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Post by NRieh on May 2, 2017 7:11:51 GMT
It does not. This is exactly what it is. We're picking up an unfitting person for the nonsensical role which does not even exist(at that point).
This 'choice' was arguably the worst one in the series (and among the BW games too).
In a sense, it reminds me of ME3 pre-EC ending - super not-intuitive.
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Post by Element Zero on May 3, 2017 6:14:25 GMT
(Self-repost from the similar thread.) First and foremost - this choice had made no sense to me. At all. I mean...an 'ambassador' or 'representative' should... guess what? Riiight! Represent. 1. Someone. 2. Somewhere. Let's start with 1. - Moshae. I'm not sure she can tell asari from humans, zero experience with MW species. Makes her kinda lame candidate to 'represent' them. Oh, and I wish her all the luck with 'representing' the Krogan or Kadara people. She's going to need it. - Bradley. Nice guy, a decent man, is able to run his li'll outpost. Can hardly imagine him 'representing' anyone anywhere, though. Obviously, he can't represent the Angara people, as he's not one of them, very likely with little knowledge about them (if any at all). - Salarian PF...uh..they were the latest ones to arrive, and I'm pretty sure that they should have their hands full. Zero info about their social skills. Not-Angara (same issues as with Bradley). They are going to need even more luck with 'representing' the Krogan (I want to see Morda's morda* face when she hears about the salarian 'representative'. - Morda...uh..do we even want to consider this as an option? She could possibly represent Krogans on some level, sure. But that's it. Now - about 2. What the fuck is that? Anything AI-bound is...well, AI-bound, they've got their own chains of commands already. Rest of the Heleus, which are NOT AI have nothing to do with their 'Councils' or whatever they like to call it. So, let's imagine we pick this...whoever we consider the least awful for the job (see above- NEITHER qualifies). And this 'representative'..does what exactly? Passes Sloan\Reyes a taxing bill from Tann? Do I need to draw a picture of where this 'bill' is going to be placed permanently?... The 'council' idea is kinda reasonable, but it should include ALL of the mentioned above + some asari matriarch + some experienced turian. Preferably the candidates should be chosen by their own people, and I don't see where this space-magical 'ambassador' fits in any way. I've picked Bradley just because I was not given an option of telling them all to go sober up. _____ *morda - in Russian - 'an ugly face'. You seem to misunderstand the intentions of the Nexus leadership and the role of the ambassador. The ambassador is not going to represent Kadara, New Tuchanka or anyone beyond Meridian. This is a temporarily appointed ambassador for Meridian. I'll not restate everything I said on the previous page in two long posts. Suffice it to say that Meridian is a sudden, huge surprise, and long-term plans become immediate plans, of necessity. Any colony of sufficient size will have an "Ambassador to the Nexus". Meridian, in a completely unexpected way, became a full-fledged colony. It has a current population of over 20K humans, plus other MW species and angara. No doubt, the expectation would've been that a governing Council would be in place long before any outposts grew into colonies of that size. Now, the timeline for choosing a Council has been accelerated. Ambassadors for all colonies will eventually coordinate with the Council. For now, there's only one colony, several tiny outposts, and a Council to choose. |
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Post by Ahriman on May 3, 2017 6:53:23 GMT
(Self-repost from the similar thread.) First and foremost - this choice had made no sense to me. At all. I mean...an 'ambassador' or 'representative' should... guess what? Riiight! Represent. 1. Someone. 2. Somewhere. Let's start with 1. - Moshae. I'm not sure she can tell asari from humans, zero experience with MW species. Makes her kinda lame candidate to 'represent' them. Oh, and I wish her all the luck with 'representing' the Krogan or Kadara people. She's going to need it. - Bradley. Nice guy, a decent man, is able to run his li'll outpost. Can hardly imagine him 'representing' anyone anywhere, though. Obviously, he can't represent the Angara people, as he's not one of them, very likely with little knowledge about them (if any at all). - Salarian PF...uh..they were the latest ones to arrive, and I'm pretty sure that they should have their hands full. Zero info about their social skills. Not-Angara (same issues as with Bradley). They are going to need even more luck with 'representing' the Krogan (I want to see Morda's morda* face when she hears about the salarian 'representative'. - Morda...uh..do we even want to consider this as an option? She could possibly represent Krogans on some level, sure. But that's it. Now - about 2. What the fuck is that? Anything AI-bound is...well, AI-bound, they've got their own chains of commands already. Rest of the Heleus, which are NOT AI have nothing to do with their 'Councils' or whatever they like to call it. So, let's imagine we pick this...whoever we consider the least awful for the job (see above- NEITHER qualifies). And this 'representative'..does what exactly? Passes Sloan\Reyes a taxing bill from Tann? Do I need to draw a picture of where this 'bill' is going to be placed permanently?... The 'council' idea is kinda reasonable, but it should include ALL of the mentioned above + some asari matriarch + some experienced turian. Preferably the candidates should be chosen by their own people, and I don't see where this space-magical 'ambassador' fits in any way. I've picked Bradley just because I was not given an option of telling them all to go sober up. _____ *morda - in Russian - 'an ugly face'. You seem to misunderstand the intentions of the Nexus leadership and the role of the ambassador. The ambassador is not going to represent Kadara, New Tuchanka or anyone beyond Meridian. This is a temporarily appointed ambassador for Meridian. I'll not restate everything I said on the previous page in two long posts. Suffice it to say that Meridian is a sudden, huge surprise, and long-term plans become immediate plans, of necessity. Any colony of sufficient size will have an "Ambassador to the Nexus". Meridian, in a completely unexpected way, became a full-fledged colony. It has a current population of over 20K humans, plus other MW species and angara. No doubt, the expectation would've been that a governing Council would be in place long before any outposts grew into colonies of that size. Now, the timeline for choosing a Council has been accelerated. Ambassadors for all colonies will eventually coordinate with the Council. For now, there's only one colony, several tiny outposts, and a Council to choose. Ok, since you keep repeating it. Where the hell did you take that from? In that scene Meridian only mentioned because it sped things up. Here please tell me where they say ambassador will represent Meridian. |
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Post by NRieh on May 3, 2017 7:13:07 GMT
I had to google for it, now here is the quote. __________________ Tann: ...and while I maintain that it's premature, we must nominate an interim ambassador to represent concerns outside the NexusPF: Interim ambassador? To what, and for who?Tann: To the Nexus. The eventual goal was always a galactic council, but Meridian had..accelerated concerns. Addison: An ark has landed, the vaults may make outposts self-sufficient. And we can't claim to represent the sovereign Angara. An interim ambassador would represent concerns outside the Nexus. Until elections. When we can all step aside. (lazy to type it all - they explain how PF has to support a candidate because it's the only way, and they can't ask people to vote just yet, but people are going to trust PF's choice) PF: Someone to speak for Heleus...(then they move to discussing the candidates) Moshae: Pathfinder, I'm told there will soon be a new voice representing Heleus Evfra: Another of your 'leaders' claiming to know what we need Moshae: It was an impossible choice, Evfra, there's no name that would represent everyone.Though, the ones chosen definitely represent someone, don't they? ______________________ I'm not sure where this 'representing Meridian' of yours is coming from because it's not even mentioned once. Their phrasing is 200% terrible. We are literally told that this person would represent concerns outside the Nexus to the Nexus (and also "speak for Heleus") Nothing more, nothing less. Rest of it is all your imagination. And I'm not saying this like it's a bad thing (lol, see my signature), but we need to accept that this 'ambassador' thing is extremely poorly written and unclear (to say the least). ps: Ahriman Lol. You've ninjaed that while I was typing the script. Birds of a feather...  |
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Post by congokong on May 3, 2017 17:33:53 GMT
This choice reminds me of the next Divine choice in DA:I. The obvious choice is you, but the game doesn't allow it. Tann gives some BS reason that a few naysayer idiots would think you killed the archon to elevate yourself instead of doing it to save the galaxy, thus that's enough of a deterrent to not consider you. And of course, Ryder doesn't argue it. Because of that, my Ryder chose Morda to stick it to them.
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Post by avalion on May 4, 2017 0:13:31 GMT
This choice reminds me of the next Divine choice in DA:I. The obvious choice is you, but the game doesn't allow it. Tann gives some BS reason that a few naysayer idiots would think you killed the archon to elevate yourself instead of doing it to save the galaxy, thus that's enough of a deterrent to not consider you. And of course, Ryder doesn't argue it. Because of that, my Ryder chose Morda to stick it to them. The divine choice makes more sense to me than this choice did. They at least framed it as who you "campaigned for" more than you actually choosing the divine. Plus I agree, it feels like Ryder would be a first pick for the ambassador position. However, I disagree that the divine should have obviously been the inquisitor. It's a religious and political position and only if you played your inquisitor in a certain way would they be suitable. My male Lavellan for one has no interest in the chantry or Andraste. |
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Post by Element Zero on May 4, 2017 3:39:57 GMT
NRieh, Ahriman, I seemed to remember the first minute pretty well, formed an idea on that, and put the rest into the box I'd made. Ugh. The writing is even worse than I remembered. (Such a long game. It takes a while to get to Meridian.) I'd actually been eager to revisit this conversation in my current PT; but now there's no urgency.  My imagination, "fill in the blanks", or whatever we call it, is much better than the murky mess they wrote. I'm going to stick with it as a personal interpretation (or headcanon, as the kids say) until the day we get clarification. Thanks for posting. If been thinking of this thread today, and had even considered hitting YouTube myself.
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Post by erikson on May 4, 2017 5:36:56 GMT
This choice reminds me of the next Divine choice in DA:I. The obvious choice is you, but the game doesn't allow it. Tann gives some BS reason that a few naysayer idiots would think you killed the archon to elevate yourself instead of doing it to save the galaxy, thus that's enough of a deterrent to not consider you. And of course, Ryder doesn't argue it. Because of that, my Ryder chose Morda to stick it to them. The divine choice makes more sense to me than this choice did. They at least framed it as who you "campaigned for" more than you actually choosing the divine. Plus I agree, it feels like Ryder would be a first pick for the ambassador position. However, I disagree that the divine should have obviously been the inquisitor. It's a religious and political position and only if you played your inquisitor in a certain way would they be suitable. My male Lavellan for one has no interest in the chantry or Andraste. Men can't be priests either, unless Leliana is made divine. |
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Post by djbare on May 5, 2017 10:17:35 GMT
At the end of the game you get to pick the Andromeda Initiative ambassador to the new Heleus Council. I was very tempted to go Morda but frankly I thought I gave enough strength to the krogan what with the whole super advanced dreadnaught core used to power lightbulbs. In the end I picked the Prodromos leader. My problem came when talking to the Moshae afterward. She was very... confrontational/upset that I didn't choose her. Why would I choose her to be the Initiative's ambassador? She doesn't know us, she didn't come with us from the MW. Sure she's an ally, but she's not Initiative. Did i misunderstand something? Was the chosen ambassador meant to represent something else? Lets keep in mind, we're the aliens, in my first play through I chose the Moshae, in the 2nd I chose Morda, thought it was about time the Krogan had a say, I'm going to guess here and say that's probably the best choice despite the Moshae not being happy, better to have a Krogan with a nuke on the council where you can keep an on on them., I'm going through all choices, it's obvious these will carry over to a sequel, backing up my saves just to make sure they don't get lost, will be interesting to see the consequences if any. |
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Post by NRieh on May 5, 2017 12:08:22 GMT
Because David Anderson had always remained in the Council... Oh, wait?!  To me, it's obviously an 'illusional' choice, a poorly written one. My money would be on 'What Ambassador? Oh...that one! It did not work, you see....' |
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Post by Ahriman on May 5, 2017 12:16:45 GMT
My money would be on 'What Ambassador? Oh...that one! It did not work, you see....' They told right away that this is temporary position, it's not even implied to exist at the moment of possible MEA2. |
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Post by Light on May 5, 2017 16:09:05 GMT
I took it to mean representing the Heleous Cluster to the Nexus ("represent concerns outside the Nexus" and "to the Nexus")
Because the Nexus itself was full of MW races I chose Moshae Sjefa my first playthrough. The Nexus personnel understand the MW races and the Moshae understand the Angara. It's the 'Googdy two shoes' choice.
Second playthrough was Bradley. Sara Ryder is a bitch that places Human interests first so the Human Bradley got her vote. The xenophobic choice.
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Post by qwib on May 6, 2017 21:29:49 GMT
I did choose Kesh the first time. She is the most reasonable character in this game.
Second playthrough I did choose the Moshea. With different choices in my second playthrough, she was actually very nice and not so much a bitch like the first time. So It thought it was okay.
I wish I could choose Efra though, I haven't figured out how to get him yet.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 7, 2017 3:38:46 GMT
We had established outposts with Prodromos, Ditaeon and whatever it is on Voeld. We hadn't established anything like Meridian, though. It was an instant and permanent home for humanity. ( Hyperion crashed there, and will never "fly" again.) I agree with most of this, and your other posts. I picked the Moshae for similar reasons. However, I don't get the bit about the Hyperion. I didn't get it when Scott said (several times) during the mission that "we're staying," as if the ark crashing there was the deciding factor. Why is this the case? It's not like Cortes scuttling his ships, leaving his men with no options. We have shuttles that can carry people to other worlds. Sure, it might take a while and some logistic planning, but if Meridian hadn't been habitable, if the inside had been like all of the non-living Remnant structures, what would they have done? Humanity would have died out just because the Hyperion crashed there? I don't think so. They would have ferried people (or their cryo pods) to safety. Hell, they could even have used one of the other arks to do it, since they're the largest things around. |
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Post by Element Zero on May 7, 2017 4:00:36 GMT
I did choose Kesh the first time. She is the most reasonable character in this game. Second playthrough I did choose the Moshea. With different choices in my second playthrough, she was actually very nice and not so much a bitch like the first time. So It thought it was okay. I wish I could choose Efra though, I haven't figured out how to get him yet. I've never gotten the choice to recommend Kesh. That's interesting. What is everyone doing to make Moshae Sjefa act "bitchy"? Aside from being a bit snippy (while seriously ill) just after escaping the exaltation facility, she's always been very polite and reasonable for me. She even forces Evfra to open up more than he'd like regarding Vehn Turev. She insists that Ryder is a proven friend to the angara, even at that early point. |
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Post by BansheeOwnage on May 7, 2017 4:25:34 GMT
We had established outposts with Prodromos, Ditaeon and whatever it is on Voeld. We hadn't established anything like Meridian, though. It was an instant and permanent home for humanity. ( Hyperion crashed there, and will never "fly" again.) I agree with most of this, and your other posts. I picked the Moshae for similar reasons. However, I don't get the bit about the Hyperion. I didn't get it when Scott said (several times) during the mission that "we're staying," as if the ark crashing there was the deciding factor. Why is this the case? It's not like Cortes scuttling his ships, leaving his men with no options. We have shuttles that can carry people to other worlds. Sure, it might take a while and some logistic planning, but if Meridian hadn't been habitable, if the inside had been like all of the non-living Remnant structures, what would they have done? Humanity would have died out just because the Hyperion crashed there? I don't think so. They would have ferried people (or their cryo pods) to safety. Hell, they could even have used one of the other arks to do it, since they're the largest things around. This, along with the directly related issue of everyone referring to Meridian as mainly a human world, is puzzling and a little  -inducing. For the reasons you just wrote, it doesn't follow that it would be a mostly human-populated world. It would be just like the Nexus; waking up there doesn't mean you'll be assigned there. And perhaps more important is the fact that it's prime real estate, for quite a few reasons. The angara have a far bigger claim on it than anyone else, and even if that wasn't the case, it makes no sense for a deliberately multi-species venture to suddenly play favourites with not just any colony, but its Capitol. And there's no way the other species would stand for that, anyway. I'd consider it far more likely that there would be a significant angaran presence there (especially considering the Aya lottery), along with some of each Initiative species. But not human-dominated. It would also be logical, since it's not only a Capitol but a significantly defensible location, and you'd want to have members of each species present for both of those reasons as a contingency. I could roll my eyes at the marketing for the game - "Find a new home for humanity" - but I was hoping that's all it was. We'll see what they do with it in DLC and the next game. |
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Post by BansheeOwnage on May 7, 2017 4:27:31 GMT
I did choose Kesh the first time. She is the most reasonable character in this game. Second playthrough I did choose the Moshea. With different choices in my second playthrough, she was actually very nice and not so much a bitch like the first time. So It thought it was okay. I wish I could choose Efra though, I haven't figured out how to get him yet. I've never gotten the choice to recommend Kesh. That's interesting. What is everyone doing to make Moshae Sjefa act "bitchy"? Aside from being a bit snippy (while seriously ill) just after escaping the exaltation facility, she's always been very polite and reasonable for me. She even forces Evfra to open up more than he'd like regarding Vehn Turev. She insists that Ryder is a proven friend to the angara, even at that early point. I think people like to exaggerate things like that. Aside from a very annoying "I care for your people in a way you clearly do not for mine" when you meet her (wish we could have given a retort), she seemed fine to me. |
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Post by Element Zero on May 7, 2017 4:32:00 GMT
I've never gotten the choice to recommend Kesh. That's interesting. What is everyone doing to make Moshae Sjefa act "bitchy"? Aside from being a bit snippy (while seriously ill) just after escaping the exaltation facility, she's always been very polite and reasonable for me. She even forces Evfra to open up more than he'd like regarding Vehn Turev. She insists that Ryder is a proven friend to the angara, even at that early point. I think people like to exaggerate things like that. Aside from a very annoying "I care for your people in a way you clearly do not for mine" when you meet her (wish we could have given a retort), she seemed fine to me. I liked that she was a bit grumpy. She's sick and traumatized as hell when we meet her. It's difficult to be cheery under those circumstances. Also, we did just "side with" a soldier over the Moshae. She seems fine with it by the time we get to Aya. Her emotions had had time to cool, and reason had reasserted itself. |
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 7, 2017 4:38:55 GMT
I could roll my eyes at the marketing for the game - "Find a new home for humanity" - but I was hoping that's all it was. We'll see what they do with it in DLC and the next game. I think this is a result of the series PC always having been a human. There has never been race choice like in the DA games. Because of that, I assume that the devs think that the player, playing a human, and also as a real human, would think along those lines. And of course the game is developed by humans. People complain about that to some degree with Dragon Age, particularly as relates to Andrastianism, but it seems more prominent in ME. |
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 7, 2017 6:36:36 GMT
We had established outposts with Prodromos, Ditaeon and whatever it is on Voeld. We hadn't established anything like Meridian, though. It was an instant and permanent home for humanity. ( Hyperion crashed there, and will never "fly" again.) I agree with most of this, and your other posts. I picked the Moshae for similar reasons. However, I don't get the bit about the Hyperion. I didn't get it when Scott said (several times) during the mission that "we're staying," as if the ark crashing there was the deciding factor. Why is this the case? It's not like Cortes scuttling his ships, leaving his men with no options. We have shuttles that can carry people to other worlds. Sure, it might take a while and some logistic planning, but if Meridian hadn't been habitable, if the inside had been like all of the non-living Remnant structures, what would they have done? Humanity would have died out just because the Hyperion crashed there? I don't think so. They would have ferried people (or their cryo pods) to safety. Hell, they could even have used one of the other arks to do it, since they're the largest things around. Going back to how Meridian upset everything, because it's fully capable of supporting any life that sets up there, I think the plan had originally been that the various Arks would, after they had supplied the Nexus with the power it needed to come fully online, move to the various golden worlds and be stripped down and used to create various capitol cities on these worlds. With Hyperion crashing on Meridian, it's a choice between finishing the job that was effectively if unintentionally started, making Meridian the human 'golden world' and stripping Hyperion down and beginning the process of bringing the rest of the population out of cryo, or repairing its engines to just set it down on another world at a later date. Given that they're already short on resources, they pick the expedient option of just going ahead and settling Meridian and leaving the Hyperion where it is. |
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Post by Lavochkin on May 7, 2017 7:53:08 GMT
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Post by zeypher on May 7, 2017 9:17:32 GMT
Raeka is the most sensible choice as that is the only choice that actually gets the 4 pathfinders in the council. Since we have to fix the shit anyways might as well get ahead of the problems. Pathfinders also bring in their AI's and are a great deal more competent. Finally it allows us to control Addison's stupidity from wrecking more stuff.
Bradley is basically a leader of a tiny outpost, Angara are decimated with their war with Kett and not really good at fighting anyways, Moshae barely offers us any remtech experience as we know the pathfinders can access and use remnant technology a whole lot better than the Angara. So pathfinders are the most viable choice to get a seat at the council as they deal with all the aspects and also deal with every side involved and are the only ones who actually are capable of representing Heleus cluster. Finally when things do blow up which they always do a pathfinder has to deal with it anyways.
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Post by qwib on May 7, 2017 9:58:59 GMT
I did choose Kesh the first time. She is the most reasonable character in this game. Second playthrough I did choose the Moshea. With different choices in my second playthrough, she was actually very nice and not so much a bitch like the first time. So It thought it was okay. I wish I could choose Efra though, I haven't figured out how to get him yet. I've never gotten the choice to recommend Kesh. That's interesting. What is everyone doing to make Moshae Sjefa act "bitchy"? Aside from being a bit snippy (while seriously ill) just after escaping the exaltation facility, she's always been very polite and reasonable for me. She even forces Evfra to open up more than he'd like regarding Vehn Turev. She insists that Ryder is a proven friend to the angara, even at that early point. Because she behaves differently if you destroy the Kett facility vs. keeping it. So I assume the majority keep the Facility to rescue Angaran. She is super nice if you destroy it. I'm not sure how I got Kesh, in my second playthrough I didn't even have Morda nor Kesh as an option, only three choices for an Ambassador. I suspect it is a combination of choices. |
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Post by Element Zero on May 7, 2017 16:54:59 GMT
I've never gotten the choice to recommend Kesh. That's interesting. What is everyone doing to make Moshae Sjefa act "bitchy"? Aside from being a bit snippy (while seriously ill) just after escaping the exaltation facility, she's always been very polite and reasonable for me. She even forces Evfra to open up more than he'd like regarding Vehn Turev. She insists that Ryder is a proven friend to the angara, even at that early point. Because she behaves differently if you destroy the Kett facility vs. keeping it. So I assume the majority keep the Facility to rescue Angaran. She is super nice if you destroy it. I'm not sure how I got Kesh, in my second playthrough I didn't even have Morda nor Kesh as an option, only three choices for an Ambassador. I suspect it is a combination of choices. I've saved the Resistance every time and still think that she's very nice. She was deeply traumatized, and very ill, when she got slightly snippy aboard Tempest. It's subjective, I guess. Its interesting that there are more factors at play than it seemed, initially. The one gripe I have with the writing is that everything is nearly the same, regardless of what we say and do. At least there seems to be some minor variety in outcomes, I guess. |
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-inducing. For the reasons you just wrote, it doesn't follow that it would be a mostly human-populated world. It would be just like the Nexus; waking up there doesn't mean you'll be assigned there. And perhaps more important is the fact that it's prime real estate, for quite a few reasons. The angara have a far bigger claim on it than anyone else, and even if that wasn't the case, it makes no sense for a deliberately multi-species venture to suddenly play favourites with not just any colony, but its Capitol. And there's no way the other species would stand for that, anyway.
