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Post by Catilina on Jun 16, 2017 11:40:05 GMT
Fenris, because voting once isn't enough! He is so single minded in his cause, that he is willing to watch the world burn because of it. He manipulates Hawke into helping him destroy innocent lives, without regard to their wishes or Hawke's thoughts about it. Loyalty to a cause is great, but volunteering others to die because of it, especially en masse, not so much. I think you answered my question. You can say, that Anders is single-minded, yes. This is why I said: he has many flaws, but he's not selfish. True, in Kirkwall, he was forced to be single-minded: Kirkwall was the centrum of his problems. (Fenris seems more open-minded, but I'm curious, if we would in the centrum of slave trading, Fenris would more open-minded to a peaceful solution with them... For example, to prove to them that slaves are good people, and deserve freedom, as the stupid rival!Hawke advised to Anders.) He lies and tries to manipulate Hawke, because his cause important to him, and can't trust anyone. He has very bad experiences with trust, he shouldn't risk his cause with trust, I understand him. And he doesn't break up with Hawke, if Hawke refuses to help him. One thing, why he able to break up/doesn't able to start the romance, if Hawke let sloth demon to possess Fenyriel. The Chantry destroyed much more innocent lives, than Anders (if course, the Chantry destroyed lives according to the Chantry's own law, so: the Chantry is right, because destroying people with "lawful" tools is right thing). A war required lives, and he tried to find peaceful solutions, Elthina caused the war.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 16, 2017 16:54:40 GMT
İf you pick romances based on the plot I believe you romanced Morrigan in origins and Solas in Inquisition amirite? I love plot-important romances, but I also prefer to like the character I romance as well and for romance to happen as the events unfold, within the important quests, rather than asides in a castle/ship/campfire. I romanced Alistair (and Zevran after he became unavailable due to his duties) in Origins and Dorian in Inquisition. I would romance Solas, but playing a female elf is just not appealing to me in Inquisition (I would in DA and DA2) and the romance is too short to truly qualify as plot-important. I was looking more towards anticipating DA4 in my PT, I guess. A Qunari + Dorian. Same here. Being plot relevant definitely is a factor that can influence my choice, but if I don't enjoy the romance I won't choose it as canon.
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Post by ninjanightngale on Jun 17, 2017 0:02:51 GMT
He is so single minded in his cause, that he is willing to watch the world burn because of it. He manipulates Hawke into helping him destroy innocent lives, without regard to their wishes or Hawke's thoughts about it. Loyalty to a cause is great, but volunteering others to die because of it, especially en masse, not so much. I think you answered my question. You can say, that Anders is single-minded, yes. This is why I said: he has many flaws, but he's not selfish. True, in Kirkwall, he was forced to be single-minded: Kirkwall was the centrum of his problems. (Fenris seems more open-minded, but I'm curious, if we would in the centrum of slave trading, Fenris would more open-minded to a peaceful solution with them... For example, to prove to them that slaves are good people, and deserve freedom, as the stupid rival!Hawke advised to Anders.) He lies and tries to manipulate Hawke, because his cause important to him, and can't trust anyone. He has very bad experiences with trust, he shouldn't risk his cause with trust, I understand him. And he doesn't break up with Hawke, if Hawke refuses to help him. One thing, why he able to break up/doesn't able to start the romance, if Hawke let sloth demon to possess Fenyriel. The Chantry destroyed much more innocent lives, than Anders (if course, the Chantry destroyed lives according to the Chantry's own law, so: the Chantry is right, because destroying people with "lawful" tools is right thing). A war required lives, and he tried to find peaceful solutions, Elthina caused the war. It was yours I answered, but I was doing so from my phone :/ I won't disagree that the Chantry was the original cause; Elthina wanted peace on all sides though, and Anders even made it clear that wasn't an option in his book. He wasn't willing to speak with Elthina, to see where she was coming from. He wasn't willing to consider how other Circles worked, and how to enact change from the inside. I'm sure a lot of this was the influence of Justice, but even Anders made mention that it was his own anger that changed Justice, not the other way around. No, he doesn't break up with Hawke, but he is kind of a whiny ass about it if Hawke doesn't help. And frankly, lots of people have trust issues. Anders' trust issue wasn't Hawke's fault. I'm not sure how Fenris would have reacted if this involved slavery, but I think my Hawke would have also been against slavery just like she was against imprisoning mages. I suppose it also all depends on how each story arc is played out, but I don't think I can ever be down with Anders. If I ever romance anyone other than Fenris, It's probably gonna be Isabella.
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Post by Catilina on Jun 17, 2017 0:36:09 GMT
I think you answered my question.
You can say, that Anders is single-minded, yes. This is why I said: he has many flaws, but he's not selfish. True, in Kirkwall, he was forced to be single-minded: Kirkwall was the centrum of his problems. (Fenris seems more open-minded, but I'm curious, if we would in the centrum of slave trading, Fenris would more open-minded to a peaceful solution with them... For example, to prove to them that slaves are good people, and deserve freedom, as the stupid rival!Hawke advised to Anders.) He lies and tries to manipulate Hawke, because his cause important to him, and can't trust anyone. He has very bad experiences with trust, he shouldn't risk his cause with trust, I understand him. And he doesn't break up with Hawke, if Hawke refuses to help him. One thing, why he able to break up/doesn't able to start the romance, if Hawke let sloth demon to possess Fenyriel.
The Chantry destroyed much more innocent lives, than Anders (if course, the Chantry destroyed lives according to the Chantry's own law, so: the Chantry is right, because destroying people with "lawful" tools is right thing). A war required lives, and he tried to find peaceful solutions, Elthina caused the war. It was yours I answered, but I was doing so from my phone :/
I won't disagree that the Chantry was the original cause; Elthina wanted peace on all sides though, and Anders even made it clear that wasn't an option in his book. He wasn't willing to speak with Elthina, to see where she was coming from. He wasn't willing to consider how other Circles worked, and how to enact change from the inside. I'm sure a lot of this was the influence of Justice, but even Anders made mention that it was his own anger that changed Justice, not the other way around. No, he doesn't break up with Hawke, but he is kind of a whiny ass about it if Hawke doesn't help. And frankly, lots of people have trust issues. Anders' trust issue wasn't Hawke's fault. I'm not sure how Fenris would have reacted if this involved slavery, but I think my Hawke would have also been against slavery just like she was against imprisoning mages. I suppose it also all depends on how each story arc is played out, but I don't think I can ever be down with Anders. If I ever romance anyone other than Fenris, It's probably gonna be Isabella. If Elthina would want peace, and she would have ANY little benevolence toward the mages, she would kick Meredith (or at least would request her replace), but she didn't such a thing, in fact, she did nothing, despite she knew Meredith's violations of the Chantry's law. So: Elthina was a total idiot, or totally malevolent. Rival!Hawke is an idiot, if s/he believe, that there is a chance to speak with her, and/or Meredith. (I saw the video about Anders' rivalry, the "convince" scene was pathetic. I even can't imagine, why rival!Hawke helps him in the Elthina quest.) The Circles in that form are inherently evil, there is no chance to change, only option to demolish the whole system and rebuild in a different way. And Anders tried to find a peaceful solution for 7 years. His last try was, when he asked Hawke, that should speak with her, about the mages to give her a chance to change her mind (when he ask Hawke to help distract Elthina – Act3, after Justice quest). Anders trust problems were absolutely NOT (friendly) Hawke's fault. These are absolutely the Chantry's fault. I never said, that this is (friendly) Hawke's fault. (Anders wanted this rebellion, just as Justice, he knew, what he wanted, when they merged.) But you're right Isabela never ever could able to be selfish... But I heard, her romance is very good, friendship and rivalry both, what not working with Anders. What's your problem with Merrill?
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jul 14, 2017 16:52:04 GMT
Anders is a great romance for mage Hawke - very emotional and heart-wrenching at times. He really comes across as a jerk quite a bit towards the end of the game, but there's a gentler side of him you see in a romance. It's sad if you romance and then kill him, very sad.
I like Isabela for a less soul-crushing romance.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 14, 2017 17:38:50 GMT
Anders is a great romance for mage Hawke - very emotional and heart-wrenching at times. He really comes across as a jerk quite a bit towards the end of the game, but there's a gentler side of him you see in a romance. It's sad if you romance and then kill him, very sad. I like Isabela for a less soul-crushing romance. Anders' friendship romance with a supportive Hawke is the most romantic romance in game ever. It's not heart-breaking: two outlaws going from Circle to Circle and set the world on fire for freedom. This is the best moment in Inquisition, when Hawke speaks about it. I did Anders romance as a warrior too, and this is a bit different feeling (It's worth to try), than as a mage. As a mage, they are buddies, brothers, as a warrior, Hawke can try to understand and feel him, and to protect him. I don't know, which version I liked better. I never killed him in romance. I prefer the happy end. And never tried the rivalry romance. His rivalry romance is terrible. Yes, at the end he's even more impatient and rude, and lose his charm and humour. Because he's a "normal" man, who prepare some terrible thing. Just think about it: a psychopath would behave "normally", I think.
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jul 14, 2017 18:18:30 GMT
Anders is a great romance for mage Hawke - very emotional and heart-wrenching at times. He really comes across as a jerk quite a bit towards the end of the game, but there's a gentler side of him you see in a romance. It's sad if you romance and then kill him, very sad. I like Isabela for a less soul-crushing romance. Anders' friendship romance with a supportive Hawke is the most romantic romance in game ever. It's not heart-breaking: two outlaws going from Circle to Circle and set the world on fire for freedom. This is the best moment in Inquisition, when Hawke speaks about it. I did Anders romance as a warrior too, and this is a bit different feeling (It's worth to try), than as a mage. As a mage, they are buddies, brothers, as a warrior, Hawke can try to understand and feel him, and to protect him. I don't know, which version I liked better. I never killed him in romance. I prefer the happy end. And never tried the rivalry romance. His rivalry romance is terrible. Yes, at the end he's even more impatient and rude, and lose his charm and humour. Because he's a "normal" man, who prepare some terrible thing. Just think about it: a psychopath would behave "normally", I think. I romanced him as a friend, but I had to do him in, unfortunately. I was totally for the mages, but when he blew up the chantry I had the same reaction as Orsino. When you tell him he has to pay for what he's done, Anders agrees and says "For what it's worth, I'm glad it's you. It was nice to be happy for a while." That got to me, and to Hawke to, judging by Inquisition.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 14, 2017 18:39:33 GMT
Anders' friendship romance with a supportive Hawke is the most romantic romance in game ever. It's not heart-breaking: two outlaws going from Circle to Circle and set the world on fire for freedom. This is the best moment in Inquisition, when Hawke speaks about it. I did Anders romance as a warrior too, and this is a bit different feeling (It's worth to try), than as a mage. As a mage, they are buddies, brothers, as a warrior, Hawke can try to understand and feel him, and to protect him. I don't know, which version I liked better. I never killed him in romance. I prefer the happy end. And never tried the rivalry romance. His rivalry romance is terrible. Yes, at the end he's even more impatient and rude, and lose his charm and humour. Because he's a "normal" man, who prepare some terrible thing. Just think about it: a psychopath would behave "normally", I think. I romanced him as a friend, but I had to do him in, unfortunately. I was totally for the mages, but when he blew up the chantry I had the same reaction as Orsino. When you tell him he has to pay for what he's done, Anders agrees and says "For what it's worth, I'm glad it's you. It was nice to be happy for a while." That got to me, and to Hawke to, judging by Inquisition. Everyone's shocked at the moment (even Anders), not only Orsino. Orsino was a broken person, just as (almost?) everyone in the Circle. But I agree with Anders: "We are already doomed". There no exists a peaceful solution. And the Inquisition's story justified him: the Circles rebelled finally. The Chantry committed the crime for a thousand years, Anders was the reaction. In Inquisition every Hawke speak differently: who supported him and stayed together, said that version, what I wrote. Who killed him/not supported him, said that "Anders" perhaps never existed, just that idiot, who killed people (or something similar). I prefer the first one. It depend on the viewpoint: I see him, as a revolutioner, most of the people see him as a crazy mass murderer. He doesn't want to die, but accepts the death sentence, and the murder happened, many people died. I agree, this is a very good moment. And shows, that worth to spare his life. And so beautiful, how he speaks about the future he's full of hope. (And Bethany similarly.) Not mentioned, how satisfying to send Sebastian to the abyss and later, in Inquisition to send Cullen's army to help Aveline to save Kirkwall from Sebastian's vengeance...
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Post by HYR on Jul 15, 2017 3:45:08 GMT
Isabela is the only decent one, IMO.
I probably sound like the stereotypical *straight dude rn (durr, obviouhsly the hot wun!)...
But what can I say? The rest are so bleh that it's pretty much just a numbers game/POE,
--> Fenris: not emotionally mature enough -- not his fault, but not mine either. That said he is my LI for canon FemHawke, but I do so more for the effect of playing up Hawke as a sexy femme-fatale goddess than me liking his romance arc, or even them as a couple (it's a decent ship, but she can do better). --> Terribl: this romance is basically pedophilia; also, she ruins the Dalish so F her. --> SeaBass: LOLOLOL, no sex even after marriage?? Even Russell Wilson isn't this corny. --> Anders: the guy should not be a party member to begin with; I felt this way even as a koolaid-sippin' supporter of mage freedom.
For a while I did not like Isabela's either, but I warmed up to it. Don't get me wrong, it's still kind of ridiculous (Hawke asks about love after what was clearly a one-night romp, then she flips seemingly out of nowhere), but then it's kind of rewarding to see her really come around to you. She makes up for the initial Ice Queen crap a lot better than Morrigan.
*I'd say my orientation actually may be best described as pansexual or heteroflexible; I'd go gay for an exceptionally good male LI, like Kaidan from ME.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 15, 2017 8:41:59 GMT
Isabela is the only decent one, IMO.
I probably sound like the stereotypical *straight dude rn (durr, obviouhsly the hot wun!)...
But what can I say? The rest are so bleh that it's pretty much just a numbers game/POE,
--> Fenris: not emotionally mature enough -- not his fault, but not mine either. That said he is my LI for canon FemHawke, but I do so more for the effect of playing up Hawke as a sexy femme-fatale goddess than me liking his romance arc, or even them as a couple (it's a decent ship, but she can do better). --> Terribl: this romance is basically pedophilia; also, she ruins the Dalish so F her. --> SeaBass: LOLOLOL, no sex even after marriage?? Even Russell Wilson isn't this corny. --> Anders: the guy should not be a party member to begin with; I felt this way even as a koolaid-sippin' supporter of mage freedom.
For a while I did not like Isabela's either, but I warmed up to it. Don't get me wrong, it's still kind of ridiculous (Hawke asks about love after what was clearly a one-night romp, then she flips seemingly out of nowhere), but then it's kind of rewarding to see her really come around to you. She makes up for the initial Ice Queen crap a lot better than Morrigan.
*I'd say my orientation actually may be best described as pansexual or heteroflexible; I'd go gay for an exceptionally good male LI, like Kaidan from ME.
How? Merrill's ~20, when Hawke meets with her, and ~23, when the romance fulfill. Okay, she's the youngest, but still not a child. (Isabela 30+, Fenris 25+, Anders 32? at the first meet. Hawke ~25.)
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Post by fylimar on Jul 15, 2017 9:18:20 GMT
Isabela is the only decent one, IMO.
I probably sound like the stereotypical *straight dude rn (durr, obviouhsly the hot wun!)...
But what can I say? The rest are so bleh that it's pretty much just a numbers game/POE,
--> Fenris: not emotionally mature enough -- not his fault, but not mine either. That said he is my LI for canon FemHawke, but I do so more for the effect of playing up Hawke as a sexy femme-fatale goddess than me liking his romance arc, or even them as a couple (it's a decent ship, but she can do better). --> Terribl: this romance is basically pedophilia; also, she ruins the Dalish so F her. --> SeaBass: LOLOLOL, no sex even after marriage?? Even Russell Wilson isn't this corny. --> Anders: the guy should not be a party member to begin with; I felt this way even as a koolaid-sippin' supporter of mage freedom.
For a while I did not like Isabela's either, but I warmed up to it. Don't get me wrong, it's still kind of ridiculous (Hawke asks about love after what was clearly a one-night romp, then she flips seemingly out of nowhere), but then it's kind of rewarding to see her really come around to you. She makes up for the initial Ice Queen crap a lot better than Morrigan.
*I'd say my orientation actually may be best described as pansexual or heteroflexible; I'd go gay for an exceptionally good male LI, like Kaidan from ME.
How? Merrill's ~20, when Hawke meets with her, and ~23, when the romance fulfill. Okay, she's the youngest, but still not a child. (Isabela 30+, Fenris 25+, Anders 32? at the first meet. Hawke ~25.) He is right though - Merrill looks like a child. I never did the romance nor am I planning too. But if I would consider romancing Merrill, I would have to look for a more mature head morph, otherwise, it would just creep me out.
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Post by Pokemario on Jul 15, 2017 10:30:20 GMT
I think that the overall best romance in DA2 is Merrill's, though Anders' feels like the most plot-centered one.
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Post by HYR on Jul 15, 2017 12:48:29 GMT
How? Merrill's ~20, when Hawke meets with her, and ~23, when the romance fulfill. Okay, she's the youngest, but still not a child. (Isabela 30+, Fenris 25+, Anders 32? at the first meet. Hawke ~25.) He is right though - Merrill looks like a child. I never did the romance nor am I planning too. But if I would consider romancing Merrill, I would have to look for a more mature head morph, otherwise, it would just creep me out. This. She also sounds like one. And acts like one. It's like ME1 Liara, but worse.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 15, 2017 13:01:04 GMT
He is right though - Merrill looks like a child. I never did the romance nor am I planning too. But if I would consider romancing Merrill, I would have to look for a more mature head morph, otherwise, it would just creep me out. This. She also sounds like one. And acts like one. It's like ME1 Liara, but worse. She can't handle people and live in her own world, but she's not childish. She's rather an absent-minded scholar, than a child (Liara too...).
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Post by azuremazey on Jul 15, 2017 14:18:11 GMT
I've been replaying all the Dragon Age games again, and making them into series. Like a Lady of Blades trilogy, where each protagonist is a human rogue who romanced a warrior. Now on Mage Lover. It's been hard not to romance Fenris, he was my favorite in the 2nd game.
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Post by HYR on Jul 16, 2017 4:36:24 GMT
This. She also sounds like one. And acts like one. It's like ME1 Liara, but worse. She can't handle people and live in her own world, but she's not childish. Literally neither of the former contradicts the latter. Again, the first thing does not contradict the second thing.
She is "just" an absent-minded scholar who is pint-sized, shrill-voiced, naiive and foolish even before we get into the Blood Magic part of her character. Face it, she's paedo fetish. If that kink appeals to some players, cool, but it's not for me.
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Post by fylimar on Jul 16, 2017 8:28:01 GMT
This. She also sounds like one. And acts like one. It's like ME1 Liara, but worse. She can't handle people and live in her own world, but she's not childish. She's rather an absent-minded scholar, than a child (Liara too...). It's not the not handling people etc., it's the fact, that the character looks like a child - I was so put off by this. Merrill looks like a fourteen, maybe fifteen year old girl - far too young to get seduced by a mid twenty woman or man. The sad thing is, Merrill in DAO looks like a grown up woman. Maybe they should have stayed with that concept a bit more. Merrill being childish is another thing -and yes, she is being childish, I don't see an absent-minded scholar when I see her, I see a child, that stomps her foot and cries, when she doesn't get, what she wants. Isabella is childish in her own way too, but at least she looks, like I can legally romance her
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Post by Catilina on Jul 16, 2017 10:59:37 GMT
HYR , fylimar : I never saw her as a child, but ofc, this is just a feeling, and feelings can hardly be argued, I just said, that I always see her as a "scholar", who is just one thing interested in, and when she comes out from her own world, she just wonders, yes, like a child, but this doesn't make her child. It was a disappointment, that how easily the demon deceived her, I think, this was a bullshit, so: I will not take her in the Fade anymore... Maybe she looks like a young teen, but not Hawke seduces her, she needs only one innocent flirtatious sentence, and she appears in Hawke's mansion, just as Isabela. (I think, this is an idiot concept, –for Fenris and Anders must confirm that Hawke really wants them, before they appear in the mansion– since then I experienced, I don't say one flirtatious sentence to her. Quite uncomfortable to send her away.) Many elves look like a child, because they are little and doesn't have a normal body (especially in the Inquisition –I don't like to play as an elf in Inquisition due to this reason–, but Fenris also skinny enough), and they have big eyes. I can agree, that probably some perverts can look at them as a fetish. I do not really find them sexually attractive. (Except Fenris, because of his temperament and voice, but not at first sight – at first sight he was only an annoying boy, carrying a bigger sword than himself, and constantly brooding, while spoke stupid things. Later I heard his stupid things, and realize, that they aren't so stupid, and he's more fun, than I expected and very passionate.)
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Post by fylimar on Jul 16, 2017 11:23:18 GMT
HYR , fylimar : I never saw her as a child, but ofc, this is just a feeling, and feelings can hardly be argued, I just said, that I always see her as a "scholar", who is just one thing interested in, and when she comes out from her own world, she just wonders, yes, like a child, but this doesn't make her child. It was a disappointment, that how easily the demon deceived her, I think, this was a bullshit, so: I will not take her in the Fade anymore... Maybe she looks like a young teen, but not Hawke seduces her, she needs only one innocent flirtatious sentence, and she appears in Hawke's mansion, just as Isabela. (I think, this is an idiot concept, –for Fenris and Anders must confirm that Hawke really wants them, before they appear in the mansion– since then I experienced, I don't say one flirtatious sentence to her. Quite uncomfortable to send her away.) Many elves look like a child, because they are little and doesn't have a normal body (especially in the Inquisition –I don't like to play as an elf in Inquisition due to this reason–, but Fenris also skinny enough), and they have big eyes. I can agree, that probably some perverts can look at them as a fetish. I do not really find them sexually attractive. (Except Fenris, because of his temperament and voice, but not at first sight – at first sight he was only an annoying boy, carrying a bigger sword than himself, and constantly brooding, while spoke stupid things. Later I heard his stupid things, and realize, that they aren't so stupid, and he's more fun, than I expected and very passionate.) Therefore I was carefull to state, that this is my opinion - I don't expect people to agree and I don't think, that people, who like Merrills romance, are pedophiles. Most players already played DAO and know, that merrill is a grown up, I personally am pu off with her childlike appearance though. And yeah, they could make the elves a bit more healthy looking in DA2 and DAI.
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Post by tacsear on Jul 16, 2017 22:35:08 GMT
Maybe she looks like a young teen, but not Hawke seduces her, she needs only one innocent flirtatious sentence, and she appears in Hawke's mansion, just as Isabela. (I think, this is an idiot concept, –for Fenris and Anders must confirm that Hawke really wants them, before they appear in the mansion– since then I experienced, I don't say one flirtatious sentence to her. Quite uncomfortable to send her away.) I think it is a perfect concept for Isabela, I'm really suprised that it took a whole year for Hawke and Isabela to hook up
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:48:47 GMT
(Shrug) I thought DA2 was anime-like in its art style, so no character truly looked old. I did not get a child vibe from Merrill, just a damsel in distress, so I was going to romance her with a knightly character who'd excuse any failing because, well, she is his perfect object of worship/affection etc.
I do get it when the character just feels far too young for comfort, no matter what their chronological age may be, I just don't feel Merrill is.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 16, 2017 22:51:41 GMT
Maybe she looks like a young teen, but not Hawke seduces her, she needs only one innocent flirtatious sentence, and she appears in Hawke's mansion, just as Isabela. (I think, this is an idiot concept, –for Fenris and Anders must confirm that Hawke really wants them, before they appear in the mansion– since then I experienced, I don't say one flirtatious sentence to her. Quite uncomfortable to send her away.) I think it is a perfect concept for Isabela, I'm really suprised that it took a whole year for Hawke and Isabela to hook up Isabela, perhaps. But Merrill? Interesting, I was surprised.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 17, 2017 4:59:54 GMT
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jul 17, 2017 16:42:26 GMT
I think there are a lot of complex feelings involved in a romance between mage Hawke and Anders. On the one hand, the fact they're both apostates seems like a big part of the closeness and attraction between them. On the other hand, though, I found it especially galling that Anders would lie to and manipulate mage Hawke in spite of all that, potentially to trick Hawke into doing something he/she would never choose to do. Then there's the way he frankly sacrificed Kirkwall's mages to his vision of the greater good. Potentially that was sacrificing Hawke as well and neither Hawke nor the other mages ever asked him to make decisions on their behalf.
So yes, it's a great romance, but in a very Dragon Age 2 way for me.
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Post by Catilina on Jul 17, 2017 18:44:46 GMT
I think there are a lot of complex feelings involved in a romance between mage Hawke and Anders. On the one hand, the fact they're both apostates seems like a big part of the closeness and attraction between them. On the other hand, though, I found it especially galling that Anders would lie to and manipulate mage Hawke in spite of all that, potentially to trick Hawke into doing something he/she would never choose to do. Then there's the way he frankly sacrificed Kirkwall's mages to his vision of the greater good. Potentially that was sacrificing Hawke as well and neither Hawke nor the other mages ever asked him to make decisions on their behalf. So yes, it's a great romance, but in a very Dragon Age 2 way for me. On the other hand: Anders worked with the Mage Underground, so: probably he knew some mages' opinion. Perhaps not all, but many. The mages even not wanted the annulment, probably. When Anders exploded the Chantry, Meredith already sent the request for the Right of Annulment to Val Royeaux. Should they just sit on their ass and wait for someone unknown person's benevolence? Bethany finally was happy with the chance of freedom. The Conclave voted for the war. So: Many mages wanted this war. Anders just gives a chance to mages, opened a door, the Mages were, who rebelled.
The nobles in Kirkwall also wanted to rebel against Meredith. Kirkwall already doomed, the question was only: who will set on fire. Anders did. Anders, not an easy case, you're right, his romance could be tragic, bitter or happy. It depends on Hawke's viewpoint. And this is great (Probably the best in game romance ever, true, I understand, that relatively few people love it.)
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