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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 10, 2017 20:07:44 GMT
Somehow....someway.....you will blame Mac Walters for this. On a project he doesn't even work on? You're just wildly off the mark about me and clearly don't understand how/why I keep accusing Mac of destroying Mass Effect in the first place.
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Post by trashcancat on Apr 10, 2017 20:08:07 GMT
Okay, bye.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2017 20:53:59 GMT
I've read this on NeoGAF, and they've closed the topic because Robertson's rumors are very hit or miss. And I think there's two very conflicting rumors going on. I think MMO (even MMO-lite) and fixed protagonist don't mix at all. It would be very weird for Bioware to let us create our own characters in all of their single-player games, but when it's multiplayer they give us a fixed protagonist... :P Also, there's rumors by the same guy of a KOTOR remake/revival by Bioware Austin going on. Fuck yeah! You just made me hopeful that they will repackage SWTOR as an SP campaign condensing some of the later parts. I would not mind a completely new game, but it always bothered me that the magnificence and magnitude of SWTOR never really got presented in a more palatable format than a monthly sub. Whatever they do, I am eagerly awaiting news. Yep, even about DA4.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 10, 2017 22:16:11 GMT
I've read this on NeoGAF, and they've closed the topic because Robertson's rumors are very hit or miss. And I think there's two very conflicting rumors going on. I think MMO (even MMO-lite) and fixed protagonist don't mix at all. It would be very weird for Bioware to let us create our own characters in all of their single-player games, but when it's multiplayer they give us a fixed protagonist... Also, there's rumors by the same guy of a KOTOR remake/revival by Bioware Austin going on. Fuck yeah! You just made me hopeful that they will repackage SWTOR as an SP campaign condensing some of the later parts. I would not mind a completely new game, but it always bothered me that the magnificence and magnitude of SWTOR never really got presented in a more palatable format than a monthly sub. Whatever they do, I am eagerly awaiting news. Yep, even about DA4. If it's the same rumor this site is talking about. wwg.com/2017/04/10/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-getting-rebooted/It sounds like a Kotor reboot rather than SWTOR.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 11, 2017 0:27:59 GMT
This image we've seen before also lends weight to it being a sci-fi, Destiny-style game... i.imgur.com/1f3fBPV.pngIf that's true, it doesn't really sound like it's for me, but I'm still curious to see what they'll cook up.
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Post by LFS on Apr 11, 2017 0:52:38 GMT
^^ Are we sure that's anything Secret IP related, though? It's fuzzy but it looks like it could be an early Kett model, considering the woman is def. Cora's concept art.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 11, 2017 1:20:03 GMT
^^ Are we sure that's anything Secret IP related, though? It's fuzzy but it looks like it could be an early Kett model, considering the woman is def. Cora's concept art. The Dev who posted that was very coy when asked what franchise that was. If it was MEA-related, there would have been no reason to hide that fact. I feel it's a pretty safe bet at this point it's from the Secret IP.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 11, 2017 1:23:32 GMT
^^ Are we sure that's anything Secret IP related, though? It's fuzzy but it looks like it could be an early Kett model, considering the woman is def. Cora's concept art. The Dev who posted that was very coy when asked what franchise that was. If it was MEA-related, there would have been no reason to hide that fact. I feel it's a pretty safe bet at this point it's from the Secret IP. Well that weapon certainly looks nothing like I've seen in MEA. It's oversized as heck. It may be an early concept though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 3:06:28 GMT
You just made me hopeful that they will repackage SWTOR as an SP campaign condensing some of the later parts. I would not mind a completely new game, but it always bothered me that the magnificence and magnitude of SWTOR never really got presented in a more palatable format than a monthly sub. Whatever they do, I am eagerly awaiting news. Yep, even about DA4. If it's the same rumor this site is talking about. wwg.com/2017/04/10/star-wars-knights-of-the-old-republic-getting-rebooted/It sounds like a Kotor reboot rather than SWTOR. Oh, sounds like what they did with BGEE maybe. Well, we'll see. I am not keen on more Revan though. I've had enough of it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 3:08:06 GMT
^^ Are we sure that's anything Secret IP related, though? It's fuzzy but it looks like it could be an early Kett model, considering the woman is def. Cora's concept art. That's what I always thought, but folks already covered it, so okay, scifi probably....
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Post by linksocarina on Apr 11, 2017 4:00:32 GMT
I've read this on NeoGAF, and they've closed the topic because Robertson's rumors are very hit or miss. And I think there's two very conflicting rumors going on. I think MMO (even MMO-lite) and fixed protagonist don't mix at all. It would be very weird for Bioware to let us create our own characters in all of their single-player games, but when it's multiplayer they give us a fixed protagonist... Also, there's rumors by the same guy of a KOTOR remake/revival by Bioware Austin going on. Fuck yeah! Truth be told, Robertson is usually a reliable source. This one is up in the air though, seems plausible. Guess we shall find out in a few months...E3 is just around the corner.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 11, 2017 5:25:42 GMT
Oh, sounds like what they did with BGEE maybe. Well, we'll see. I am not keen on more Revan though. I've had enough of it. It sounds like a bit more than that, like a total reimagining rather than what amounts to a rerelease, going by that article.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 8:21:30 GMT
Just a question, did they already mention if it will be a third or first person type of game ?
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 11, 2017 12:57:34 GMT
Just a question, did they already mention if it will be a third or first person type of game ? Not to my knowledge, although I would bet third person.
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Post by trashcancat on Apr 11, 2017 13:26:24 GMT
This looks a LOT like ME designs. They wouldnt rip off their own work like that now would they :/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:24:06 GMT
Oh, sounds like what they did with BGEE maybe. Well, we'll see. I am not keen on more Revan though. I've had enough of it. It sounds like a bit more than that, like a total reimagining rather than what amounts to a rerelease, going by that article. If it's not a Revan's story, I will try it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:33:22 GMT
Thanks for debunking the rumor! Now, I will need to look up what kind of a beast Destiny is. Bio will probably change it regardless.
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Post by LFS on Apr 11, 2017 19:41:00 GMT
"Sure, I was talking out of my ass, but in my defense, I didn't expect anyone to listen." -- Liam Robertson.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 11, 2017 19:44:35 GMT
That much I can believe, though I'm less sure of the details. Wasn't there a tweet from some designer saying that she finally understood what the code name of the new IP was a reference too? That would indicate that it isn't the name of the protagonist or anything that obvious. I'm still picturing a cross between Destiny and SWTOR, my reasoning being that EA knows that companions and story are the main draw of Bioware games rather than mechanics for the most part and they want to bolt that element onto what people liked about Destiny and the Division to try and address the shortcomings of those games (And thus beat the competition). That much hasn't changed with the new information.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:47:27 GMT
I've skimmed through Wiki about Destiny.
1st person is a deal breaker for me, I can't really play without seeing my character on the screen. The 1st person interfaces always look like a cage to me or a monitor within my monitor.
The other thing that they could not keep up with the MP demand for PvE/PvP content in SWTOR, not even closely, not ever, and changed it to basically SP game for a single protagonist. Why are they going for the model that can only survive on the frequent pumping out of group content? Their PvE suffered from being overly artistic and too intricately over-designed compared to the many, many, many crappy MP dungeons in one other MMO I've tried.
So, I am curious to see E3.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 11, 2017 19:53:34 GMT
That much I can believe, though I'm less sure of the details. Wasn't there a tweet from some designer saying that she finally understood what the code name of the new IP was a reference too? That would indicate that it isn't the name of the protagonist or anything that obvious. She didn't mention anything about the project she was on being Secret IP. And considering that it was the same dev that mentioned being hyped after with Patrick Weekes' presentation, it's safe to assume she is on Dragon Age team - not secret IP.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 11, 2017 19:55:45 GMT
I've skimmed through Wiki about Destiny. 1st person is a deal breaker for me, I can't really play without seeing my character on the screen. The 1st person interfaces always look like a cage to me or a monitor within my monitor. The other thing that they could not keep up with the MP demand for PvE/PvP content in SWTOR, not even closely, not ever, and changed it to basically SP game for a single protagonist. Why are they going for the model that can only survive on the frequent pumping out of group content? Their PvE suffered from being overly artistic and too intricately over-designed compared to the many, many, many crappy MP dungeons in one other MMO I've tried. So, I am curious to see E3. The Division was third person, so it's not like this model requires first person perspective. I imagine Bioware would stick with what they know on that front. (Destiny was also third person in hubs, so there's that) It looks like they're trying to front load it with a lot of content out the gate according to Robertson, so we'll have to wait and see how their content plans stack up. Hopefully Bioware will put in enough dialogue and story branches that the SP parts have replayability.
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Post by Heimdall on Apr 11, 2017 19:58:19 GMT
That much I can believe, though I'm less sure of the details. Wasn't there a tweet from some designer saying that she finally understood what the code name of the new IP was a reference too? That would indicate that it isn't the name of the protagonist or anything that obvious. She didn't mention anything about the project she was on being Secret IP. And considering that it was the same dev that mentioned being hyped after with Patrick Weekes' presentation, it's safe to assume she is on Dragon Age team - not secret IP. Hm, I didn't remember the specific context. It's possible Patrick could have been giving a non-DA related presentation about writing or something, but never mind.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 11, 2017 20:06:03 GMT
She didn't mention anything about the project she was on being Secret IP. And considering that it was the same dev that mentioned being hyped after with Patrick Weekes' presentation, it's safe to assume she is on Dragon Age team - not secret IP. Hm, I didn't remember the specific context. It's possible Patrick could have been giving a non-DA related presentation about writing or something, but never mind. If it was a non-DA related presentation, I don't think the dev would be writing about being hyped (instead of experiencing whiplash) for the new project she's on
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