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human adept vs bronze tutorial chosen
1 point in powers (shockwave, singularity & pull)

Singularity 1 + Shockwave 1 combo vs health on bronze was 175 damage ..
Pull 1 + Shockwave 1 combo vs health on bronze was 175 damage ..
pull next to no damage, hitting ground after pull expires - next to no damage.

SPOILER: Click to show

Timediff: 11.693 Damage : 260.000
Timediff: 14.526 Damage : 17.500 // singularity DOT 35 per second means 17.5 per half second
Timediff: 0.494 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.500 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.491 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.497 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.484 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.491 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.494 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.490 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 3.226 Damage : 1.000
Timediff: 29.892 Damage : 1.000
Timediff: 18.758 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.491 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.495 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.456 Damage : 260.000 // shockwave
Timediff: 0.008 Damage : 175.000 // COMBO
Timediff: 0.021 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.493 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.488 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.491 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.491 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.491 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.492 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 0.960 Damage : 17.500
Timediff: 10.589 Damage : 275.000 // melee

Timediff: 87.533 Damage : 1.000 // pull
Timediff: 4.022 Damage : 260.000 // shockwave impact
Timediff: 0.008 Damage : 175.000 // combo

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Woohoo Peddroelm is back! This forum has value now!

Thank you for your time and effort.

Those headshot multipliers are quite disappointing. Good to know the armor calculation is still similar.

I haven't had a ton of time to play this game recently, but I'll try to help out with some testing when I can. We really need the enemy health table, that'll make things a lot easier.

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Numerical Damage Tests Apr 28, 2017 11:00:16 GMT capn233, kouzje, and 3 more like this

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Testing headshots with raptor X:

Bronze adhi:

660
534 Damage- 126 / body
408 Damage- 126
282 Damage- 126
137.1 Damage- 144.9 / head

Bronze Raider:

783.73
657.73 Damage - 126 / body
531.75 Damage - 125.98
355.53 Damage - 176.22 / head

Bronze Wraith:

1031.25
905.25 Damage - 126 / body
779.25 Damage - 126
653.25 Damage - 126
527.25 Damage - 126
401.25 Damage - 126
256.35 Damage - 144.9 / head

Bronze chosen:

825
699 Damage - 126 / body
573 Damage - 126
396.6 Damage - 176.4 / head

Edit: Bronze health values:
adhi: 660
Raider: 783.75
Chosen: 825
Wraith: 1031.25

-Headshot multiplier changes depending on the enemy, 1.4 for raiders and chosen, 1.15 for wraiths and adhis.

Last Edit: Apr 28, 2017 11:03:32 GMT by hardcoresalmon

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So......use penetration mods?

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Numerical Damage Tests Apr 28, 2017 12:15:31 GMT capn233, Kenny Bania, and 7 more like this

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Post by hardcoresalmon on Apr 28, 2017 12:15:31 GMT

Testing sustained fire - rank 6a passive and Combat cloak rank 6b, vs gold raider:

Timediff: 3500.215 Damage : 84.960
Timediff: 44.559 Damage : 84.960 / (72 *(1+0.18)) = 84.9
Timediff: 1.038 Damage : 86.659 / (72 *(1+0.18))*1.02 = 86.6592 / 2%
Timediff: 0.626 Damage : 88.358 / 4%
Timediff: 3.493 Damage : 84.960 / 0% after 3.5 seconds
Timediff: 1.429 Damage : 86.659
Timediff: 0.429 Damage : 88.358
Timediff: 0.228 Damage : 90.058
Timediff: 0.262 Damage : 91.757
Timediff: 0.227 Damage : 93.456
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 95.155
Timediff: 0.229 Damage : 96.854
Timediff: 0.197 Damage : 98.554
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 100.253
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 101.952
Timediff: 1.164 Damage : 103.651
Timediff: 1.461 Damage : 105.350 / (72 *(1+0.18))*1.24 = 105.3504 - 24%
Timediff: 24.340 Damage : 149.760 / (72 *(1+0.18+0.9)) = 149.76 - cloaked
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 152.755
Timediff: 30.001 Damage : 140.184
Timediff: 0.761 Damage : 142.988
Timediff: 4.900 Damage : 149.760
Timediff: 5.695 Damage : 84.960 / 0%
Timediff: 0.228 Damage : 86.659 / 2%
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 88.358 / 4%
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 90.058 / 6%
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 91.757 / 8%
Timediff: 0.432 Damage : 93.456 / 10%
Timediff: 0.159 Damage : 95.155 / 12%
Timediff: 0.226 Damage : 96.854 / 14%
Timediff: 0.174 Damage : 98.554 / 16%
Timediff: 0.162 Damage : 100.253 / 18%
Timediff: 5.225 Damage : 149.760 / 0% + cloak
Timediff: 0.197 Damage : 152.755 / 2% + cloak
Timediff: 1.034 Damage : 155.750 / 4% + cloak
Timediff: 0.191 Damage : 158.746 / 6% + cloak
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 161.741 / 8% + cloak
Timediff: 0.161 Damage : 164.736 / 10% + cloak
Timediff: 0.197 Damage : 95.155 / 12%
Timediff: 0.193 Damage : 96.854 / 14%
Timediff: 22.242 Damage : 0.500
Timediff: 0.497 Damage : 0.500
Timediff: 5.428 Damage : 149.760
Timediff: 0.227 Damage : 152.755
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 155.750
Timediff: 0.167 Damage : 158.746
Timediff: 0.159 Damage : 161.741
Timediff: 0.427 Damage : 164.736
Timediff: 0.394 Damage : 167.731
Timediff: 11.061 Damage : 149.760
Timediff: 0.225 Damage : 152.755
Timediff: 0.425 Damage : 155.750
Timediff: 0.192 Damage : 158.746
Timediff: 0.229 Damage : 161.741
Timediff: 1.595 Damage : 93.456
Timediff: 0.225 Damage : 95.155
Timediff: 12.962 Damage : 149.760
Timediff: 0.198 Damage : 152.755
Timediff: 0.227 Damage : 256.988
Timediff: 0.180 Damage : 261.930
Timediff: 0.193 Damage : 266.872
Timediff: 0.159 Damage : 271.814
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 276.756
Timediff: 0.161 Damage : 170.726
Timediff: 0.205 Damage : 173.722
Timediff: 0.158 Damage : 176.717
Timediff: 213.362 Damage : 149.760
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 152.755
Timediff: 0.160 Damage : 155.750
Timediff: 1.694 Damage : 90.058
Timediff: 10.494 Damage : 149.760
Timediff: 0.227 Damage : 152.755
Timediff: 0.204 Damage : 155.750
Timediff: 0.186 Damage : 158.746
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 161.741
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 164.736
Timediff: 0.227 Damage : 167.731
Timediff: 0.203 Damage : 170.726
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 173.722
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 176.717 / Damage cloak also lasted 2 seconds
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 101.952
Timediff: 0.161 Damage : 103.651
Timediff: 0.228 Damage : 173.828
Timediff: 0.194 Damage : 173.828
Timediff: 0.227 Damage : 173.828

-Sustained fire bonus is multiplicative and will wear off after about 3 seconds.
-Combat cloak lasted for 2 seconds also, meaning this evolution only gives you a visual cloak for 2 seconds because the base damage duration is also 2 seconds

EDIT: changed names and explanation

Last Edit: Apr 28, 2017 13:07:54 GMT by hardcoresalmon

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Apr 27, 2017 16:30:13 GMT JRandall0308 said:

I wonder why they designed such a complicated system. *puzzled* I guess with computers you can do math as fast as you want. I know that in TTRPGs which is more my background I would never design anything this complicated, because nobody would be able to do the math fast enough to keep the game flowing.

Manveer is notorious for doing stuff like this, dating all the way back to when he worked at Raven.

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Numerical Damage Tests Apr 28, 2017 12:30:21 GMT

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Apr 28, 2017 12:15:31 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

-Damage cloak lasted for 2 seconds also, meaning this evolution only gives you a visual cloak for 2 seconds

I'm reporting this as a bug. That is CLEARLY not what Cloak 6 claims to be doing.

Bug report: answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Multiplayer-Combat-Cloak-Tactical-Cloak-6b-Doesn-t-Work-As/m-p/6031455#M16276

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Apr 28, 2017 12:30:21 GMT JRandall0308 said:

Apr 28, 2017 12:15:31 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

-Damage cloak lasted for 2 seconds also, meaning this evolution only gives you a visual cloak for 2 seconds

I'm reporting this as a bug. That is CLEARLY not what Cloak 6 claims to be doing.

It isn't specifically claiming it extends the damage duration either (you infer it probably because you would like it to be true.).

It extends the duration until cloak expires (can stay hidden for longer). Less potent bonus for most applications - but it doesn't make them liars for wording it this way ..

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Apr 28, 2017 12:30:21 GMT JRandall0308 said:

Apr 28, 2017 12:15:31 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

-Damage cloak lasted for 2 seconds also, meaning this evolution only gives you a visual cloak for 2 seconds

I'm reporting this as a bug. That is CLEARLY not what Cloak 6 claims to be doing.

Actually. It does what it says. The damage buff IS active while you are cloaked. It just fails to mention that everyone gets as 2s damage buff after breaking cloak. Combat Cloak is absolute trash obviously, but it is actaully correct by a strict reading of the description.

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Combat Cloak
Tactical Cloak remains active briefly after attacking. Damage bonuses remain in effect during this time.
Cloak Duration After Attack (s): 2

Tactical Cloak
Employs light-bending technology to render the user invisible at the cost of shield and health regeneration. Guns, powers, and melee attacks used from cloak gain a damage bonus but break the cloaking effect.

One of these things is not true.

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The bug here is the fact that the base cloak damage duration is 2 seconds, when it shouldn't be. Combat cloak would have no reason to exist if that was intended.

Theoretically, this means you could take cloak to rank 4 and you wouldn't be missing out on any damage.

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Apr 28, 2017 12:15:31 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

-Damage cloak lasted for 2 seconds also, meaning this evolution only gives you a visual cloak for 2 seconds

I expected this. Gonna respec to use escape artist.

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Numerical Damage Tests Apr 28, 2017 12:59:16 GMT

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Post by benzoright on Apr 28, 2017 12:59:16 GMT

Apr 28, 2017 12:15:31 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

Testing sustained fire - rank 6a passive and damage cloak, vs gold raider:
[snip]
-Damage cloak lasted for 2 seconds also, meaning this evolution only gives you a visual cloak for 2 seconds

Forgive me if I'm being dense, but what is "damage cloak"? Are you referring to rank 6b Combat Cloak? If so, would it be more definitive to not have that evolution selected and see if the cloak damage bonus still lasts for 2 seconds without it?

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Apr 28, 2017 12:59:16 GMT benzoright said:

Apr 28, 2017 12:15:31 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

Testing sustained fire - rank 6a passive and damage cloak, vs gold raider:
[snip]
-Damage cloak lasted for 2 seconds also, meaning this evolution only gives you a visual cloak for 2 seconds

Forgive me if I'm being dense, but what is "damage cloak"? Are you referring to rank 6b Combat Cloak? If so, would it be more definitive to not have that evolution selected and see if the cloak damage bonus still lasts for 2 seconds without it?

Yeah rank 6B.

I can test it again if you like but Peddro already tested this in the OP and it was 2 seconds without the evolution.

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Testing remnant weapons against shields:

Equalizer 7 wrong in menu: 78
PAW 3 wrong in menu: 40

Equalizer 7

Vs raider on gold:

2256.25
2191.25 Damage: 65

Vs sharpshooter shields on gold:

Timediff: 2.942 Damage : 74.750 / body / 65 * 1.15 = 74.75
Timediff: 2.944 Damage : 74.750 / body
Timediff: 0.102 Damage : 104.650 / head / (65 * 1.15)* 1.4 = 104.65
Timediff: 0.104 Damage : 104.650 / head

PAW 3

Gold raider:

2191.25
2155.25 Damage: 36

Gold sharpshooter:

Timediff: 0.092 Damage : 41.400 / body / 36 * 1.15 = 41.4
Timediff: 0.064 Damage : 41.400 / body
Timediff: 0.093 Damage : 57.960 / head / (36 * 1.15) * 1.4 = 57.96
Timediff: 0.095 Damage : 57.960 / head

-Sharpshooter shields on gold: 1187.5
-The PAW and Equalizer get a 15% bonus to shields

Still having trouble finding armor values of enemies on gold, there are way too many values. The shield value was actually 1 of 7 possible values.

Last Edit: Apr 28, 2017 17:25:16 GMT by hardcoresalmon

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Apr 28, 2017 17:23:24 GMT hardcoresalmon said:

Testing remnant weapons against shields:

Equalizer 7 wrong in menu: 78
PAW 3 wrong in menu: 40

Equalizer 7

Vs raider on gold:

2256.25
2191.25 Damage: 65

Vs sharpshooter shields on gold:

Timediff: 2.942 Damage : 74.750 / body / 65 * 1.15 = 74.75
Timediff: 2.944 Damage : 74.750 / body
Timediff: 0.102 Damage : 104.650 / head / (65 * 1.15)* 1.4 = 104.65
Timediff: 0.104 Damage : 104.650 / head

PAW 3

Gold raider:

2191.25
2155.25 Damage: 36

Gold sharpshooter:

Timediff: 0.092 Damage : 41.400 / body / 36 * 1.15 = 41.4
Timediff: 0.064 Damage : 41.400 / body
Timediff: 0.093 Damage : 57.960 / head / (36 * 1.15) * 1.4 = 57.96
Timediff: 0.095 Damage : 57.960 / head

-Sharpshooter shields on gold: 1187.5
-The PAW and Equalizer get a 15% bonus to shields

Still having trouble finding armor values of enemies on gold, there are way too many values. The shield value was actually 1 of 7 possible values.

Funny thing is the PAW is such trash that you cannot even notice the bonus.

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Most of the numbers thus far are from hardcoresalmon not me.
I've yet to finish my first bronze game (missing everything

) and it doesn't look great for this weekend either (have guests).

test vs bronze armor humanoid Anarchist (tech armor - but only visual no damage resist)
avenger 1 35 base
predator 1 54 base
engineer 10% power bonus
cryo beam 1 ; 135 DPS // HITS 5 times per second listed DPS/5 per tick. PROVIDES 50% (MULTIPLICATIVE) damage bonus TO ALL DAMAGE SOURCES ~5+ seconds vs chilled armor (party friendly ?)
turret 1 23 per shot
overload 1 150 initial ?

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Timediff: 1084.989 Damage : 15.000 // 35 - 20 avenger
Timediff: 1.563 Damage : 15.000
Timediff: 11.064 Damage : 15.000
Timediff: 4.565 Damage : 29.700 // cryo sustained (135 / 5) * (1 + 0.1) = 29.7
Timediff: 0.161 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.230 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 2.530 Damage : 21.300 //?
Timediff: 6.498 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.161 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.230 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.197 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 1.696 Damage : 32.500 // avenger vs chilled 35 * 1.5 - 20
Timediff: 0.129 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.097 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.129 Damage : 53.500 // avenger avenger vs chilled HS 35 * 1.5 * 1.4 - 20
Timediff: 0.228 Damage : 53.500
Timediff: 0.329 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.230 Damage : 53.500
Timediff: 0.096 Damage : 53.500
Timediff: 1.862 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.132 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.094 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.129 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.096 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.430 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.129 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.095 Damage : 32.500
Timediff: 0.129 Damage : 32.306
Timediff: 1.462 Damage : 23.748 // ? turret ?// thawing ?
Timediff: 0.130 Damage : 22.970 // ?
Timediff: 0.463 Damage : 20.248 // ?
Timediff: 0.429 Damage : 32.807 // ? hs

Timediff: 16.529 Damage : 34.000 // predator 54 - 20
Timediff: 0.263 Damage : 69.100 // predator HS 54 * 1.65 - 20
Timediff: 2.462 Damage : 34.000
Timediff: 0.329 Damage : 34.000
Timediff: 6.629 Damage : 34.000
Timediff: 0.463 Damage : 34.000
Timediff: 6.863 Damage : 29.700 // cryo sustained (135 / 5) * (1 + 0.1) = 29.7
Timediff: 0.161 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.229 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 15.164 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.162 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.229 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.197 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.197 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 29.700
Timediff: 1.529 Damage : 61.000 // predator body vs chilled (54 * 1.5) - 20 = 61
Timediff: 0.363 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.228 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.263 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.229 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.165 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.193 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.195 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.196 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 1.796 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.330 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.262 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.263 Damage : 61.000
Timediff: 0.228 Damage : 58.900 // thawing lowers debuff
Timediff: 0.263 Damage : 56.499 // thawing lowers debuff
Timediff: 0.529 Damage : 51.698 // thawing lowers debuff
Timediff: 0.629 Damage : 45.997 // thawing lowers debuff
Timediff: 2.230 Damage : 34.000
Timediff: 0.562 Damage : 34.000
Timediff: 0.463 Damage : 34.000
Timediff: 5.563 Damage : 69.100
Timediff: 0.829 Damage : 34.000

melee vs armor
Timediff: 69.696 Damage : 275.000
Timediff: 1.531 Damage : 275.000

Last Edit: May 3, 2017 6:53:29 GMT by peddroelm

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