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Post by hardcoresalmon on May 2, 2017 19:13:32 GMT
could be calculated off base weapon damage. need to compare 3.125 * 2 * 5 = 31.25 with the carniflex's base damage .. (what level carniflex was used in test ? other damage bonuses ?) What is listed on the ammo's card ? Then fire two bullets and see if the DOT total damage matches .. Level X no passives or buffs, base damage 225.5 By that formula it would be 22.55 if it scaled with base damage EDIT: when I say stacking I don't mean when I shoot more than once and the DOT does more damage, I mean that the base damage does not affect the DOT at all. Avenger: 47 - 1 stack 3.1 Carnifex: 225.5 - 1 stack 3.1 doesn't scale |
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Post by hardcoresalmon on May 2, 2017 19:14:34 GMT
I'm assuming that you're taking in both the Avenger and Carni in the same match and testing them both? Is there a chance that cryo isn't properly applying to a second weapon? Was the carni chilling enemies? That could be the case. What's strange is that incendiary applied to both weapons. |
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Post by bjorndadwarf on May 2, 2017 19:17:52 GMT
I'm assuming that you're taking in both the Avenger and Carni in the same match and testing them both? Is there a chance that cryo isn't properly applying to a second weapon? Was the carni chilling enemies? That could be the case. What's strange is that incendiary applied to both weapons. Yeah, I had assumed it worked with the earlier ammo tests, so that makes it extra strange. Not just like it's the Carni that's bugged, or second weapons that are bugged. Maybe Cryo specifically? |
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Post by lennybusker on May 2, 2017 19:19:43 GMT
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Post by bjorndadwarf on May 2, 2017 19:23:12 GMT
I'm assuming that you're taking in both the Avenger and Carni in the same match and testing them both? Is there a chance that cryo isn't properly applying to a second weapon? Was the carni chilling enemies? That could be the case. What's strange is that incendiary applied to both weapons. Actually, wait a minute, am I looking at the Incendiary tests right? It looks like the Carni is getting the DoT effect, but is NOT getting the 2.5 percent bonus, while the Avenger is? Carni Vs Armor Incendiary Carni - HP, 2715.116, 3562.500, 3562.500, 3347.000, Damage: -215.500 Cryo Carni - HP, 1493747911, 3380.796, 3562.500, 2835.349, 2619.849, Damage: -215.500 Base Damage 225.5 - Gold Armor 225.5-10 - 215.5 - No bonus from either ammo type Avenger vs Armor and Health Incendiary Avenger - HP, 1493747282, 2751.852, 3562.500, 2282.350, 2244.175, Damage: -38.175 (-10 from armor) Cry Avenger - HP, 1493747956, 3425.321, 9751A0C0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1851.825, Damage: -48.175 Avenger Base damage 47 - With Both ammo types - 47 * (1 + 0.025) = 48.175 So the avenger is getting a 2.5 percent bonus from both ammo types, and the Carni is not, but is getting the DoT from Incendiary (and I"m guessing the chill from Cryo?). |
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Post by hardcoresalmon on May 2, 2017 19:26:24 GMT
Actually, wait a minute, am I looking at the Incendiary tests right? It looks like the Carni is getting the DoT effect, but is NOT getting the 2.5 percent bonus, while the Avenger is? *SNIP* So the avenger is getting a 2.5 percent bonus from both ammo types, and the Carni is not, but is getting the DoT from Incendiary (and I"m guessing the chill from Cryo?). I think the Pariah did get chilled from the carnifex yeah, that is very strange. I would do more testing with ammo types but I literally have none left lol |
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Post by bjorndadwarf on May 2, 2017 19:33:56 GMT
Actually, wait a minute, am I looking at the Incendiary tests right? It looks like the Carni is getting the DoT effect, but is NOT getting the 2.5 percent bonus, while the Avenger is? *SNIP* So the avenger is getting a 2.5 percent bonus from both ammo types, and the Carni is not, but is getting the DoT from Incendiary (and I"m guessing the chill from Cryo?). I think the Pariah did get chilled from the carnifex yeah, that is very strange. I would do more testing with ammo types but I literally have none left lol Definitely something to dig into when someone has time. I've actually been wanting to jump into the testing stuff with y'all, because right now this looks like more fun than playing the game, but between being out of town and catching up on work since I got back, I haven't had time. I've got a bunch of elemental ammos because I've basically quit using them when I have been playing, hoping for an eventual buff to combos. Haven't really seemed worth using as it stands right now. Maybe Wednesday or Thursday I'll have time if no one has got to it by then. |
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Post by peddroelm on May 2, 2017 19:39:48 GMT
why did you not fire avenger single shot to see the total damage amount for avenger ?
Maybe fire ammo DOT is totally independent on weapon used ? SCALES ONLY WITH ROF ?
3.125 * 3 = 9.375
two shots .. total damage inflicted (wait for all dot ticks), 3 shots same ..etc . Should scale perfectly linearly if they learned anything from ME3MP.
Also missed opportunity to detonate some combos ..
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Post by hardcoresalmon on May 2, 2017 20:03:31 GMT
why did you not fire avenger single shot to see the total damage amount for avenger ? Maybe fire ammo DOT is totally independent on weapon used ? SCALES ONLY WITH ROF ? 3.125 * 3 = 9.375 two shots .. total damage inflicted (wait for all dot ticks), 3 shots same ..etc . Should scale perfectly linearly if they learned anything from ME3MP. Also missed opportunity to detonate some combos .. I didn't test that at the time. It just adds up and it's obvious that it doesn't scale by base damage. Maybe it scales by the level of the incendiary rounds. It basically means that there is no point in bringing indendiary rounds if you use a slow firing weapon, unless you just want detonations. |
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Post by kalil on May 2, 2017 20:37:09 GMT
What is known about stealth grid (with and without ambush grid) and avenger strike? Did anyone get around to test this?
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Post by lennybusker on May 2, 2017 20:41:29 GMT
What is known about stealth grid (with and without ambush grid) and avenger strike? Did anyone get around to test this? I can't speak for testing the actual % damage boost but I did test and confirmed that it does not give you "free" lingering damage boost with fast ROF weapons the way Tac Cloak does. First round boosted only. |
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Post by hardcoresalmon on May 2, 2017 20:51:48 GMT
What is known about stealth grid (with and without ambush grid) and avenger strike? Did anyone get around to test this? We are limited by progression and leveling at the moment, I don't have a class with stealth gird or avenger stike leveled up because I never played them before and basically have stopped playing this game other than testing lol. Plus I've been testing other things, there are so many things still to test. |
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Post by hardcoresalmon on May 2, 2017 21:03:25 GMT
Testing Assault rifles against Armor, just to see if they have any bonuses: type, osTime, osClock, hpAddress, hpMax, hpBefore, hpAfter, hpDiff
Zalkin X
HP, 1493745052, 521.724, 97CB7730, 3562.500, 3562.500, 3496.500, -66.000
HP, 1493745054, 523.687, 97CB7730, 3562.500, 3496.500, 3430.500, -66.000
HP, 1493745065, 534.829, 97CB7730, 3562.500, 3430.500, 3315.100, -115.400
Avenger X
HP, 1493745068, 537.989, 97CB7730, 3562.500, 3315.100, 3259.300, -55.800
HP, 1493745069, 538.625, 97CB7730, 3562.500, 3259.300, 3203.500, -55.800
HP, 1493745069, 539.190, 97CB7730, 3562.500, 3203.500, 3166.500, -37.000
Mattock X
HP, 1493745283, 753.252, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3562.500, 3468.550, -93.950
HP, 1493745284, 753.692, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3468.550, 3415.550, -53.000
HP, 1493745285, 754.643, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3415.550, 3321.600, -93.950
HP, 1493745285, 755.002, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3321.600, 3227.650, -93.950
HP, 1493745286, 755.749, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3227.650, 3133.700, -93.950
Cyclone X
HP, 1493745302, 771.365, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3133.700, 3096.700, -37.000
HP, 1493745302, 771.471, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3096.700, 3040.900, -55.800
HP, 1493745302, 771.553, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3040.900, 3003.900, -37.000
HP, 1493745302, 771.654, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 3003.900, 2966.900, -37.000
HP, 1493745302, 771.908, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 2966.900, 2911.100, -55.800
HP, 1493745307, 776.510, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 2911.100, 2855.300, -55.800
HP, 1493745307, 776.574, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 2855.300, 2799.500, -55.800
HP, 1493745307, 776.675, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 2799.500, 2762.500, -37.000
HP, 1493745307, 776.775, 97F119A0, 3562.500, 2762.500, 2725.500, -37.000
Sweeper 5
HP, 1493745546, 1016.158, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3562.500, 3502.500, -60.000
HP, 1493745546, 1016.291, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3502.500, 3442.500, -60.000
HP, 1493745547, 1016.892, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3442.500, 3382.500, -60.000
HP, 1493745547, 1017.026, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3382.500, 3322.500, -60.000
HP, 1493745547, 1017.160, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3322.500, 3262.500, -60.000
HP, 1493745548, 1017.891, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3262.500, 3202.500, -60.000
Thokin 3
HP, 1493745554, 1023.930, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3202.500, 3120.100, -82.400
HP, 1493745554, 1024.096, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3120.100, 3064.100, -56.000
HP, 1493745557, 1027.031, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3064.100, 3008.100, -56.000
HP, 1493745557, 1027.194, 98531D70, 3562.500, 3008.100, 2952.100, -56.000
HP, 1493745558, 1027.446, 98531D70, 3562.500, 2952.100, 2896.100, -56.000
HP, 1493745558, 1027.500, 98531D70, 3562.500, 2896.100, 2840.100, -56.000
HP, 1493745558, 1027.569, 98531D70, 3562.500, 2840.100, 2784.100, -56.000
HP, 1493745558, 1027.700, 98531D70, 3562.500, 2784.100, 2701.700, -82.400
Sandstorm 8
HP, 1493745742, 1212.087, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 3258.500, 3106.500, -152.000
HP, 1493745743, 1212.501, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 3106.500, 2954.500, -152.000
HP, 1493745744, 1213.775, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 2954.500, 2697.200, -257.300
HP, 1493745744, 1214.145, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 2697.200, 2439.900, -257.300
Revenant 1
HP, 1493745746, 1216.291, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 2439.900, 2387.900, -52.000
HP, 1493745747, 1216.396, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 2387.900, 2311.100, -76.800
HP, 1493745747, 1216.597, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 2311.100, 2234.300, -76.800
HP, 1493745747, 1216.697, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 2234.300, 2157.500, -76.800
HP, 1493745747, 1217.164, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 2157.500, 2105.500, -52.000
HP, 1493745748, 1217.883, 9858CE90, 3562.500, 2105.500, 2053.500, -52.000
Halberd 3
HP, 1493745978, 1447.883, 9815D100, 3562.500, 3562.500, 3477.500, -85.000
HP, 1493745978, 1448.213, 9815D100, 3562.500, 3477.500, 3392.500, -85.000
HP, 1493745979, 1448.480, 9815D100, 3562.500, 3392.500, 3307.500, -85.000
HP, 1493745979, 1448.747, 9815D100, 3562.500, 3307.500, 3222.500, -85.000
HP, 1493745980, 1449.380, 9815D100, 3562.500, 3222.500, 3075.750, -146.750
HP, 1493745980, 1449.747, 9815D100, 3562.500, 3075.750, 2929.000, -146.750
Falcon 4
HP, 1493745985, 1454.503, 9815D100, 3562.500, 2495.000, 2094.000, -401.000
HP, 1493745985, 1454.523, 97ACFAC0, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1489.000, -411.000
HP, 1493745986, 1455.755, 9815D100, 3562.500, 2094.000, 2071.000, -23.000
HP, 1493745986, 1455.773, 9815D100, 3562.500, 2071.000, 1670.000, -401.000
HP, 1493745986, 1455.796, 97856400, 1900.000, 1900.000, 1489.000, -411.000
PAW 3
HP, 1493746854, 2324.264, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 3562.500, 3536.500, -26.000
HP, 1493746855, 2324.331, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 3536.500, 3510.500, -26.000
HP, 1493746855, 2324.431, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 3510.500, 3484.500, -26.000
HP, 1493746855, 2324.534, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 3484.500, 3458.500, -26.000
HP, 1493746855, 2325.053, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 3458.500, 3418.100, -40.400
HP, 1493746855, 2325.170, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 3418.100, 3377.700, -40.400
HP, 1493746855, 2325.257, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 3377.700, 3337.300, -40.400
Valkyrie 2
HP, 1493746861, 2330.489, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 2924.501, 2847.501, -77.000
HP, 1493746862, 2332.175, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 2847.501, 2770.501, -77.000
HP, 1493746872, 2341.675, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 2770.501, 2636.951, -133.550
HP, 1493746872, 2341.807, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 2636.951, 2503.401, -133.550
HP, 1493746873, 2342.682, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 2503.401, 2426.401, -77.000
HP, 1493746873, 2342.816, 8E282BF0, 3562.500, 2426.401, 2349.401, -77.000 Don't have the Soned yet, but everything here is normal and there is no bonus to armor. |
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Post by lennybusker on May 2, 2017 23:58:46 GMT
I just remembered something I recorded because it's a funky power/combo interaction. I mean, it's normal for MEA, but it's not what I expected to see. gfycat.com/AmusingAmbitiousBalloonfish 4 hits to the Anarchist - Nova, Charge/Combo, Melee x2. What's weird to me is that I would expect a detonator power to do damage from the power AND from the combo, but it looks there like the second hit is only a single damage tick. I'm going to mess around getting a combat log up tonight, but in the meantime if anyone would like to test that I'd be interested in seeing results. Does anyone recall from ME3MP if both the detonator and combo applied individual damage ticks? |
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Post by capn233 on May 3, 2017 0:21:14 GMT
So I used AutoHotKey a bit with a little script to automate charge length and also one to automate intervals between clicks (use a sleep function).
Still variation though. Thinking this might be from frame times. But I think it will end up being good enough.
Also I tried the omni-blade to see if I could get weakpoint hits. Didn't see a single one against an Assembler, but I think their hitbox sucks anyway.
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Post by capn233 on May 3, 2017 2:32:20 GMT
Zalkin Charge Test
I used a simple script for AutoHotKey to automatically hold the mouse button for a set number of milliseconds. There was some confounding variation though that meant that I ended up with more a distribution of charged shots based on set hold time.
Summary
-Zalkin has uncharged and a single charged state.
-Uncharged state is semi-automatic mode dealing base damage to health and armor.
-Charged state is three round burst mode dealing 1.5x base damage per round.
-Charged state usually reached after holding trigger for >500ms. No uncharged shots observed when set to 525ms, and no charged shots were seen when set to 450ms. Blame my sad computer for frame time variation or input lag or whathaveyou.
-Zalkin has 1.65x weak point multiplier to humanoids.
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Human Infiltrator (no passive)
Zalkin VIII - 79dmg listed, 72 observed
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Assembler (Bronze)
Single Uncharged Shots
At Timediff: 664.593 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.860 Health Damage : 100.800 <-wp
At Timediff: 4.696 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 20.762 Health Damage : 100.800 <-wp
At Timediff: 0.963 Health Damage : 100.800
100.8/72 = 1.4
1.65 base weak point multiplier
Charged (>1s, manual)
At Timediff: 56.010 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.130 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 25.430 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.130 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 29.497 Health Damage : 151.200 <-wp
At Timediff: 0.163 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.132 Health Damage : 108.000
72*X = 108 x=1.5
72*1.4*1.5=151.2
-Zalkin does bonus damage charged, may be 1.5x multiplier
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Click Hold Script Tests v Assembler
450ms
At Timediff: 68.697 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 1.063 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 1.171 Health Damage : 100.800 <-wp
At Timediff: 1.192 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 1.062 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.997 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 2.130 Health Damage : 100.800 <-wp
At Timediff: 0.997 Health Damage : 72.000
-all uncharged shots, 450ms too low
500ms
At Timediff: 148.098 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.133 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.127 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 40.296 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.133 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 3.927 Health Damage : 72.000 <-uncharged single shot
At Timediff: 1.565 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.129 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 108.000
505ms
At Timediff: 60.430 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.132 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.130 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.930 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.130 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.828 Health Damage : 100.800 <-single uncharged wp
At Timediff: 1.366 Health Damage : 72.000 <-single uncharged shot
At Timediff: 1.229 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.129 Health Damage : 108.000
525ms
At Timediff: 64.697 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.129 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.897 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.132 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.129 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.896 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.130 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.933 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.261 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.997 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.132 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.995 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.129 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.130 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.897 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.129 Health Damage : 108.000
-all charged shots
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Nullifier (Bronze)
Uncharged
At Timediff: 53.827 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.794 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 1.427 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.860 Damage : 52.000
Charge >5s
At Timediff: 46.627 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 13.060 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Damage : 88.000
-Simple flat 20 armor DR. Charge multiplier does not magnify.
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Khett Chosen (Tutorial)
Uncharged
At Timediff: 5.295 Damage : 118.800 <-weak point
At Timediff: 0.960 Damage : 118.800
At Timediff: 0.961 Damage : 118.800
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 118.800
At Timediff: 0.694 Damage : 72.000
72*1.65=118.8
500ms Charge
At Timediff: 0.861 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.761 Damage : 72.000 <-single uncharged shot
At Timediff: 1.428 Damage : 178.200 <-charged weak point
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 3.228 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.861 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 1.193 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 47.261 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.162 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.092 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.794 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 1.061 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.894 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.792 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.113 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.827 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.250 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.759 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.160 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.118 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.727 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.120 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.123 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.793 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.093 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.760 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 1.325 Damage : 108.000
72*1.5*1.65=178.2
490ms
At Timediff: 39.694 Damage : 72.000 <-uncharged
At Timediff: 1.062 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.129 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.594 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.129 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 0.995 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 5.793 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.125 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.961 Damage : 72.000 <-uncharged
At Timediff: 1.328 Damage : 118.800 <-uncharged weakpoint
475ms
At Timediff: 55.794 Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.895 Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.847 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.659 Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 1.059 Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 2.327 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.261 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 2.126 Damage : 178.200
At Timediff: 3.559 Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 1.193 Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.962 Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.158 Damage : 108.000
Cloaked, Uncharged
At Timediff: 15.958 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.457 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.192 Health Damage : 72.000
72*(1+0.5)= 108
Cloak, Charged
At Timediff: 30.555 Health Damage : 162.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Health Damage : 162.000
At Timediff: 0.124 Health Damage : 162.000
At Timediff: 48.518 Health Damage : 162.000
At Timediff: 0.124 Health Damage : 162.000
At Timediff: 0.125 Health Damage : 162.000
At Timediff: 21.624 Health Damage : 267.300 <-weak point
At Timediff: 0.158 Health Damage : 162.000
At Timediff: 0.091 Health Damage : 267.300
72*(1+0.5)*X=162 X=1.5
72*(1+0.5)*1.5*1.65=267.3
***
Salarian Infiltrator
TacCloak 6 - 90% weapon
Passive - 8% weapon, Tech Synergy
Kett Chosen (Tutorial)
Uncharged
At Timediff: 6.226 Damage : 77.760
At Timediff: 0.559 Damage : 77.760
At Timediff: 0.625 Damage : 77.760
Charged
At Timediff: 10.361 Damage : 116.640
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 116.640
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 116.640
72*(1+0.08)*1.5= 116.64
Cloaked, Charged
At Timediff: 100.294 Damage : 246.240
At Timediff: 0.125 Damage : 246.240
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 246.240
At Timediff: 7.493 Damage : 246.240
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 246.240
At Timediff: 0.125 Damage : 246.240
72*(1+0.08+0.5+0.4+0.3)*1.5=246.24
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Post by capn233 on May 3, 2017 2:56:04 GMT
Base Cloak Bonus Duration Test - Round 2Summary - Weapon damage bonus duration did not appear to be more than ~500ms, similar to previous test.
-Incinerate will get Cloak 1 bonus for impact and three DOT ticks.
-Incinerate can only get cloak bonus during the 500ms window after stealth is broken, retested in 1.07. Possible to miss window entirely. See here.
-Melee breaking cloak and one additional omni-blade melee received the cloak bonus.
-Only the attack breaking cloak received the bonus from rank 1 Cloak, for a duration consistent with above.
-As Sticky Grenades could not break cloak, they were not observed to benefit from rank 1 Cloak.
AutoHotKey was used in an attempt to generate shots at specific intervals, although the observed spacing was not exactly what was set.
Update 7 May 2017 -Tactical Cloak melee bonus is not applied to aerial / jump melee.
Update 22 May 2017 - Incinerate no longer has 3 tick bonus duration under base cloak. Tested in 1.07.
***
Human Infiltrator (no passive)
Sticky Grenades 1
Cloak 1
Incinerate 1
Predator X vs Assembler (Bronze)
Cloak, Shot, 500ms, Shot
At Timediff: 16.930 Health Damage : 108.000 <-cloak bonus
At Timediff: 0.533 Health Damage : 72.000 <-standard body shot
At Timediff: 11.194 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 151.200 <-cloak bonus weak point
At Timediff: 15.865 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.564 Health Damage : 100.800 <-standard weak point
72*(1+0.5)=108
72*(1+0.5)*1.4=151.2
72*1.4=100.8
-second shot at >500ms gives no bonus
--
Cloak, Shot, 1500ms, Shot
At Timediff: 70.129 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 1.530 Health Damage : 72.000 <-standard shot
--
Cloak, Shot, 450ms, Shot
At Timediff: 10.761 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.464 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 4.132 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.463 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 10.297 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.463 Health Damage : 108.000
-second shot all <500ms, all get bonus
**
Cloak, Incinerate 1, Predator X
At Timediff: 44.327 Health Damage : 180.000 <-Incinerate impact w/ cloak bonus
At Timediff: 0.164 Health Damage : 72.000 <-normal Predator shot
At Timediff: 0.227 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.097 Health Damage : 37.500 <-Incinerate DOT tick w/ cloak bonus
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000 <-normal Incinerate DOT tick
At Timediff: 0.498 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.495 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.495 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.502 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 32.392 Health Damage : 180.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.164 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.164 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.163 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.004 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.157 Health Damage : 100.800 <-normal Predator weak point
At Timediff: 0.131 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.196 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 18.430 Health Damage : 180.000
At Timediff: 0.196 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.129 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.130 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.030 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.092 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.395 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.495 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.495 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.506 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.485 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.495 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.494 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.495 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.495 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.494 Health Damage : 25.000
120*(1+0.5)=180
25*(1+0.5)=37.5
-If breaking Cloak 1 with Incinerate, Incinerate gets bonus to impact and several ticks, but Predator does not receive any bonus, even if it is <500ms since cloak broken
***
Cloak, Predator, Incinerate
At Timediff: 14.196 Health Damage : 151.200 <-cloak Predator weak point
At Timediff: 0.631 Health Damage : 120.000 <-normal Incinerate impact
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 25.000 <-normal Incinerate DOT
At Timediff: 0.064 Health Damage : 72.000 <-normal Predator shot
At Timediff: 0.230 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.164 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.029 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.097 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.397 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.500 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.497 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.496 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.501 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 25.191 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.361 Health Damage : 120.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.094 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.188 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.124 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.065 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.056 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.162 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.158 Health Damage : 72.000
At Timediff: 0.093 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.494 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.495 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.492 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
-Incinerate after breaking cloak with weapon does not get bonus.
***
Cloak, Predator, Melee
At Timediff: 10.194 Health Damage : 151.200
At Timediff: 0.528 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 53.927 Health Damage : 108.000
At Timediff: 0.461 Health Damage : 275.000
-Melee does not get cloak bonus after breaking with weapon
***
Cloak, Incinerate, Melee
At Timediff: 16.561 Health Damage : 180.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.160 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.326 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.494 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.494 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.494 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 20.828 Health Damage : 180.000
At Timediff: 0.492 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.161 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.326 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 37.500
At Timediff: 0.494 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.500 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.485 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.491 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.492 Health Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.493 Health Damage : 25.000
-Animation lengths may be issue, but no bonus to melee after breaking cloak with Incinerate
***
Sticky Grenade v Nullifier (Bronze)
At Timediff: 53.660 Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 1.493 Damage : 1100.000
--
Cloak, Sticky, No other input
At Timediff: 28.960 Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 1.494 Damage : 1100.000
--
Cloak, Sticky, Predator
At Timediff: 36.561 Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 1.257 Damage : 88.000 <-cloak bonus Predator
At Timediff: 0.226 Damage : 1100.000 <-no bonus Sticky detonation
At Timediff: 0.062 Damage : 52.000 <-no cloak bonus Predator
At Timediff: 0.326 Damage : 80.800 <-no cloak bonus Predator weak point
At Timediff: 37.227 Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.660 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.127 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.114 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.160 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.121 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.160 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.092 Damage : 1100.000
At Timediff: 0.026 Damage : 80.800
At Timediff: 0.160 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 37.293 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.227 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.294 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.160 Damage : 974.884 <-stuck to shield, AOE
At Timediff: 0.004 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.143 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.161 Damage : 80.800
At Timediff: 48.760 Damage : 25.000
At Timediff: 0.660 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.128 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.123 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.148 Damage : 88.000
At Timediff: 0.126 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.161 Damage : 52.000
At Timediff: 0.092 Damage : 1100.000
At Timediff: 0.027 Damage : 52.000
974.884/1100=0.886 Aoe multiplier from Nullifier shield to body?
***
Cloak, Melee vs Assembler (Bronze)
At Timediff: 2.321 Health Damage : 440.000 <-cloak bonus
At Timediff: 1.260 Health Damage : 440.000
At Timediff: 1.296 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 7.296 Health Damage : 440.000
At Timediff: 1.097 Health Damage : 440.000
At Timediff: 1.031 Health Damage : 275.000
275*(1+0.6)=440
--
Cloak, Jump Melee
HP, 1494130656, 73.522, 8B4EEB00, 825.000, 825.000, 696.795, -128.205
HP, 1494130656, 73.531, 8B4EEB00, 825.000, 825.000, 568.205, -256.795
HP, 1494130667, 84.989, 8B4EEB00, 825.000, 825.000, 696.795, -128.205
HP, 1494130667, 84.994, 8D9AAEC0, 825.000, 825.000, 568.205, -256.795
HP, 1494130667, 85.000, 8B4EEB00, 825.000, 825.000, 568.205, -256.795
HP, 1494130667, 85.005, 9B292110, 825.000, 825.000, 568.205, -256.795
128.205+256.795=385
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Post by capn233 on May 3, 2017 3:06:22 GMT
Omni-Blade Weakpoint Test AttemptGoing to keep this short and to the point: I did not observe any weak point bonus with the omni-blade on the Human Infiltrator. It was hard to aim for weak points due to the way the swing goes, but no bonus damage appeared. Tested against the bronze Assembler, Nullifier, and tutorial Khett chosen. It is of course possible I somehow managed to miss every time, but I was able to repeat the Nullifier hit fairly easily with the Cryo Gauntlet, and I was pretty confident I was landing hits in the area for this test. Not going to be too upset if someone else finds a bonus. Will go ahead and spoiler this, as what you will see is just the number 275 repeated many times... Omni-Blade v Assembler (Bronze)
At Timediff: 11.897 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.698 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.163 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.197 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 4.766 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 7.729 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.163 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.228 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.997 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.064 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.298 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.362 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.963 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.265 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.161 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.095 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 5.663 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.596 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.321 Health Damage : 440.000 <-cloak bonus
At Timediff: 1.260 Health Damage : 440.000
At Timediff: 1.296 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 16.565 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.162 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.996 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.899 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.693 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.163 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.528 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.129 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.096 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 3.228 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.929 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.529 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.062 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.195 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.630 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 5.061 Health Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 7.296 Health Damage : 440.000
At Timediff: 1.097 Health Damage : 440.000
At Timediff: 1.031 Health Damage : 275.000
275*(1+0.6)=440
-No weak point hits observed vs Assembler
---
Omni v Nullifier (Bronze)
At Timediff: 17.694 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.727 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.195 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.227 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.093 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 4.694 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.227 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.228 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.159 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.694 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.693 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.227 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.094 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.259 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.264 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.382 Damage : 275.000
---
Omni v Kett Chosen (Tutorial)
At Timediff: 26.728 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.629 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.648 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.294 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.762 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.028 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.894 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.330 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.227 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.128 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.594 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.262 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.428 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.360 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 28.694 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.128 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.760 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 4.393 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.328 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.361 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.361 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.427 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.494 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 20.027 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.095 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.797 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.194 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.427 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.127 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.794 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.194 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.395 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.161 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.161 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.161 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.095 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.130 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.024 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.128 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.127 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.094 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.161 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.161 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.161 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 2.194 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.461 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.294 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.260 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.364 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 23.522 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.292 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.127 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.126 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 0.960 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.060 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.426 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.159 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.331 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.055 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.360 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.294 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.258 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.259 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.930 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.524 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.286 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.619 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.461 Damage : 275.000
At Timediff: 1.558 Damage : 275.000
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Post by JRandall0308 on May 3, 2017 3:11:32 GMT
Does the Zalkin's bonus weak point damage apply from game enemies to players?
Do players even have weak points?
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Post by peddroelm on May 3, 2017 4:24:31 GMT
vs tutorial Chosen
lance 1 320 // no HeadShot
lance 1 320 * 1.4 = 448 //headshot
Based on this I rewrote the headshot bonus on the weapon formula as 1.4 base headshot bonus and some weapons and enemy types get bonuses or penalties to that.
Throw 1 vs health 50 impact damage + extra 250 when thrown target hits environment
HP, 1493784312, -50.000
HP, 1493784313, -250.000
HP, 1493784326, -50.000
HP, 1493784327, -250.000
Annihilation 1 55 DPS *1 vs health
HP, 497.641, -27.500 // 55/2 anni DOT *1 vs health
HP, 498.141, -27.500
HP, 498.641, -27.500
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Post by hardcoresalmon on May 3, 2017 4:29:47 GMT
Does the Zalkin's bonus weak point damage apply from game enemies to players? Do players even have weak points? I imagine it would be almost impossible to balance enemy damage that way, I would be extremely suprised if we did. |
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Post by peddroelm on May 3, 2017 4:44:12 GMT
could be calculated off base weapon damage. need to compare 3.125 * 2 * 5 = 31.25 with the carniflex's base damage .. (what level carniflex was used in test ? other damage bonuses ?) What is listed on the ammo's card ? Then fire two bullets and see if the DOT total damage matches .. carniflex X's base damage is 220 so incendiary did provide the 2.5% additive damage bosus 220 * (1 + 0.025) = 225.5 Always be weary of Weapon I and Weapon X base damage not being an integer (to my recollection, they never did that ) |
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Post by peddroelm on May 3, 2017 6:29:27 GMT
COMBO DAMAGE APPLIED BEFORE DETONATOR DAMAGE:
asari adept powers lvl 1
1250.094, Chosen health 27.500 // annihilation DOT tick
1250.161, Chosen health 262.500 // COMBO anni 1 + Throw 1
1250.167, Chosen health 50.000 // throw impact
1250.439, Chosen health 250.000 // thrown target hitting environment
2216.111, Chosen health 27.500 // annihilation DOT tick
2216.543, Chosen health 350.000 // COMBO anni 1 + Lance 1
2216.552, Chosen health 448.000 // lance headshot 320 * 1.4
why anni + Throw Kaboomed for less than anni + lance ???
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Post by bjorndadwarf on May 3, 2017 6:35:19 GMT
Something to keep an eye out for when getting around to shotguns and/or Talon, I'm not sure that they bypass shieldgate anymore (at least on Gold). Played several rounds with the Talon tonight, and multiple times on Sharpshooters I broke shield with a shot, and saw no damage pass through, even with very few shields left before hitting. I haven't payed a lot of attention with shotguns to see if they do or not.
It's always possible that I was missing with a few pellets or something, but given the generally poor performance of shotguns, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they took that advantage way from them.
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Post by hardcoresalmon on May 3, 2017 6:39:37 GMT
carniflex X's base damage is 220 so incendiary did provide the 2.5% additive damage bosus 220 * (1 + 0.025) = 225.5 Always be weary of Weapon I and Weapon X base damage not being an integer (to my recollection, they never did that ) Ah I got the number wrong. I'd like to test more ammo mechanics, such as if stacking will increase will different levels of ammo but it requires a lot of rng to get ammo in this game. I'll test ammo more when I have a lot more spare. I'll try and test the rest of the weapons against armor later. |
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