2017 23:29:42 GMT
Is there any way we could just have ONE thread for all the Open World discussion, criticisms, and articles? The arguments end up being exactly the same thing, rehashed in five different threads (all with the same OP, coincidentally). Deal with it. This article has some different perspectives.
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Post by KaiserShep on Apr 24, 2017 23:32:49 GMT
Just skimming through, one of the reviews used the phrase "lackluster combat". Lol, as if.
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Post by maximusarael020 on Apr 24, 2017 23:33:03 GMT
Is there any way we could just have ONE thread for all the Open World discussion, criticisms, and articles? The arguments end up being exactly the same thing, rehashed in five different threads (all with the same OP, coincidentally). Deal with it. This article has some different perspectives. I didn't say it didn't have different perspectives. What I said is that the arguments from posters and up being the same. Having one consolidated thread for it would be helpful I think.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Apr 24, 2017 23:36:19 GMT
Ok this is getting quite hilarious actually. The reviews for Andromeda were mostly fair and deserved but the press is literally releasing 2nd batch of mostly-negative reviews for clicks When was all this professionalism and criticism when FO4 released? EXACTLY. Fallout 4, in my opinion, and over 1100 hours, is still at best in vanilla with all the DLC, a 6/10. It's a graphical improvement over the last, but the pick-your-path-adventuring is pretty shallow. With all the mods and the fixes by modders (not Bethesda, not at all) brought the game to a 8.5 or so. A lot of amateur YouTubers are making a cottage industry using mods to display videos and it keeps the shortcomings of Fallout 4 to a minimum because the conversation is still going for the game. Andromeda, you're going to find a VAST majority of these videos are pot-shots at the game (and f***ing well deserved), but they're also click-bait. They add nothing new to the conversation except bashing and cumming hard all over Andromeda's clone Asari and Salarian faces.
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