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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 6, 2017 12:55:12 GMT
Read the posters post again. He would harvest those who deserve it. So anyone who commits a crime, depending on the severity of the crime, is going to be harvested. You seem to be ok with that. The galaxy lives in fear. That doesn't happen with destroy. You have pulled something that is common with you. Having a problem accepting that others do not agree with you. It frustrates you. It shows in the posts you create. Yet the basis of your complain is Shepard decides who lives and dies and the galaxy lives in fear from it. Well guess what the galaxy already has people who decide who lives and dies. Aria for example if she wants someone dead on Omega they will die. If the STG think that someone is trouble and needs to be eliminated they will kill them. When the Krogan were rebelling the Turian Hierarchy decided to use the Genophage which would dictate the Krogan on who would live or die. My question was how is this any different then post control Shepard and how are these people better to choose then post control Shepard. And you side stepped it. You don't frustrate me you amuse me to no end because such simple questions you seem incapable of answering. Because you seem to be acting much like that guy that got in a twitter fight with Wendy's over how their burger's would have to be frozen. Because the only other option was them being delivered uncooked and hot. Then tried to deflect it by bringing Mc D's breakfast into the argument because they forgot that refrigerators exist. No little fest I could never be frustrated with you. Not when your entire view of the game can be taken down with simple basic questions that you deflect and refuse to answer. I look forward to your replies because they always bring a smile to my face when you can't answer simple questions because that really says all that needs to be said. As for others on this forum it really is an interesting read. So much so that my original opinion of the Council and their actions that I first thought was stupid in the way they act have now made me realize they are the single most realistic thing in the entire trilogy. They represent the human condition down to a T. And the funny I mean deep belly laughing funny part is that I'm willing to discuss and debate my opinions and ideas about the trilogy. You and some others are not and seem to get upset and frustrated that someone disagrees with you.
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Post by themikefest on May 6, 2017 13:14:06 GMT
Interesting that you mention I get frustrated. I'm not the one who belittles people. I'm not the one who insults people. I'm not the one who makes threats to people. I'm not the one who makes analogies that has nothing to do with nothing nor make analogies that are disturbing. You have done all that. Even on the other forum you did that. Why don't you go through all your posts. You'll see that when someone doesn't agree you make a post showing your frustration by doing the things I mentioned.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 13:38:23 GMT
Which is probably why I stated somewhere in this thread (or another one also discussing this) that I don't necessarily trust Shepard running things. I can't see an upside to harvesting. Just seems evil to me. I don't want to get into the real world parallels but I don't think any one person is qualified to decide that a group of people ought to be harvested. Of course I know what you mean, I was being ironic ...no one should ever be allowed to control the Reapers, I'll just make an exception for myself of course. And if people piss me off, they will be harvested. I mean, I have to make plain who's God now, don't I?
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The first rule of BSN: any discussion of ME3's ending inevitably collapses into this
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Post by dmc1001 on May 6, 2017 14:28:32 GMT
Read the posters post again. He would harvest those who deserve it. So anyone who commits a crime, depending on the severity of the crime, is going to be harvested. You seem to be ok with that. The galaxy lives in fear. That doesn't happen with destroy. You have pulled something that is common with you. Having a problem accepting that others do not agree with you. It frustrates you. It shows in the posts you create. All our opinions aside, this is the MOST ACCURATE THING said in this thread.
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The first rule of BSN: any discussion of ME3's ending inevitably collapses into this Not doing that again.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 6, 2017 15:13:24 GMT
The first rule of BSN: any discussion of ME3's ending inevitably collapses into this It's less a discussion and more of "someone makes a brief comment and gets hit with three long paragraphs telling us how we're wrong and we need to prove our opinion is 100% accurate". Oh, and analogies that hold up in the minds of precisely one person. RobtheRobber, in contrast, is pretty good at it. He knows exactly what he's talking about with his control/harvest idea. He's not looking for people to say "you HAVE to accept it" because, frankly, we don't. It's his game, his headcanon, so what business is it of mine how he works it out? I can state why it doesn't work for me but HIS GAME DOESN'T HAVE TO WORK FOR ME. That's the beauty of having our own individual games and, inevitably, our own headcanon about where it goes post-slideshow. I always find it ridiculous when people try to tell me I can't work out my own game in my own way.
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Post by Dr. Vanity on May 6, 2017 16:36:56 GMT
I always find it ridiculous when people try to tell me I can't work out my own game in my own way.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 18:33:54 GMT
The first rule of BSN: any discussion of ME3's ending inevitably collapses into this It's less a discussion and more of "someone makes a brief comment and gets hit with three long paragraphs telling us how we're wrong and we need to prove our opinion is 100% accurate". Oh, and analogies that hold up in the minds of precisely one person. RobtheRobber, in contrast, is pretty good at it. He knows exactly what he's talking about with his control/harvest idea. He's not looking for people to say "you HAVE to accept it" because, frankly, we don't. It's his game, his headcanon, so what business is it of mine how he works it out? I can state why it doesn't work for me but HIS GAME DOESN'T HAVE TO WORK FOR ME. That's the beauty of having our own individual games and, inevitably, our own headcanon about where it goes post-slideshow. I always find it ridiculous when people try to tell me I can't work out my own game in my own way. Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2017 19:26:54 GMT
Poll needs another option - No canon ending. The return to the galaxy so far into the future and with an interceding disaster that makes any decision made by Shepard completely irrelevant (that is - regardless of ending chosen, new synthetics are created that eventually seek to destroy their creators... and they succeed. If synthesis - this boils down to Catalyst had it wrong and there is no "happily ever after" utopia for either organics, synthetics, or some merger of the two). There should then be all new post-apocalypic species within the Milky Way. Only survivors of the old species are the ones who descend from those who made the trip to Andromeda. Basically, what they return to is unrecognizable from the galaxy they left.
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Post by Dr. Vanity on May 6, 2017 20:06:07 GMT
I'd also add "Make Up a New Ending" as an option. I think it worked pretty well for Deus Ex Human Revolution, the fanbase seemed to have liked the decision to override the original 3 (pretty bad) endings.
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Post by themikefest on May 6, 2017 20:18:11 GMT
I'd also add "Make Up a New Ending" as an option. I think it worked pretty well for Deus Ex Human Revolution, the fanbase seemed to have liked the decision to override the original 3 (pretty bad) endings. I've never played that game, but that's alright that the fans got a new ending I've mentioned a few times that after the coup, Hackett says that its believed the crucible has enough energy to destroy the reapers.They didn't know how that energy would be dispersed. Once the arms to the citadel arm fully opened, the crucible fires its bag of goodies all over the galaxy destroying the reapers. No need to have the other stuff. Or instead of destroying the reapers, it changes the reapers programming causing them to stop the harvest. A few moments later, the reapers are seen flying back to darkspace. What both do is leave open for a possible sequel to find out why the reapers did what they did. I'll leave it up to Bioware which one they want to use
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Post by Dr. Vanity on May 6, 2017 20:27:37 GMT
Well, we have the explanation from the Leviathan's about why the Reapers were made, why they came to the conclusion their method made sense is TBD. Partly I think its because they abandoned the Dark Energy plotline ME2 kept hinting at.
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Post by themikefest on May 6, 2017 20:54:02 GMT
Leviathan is a dlc that came out 6 months after the release of ME3. If Bioware were to do what I posted, Leviathan could be included in a sequel to help explain why the reapers did what they did
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 6, 2017 21:38:35 GMT
Interesting that you mention I get frustrated. I'm not the one who belittles people. I'm not the one who insults people. I'm not the one who makes threats to people. I'm not the one who makes analogies that has nothing to do with nothing nor make analogies that are disturbing. You have done all that. Even on the other forum you did that. Why don't you go through all your posts. You'll see that when someone doesn't agree you make a post showing your frustration by doing the things I mentioned. Comparative morality is always an interesting tangent because it is less someone throwing a rock and more someone throwing a boomerange that comes back and hits them in the face because they are never as nice as they think they are. But it is a tangent none the less and you continue to avoid responding to the simple question.
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Post by themikefest on May 6, 2017 21:41:11 GMT
You proved my point. The truth hurts, doesn't it?
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 6, 2017 21:54:13 GMT
The first rule of BSN: any discussion of ME3's ending inevitably collapses into this It's less a discussion and more of "someone makes a brief comment and gets hit with three long paragraphs telling us how we're wrong and we need to prove our opinion is 100% accurate". Oh, and analogies that hold up in the minds of precisely one person. RobtheRobber, in contrast, is pretty good at it. He knows exactly what he's talking about with his control/harvest idea. He's not looking for people to say "you HAVE to accept it" because, frankly, we don't. It's his game, his headcanon, so what business is it of mine how he works it out? I can state why it doesn't work for me but HIS GAME DOESN'T HAVE TO WORK FOR ME. That's the beauty of having our own individual games and, inevitably, our own headcanon about where it goes post-slideshow. I always find it ridiculous when people try to tell me I can't work out my own game in my own way. No I simply ask simple questions to statements made and people like you ignore them or go on a tirade about me because I actually am willing to debate my ideas and concepts. You continue to amuse me. Because I can create a paragraph about why I think something makes sense or doesn't make sense and in return all you can replay with is that it is your opinion. And the really amusing thing is that there are such things as facts in the game. Things that are explicitly said or done are hard facts. And people like to ignore or warp those facts as they see fit. And when I point out that someone is being contrary to something explicitly said in game they like you get fussy over it. When Legion directly tells you that the Geth went to the Reapers due to the interdependence on each other being exploited as the weakness it is by the Quarians then later by the Reapers. You can not then claim the Geth were going against their originally stated ideology from ME 2. Because the game explicitly says that if they maintained that then they would have been wiped by the Reapers or rendered to stupid to be able to help. You can not then say that the Geth are abandoning their ideology for no reason and simply trying to be more human like because that is what the writers wanted for no reason. In fact in addition to the simple question I have asked themikefest about who gets to decide who dies pre Control ending and how they are a better option. I have asked several other people very simple questions when they complain about the Geth which they have not responded to. How many lives are an ideology worth? But please by all means keep riding that high horse Mr. Pot. My name is kettle.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 6, 2017 21:54:53 GMT
You proved my point. The truth hurts, doesn't it? Still avoiding answering my question. I'm going to have to start filling in the blanks myself soon.
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Post by themikefest on May 6, 2017 22:04:48 GMT
You don't get it do you? Why would people want to answer your questions when you insult them, belittle them or say your speculation/opinion makes more sense and theirs doesn't?
Since its bothering you I don't answer your question, why haven't you answered my question or other questions that people that have asked you? Some of those questions are what does your analogies have to do with ME? Especially the ones that are disturbing? I guess I'm going to have to start filling in the blanks
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Post by Dr. Vanity on May 6, 2017 22:09:56 GMT
You don't get it do you? Why would people want to answer your questions when you insult them, belittle them or say your speculation/opinion makes more sense and theirs doesn't? Since its bothering you I don't answer your question, why haven't you answered my question or other questions that people that have asked you? Some of those questions are what does your analogies have to do with ME? Especially the ones that are disturbing? I guess I'm going to have to start filling in the blanks, Most of us don't take him seriously. Me triply so after that one analogy that got deleted over in the other threads.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 6, 2017 22:58:21 GMT
You don't get it do you? Why would people want to answer your questions when you insult them, belittle them or say your speculation/opinion makes more sense and theirs doesn't? Since its bothering you I don't answer your question, why haven't you answered my question or other questions that people that have asked you? Some of those questions are what does your analogies have to do with ME? Especially the ones that are disturbing? I guess I'm going to have to start filling in the blanks Insult, belittle me in return it really doesn't bother me. Because I can't care less about what a random person on the internet thinks of me. My skin is not so thin nor my ego so easily bruised that someone being mean to me on a forum some how upsets me. Everything I do I fully expect to receive in return. If it makes you feel better start every reply to me by calling me a raging ass hole. Make comments about how poor my hygiene is or how stupid you think I am. Unload both barrels on me I won't even flinch the only problem might be a Forum Mod popping in and saying to stop it but that would be of their own free will to do so. I have answered all questions people ask me. Part of the reason you guys dislike me because I will go into great detail if given the option to about stuff. The analogies are there to elaborate on my logic by using real world examples that people could more easily picture to understand what I am saying. The Hulk Hogan clone bit was to emphasis my statement that visual looks of the Reaper troops is almost pointless when talking about their physiological effect. They are not some physically horrifying entity that would frighten everyone simply by how they look. Because they look so inhuman they are no longer scary and much easier to kill. The fact they are mindless enemies that will attack and attack and attack until everyone is dead is far more physiologically effecting people then their physical looks alone. Replace husks with Hulk Hogan and you would still get the same effects regardless of visual look of Reaper troops. Shock is because I personally don't find them shocking at all because I'm such a jaded pessimistic ass hole who sees the world as every ounce of good in it there is about 1 ton of shit. But even disregarding that it gets results. Go to the extreme and people pay attention to what you say. If it is shocking to you well then welcome to the real world. Every second of every day someone some were is murdered, raped, sold into slavery, abused, starved to death, died of drug over dose, etc, etc. And if what I say shocks you then it only shows how sheltered or ignorant you are of the joys and wonder of our race. Ignorance is truly bliss. And my views are most likely the reason why I take to synthesis so well because it offers a chance for us to transcend from the shit hole race we are now into what we always could have been but are to self centered and self obsessed to every become on our own. Have I answered all your questions?
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Post by themikefest on May 6, 2017 23:14:17 GMT
Most of us don't take him seriously. Me triply so after that one analogy that got deleted over in the other threads. I don't either. I remember when he joined BSN however long ago. He hasn't changed much. He's had a lot of his posts removed because of what he's posted on that forum. Even on this forum, folks would reply to one of his posts, and they ended up being talked down or insulted in some way. I read his post above. At least its something to laugh at.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on May 6, 2017 23:28:22 GMT
Most of us don't take him seriously. Me triply so after that one analogy that got deleted over in the other threads. I don't either. I remember when he joined BSN however long ago. He hasn't changed much. He's had a lot of his posts removed because of what he's posted on that forum. Even on this forum, folks would reply to one of his posts, and they ended up being talked down or insulted in some way. I read his post above. At least its something to laugh at. Neither have you. I have answered your questions now answer mine.
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Post by Dr. Vanity on May 7, 2017 0:31:14 GMT
Most of us don't take him seriously. Me triply so after that one analogy that got deleted over in the other threads. I don't either. I remember when he joined BSN however long ago. He hasn't changed much. He's had a lot of his posts removed because of what he's posted on that forum. Even on this forum, folks would reply to one of his posts, and they ended up being talked down or insulted in some way. I read his post above. At least its something to laugh at. Ah the old forums, that was when I was just "Vanity," now i'm a jaded Dr. Vanity. Good times though, The Angry One still about? They were a frequenter on a lot of threads from what I remember. I need to dig out my old Dwarven Noble Dragon Age avatar I used to rock.
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Post by themikefest on May 7, 2017 0:41:16 GMT
Ah the old forums, that was when I was just "Vanity," now i'm a jaded Dr. Vanity. Good times though, The Angry One still about? They were a frequenter on a lot of threads from what I remember. I need to dig out my old Dwarven Noble Dragon Age avatar I used to rock. If The Angry One is on this forum, its under a different username.
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