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Post by Laughing_Crow on May 5, 2017 13:11:26 GMT
"Next one will be out soon." Mike Gamble SourceWonder why it's Edmonton that always 'assumes control' when it comes to announcements and Montreal, the studio behind Andromeda is mute? Mind you I don't check out Twitter at all, just what's posted here, so I may have missed some.
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Post by evhgear on May 5, 2017 13:12:13 GMT
Are they supposed to give some info today ? or another dead silence week ?
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Post by Rascoth on May 5, 2017 13:14:35 GMT
I love the reactions of parts of this community Something gets released Fans: "Gah why didn't you wait, we hate you you ruined everything, take the time to get it right" Something is held to be work on Fans: "Gah, just release it already, stop making us wait, we hate you we want it two days ago" But, but... it's reasonable reaction!
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Post by rothgarioi on May 5, 2017 13:23:18 GMT
Are they supposed to give some info today ? or another dead silence week ? Your guess of "soon" is just as good as mine
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Post by congokong on May 5, 2017 14:45:04 GMT
They cannot abandon single player now, it would be a suicide. Look what's happened to Deus Ex after Mankind Divided - we will probably not see anything in this universe for few years. Deus Ex franchise has gotten benched again. There iss a good reason i have stated both MEA and DXMD are similar in nature. Both games had decent combat but otherwise lacklustre, the games weren't received or reviewed well, sales were low and end up getting the franchise benched. Thats why if Mass effect gets benched it will not be surprising to me as MEA is not just a one off or have we all forgotten the ME3 ending debacle? Now if people blame EA they are mistaken, MEA issues are all self inflicted. Daft design decisions and bad project management. These are all on Bioware and not on EA. Thats why patching cannot really improve the game much as a lot of the flaws are design/management related and you cannot patch those away. Two ways forward, either EA cleans house gets proper management oversight and determines to learn from MEA and make sure next game is better or and a more likely one is just focus on the MP portion, make some cash via micro transactions, put Montreal studio as support dev for other studios and bench the franchise. Dx:MD had the misfortune of being thrown into the hate bandwagon that a lot of people ride without even playing the game; mostly joining the voices in complaining about the (optional) microtransactions. It's a great game that isn't lessened by the option to buy praxis points. What really is a problem is when actual content is removed from games for day-one DLCs or pre-order bonuses, yet having choices in how you spend your money in Dx:MD infuriates people? Inflation is a reality, games are costing more to make, and games have stayed at the same list price for over a decade. Microtransactions are a way to optionally get more $$ from consumers to offset this while giving something in return. But if games go up to $70 at launch, people will complain about that too. At least with ME:A, I can understand some of the hate. It's very buggy, has poor facial animations, lacks the role-playing and story quality of the original trilogy, and is plagued by fetch quests with the boring mako/nomad which I hoped was gone for good after ME1.
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Post by bizantura on May 5, 2017 15:33:19 GMT
Next Mass Effect Andromeda Patch Coming "Soon" According to Producer Michael Gamble
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Post by decafhigh on May 5, 2017 16:00:17 GMT
Next Mass Effect Andromeda Patch Coming "Soon" According to Producer Michael Gamble Meh too little too late. Aside from the hardcore fans that are planning to play the game over and over again most people have already finished and moved on. The next patch could be the single greatest patch released in the history of gaming and it will still mean nothing to the overwhelming majority of players since they'll never see it. If they had been pushing out patches over the last couple of weeks instead of just doing one big patch months after launch maybe some of it would have been salvaged in time to make a difference for folks while they were still playing. Still, good news I guess for that small percentage of hardcore folks though that will still be playing by the time the patch comes.
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Post by congokong on May 5, 2017 16:23:12 GMT
So the patch will "improve the general appearance of characters?" Them appearing at all would be nice. Right now, I see invisible Ryder during movie night and those memory flashbacks. It really cripples those scenes. The sibling disappears as well in the latter.
Ironic when a patch actually creates new problems.
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Post by rothgarioi on May 5, 2017 16:46:01 GMT
Next Mass Effect Andromeda Patch Coming "Soon" According to Producer Michael Gamble Meh too little too late. Aside from the hardcore fans that are planning to play the game over and over again most people have already finished and moved on. The next patch could be the single greatest patch released in the history of gaming and it will still mean nothing to the overwhelming majority of players since they'll never see it. If they had been pushing out patches over the last couple of weeks instead of just doing one big patch months after launch maybe some of it would have been salvaged in time to make a difference for folks while they were still playing. Still, good news I guess for that small percentage of hardcore folks though that will still be playing by the time the patch comes. For my part I paused my first play through because it just became too painful to carry on playing it. Too tedious and frustrating so I'm hoping this patch will smooth over some of that, but we'll see how much it can do that.
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Post by brandoftime on May 5, 2017 16:53:32 GMT
Are they supposed to give some info today ? or another dead silence week ? Your guess of "soon" is just as good as mine Cautiously optimistic it's after the weekend. Just to know what's going on, at this point. Maybe another week for a patch. Ideally, patch out on Monday, but I doubt it.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 5, 2017 17:10:43 GMT
So the patch will "improve the general appearance of characters?" Them appearing at all would be nice. Right now, I see invisible Ryder during movie night and those memory flashbacks. It really cripples those scenes. The sibling disappears as well in the latter. Ironic when a patch actually creates new problems. Not necessarily ironic, breaking codes while trying to patch things up is actually quite natural. It's up to the dev however to minimize that or break a code somewhere else that isn't quite as important. There is no such thing as a bug free game ever, regardless how hard you try to make it so.
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Post by samhain444 on May 5, 2017 17:13:07 GMT
Next Mass Effect Andromeda Patch Coming "Soon" According to Producer Michael Gamble Meh too little too late. Aside from the hardcore fans that are planning to play the game over and over again most people have already finished and moved on. The next patch could be the single greatest patch released in the history of gaming and it will still mean nothing to the overwhelming majority of players since they'll never see it. If they had been pushing out patches over the last couple of weeks instead of just doing one big patch months after launch maybe some of it would have been salvaged in time to make a difference for folks while they were still playing. Still, good news I guess for that small percentage of hardcore folks though that will still be playing by the time the patch comes. I think the truth is somewhere in between. You have hardcore fans that will continue to play regardless, you have the disappointed fans that rage-quit in the beginning that will or will not give them another chance after the patches and fixes to CC, M/M romance, etc, you have the lurkers that are waiting for the fixes before making a purchase, you have the casual gamer that has ME:A on their list behind games that came out in 2016 that they haven't gotten to yet...you're looking at a spectrum, not necessarily somewhere between "I'll play no matter what" and "I'm done" For myself, I've been able to play a full playthrough on both XBox1 and PS4 and have only encountered one bug in each respective playthrough so, player's reaction to the patch news will more than likely vary on their experience.
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Post by decafhigh on May 5, 2017 17:17:55 GMT
I think the truth is somewhere in between. You have hardcore fans that will continue to play regardless, you have the disappointed fans that rage-quit in the beginning that will or will not give them another chance after the patches and fixes to CC, M/M romance, etc, you have the lurkers that are waiting for the fixes before making a purchase, you have the casual gamer that has ME:A on their list behind games that came out in 2016 that they haven't gotten to yet...you're looking at a spectrum, not necessarily somewhere between "I'll play no matter what" and "I'm done" All those little fractions though don't amount to much of the overall playerbase though. I'm not just talking about MEA or even the ME series, just games in general. The largest portion of sales for any game (aside I guess outside online Multi-player and MMO style games) happen in the first two weeks after launch. That is when the most people are buying and playing the game. Most people will get the game, play it, then move on to something else. All the other lurkers and waiters and replayers, etc. are going to be just a fraction of the overall.
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Post by qunaripenis on May 5, 2017 17:19:59 GMT
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Post by samhain444 on May 5, 2017 17:38:48 GMT
I think the truth is somewhere in between. You have hardcore fans that will continue to play regardless, you have the disappointed fans that rage-quit in the beginning that will or will not give them another chance after the patches and fixes to CC, M/M romance, etc, you have the lurkers that are waiting for the fixes before making a purchase, you have the casual gamer that has ME:A on their list behind games that came out in 2016 that they haven't gotten to yet...you're looking at a spectrum, not necessarily somewhere between "I'll play no matter what" and "I'm done" All those little fractions though don't amount to much of the overall playerbase though. I'm not just talking about MEA or even the ME series, just games in general. The largest portion of sales for any game (aside I guess outside online Multi-player and MMO style games) happen in the first two weeks after launch. That is when the most people are buying and playing the game. Most people will get the game, play it, then move on to something else. All the other lurkers and waiters and replayers, etc. are going to be just a fraction of the overall. And the first two weeks, ME:A was the top seller in the UK (no US numbers to speak of though) so they more than likely made their money. I think the actual impact comes with paid DLC releases and a potential ME:A 2. If the DLCs are "meaty" and provide significant content related to say the Quarian Ark (DLC 1), the Jardaan/Scourge (DLC 2, a "Leviathan" type DLC perhaps) and final DLC that deals with the "Mysterious Benefactor" and Jien Garson's murder in somethingt akin to a "Trespasser" DLC from DA:I than I think a lot can patched, added and salvaged. If its DLC that is superficial like "Kasumi: Stolen Memory" or "Arrival" in terms of content, it will be a pretty tone-deaf response from BioWare and I think it would put the interest in the franchise in jeopardy. Ultimately, I think they will need to do what they never have with the Mass Effect series and come out with a "Game of the Year" edition like DA:I in order to stoke any remaining momentum for the next game's release. Otherwise, yeah, they could be too little, too late and perhaps the only way fans in general would give the series another chance is if Mac Walters is not involved anymore.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 18:04:11 GMT
I was wondering if they did sneak a little patch in a few days ago (or maybe I missed that there was one) because on the recent game I decided to roll to play a biotic, some of those bugs that had been present since day one mysterious vanished. I can't imagine they sorted themselves out without dev assistance.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 18:09:12 GMT
Yep, it's not priority anymore, will be hard for them to find any new buyers with such a bad press. I will be not surprised if we will get next patch just ahead SP DLC, which I think will be somewhere in June. I don't think that we will get first paid SP DLC so soon, not when the game is a mess like this, look at DAI, it was not as much buggy at start, but they still were patching it and released first DLC (JoH) on spring 2015 (and DAI was released in November 2014, so it took them 4 months). I personally think we will first get some free stuff like CC DLC (something like Black Emporium), some armors/clothes/weapons and MP packs and ofc patches, and then (maybe in July or August) first story DLC.. But for now enjoy the silence I think we will get it in June/July or August by the latest because I think it is already done for the most part. The quarian bit at the end of the game makes it very clear that this is something we will hear about as is the the not so mysterious ending with the kett that wanted to betray the archon. It seems pretty clear those two are going to show up as DLC and my guess is that the quarians will be the first one because it is made very clear that they are out there and didn't want us to track them down or help them yet. I'm sure that message will be updated once the DLC is out and when you interact with that npc again the message will be different or updated. My guess is that it is mostly done already but they didn't want to discuss it and seem like greedy bastards after the day one dlc they did in ME3.
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Post by mordrek on May 5, 2017 18:19:54 GMT
So after nearly a month of silence, all they give out is "soon". Fucking pathetic.
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Post by Kappa Neko on May 5, 2017 19:17:09 GMT
Meh too little too late. Aside from the hardcore fans that are planning to play the game over and over again most people have already finished and moved on. The next patch could be the single greatest patch released in the history of gaming and it will still mean nothing to the overwhelming majority of players since they'll never see it. If they had been pushing out patches over the last couple of weeks instead of just doing one big patch months after launch maybe some of it would have been salvaged in time to make a difference for folks while they were still playing. Still, good news I guess for that small percentage of hardcore folks though that will still be playing by the time the patch comes. It always pays off to wait about six months these days. I finished Horizon Zero Dawn a couple of weeks ago, game ran incredibly well, only minor glitches. Most polished open world game I've ever played. But another patch is coming that will add stuff to the screenshot mode and give the option to ditch the awful headgear, GODDAMMIT!!! Now I wish I had waited some more... minor things, I know, but I took 400+ screenshots and ran around with crappy armor to avoid the ugly headgear. Oh well. Many games get handy little updates like this down the road. It's not just bug fixes. It's true though that most people want everything now and buy immediately. And it's those people who make companies all the money. Probably the majority, plenty of people wait for sales, however. I see patches as part of maintaining a favorable reputation, so it's an investment basically. People are more inclined to buy future products if they feel the devs care. So even if a game is buggy on release and many finish it before patching is done, it's reassuring to know that bugs will eventually get fixed. And small gameplay additions like mentioned above further improve the reputation because people perceive it to mean the devs want you to have the best possible experience even if it costs them. CDPR's marketing of Witcher 3 was brilliant. The free DLC stunt they pulled worked like a charm to get people to sing their praises.
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Post by R'Shara on May 5, 2017 21:20:30 GMT
I love the reactions of parts of this community Something gets released Fans: "Gah why didn't you wait, we hate you you ruined everything, take the time to get it right" Something is held to be work on Fans: "Gah, just release it already, stop making us wait, we hate you we want it two days ago" Um, no one is saying just release it already. But some word on when it looks like it'll be ready, what's going to be in it, after almost 2 months? Is it that hard to release incremental fixes to show us that they're working on the major problems? Like a hotfix for the dialogue options suddenly always showing the keybind number? And disappearing characters? Those two should be really easy to fix. Or infinite enemy spawn in some quests. Or quest items not spawning. Easy fixes that should be fast to release, instead of this dead silence.
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Post by decafhigh on May 5, 2017 21:27:22 GMT
Um, no one is saying just release it already. But some word on when it looks like it'll be ready, what's going to be in it, after almost 2 months? Is it that hard to release incremental fixes to show us that they're working on the major problems? Like a hotfix for the dialogue options suddenly always showing the keybind number? And disappearing characters? Those two should be really easy to fix. Or infinite enemy spawn in some quests. Or quest items not spawning. Easy fixes that should be fast to release, instead of this dead silence. The game has been out 6 1/2 weeks now with one patch. One patch. A patch made by a third party QA company that was finished before the game even released. Not sure what BW is doing over there but they certainly don't seem concerned about MEA. Given the reception and the frankly embarrassing issues the game was launched with I would have expected them to be much more urgent in getting fixes out. But I can see from their perspective too, they already got their money so piss on the issues.
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Post by samhain444 on May 5, 2017 22:31:08 GMT
Um, no one is saying just release it already. But some word on when it looks like it'll be ready, what's going to be in it, after almost 2 months? Is it that hard to release incremental fixes to show us that they're working on the major problems? Like a hotfix for the dialogue options suddenly always showing the keybind number? And disappearing characters? Those two should be really easy to fix. Or infinite enemy spawn in some quests. Or quest items not spawning. Easy fixes that should be fast to release, instead of this dead silence. The game has been out 6 1/2 weeks now with one patch. One patch. A patch made by a third party QA company that was finished before the game even released. Not sure what BW is doing over there but they certainly don't seem concerned about MEA. Given the reception and the frankly embarrassing issues the game was launched with I would have expected them to be much more urgent in getting fixes out. But I can see from their perspective too, they already got their money so piss on the issues. Sinclair Networks actually started working on the patch on March 20th, they have a post about it on their Facebook page. They completed a 5+ GB patch of which BioWare released 2 GB on April 6th and sent the rest back for rework so, what we are getting in the near future it most likely an update of some, if not all, of the remaining 3+ GB of that initial patch and then probably additional content related to the Character Creator/romance options update. Sinclair Network appears to be a pretty legit 3rd party source as they are dealing with a lot of content for Rockstar on GTAV and Red Dead Redemption 2. Also, the CEO settled out of court for millions in a recent dispute with Ubisoft over content related to their Wildlands release. Another interesting tidbit was within the comments section of the thread where they (Sinclair) stated their intention was to announce on March 4th that the release date be postponed until June 20th but was told (doesn't say whether EA or BioWare) that this was not an option.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 5, 2017 22:33:21 GMT
Sneak peak of the patch ?... Heh, why not teaser, and 4 days later trailer ? This is just wrong. Ok, i understand, they are still working on it, but for a God sake it will be really nice to get some more info than "soon". Communication like in the Stone Age.
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Post by isaidlunch on May 6, 2017 2:13:48 GMT
I think I'll just come back in a year when this game is out of beta.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 6, 2017 2:18:23 GMT
I think I'll just come back in a year when this game is out of beta. #soon
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