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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 6, 2016 21:24:45 GMT
So do you like the Executioner or the Geth Plasma SMG?
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Post by stephenw32768 on Sept 6, 2016 21:33:29 GMT
The thing that completely ruins the Executioner for me is the "BOING!" noise that it makes when it fires. It just sounds so comical.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 21:34:49 GMT
I thought the "some other junk" was going to be the wraith.
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Post by Arktinen on Sept 6, 2016 21:38:16 GMT
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 6, 2016 21:39:53 GMT
The thing that completely ruins the Executioner for me is the "BOING!" noise that it makes when it fires. It just sounds so comical. The thing that ruins it for me is that it's completely pointless. Arc Pistol does everything 10x better for the same rarity (Gold) The Executioner can't kill most shielded mooks in one shot, it has a pretty terrible recoil and since it has a "fast" reload type, the reload cancel can be tricky with it.
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 6, 2016 21:40:19 GMT
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Post by ScumbagShepurd on Sept 6, 2016 21:46:06 GMT
I believe the only one I had positive experience with the Executioner on was BatSentinel. He stunnes an enemy with his net and then shoots him in the head. That's all-- and Suppressor or Saber or some decent sniper rifle are so much better at this.
Thing is, I go to panic mode easily and shooting one bullet at a time doesn't help it at all.
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Post by Filippopotame on Sept 6, 2016 22:13:26 GMT
Well, the noise sure is comical. But it's still a very good weapon. Any overload character can make it do wonders (love it on the Tsent). Submission net characters do great on it too. I tried it on a Hsol to take advantage of the intant reload but it's not that good. The damage is quite good (more than a black widow shot), and the rate of fire is nice. It's got innate piercing and acess to pistol mods. Sure it's not a meta gun but it's far better than a carnifex or a supressor that have the same rarity. And most of all, it looks cool !
And geth smg is total crap, no kit can make it good (the human soldier is a fun build though cuz you never have to stop shooting).
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Post by Darth Dennis on Sept 6, 2016 22:20:09 GMT
Never touched the Executioner. I've got the Talon, Acolyte, and Arc pistols already, so there's no point in it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2016 22:43:26 GMT
I don't exactly like them, but I do play with them when it's time for their corresponding challenges to get finished (yes, I am a slave to my Manifest...).
The Executioner goes on my Batarian Sentinel or on my Female Quarian Infiltrator in those cases.
For the Geth Plasma SMG I take my trusty Turian Soldier.
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Post by Arkhne on Sept 6, 2016 23:24:55 GMT
GPSMG is probably the first weapon to be listed in these threads that is actually not good. Also the first of them that I will classify as "Airlock it."
IMHO, GPR is better in every way (except weight, but even passiveless characters wont notice the weight of the GPR), and fills the exact same role (high capacity ammo primer). Lets make a weak gun that ramps up, leaving us essentially exposed whilst it fails to hurt the enemy, and has recoil and eats ammo when ramped up. Conversely, the GPR Has no recoil, no ramp up, and doesn't need sustained fire to reach its full potential, and doesn't eat ammo like a wannabe Harrier. Any gun in this game can be made to work, but some of them just aren't worth it.
Executioner is not great either, but it has a lot more potential, due to some innate stats, and the fact that it MUCH higher burst damage (Much more useful than sustained fire for most characters). Sure, the Destroyer can get a 2 Shot Executioner, but then you also need a Stabilization Module consumable because the recoil is pretty silly. It's a pocket sniper rifle, exactly as it should be. Packing an SR into a frame that size is bound to cause technical difficulties, especially in the recoil department. That it can pack as much punch as it does should be respected. Still, Arc Pistol exists, so it has some very tough competition in that department. Will have to try the Executioner more if I was to compare those two.
So, despite being a weak gun, Executioner is an easy win for me here.
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Post by Evil on Sept 7, 2016 0:21:12 GMT
Built in AP and low weight make the executioner pistol a useful caster gun on new manifests that are lacking AP mods and consumables if RNGesus grants you one early on (not that I ever got around to making a new manifest ). Fuck wasting time mailslotting guardians. Beyond that, it's practical uses are limited but it does have a few. That's more than can be said about the GSMG, which is just for luls. Shieldgate. If you can work around it the executioner's a good gun. If you can't it's mediocre.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 7, 2016 0:30:13 GMT
Le sigh.
Executioner sucks on all kits besides Destroyer. On Destroyer, it is a win cannon.
GPSMG is peachy on GI, otherwise it sucks.
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Post by BDaddy1968 on Sept 7, 2016 1:28:37 GMT
As long as you can aim and reload cancel its a friggen hand claymore.
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Post by CHRrOME on Sept 7, 2016 2:22:35 GMT
Glad my request was taken So yeah, I actually tried to use that piece of garbage again the other day on the male Quafiltrator and what do you know, it sucked. Then I remember why I never use that aberration. I wasn't able to one shot (with headshots mind you) a fucking marauder not even with TC on Gold. Yeah, maybe I should've picked something different than phasic rounds, but still. It fails miserably at its only job: one shot stuff. Takes ages to reload, has an awful recoil and for what? Almost executioner indeed. The 2 to 3 shot "executioner" or the "grace shot pistol" should be called. Moving onto the GPSMG, I have nothing to say yet because it has been a heck of a lot of time since I last used it, probably because it sucked. But I can almost tell that the only hope for that gun is to pass the "Tsol test" ... It's basically a GethPR but with shittier damage (as if the GPR isn't shitier enough). Rate of fire is the same I believe, but worst because it has that charge up time mechanic that I hate so much. Has a better mag though. So we shall see... I'm about to test it right now on my last round this night. Bringing the Piranha as backup just in case it sucks balls like no other...
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Post by Voluptuous Volus on Sept 7, 2016 5:51:54 GMT
^ /thread. I only created it, because of you
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Post by frankiscrank on Sept 7, 2016 8:44:10 GMT
As long as you can aim and reload cancel its a friggen hand claymore. This. Easy one of my favorite pistols. Not one of those overpowered lolEasyWinUR-Pistols. Most used on QFE after I got inspired (and amazed) by MasterReefas Plat run.
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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 7, 2016 9:00:40 GMT
Executioner is a cool name and I like the 2 magazine build with devastator. I even use respecs some time to switch RoF and magazine evos, so I can go and smirk when I shoot the gun.
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Post by spacev3gan on Sept 7, 2016 9:37:06 GMT
I love the Executioner and I think it works wonder on the Female Quarian Infiltrator. The dual-shot Executioner is also total badassery on the N7 Destroyer.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 10:34:18 GMT
P-twangggg.
I liked the executioner pistol in that bit in the Citadel DLC, as it was the only thing you could use at one point if I remember right. I'm not a good enough shot to be consistent with it in MP though, but I think it can be a beast when done right.
I find the GPSMG ok I suppose.
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Post by patrickbateman on Sept 7, 2016 11:16:20 GMT
Executioner now and then with the QFI and the GPSMG now on then with the GI or GE for some variation in relaxed Gold games, never understood why some people only keep bringing the most broken OP guns into Gold.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2016 11:26:50 GMT
Executioner now and then with the QFI and the GPSMG now on then with the GI or GE for some variation in relaxed Gold games, never understood why some people only keep bringing the most broken OP guns into Gold. Seeing my name on top and 100k more then second place gives me a better hardon than viagra.
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Post by BountyhunterGER on Sept 7, 2016 11:32:28 GMT
I love the Executioner when I have some powers I can use for the shields (overload - headshot - overload - headshot).. otherwise: no.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Sept 7, 2016 11:36:37 GMT
As long as you can aim and reload cancel its a friggen hand claymore. Indeed. There would appear to be a lot of people with L2P issues in this thread. Neither gun is top tier, or even close, but the Executioner Pistol can be absolutely fine on the CS-spamming TSol, as the rhythm is perfect for reload-cancelling, Destroyer - as a must-try experience in the game, BF3 Soldier, Human Engineer or Huntress. It does miss shots off-host, but then what doesn't from time to time? As for the GPSMG, everything Arkhne says about the GPR being better is objectively true, but as someone who frequently runs low on AR amps, but never ever low on SMG amps, I use the GPSMG on the GE regularly, and fire explode all the things. It's not quite glorious, but it's certainly a lot of fun, and effective enough for Plat if you're prepared to spend all your TCPs. You have to be specced for full Geth weapon damage, obviously, including SMG Gear, for it to be most effective. And you have to be careful with the ramp-up, but that is just a L2P issue, irrespective of your views on bad game design.
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Post by GruntKitterhand on Sept 7, 2016 11:38:46 GMT
P-twangggg. I liked the executioner pistol in that bit in the Citadel DLC, as it was the only thing you could use at one point if I remember right. I'm not a good enough shot to be consistent with it in MP though, but I think it can be a beast when done right. I find the GPSMG ok I suppose. Is it not the Suppressor? After the fish tank episode? Not sure myself.
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