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Post by midnight tea on Jun 11, 2017 15:59:59 GMT
I feel people underestimate the pressure DA4 will face. A lot of negative reviewed points in ME:A were in DA:I too. They can't just make another DA:I like game, because it will get flamed too. The open world design should be imagined from scratch, side quests will need to be better, etc. I wouldn't expect DA4 any time soon. They'll need to re-evalute all the lessons from ME:A and come up with something really good. A lot of negative points in DAI were addressed even in DAI's own DLCs. So I'm not worried about that - as much as they learn from one another, those are two different teams working on two different things. And it's not like DA4 has been frozen, waiting for devs to pick it up later - the core team's been working on something at least since end of 2015.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 16:00:17 GMT
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Post by llandwynwyn on Jun 11, 2017 16:02:01 GMT
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Post by Gwydden on Jun 11, 2017 16:02:38 GMT
I feel people underestimate the pressure DA4 will face. A lot of negative reviewed points in ME:A were in DA:I too. They can't just make another DA:I like game, because it will get flamed too. The open world design should be imagined from scratch, side quests will need to be better, etc. I wouldn't expect DA4 any time soon. They'll need to re-evalute all the lessons from ME:A and come up with something really good. On the other hand, I believe DA:I was generally well received as well as Bioware's best-selling game to date, while ME:A appears to have killed its own sequel. I would imagine there is some pressure for a Dragon Age sequel soon. Even if DA4 releases in 2019, that would still be five years after the previous game. If it comes out in 2020, it would have the longest development cycle of any Bioware sequel ever, not to mention that Bioware was much busier in 2009-2012, back when two Dragon Age games, two Mass Effect games, and The Old Republic were released. Counterargument to my own counterargument: if Anthem doesn't meet expectations, then DA will become Bioware's flagship franchise by default. However, they seem extremely confident in this new game, so if it is even moderately successful I could see them putting everything else in the back burner.
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Post by linksocarina on Jun 11, 2017 16:11:08 GMT
Just dropping a moderator note in here that a request for an Anthem subforum (really, just a general discussion/speculation place for now) has been made, since a few threads started popping up yesterday in places they don't fit since, well, there's no appropriate forum for it yet. Cyonan is the only one with The Power to make subforums, however, so he's been paged. The sooner, the better for sure, especially with Microsoft in 5 hours.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 16:56:49 GMT
Tal Peleg @the_Ur_Quan
Thank you all for your trust and patience! You shall be redeemed. www.tp-artwork.com/single-post/2017/06/11/Dantes-Redemption-ACT-I---towards-the-finish-line … - Tal touches on his work on Anthem briefly as well... "We, at BioWare, have recently announced our brand new IP: Anthem. Everyone at the studio has been very hard at work to make all the difference and aim for the win. We are competitively compelled to reform production practices to genuinely & continuously drive quality and set the bar; not meet it. We are fully invested into Anthem to bring BioWare back into its award winning pedigree. Such commitment requires a great deal of focus and energy."
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Post by Puberty on Jun 11, 2017 17:04:04 GMT
Tal Peleg @the_Ur_Quan
Thank you all for your trust and patience! You shall be redeemed. www.tp-artwork.com/single-post/2017/06/11/Dantes-Redemption-ACT-I---towards-the-finish-line … - Tal touches on his work on Anthem briefly as well... "We, at BioWare, have recently announced our brand new IP: Anthem. Everyone at the studio has been very hard at work to make all the difference and aim for the win. We are competitively compelled to reform production practices to genuinely & continuously drive quality and set the bar; not meet it. We are fully invested into Anthem to bring BioWare back into its award winning pedigree. Such commitment requires a great deal of focus and energy." It's good to hear that they're fully aware of the deep shit they're in and that they're working hard to fix that. They also really do sound passionate about the game, so that's good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 17:34:20 GMT
So, time for an own board on this forum? Instead of the one with the 'share pictures of tits and ass' thread? If that's the stand out thread in the OT someones dodged a bullet.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 19:05:12 GMT
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 19:25:22 GMT
Probably a good time to add the usual disclaimer when watching a demo for a game this far out from release... As most I'm sure are aware, it'll very likely be a demo created specifically for E3, showing what they hope the final game will be like. There may be gameplay elements that don't make it into final game. There may be an overall level of graphic fidelity that doesn't make it into the final game. If you see something in their demo that you really like - let them know. Tweet the official Twitter, Jonathan Warner, etc. Don't assume it'll be in the game just because they showed it off here. At least that way, if enough people chime in, that particular feature might get prioritized when the inevitable cuts begin. And same if you see something you don't like. Just try to be polite and if you can explain why you feel it doesn't work for the game - all the better.
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Post by ulmanicator on Jun 11, 2017 19:29:57 GMT
Other than Anthem, what else do you guys hope to see on MS's show tonight?
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 11, 2017 19:43:03 GMT
Other than Anthem, what else do you guys hope to see on MS's show tonight? Although I think they said they were skipping E3, it'd be great if we saw some RDR2 gameplay. More Tomb Raider? And though I'd expect Beth to announce it if it was happening, SP Doom DLC! Something new & interesting on the Indie front?
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 11, 2017 19:43:54 GMT
I feel people underestimate the pressure DA4 will face. A lot of negative reviewed points in ME:A were in DA:I too. They can't just make another DA:I like game, because it will get flamed too. The open world design should be imagined from scratch, side quests will need to be better, etc. I wouldn't expect DA4 any time soon. They'll need to re-evalute all the lessons from ME:A and come up with something really good. Well Bioware never made same DA game. Every single one is very different from each other. It will be interesting to see what new approach DA4 will take. Also note before ME:A and DA:I, people demanded open world like game for both franchises. Bioware listened to that feedback, but by the point DA:I came out burn out from open world games started. And by the time ME:A came out, people were still very burned out by previous open world game No Man's Sky. As well fanboyism of the Witcher 3 was at the all time high, so every game that wasn't TW3 was bashed and ME:A took the brunt of it as it is competitor in RPG genre. So it was really a terrible timing for ME:A, which nobody could have predicted.
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Post by Fogg on Jun 11, 2017 19:45:25 GMT
Other than Anthem, what else do you guys hope to see on MS's show tonight? Apparantly they might also show some Assassin's Creed: Origins, which is supposed to be good. Also, that pirate game they have, Sea of Thieves. I used to love playing Sid Meier's Pirates, Sea Dogs and stuff like that. MS is making a cartoony one with walking skeletons and zombies, but who knows...
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Post by Fogg on Jun 11, 2017 19:46:45 GMT
I feel people underestimate the pressure DA4 will face. A lot of negative reviewed points in ME:A were in DA:I too. They can't just make another DA:I like game, because it will get flamed too. The open world design should be imagined from scratch, side quests will need to be better, etc. I wouldn't expect DA4 any time soon. They'll need to re-evalute all the lessons from ME:A and come up with something really good. Well Bioware never made same DA game. Every single one is very different from each other. It will be interesting to see what new approach DA4 will take. Also note before ME:A and DA:I, people demanded open world like game for both franchises. Bioware listened to that feedback, but by the point DA:I came out burn out from open world games started. And by the time ME:A came out, people were still very burned out by previous open world game No Man's Sky. As well fanboyism of the Witcher 3 was at the all time high, so every game that wasn't TW3 was bashed and ME:A took the brunt of it as it is competitor in RPG genre. So it was really a terrible timing for ME:A, which nobody could have predicted. I wish I could took reality as selective as you do. Must be so comfortable to live in your own dream world and actually believe that stuff.
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Post by Croatsky on Jun 11, 2017 19:54:05 GMT
I wish I could took reality as selective as you do. Must be so comfortable to live in your own dream world and actually believe that stuff. I guess I imagined people blowing things out of massive proportions with ME:A because of few reasons I pointed out. Oh and I guess I imagined people loving DA:I until after TW3 was released. And I also probably imagined there was a backlash of too many open world games being released from both indie devs and major publishers.
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 11, 2017 19:57:42 GMT
- Wait... so is THAT the infamous T-Shirt? If it is...
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jun 11, 2017 19:58:26 GMT
I feel people underestimate the pressure DA4 will face. A lot of negative reviewed points in ME:A were in DA:I too. They can't just make another DA:I like game, because it will get flamed too. The open world design should be imagined from scratch, side quests will need to be better, etc. I wouldn't expect DA4 any time soon. They'll need to re-evalute all the lessons from ME:A and come up with something really good. From your (steel) lips to the Maker's ear. I agree that the collapse of the ME franchise has now put a heavy revenue burden on the DA franchise, but that's nothing compared to the burden on Anthem. Which is rarely a good thing for a brand new IP.
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Post by midnight tea on Jun 11, 2017 19:59:59 GMT
I keep thinking WHY is this sign familiar to me... Now I know. Haha, suddenly I've been hit by nostalgia
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 11, 2017 20:01:52 GMT
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Jun 11, 2017 20:02:17 GMT
And here's Jonathan Warner's new Twitter Banner... Lower the color temperature a smidge and this could be a screenshot out Horizon: Zero Dawn. So much post-collapse SF action out there, from Doom to HZD. Why? Why?! Is that the only genre people will buy?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 11, 2017 20:03:04 GMT
Interesting. That logo was inside the Mech suit...
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