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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2017 20:53:11 GMT
Inquisition and Origins have this thread and why not this one? For me Isabela is by far the best romance and Fenris is pretty cool too
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Post by phoray on May 8, 2017 5:12:05 GMT
The way Anders makes me feel reminds me of some of the toxic relationship I was in wen I was young.
Fenris is more the drama I can handle these days. That grumpy pants.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 12:40:21 GMT
Isabella  can't beat a pirate like her lol
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Anders. Essential for the plot, has tons of dialogue, and the way it was written it makes me feel that Anders indeed has a need to love Hawke & loves Hawke. It's not my favorite video-game romance ever in terms of me as a player being digitally in love with the character (that goes to Thane), nor the easiest to crush on in the first few seconds of screen time (that's Dorian), neither Anders' has the best romantic dialogue I've ever heard (that goes to Bao Dur with his "the longest you have looked at me...") but it's the best romance in terms of two characters' interactions. Hawke and Anders banters in Legacy are top notch. So, Anders, that's why
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Anders. Essential for the plot, has tons of dialogue, and the way it was written it makes me feel that Anders indeed has a need to love Hawke & loves Hawke. It's not my favorite video-game romance ever in terms of me as a player being digitally in love with the character (that goes to Thane), nor the easiest to crush on in the first few seconds of screen time (that's Dorian), neither Anders' has the best romantic dialogue I've ever heard (that goes to Bao Dur with his "the longest you have looked at me...") but it's the best romance in terms of two characters' interactions. Hawke and Anders banters in Legacy are top notch. So, Anders, that's why İf you pick romances based on the plot I believe you romanced Morrigan in origins and Solas in Inquisition amirite?
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2017 13:00:49 GMT
Isabella  can't beat a pirate like her lol Gotta get that pirate booty
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Anders. Essential for the plot, has tons of dialogue, and the way it was written it makes me feel that Anders indeed has a need to love Hawke & loves Hawke. It's not my favorite video-game romance ever in terms of me as a player being digitally in love with the character (that goes to Thane), nor the easiest to crush on in the first few seconds of screen time (that's Dorian), neither Anders' has the best romantic dialogue I've ever heard (that goes to Bao Dur with his "the longest you have looked at me...") but it's the best romance in terms of two characters' interactions. Hawke and Anders banters in Legacy are top notch. So, Anders, that's why İf you pick romances based on the plot I believe you romanced Morrigan in origins and Solas in Inquisition amirite? I love plot-important romances, but I also prefer to like the character I romance as well and for romance to happen as the events unfold, within the important quests, rather than asides in a castle/ship/campfire. I romanced Alistair (and Zevran after he became unavailable due to his duties) in Origins and Dorian in Inquisition. I would romance Solas, but playing a female elf is just not appealing to me in Inquisition (I would in DA and DA2) and the romance is too short to truly qualify as plot-important. I was looking more towards anticipating DA4 in my PT, I guess. A Qunari + Dorian.
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İf you pick romances based on the plot I believe you romanced Morrigan in origins and Solas in Inquisition amirite? I love plot-important romances, but I also prefer to like the character I romance as well and for romance to happen as the events unfold, within the important quests, rather than asides in a castle/ship/campfire. I romanced Alistair (and Zevran after he became unavailable due to his duties) in Origins and Dorian in Inquisition. I would romance Solas, but playing a female elf is just not appealing to me in Inquisition (I would in DA and DA2) and the romance is too short to truly qualify as plot-important. I was looking more towards anticipating DA4 in my PT, I guess. A Qunari + Dorian. My romances generally revolve around female rogues. Leliana Isabela and Josephine. Plot related romances doesn't really appeal to me especially Anders'. I tried his romance once and it made me hate him even more than usual
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I love plot-important romances, but I also prefer to like the character I romance as well and for romance to happen as the events unfold, within the important quests, rather than asides in a castle/ship/campfire. I romanced Alistair (and Zevran after he became unavailable due to his duties) in Origins and Dorian in Inquisition. I would romance Solas, but playing a female elf is just not appealing to me in Inquisition (I would in DA and DA2) and the romance is too short to truly qualify as plot-important. I was looking more towards anticipating DA4 in my PT, I guess. A Qunari + Dorian. My romances generally revolve around female rogues. Leliana Isabela and Josephine. Plot related romances doesn't really appeal to me especially Anders'. I tried his romance once and it made me hate him even more than usual Tastes differ, friend. I love Anders. My favorite type of romance are all about repartee or sweet moments in the middle of a whirlwind adventure, rather than going through the backstory and kisses/FTB at the companion pen. I also like it when it is a romance with an adversary, rival or ally out of party, like Reyes or Thane (in me3) or Hunter or Skavak or Numen Brock, but I have never seen one that span the entire game. Hunter's was the longest, but BioWare was too cheap to end it without f**g it up for a female PC.
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İf you pick romances based on the plot I believe you romanced Morrigan in origins and Solas in Inquisition amirite? I love plot-important romances, but I also prefer to like the character I romance as well and for romance to happen as the events unfold, within the important quests, rather than asides in a castle/ship/campfire. I romanced Alistair (and Zevran after he became unavailable due to his duties) in Origins and Dorian in Inquisition. I would romance Solas, but playing a female elf is just not appealing to me in Inquisition (I would in DA and DA2) and the romance is too short to truly qualify as plot-important. I was looking more towards anticipating DA4 in my PT, I guess. A Qunari + Dorian. Dragon age usually seems to have at least one male and one female LI that are slightly more plot important than the rest. Origins was Alistair/Morrigan. There's Leliana of course who is arguably the most plot important overall in retrospect since she shows up in all 3 games, but just in terms of the DAO story alone. DA2 was Anders, and arguably Isabela for the Qunari plotline (she's also the LI who appears in the trailer). DAI, I want to say they were Cassandra and maybe Dorian. Solas is kind of in a category by himself, as an antagonist/villian LI which they don't do very often, but of course he is one of the most plot relevant for that reason. I suppose both Morrigan and Anders could be considered antagonist LIs too, but that depends on your choices so neither are outright villians in quite the same way.
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I love plot-important romances, but I also prefer to like the character I romance as well and for romance to happen as the events unfold, within the important quests, rather than asides in a castle/ship/campfire. I romanced Alistair (and Zevran after he became unavailable due to his duties) in Origins and Dorian in Inquisition. I would romance Solas, but playing a female elf is just not appealing to me in Inquisition (I would in DA and DA2) and the romance is too short to truly qualify as plot-important. I was looking more towards anticipating DA4 in my PT, I guess. A Qunari + Dorian. Dragon age usually seems to have at least one male and one female LI that are slightly more plot important than the rest. Origins was Alistair/Morrigan. There's Leliana of course who is arguably the most plot important overall in retrospect since she shows up in all 3 games, but just in terms of the DAO story alone. DA2 was Anders, and arguably Isabela for the Qunari plotline (she's also the LI who appears in the trailer). DAI, I want to say they were Cassandra and maybe Dorian. Solas is kind of in a category by himself, as an antagonist/villian LI which they don't do very often, but of course he is one of the most plot relevant for that reason. I suppose both Morrigan and Anders could be considered antagonist LIs too, but that depends on your choices so neither are outright villians in quite the same way. Solas romance is a romance with an antagonist rather than an antagonist romance, tbh. The romance specific content is almost not there, and it is restricted so heavily, that putting an arc around it is almost wasteful. Anders' and Morrigan's on the other hand are front and centre, fully intergrated in the storyline, with Anders' at least doing a fair bit of foreshadowing, and it is made available to every protagonist. Uniquely, Anders in DA2 does not even have plot armor, so the dramatic end is at the player's discretion as well. so, to me it is the strongest plot-important romance and that's why I like it more than others. Plus, obv to me Anders himself is very likeable, a male healer that is not too much of a comic relief like Quinn, Tharan and Doc in SWTOR.
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Post by Sah291 on May 8, 2017 16:57:05 GMT
Dragon age usually seems to have at least one male and one female LI that are slightly more plot important than the rest. Origins was Alistair/Morrigan. There's Leliana of course who is arguably the most plot important overall in retrospect since she shows up in all 3 games, but just in terms of the DAO story alone. DA2 was Anders, and arguably Isabela for the Qunari plotline (she's also the LI who appears in the trailer). DAI, I want to say they were Cassandra and maybe Dorian. Solas is kind of in a category by himself, as an antagonist/villian LI which they don't do very often, but of course he is one of the most plot relevant for that reason. I suppose both Morrigan and Anders could be considered antagonist LIs too, but that depends on your choices so neither are outright villians in quite the same way. Solas romance is a romance with an antagonist rather than an antagonist romance, tbh. The romance specific content is almost not there, and it is restricted so heavily, that putting an arc around it is almost wasteful. Anders' and Morrigan's on the other hand are front and centre, fully intergrated in the storyline, with Anders' at least doing a fair bit of foreshadowing, and it is made available to every protagonist. Uniquely, Anders in DA2 does not even have plot armor, so the dramatic end is at the player's discretion as well. so, to me it is the strongest plot-important romance and that's why I like it more than others. Plus, obv to me Anders himself is very likeable, a male healer that is not too much of a comic relief like Quinn, Tharan and Doc in SWTOR. I liked the Solas romance (it's my favorite in that game), but I agree it's not down to just the romance specific content, but the whole overlapping friendship and relationship you have with him, which isn't restricted to just the romance. The romantic scenes/flirts are kind of just icing in the cake to me. It does feel more interesting to romance him if you are playing as an elf, due to lore and backstory you might headcanon as a Dalish. But for me, playing an elf made the rest of the game more engaging as well (not just because of Solas), so it is subjective to some degree. I usually play as humans, given the choice, so that was a first for me. I agree with everything you said about Anders though. He's the kind of character, where if your PC didn't exist, he could almost make an interesting protagonist himself.
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Post by Pain Delta on May 8, 2017 18:09:42 GMT
The second Isabela told Hawke to be careful around men in the bar I was smitten, I really like her intro and romance for femHawke. I feel like she has the best character arc within the romance since ~love~ is so integral to her fears, and love is a big scary aspect in Hawke's life too with All That Remains showing how dangerous love can be.
........ and even Cassandra agrees it's romantic!
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The second Isabela told Hawke to be careful around men in the bar I was smitten, I really like her intro and romance for femHawke. I feel like she has the best character arc within the romance since ~love~ is so integral to her fears, and love is a big scary aspect in Hawke's life too with All That Remains showing how dangerous love can be. ........ and even Cassandra agrees it's romantic! I'd bet her return during the confrontation with the Arishok has a special flavor to it when romanced.
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Post by Pain Delta on May 8, 2017 18:28:21 GMT
The second Isabela told Hawke to be careful around men in the bar I was smitten, I really like her intro and romance for femHawke. I feel like she has the best character arc within the romance since ~love~ is so integral to her fears, and love is a big scary aspect in Hawke's life too with All That Remains showing how dangerous love can be. ........ and even Cassandra agrees it's romantic! I'd bet her return during the confrontation with the Arishok has a special flavor to it when romanced. Yeah! I think Cassandra even calls it romantic when you are romancing someone else. It is especially nice with a diplomatic Hawke... ya girls gone good.
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Post by Rascoth on May 8, 2017 18:33:20 GMT
I'd bet her return during the confrontation with the Arishok has a special flavor to it when romanced. Yeah! I think Cassandra even calls it romantic when you are romancing someone else. It is especially nice with a diplomatic Hawke... ya girls gone good. Cassandra calls one-on-one duel with Arishok romantic, not romance. As for the topic - Anders and Fenris.
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Post by Catilina on May 8, 2017 18:36:06 GMT
Anders. Essential for the plot, has tons of dialogue, and the way it was written it makes me feel that Anders indeed has a need to love Hawke & loves Hawke. It's not my favorite video-game romance ever in terms of me as a player being digitally in love with the character (that goes to Thane), nor the easiest to crush on in the first few seconds of screen time (that's Dorian), neither Anders' has the best romantic dialogue I've ever heard (that goes to Bao Dur with his "the longest you have looked at me...") but it's the best romance in terms of two characters' interactions. Hawke and Anders banters in Legacy are top notch. So, Anders, that's why "Nobody's perfect" 
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Post by Pain Delta on May 8, 2017 18:46:49 GMT
Yeah! I think Cassandra even calls it romantic when you are romancing someone else. It is especially nice with a diplomatic Hawke... ya girls gone good. Cassandra calls one-on-one duel with Arishok romantic, not romance. As for the topic - Anders. It is romantic because you are doing a one-on-one duel to save her from being handed over to the Qun I thought? Because otherwise you just hand her over, and I don't really get the concept of just the duel itself romantic without the savior aspect. It is conceptually romantic, though I admit I haven't seen other options besides dueling for Isabela's life. I believe I saw something about Fenris urging you to duel if Isabela isn't there, so I see your point.
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Solas romance is a romance with an antagonist rather than an antagonist romance, tbh. The romance specific content is almost not there, and it is restricted so heavily, that putting an arc around it is almost wasteful. Anders' and Morrigan's on the other hand are front and centre, fully intergrated in the storyline, with Anders' at least doing a fair bit of foreshadowing, and it is made available to every protagonist. Uniquely, Anders in DA2 does not even have plot armor, so the dramatic end is at the player's discretion as well. so, to me it is the strongest plot-important romance and that's why I like it more than others. Plus, obv to me Anders himself is very likeable, a male healer that is not too much of a comic relief like Quinn, Tharan and Doc in SWTOR. I liked the Solas romance (it's my favorite in that game), but I agree it's not down to just the romance specific content, but the whole overlapping friendship and relationship you have with him, which isn't restricted to just the romance. The romantic scenes/flirts are kind of just icing in the cake to me. It does feel more interesting to romance him if you are playing as an elf, due to lore and backstory you might headcanon as a Dalish. But for me, playing an elf made the rest of the game more engaging as well (not just because of Solas), so it is subjective to some degree. I usually play as humans, given the choice, so that was a first for me. I agree with everything you said about Anders though. He's the kind of character, where if your PC didn't exist, he could almost make an interesting protagonist himself. What I mean to say, you are not in a conflict with Solas during the game. Save for meta-gaming knowledge you do not know that you are romancing an enemy or a rival. It is really a few flirts over the what feels like a friendship friendship. In case of Skavak, for example, you are in an open and direct conflict with him while romancing, full duration of Act I, i.e. that makes an actual antagonist romance. Unless DA4 is centered on Inquisitor, and Solas is the main antagonist, and we'll have lots of cutscenes where they meet, argue and whatever, and they all include the flirting options, I will be tempted to overlook elven bodies/faces. Unless they change the elven dolls again... 'cause it's not a DA game if they don't overhaul the Elves.
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Post by Catilina on May 8, 2017 19:00:13 GMT
My romances generally revolve around female rogues. Leliana Isabela and Josephine. Plot related romances doesn't really appeal to me especially Anders'. I tried his romance once and it made me hate him even more than usual Tastes differ, friend. I love Anders. My favorite type of romance are all about repartee or sweet moments in the middle of a whirlwind adventure, rather than going through the backstory and kisses/FTB at the companion pen. I also like it when it is a romance with an adversary, rival or ally out of party, like Reyes or Thane (in me3) or Hunter or Skavak or Numen Brock, but I have never seen one that span the entire game. Hunter's was the longest, but BioWare was too cheap to end it without f**g it up for a female PC. Anders is hot, passionate and has a very good backstory, and a very romantic happy end, or a strong tragedy. (And even he and Justice was my favorites in DAA, so 2 in 1 – pure profit.) And in the Inquisition I love that Hawke says, that he and Anders went from Circle to Circle and helped to take the final step of revolution. This just so beautiful! About plot-wise romances: I loved Morrigan, the full romance thread with Witch Hunt, and her conversation about her love inthe Inquisition. I didn't try Solas yet.
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Post by Rascoth on May 8, 2017 19:02:09 GMT
Cassandra calls one-on-one duel with Arishok romantic, not romance. As for the topic - Anders. It is romantic because you are doing a one-on-one duel to save her from being handed over to the Qun I thought? Because otherwise you just hand her over, and I don't really get the concept of just the duel itself romantic without the savior aspect. It is conceptually romantic, thought I admit I haven't seen other options besides dueling for Isabela's life. I believe I saw something about Fenris urging you to duel if Isabela isn't there. It's not tied to saving Isabela in any way, since Cassandra says the same thing even if Isabela wasn't recruited/didn't return. You can get duel without Isabela. Either Fenris arranges it or Arishok offers duel himself if he considers you basalit-an.
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I liked the Solas romance (it's my favorite in that game), but I agree it's not down to just the romance specific content, but the whole overlapping friendship and relationship you have with him, which isn't restricted to just the romance. The romantic scenes/flirts are kind of just icing in the cake to me. It does feel more interesting to romance him if you are playing as an elf, due to lore and backstory you might headcanon as a Dalish. But for me, playing an elf made the rest of the game more engaging as well (not just because of Solas), so it is subjective to some degree. I usually play as humans, given the choice, so that was a first for me. I agree with everything you said about Anders though. He's the kind of character, where if your PC didn't exist, he could almost make an interesting protagonist himself. What I mean to say, you are not in a conflict with Solas during the game. Save for meta-gaming knowledge you do not know that you are romancing an enemy or a rival. It is really a few flirts over the what feels like a friendship friendship. In case of Skavak, for example, you are in an open and direct conflict with him while romancing, full duration of Act I, i.e. that makes an actual antagonist romance. Unless DA4 is centered on Inquisitor, and Solas is the main antagonist, and we'll have lots of cutscenes where they meet, argue and whatever, and they all include the flirting options, I will be tempted to overlook elven bodies/faces. Unless they change the elven dolls again... 'cause it's not a DA game if they don't overhaul the Elves. Oh I see what you're saying, and that is true you don't know he is a villian at the time the romance/friendship takes place. It's not until Tresspasser that the Inquisitor starts dealing with him as an antagonist, and by then they are already broken up, but there still are some romantic undertones to the confrontation, so I'd still count it. I guess what I meant to say was that Solas was a romance with an antagonist, versus an antagonistic romance. The rivalmance with Anders could be looked at as an antagonistic romance with a villian (if you chose that way), but the difference is he's not locked into that outcome no matter what, and it's not canon he's a villian. Maybe the same will be true for Solas, if there is more to his story arc, but who knows.
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