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Post by Moleman on Apr 28, 2017 16:53:30 GMT
At the end of the game you get to pick the Andromeda Initiative ambassador to the new Heleus Council.
I was very tempted to go Morda but frankly I thought I gave enough strength to the krogan what with the whole super advanced dreadnaught core used to power lightbulbs. In the end I picked the Prodromos leader. My problem came when talking to the Moshae afterward. She was very... confrontational/upset that I didn't choose her. Why would I choose her to be the Initiative's ambassador? She doesn't know us, she didn't come with us from the MW. Sure she's an ally, but she's not Initiative.
Did i misunderstand something? Was the chosen ambassador meant to represent something else?
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Post by feuerrabe on Apr 28, 2017 17:33:23 GMT
I was torn between him and the salarian pathfinder and the mayor of Prodomos for similar reasons. Morda and the Moshae aren't really initiative (anymore). Ultimately I chose Bradley because the needs of the colonies (including the one on Eladaan, which is of course tied to the Krogan) should come first.
I might have been tempted to pick an Asari, but I couldn't think of which. Maybe the ambassedor on Aya.
However, I doubt the decision will go quite as deep as the decision as to whether or not you save the council in Mass Effect, probably something that can be fixed, even if it turns out to be less than ideal.
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Post by Deana on Apr 29, 2017 2:45:13 GMT
I chose Raeka and the moshae was like, great another one of you. Hello I rescued you and defeated the archon. What is this woman's problem?
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 29, 2017 5:13:04 GMT
It's actually the Meridian ambassador to the Nexus that we're choosing.
I choose Moshae Sjefa. She has experience, and her appointment officially recognizes the fact that the angara have a legitimate voice and claim on Meridian. I think Raeka sounded like a good option, but she was dead in my PTs. Plus, she's too talented a field agent and scientist to be forced into a diplomatic role. The rest just didn't wow me with their background and credentials. Bradley could get it done, if there weren't better options. I prefer to leave the military man on Eos, where he'll do the most good.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 29, 2017 12:43:18 GMT
Did i misunderstand something? Was the chosen ambassador meant to represent something else? Explanation for the whole thing was kinda confusing, I got lost at first too. You are supposedly choose who's gonna represent people of Heleus cluster on Nexus, i.e. both Initiative and angara colonies.
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Post by toomanyclouds on Apr 29, 2017 13:00:24 GMT
I chose Raeka and the moshae was like, great another one of you. Hello I rescued you and defeated the archon. What is this woman's problem? Her problem is that she fears you're just a nicer looking version of the kett, settling planets the angara have a historical footholds on and eventually pushing them out of the galaxy that is their home or at least making them a subservient species. I assume she's well-aware she's reliant on your good-will because let's be honest, the angara were what, 10, 15 years away from a total defeat by the kett? Evfra's new Resistance bought them a bit of time, but that was a losing battle. Sloane also helped the angara on Kadara with the kett first before she implemented her regime and threw the angara who couldn't pay protection fees out into the badlands. Pathfinder could be the same on a bigger scale. Honestly, I yearned for renegade interrupts with the Moshae a few times, especially during the kett facility mission (something along the lines of "okay, if you don't like my way of doing things, let's see your guys do it on their own, that was working out great"). However, I do understand where she's coming from here.
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Post by feuerrabe on Apr 29, 2017 15:03:26 GMT
Did i misunderstand something? Was the chosen ambassador meant to represent something else? Explanation for the whole thing was kinda confusing, I got lost at first too. You are supposedly choose who's gonna represent people of Heleus cluster on Nexus, i.e. both Initiative and angara colonies. The entire context was a bit curious. You come straight from the mission, wake up, have no idea what happened to the Archon after he disconnected and what's with the ship (i.e. the Hyperion) now and they hit you like this: Oh, hey Ryder. "We plan to establish another council some time in the future and even though it doesn't exist yet we spare us the trouble to pick councilors and go through elections or crap like this... so in short who is the interim ruler of the galaxy?" The answer I'd have given, given the choice would have been: "Coffee. I need coffee!" It doesn't make a lot of sense that someone was capable of representing all the people. To my best knowledge the angara never agreed to anything like this and they weren't part of the task force that hit me with this request. As far as I am concerned this has nothing to do with the angara. If they want to dispatch a councilor to any council that the initiative creates, that is their choice and it is also their choice who that will be. To assume jurisdiction over the angara by any council that the initiative created is a mistake. I am not "assuming direct control" over the angara. And that is part of the reason why the Moshae was not an option. Picking an angara implies that the council has power over them.
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Post by Ahriman on Apr 29, 2017 15:28:24 GMT
Explanation for the whole thing was kinda confusing, I got lost at first too. You are supposedly choose who's gonna represent people of Heleus cluster on Nexus, i.e. both Initiative and angara colonies. The entire context was a bit curious. You come straight from the mission, wake up, have no idea what happened to the Archon after he disconnected and what's with the ship (i.e. the Hyperion) now and they hit you like this: Oh, hey Ryder. "We plan to establish another council some time in the future and even though it doesn't exist yet we spare as the trouble to pick councilors and go through elections or crap like this... so in short who is the interim ruler of the galaxy?" The answer I'd have given, given the choice would have been: "Coffee. I need coffee!" It doesn't make a lot of sense that someone was capable of representing all the people. To my best knowledge the angara never agreed to anything like this and they weren't part of the task force that hit me with this request. As far as I am concerned this has nothing to do with the angara. If they want to dispatch a councilor to any council that the initiative creates, that is their choice and it is also their choice who that will be. To assume jurisdiction over the angara by any council that the initiative created is a mistake. I am not "assuming direct control" over the angara. And that is part of the reason why the Moshae was not an option. Picking an angara implies that the council has power over them. Well, yeah, it seemed like choice for the sake of choice to me. Almost as awkward as picking new Council as Shepard in ME1.
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Post by Element Zero on Apr 29, 2017 17:37:53 GMT
Explanation for the whole thing was kinda confusing, I got lost at first too. You are supposedly choose who's gonna represent people of Heleus cluster on Nexus, i.e. both Initiative and angara colonies. The entire context was a bit curious. You come straight from the mission, wake up, have no idea what happened to the Archon after he disconnected and what's with the ship (i.e. the Hyperion) now and they hit you like this: Oh, hey Ryder. "We plan to establish another council some time in the future and even though it doesn't exist yet we spare us the trouble to pick councilors and go through elections or crap like this... so in short who is the interim ruler of the galaxy?" The answer I'd have given, given the choice would have been: "Coffee. I need coffee!" It doesn't make a lot of sense that someone was capable of representing all the people. To my best knowledge the angara never agreed to anything like this and they weren't part of the task force that hit me with this request. As far as I am concerned this has nothing to do with the angara. If they want to dispatch a councilor to any council that the initiative creates, that is their choice and it is also their choice who that will be. To assume jurisdiction over the angara by any council that the initiative created is a mistake. I am not "assuming direct control" over the angara. And that is part of the reason why the Moshae was not an option. Picking an angara implies that the council has power over them. I agree that it's framed poorly, but the angara aren't strong-armed into this. Presumably, they've been part of the discussion, in some way. Also, the dialogue specifically says that Moshae Sjefa will be asked to take on the position. It even says that she may not wish to do so, given her age, health and entitlement to some well earned rest. We aren't "assuming direct control", though I enjoy the reference. The scene was definitely awkwardly presented. It was every bit as hard to keep up with as Ryder presumably would've found it. Wake me up, start prattling in concert, and ask me to make an important decision? Time-out.
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Post by duskwanderer on Apr 29, 2017 23:21:34 GMT
I don't understand why the Moshae is upset. Personally, I think picking her is sublimely arrogant. She belongs to the angara, not to the Initiative. The angaran should be chosen by their people. They would know who is the best for a diplomatic role. Plus, I don't know if she'd be any good at politics. She's a leader, her people look to her, but that's just symbolism. She's a historian and scholar on the Jaardan, not a diplomat.
Raeka/Hayjer, honestly, have too important a job to do. There are still worlds to explore, we still need a suitable dextro world for the turians, and scouting to find more kett is important. I'm going to put them there, they'd got better stuff to do.
Morda is probably the worst choice I could conceive of. She has no loyalty to anyone who isn't krogan. The new galaxy has no time for her racism. Yeah, I said it. I wish we could do that to her.
Bradley is really the only choice. He's done a decent enough job as mayor, after all.
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Post by gplayer on Apr 30, 2017 9:11:43 GMT
This is another Anderson/Udina choice. Its not really important who you pick which is I troll everyone by picking Morda every time
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Post by garrusfan1 on May 1, 2017 2:43:15 GMT
This is another Anderson/Udina choice. Its not really important who you pick which is I troll everyone by picking Morda every time I love how tann flips out.
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Post by Element Zero on May 1, 2017 4:44:35 GMT
This is another Anderson/Udina choice. Its not really important who you pick which is I troll everyone by picking Morda every time I never pick her, but I like going through the motions of considering her. Just mentioning her name freaks out Tann. Even Kesh is opposed. It's funny enough to be a must have conversation. It's like we get to troll them for dragging us into a sudden, poorly setup decision point.
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Post by reapermac on May 1, 2017 5:50:54 GMT
This is another Anderson/Udina choice. Its not really important who you pick which is I troll everyone by picking Morda every time I'm a little disappointed that when I chose Morda (just to see how the conversation with her goes after hearing the news) that there is no dialogue at all and she just grunts angrily when you go to talk to her.
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Post by toomanyclouds on May 1, 2017 20:15:39 GMT
It's actually the Meridian ambassador to the Nexus that we're choosing. I choose Moshae Sjefa. She has experience, and her appointment officially recognizes the fact that the angara have a legitimate voice and claim on Meridian. I think Raeka sounded like a good option, but she was dead in my PTs. Plus, she's too talented a field agent and scientist to be forced into a diplomatic role. The rest just didn't wow me with their background and credentials. Bradley could get it done, if there weren't better options. I prefer to leave the military man on Eos, where he'll do the most good. I think you've understood this whole scene a lot better than me, could you maybe elaborate? I'm still kind of confused. Tann says it's "an interim ambassador to represent concerns outside the Nexus." So they are an ambassador of everyone to everyone but the angara? And does "outside the Nexus" mean everything physically outside the Nexus structure, or just the angara plus the "rogue" colonies (Kadara and Elaadan), so politically outside the Nexus? I got the general importance of the tone of the choice, but I have to admit I still find it somewhat nebulous who this ambassador represents (I doubt Aya, Kadara, Elaadan and Eos have enough concurring opinions to get one ambassador), who they represent them to (I think the Nexus leaders), and where they would even be stationed (probably on the Nexus, but I haven't found an office). Since all of the present Milky Way races already have a spot in Nexus rulership, it seems immediately more sensible to me to just ask the angara for an interim council member of their choice if that's the case. Everyone else's concerns will probably be brought up by the respective member of their species, as they were during the game (although Kandros is a bit less political than the rest).
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Post by wright1978 on May 1, 2017 20:34:46 GMT
Given it's a temporary appointment, I went for the moshae as it seemed a diplomatic option which accounted for sensitivities of the angarans.
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Post by kenshen19 on May 1, 2017 20:46:15 GMT
I first went with Moshae but on my second time through I picked Morda just for the final middle finger to Tann and all of the other Krogan haters on the Nexus.
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 2, 2017 0:24:13 GMT
The Moshae makes the most sense to me - the angara are Heleus natives, asking the Moshae, one of their leaders (in practice, even if not necessarily by title), to represent Meridian, which is the heart of the Vault system in the cluster, meaning being potentially capable of manipulating livability on worlds throughout the cluster, is saying to the angara that the Andromeda Initiative is NOT going to be a bunch of "colonial wads" out to take over the cluster but intend to work with and alongside the angara. A show of good faith, something I think both sides need, given that the kett are still out there.
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Post by Element Zero on May 2, 2017 1:05:54 GMT
It's actually the Meridian ambassador to the Nexus that we're choosing. I choose Moshae Sjefa. She has experience, and her appointment officially recognizes the fact that the angara have a legitimate voice and claim on Meridian. I think Raeka sounded like a good option, but she was dead in my PTs. Plus, she's too talented a field agent and scientist to be forced into a diplomatic role. The rest just didn't wow me with their background and credentials. Bradley could get it done, if there weren't better options. I prefer to leave the military man on Eos, where he'll do the most good. I think you've understood this whole scene a lot better than me, could you maybe elaborate? I'm still kind of confused. Tann says it's "an interim ambassador to represent concerns outside the Nexus." So they are an ambassador of everyone to everyone but the angara? And does "outside the Nexus" mean everything physically outside the Nexus structure, or just the angara plus the "rogue" colonies (Kadara and Elaadan), so politically outside the Nexus? I got the general importance of the tone of the choice, but I have to admit I still find it somewhat nebulous who this ambassador represents (I doubt Aya, Kadara, Elaadan and Eos have enough concurring opinions to get one ambassador), who they represent them to (I think the Nexus leaders), and where they would even be stationed (probably on the Nexus, but I haven't found an office). Since all of the present Milky Way races already have a spot in Nexus rulership, it seems immediately more sensible to me to just ask the angara for an interim council member of their choice if that's the case. Everyone else's concerns will probably be brought up by the respective member of their species, as they were during the game (although Kandros is a bit less political than the rest). We had established outposts with Prodromos, Ditaeon and whatever it is on Voeld. We hadn't established anything like Meridian, though. It was an instant and permanent home for humanity. (Hyperion crashed there, and will never "fly" again.) The angara also have a claim on Meridian, since it was "made for them", indirectly (or at least with their worlds in mind); and because they helped reclaim it. There's no way the angara would willingly let Meridian slip away. Given the size, population, permanence and significance of Meridian, it was decided that the first steps toward an Andromeda Council would be taken. An ambassador, representing Meridian, would be the first such appointment. Presumably, other ambassadors will follow; and a governing Council will be established. So, it's not that the Meridian ambassador represents everyone outside of the Nexus. This ambassador is simply the first such appointment. He or she represents all of Meridian's people, who will be predominately human, at first. There are also angara and Nexus personnel in smaller numbers. Ideally, the angara would eventually join the "Nexus Council" government. This is one reason I am okay with appointing Moshae Sjefa. She's qualified, there are angara on Meridian, and it's a nice step in solidifying our ties with the angara. We just killed the Archon and obtained Meridian. It's a good time to include them in our victory and formalize ties.
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Post by colfoley on May 2, 2017 1:29:46 GMT
I think you've understood this whole scene a lot better than me, could you maybe elaborate? I'm still kind of confused. Tann says it's "an interim ambassador to represent concerns outside the Nexus." So they are an ambassador of everyone to everyone but the angara? And does "outside the Nexus" mean everything physically outside the Nexus structure, or just the angara plus the "rogue" colonies (Kadara and Elaadan), so politically outside the Nexus? I got the general importance of the tone of the choice, but I have to admit I still find it somewhat nebulous who this ambassador represents (I doubt Aya, Kadara, Elaadan and Eos have enough concurring opinions to get one ambassador), who they represent them to (I think the Nexus leaders), and where they would even be stationed (probably on the Nexus, but I haven't found an office). Since all of the present Milky Way races already have a spot in Nexus rulership, it seems immediately more sensible to me to just ask the angara for an interim council member of their choice if that's the case. Everyone else's concerns will probably be brought up by the respective member of their species, as they were during the game (although Kandros is a bit less political than the rest). We had established outposts with Prodromos, Ditaeon and whatever it is on Voeld. We hadn't established anything like Meridian, though. It was an instant and permanent home for humanity. (Hyperion crashed there, and will never "fly" again.) The angara also have a claim on Meridian, since it was "made for them", indirectly (or at least with their worlds in mind); and because they helped reclaim it. There's no way the angara would willingly let Meridian slip away. Given the size, population, permanence and significance of Meridian, it was decided that the first steps toward an Andromeda Council would be taken. An ambassador, representing Meridian, would be the first such appointment. Presumably, other ambassadors will follow; and a governing Council will be established. So, it's not that the Meridian ambassador represents everyone outside of the Nexus. This ambassador is simply the first such appointment. He or she represents all of Meridian's people, who will be predominately human, at first. There are also angara and Nexus personnel in smaller numbers. Ideally, the angara would eventually join the "Nexus Council" government. This is one reason I am okay with appointing Moshae Sjefa. She's qualified, there are angara on Meridian, and it's a nice step in solidifying our ties with the angara. We just killed the Archon and obtained Meridian. It's a good time to include them in our victory and formalize ties. she is the 'ideal' choice.
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Post by toomanyclouds on May 2, 2017 4:42:08 GMT
I think you've understood this whole scene a lot better than me, could you maybe elaborate? I'm still kind of confused. Tann says it's "an interim ambassador to represent concerns outside the Nexus." So they are an ambassador of everyone to everyone but the angara? And does "outside the Nexus" mean everything physically outside the Nexus structure, or just the angara plus the "rogue" colonies (Kadara and Elaadan), so politically outside the Nexus? I got the general importance of the tone of the choice, but I have to admit I still find it somewhat nebulous who this ambassador represents (I doubt Aya, Kadara, Elaadan and Eos have enough concurring opinions to get one ambassador), who they represent them to (I think the Nexus leaders), and where they would even be stationed (probably on the Nexus, but I haven't found an office). Since all of the present Milky Way races already have a spot in Nexus rulership, it seems immediately more sensible to me to just ask the angara for an interim council member of their choice if that's the case. Everyone else's concerns will probably be brought up by the respective member of their species, as they were during the game (although Kandros is a bit less political than the rest). We had established outposts with Prodromos, Ditaeon and whatever it is on Voeld. We hadn't established anything like Meridian, though. It was an instant and permanent home for humanity. (Hyperion crashed there, and will never "fly" again.) The angara also have a claim on Meridian, since it was "made for them", indirectly (or at least with their worlds in mind); and because they helped reclaim it. There's no way the angara would willingly let Meridian slip away. Given the size, population, permanence and significance of Meridian, it was decided that the first steps toward an Andromeda Council would be taken. An ambassador, representing Meridian, would be the first such appointment. Presumably, other ambassadors will follow; and a governing Council will be established. So, it's not that the Meridian ambassador represents everyone outside of the Nexus. This ambassador is simply the first such appointment. He or she represents all of Meridian's people, who will be predominately human, at first. There are also angara and Nexus personnel in smaller numbers. Ideally, the angara would eventually join the "Nexus Council" government. This is one reason I am okay with appointing Moshae Sjefa. She's qualified, there are angara on Meridian, and it's a nice step in solidifying our ties with the angara. We just killed the Archon and obtained Meridian. It's a good time to include them in our victory and formalize ties. Ah, thanks, that's good to know. Do you remember where they say that? Because in the small speech they give you about what the ambassador does, they don't seem to mention Meridian other than as the factor that has accelerated the need for an ambassador. I just watched the video again and if you choose Bradley, he's splitting his time between Prodromos and Nexus, which is kind of strange if he mainly represents Meridian but never sets foot there. Tann says it's about representing "concerns outside the Nexus [...] to the Nexus", Hayjer calls himself "interim ambassador to Heleus" if chosen, Moshae complains there will be "a new voice representing Heleus" if she isn't chosen. Man, it's like even the characters didn't quite understand what this position is about. Oh well, Moshae still seems like the most logical choice in any case, just because it gives the angara some political weight. Considering their power is somewhat nebulously split between the Moshae, that Aya mayor, and Evfra, it helps if for now there's one voice to listen to. Bradley and the salarians are probably the playing-it-safe choices, and Morda is for all the secret renegades who just wanna see Andromeda burn...
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Post by Element Zero on May 2, 2017 4:58:28 GMT
We had established outposts with Prodromos, Ditaeon and whatever it is on Voeld. We hadn't established anything like Meridian, though. It was an instant and permanent home for humanity. (Hyperion crashed there, and will never "fly" again.) The angara also have a claim on Meridian, since it was "made for them", indirectly (or at least with their worlds in mind); and because they helped reclaim it. There's no way the angara would willingly let Meridian slip away. Given the size, population, permanence and significance of Meridian, it was decided that the first steps toward an Andromeda Council would be taken. An ambassador, representing Meridian, would be the first such appointment. Presumably, other ambassadors will follow; and a governing Council will be established. So, it's not that the Meridian ambassador represents everyone outside of the Nexus. This ambassador is simply the first such appointment. He or she represents all of Meridian's people, who will be predominately human, at first. There are also angara and Nexus personnel in smaller numbers. Ideally, the angara would eventually join the "Nexus Council" government. This is one reason I am okay with appointing Moshae Sjefa. She's qualified, there are angara on Meridian, and it's a nice step in solidifying our ties with the angara. We just killed the Archon and obtained Meridian. It's a good time to include them in our victory and formalize ties. Ah, thanks, that's good to know. Do you remember where they say that? Because in the small speech they give you about what the ambassador does, they don't seem to mention Meridian other than as the factor that has accelerated the need for an ambassador. I just watched the video again and if you choose Bradley, he's splitting his time between Prodromos and Nexus, which is kind of strange if he mainly represents Meridian but never sets foot there. Tann says it's about representing "concerns outside the Nexus [...] to the Nexus", Hayjer calls himself "interim ambassador to Heleus" if chosen, Moshae complains there will be "a new voice representing Heleus" if she isn't chosen. Man, it's like even the characters didn't quite understand what this position is about. Oh well, Moshae still seems like the most logical choice in any case, just because it gives the angara some political weight. Considering their power is somewhat nebulously split between the Moshae, that Aya mayor, and Evfra, it helps if for now there's one voice to listen to. Bradley and the salarians are probably the playing-it-safe choices, and Morda is for all the secret renegades who just wanna see Andromeda burn... It is a bit poorly framed and written. I don't believe everything in my post is explicitly stated in that conversation. I had to think it through, and put the pieces together. That's where the "more ambassadors to come" bit came into it. Tann's words make the most sense, with Moshae Sjefa's being a bit backward. Tann and Addison seem to somewhat clearly indicate that this is the first step in forming a Council government. Meridian isn't a small outpost town, but a permanent home for 20K humans and others. Something like that, with all of the serious work that will take place there, requires more than local leadership. It requires an embassy to coordinate with the Nexus. Addison seemed to indicate that this was always the eventual plan. Everyone just assumed that outposts would become colonies, instead of finding a cozy little micro-world all at once. As Eos, Voeld, Kadara, New Tuchanka and other such places grow, they'll eventually require full embassies. I have a feeling that it will be accelerated, because Morda won't want her colony less well represented. We'll see. The current ambassador is appointed on a temporary basis, since the Council itself doesn't even exist, yet. Meridian and its needs arrived as a sudden surprise to everyone. I assume Bradley splits time because BioWare didn't want to create his replacement on Eos and move August to Meridian. That's too much work; just like letting Aria go home after we freed Omega from Cerberus.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2017 6:05:33 GMT
Moshae. Everyone seems to agree on this, except Tann.
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Post by NRieh on May 2, 2017 6:35:54 GMT
(Self-repost from the similar thread.)
First and foremost - this choice had made no sense to me. At all.
I mean...an 'ambassador' or 'representative' should... guess what? Riiight! Represent. 1. Someone. 2. Somewhere.
Let's start with 1. - Moshae. I'm not sure she can tell asari from humans, zero experience with MW species. Makes her kinda lame candidate to 'represent' them. Oh, and I wish her all the luck with 'representing' the Krogan or Kadara people. She's going to need it. - Bradley. Nice guy, a decent man, is able to run his li'll outpost. Can hardly imagine him 'representing' anyone anywhere, though. Obviously, he can't represent the Angara people, as he's not one of them, very likely with little knowledge about them (if any at all). - Salarian PF...uh..they were the latest ones to arrive, and I'm pretty sure that they should have their hands full. Zero info about their social skills. Not-Angara (same issues as with Bradley). They are going to need even more luck with 'representing' the Krogan (I want to see Morda's morda* face when she hears about the salarian 'representative'. - Morda...uh..do we even want to consider this as an option? She could possibly represent Krogans on some level, sure. But that's it.
Now - about 2. What the fuck is that? Anything AI-bound is...well, AI-bound, they've got their own chains of commands already. Rest of the Heleus, which are NOT AI have nothing to do with their 'Councils' or whatever they like to call it. So, let's imagine we pick this...whoever we consider the least awful for the job (see above- NEITHER qualifies). And this 'representative'..does what exactly? Passes Sloan\Reyes a taxing bill from Tann? Do I need to draw a picture of where this 'bill' is going to be placed permanently?...
The 'council' idea is kinda reasonable, but it should include ALL of the mentioned above + some asari matriarch + some experienced turian. Preferably the candidates should be chosen by their own people, and I don't see where this space-magical 'ambassador' fits in any way.
I've picked Bradley just because I was not given an option of telling them all to go sober up.
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Post by toomanyclouds on May 2, 2017 6:50:18 GMT
(Self-repost from the similar thread.) First and foremost - this choice had made no sense to me. At all. I mean...an 'ambassador' or 'representative' should... guess what? Riiight! Represent. 1. Someone. 2. Somewhere. Let's start with 1. - Moshae. I'm not sure she can tell asari from humans, zero experience with MW species. Makes her kinda lame candidate to 'represent' them. Oh, and I wish her all the luck with 'representing' the Krogan or Kadara people. She's going to need it. - Bradley. Nice guy, a decent man, is able to run his li'll outpost. Can hardly imagine him 'representing' anyone anywhere, though. Obviously, he can't represent the Angara people, as he's not one of them, very likely with little knowledge about them (if any at all). - Salarian PF...uh..they were the latest ones to arrive, and I'm pretty sure that they should have their hands full. Zero info about their social skills. Not-Angara (same issues as with Bradley). They are going to need even more luck with 'representing' the Krogan (I want to see Morda's morda* face when she hears about the salarian 'representative'. - Morda...uh..do we even want to consider this as an option? She could possibly represent Krogans on some level, sure. But that's it. Now - about 2. What the fuck is that? Anything AI-bound is...well, AI-bound, they've got their own chains of commands already. Rest of the Heleus, which are NOT AI have nothing to do with their 'Councils' or whatever they like to call it. So, let's imagine we pick this...whoever we consider the least awful for the job (see above- NEITHER qualifies). And this 'representative'..does what exactly? Passes Sloan\Reyes a taxing bill from Tann? Do I need to draw a picture of where this 'bill' is going to be placed permanently?... The 'council' idea is kinda reasonable, but it should include ALL of the mentioned above + some asari matriarch + some experienced turian. Preferably the candidates should be chosen by their own people, and I don't see where this space-magical 'ambassador' fits in any way. I've picked Bradley just because I was not given an option of telling them all to go sober up. I think this is basically the idea for the long-term, or at least some sort of diplomatically elected council, hence interim ambassador. For the reasons you stated, however (no one can properly represent both Milky Way species and angara), I just don't really see how this all works. I gave it to the Moshae just so the angara would have a political say at all in the intergalactical politics of their own galaxy. I trust the Nexus leadership to represent the interests of the colonies at least for now, when the colonies are only a few months old. What happens to rogue places like Kadara or even Eladaan (if you don't choose to give Morda her core) is anyone's guess, though. The angara have as little control over them as the Milky Way species do. To be honest, the Moshae is a great idol figure for her people and very intelligent, but I wish I could have chosen Evfra or the Aya mayor (Paaran Shie? something like thaat) instead, too. They both have more experience as actual politicians and, in contrast to the Moshae, are probably both at least still young enough to survive a krogan headbutt.
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