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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 0:41:26 GMT
I doubt it's the dudebros. Nah there's another group whining about this thread. *throws all the shade* You know who you are you reading this right now. I see you. I don't want to throw the dreaded 'P' word around, but in this case, it's easy for people like them to tell us to get over it and move on when they're catered to in terms of characters and gameplay. Just saying... I do wish Gil had actually felt like a character. Even Cortez feels more developed and he had Carth Sydnrome. That said man I wish GIl was better developed or they had actually bothered to give us that other companion and he'd been a gay alien. If nothing else hopefully this leads to the next ME game having gay companions and they don't half ass their love scenes compared to everyone else's.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 0:34:37 GMT
Haha are you talking about the Plants versus Zombies stuffed animals? Those belong to EA's cross promotion department. I like to think they're Drack's though.
But I don't think Drack is on board yet.
Unless he's lurking in a cabin somewhere?
I'd say they're either Liam's or Suvi's.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 0:30:34 GMT
Yeah, it's really absurd. I used to think, "Why would people that don't care for m/m content care about whether it exists in the game or not when they can just avoid it?" but the very existence or discussion of it apparently upsets them. Insecure dudebros afraid the gay will infect them. They think it's icky and want only boobs everywhere because "who'd want to push her off you" I doubt it's the dudebros. Nah there's another group whining about this thread. *throws all the shade* You know who you are you reading this right now. I see you.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 0:27:02 GMT
*In hypnotizing tone* Vetra. Vetra. Vetra. #ClimbTheTurian #ShipMomIsTheBest Yeah, but Liam being the less picked romance interest makes me want to try him more... Join the Liam side. ![<3](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/bYmUqWGYNIhNE0GJanhP.png) We have hugs and kisses.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 0:19:44 GMT
If it makes it any easier I got Liam's lm faster. I think he was the first LM I got. So you can romance him really quickly if you wanna just try it out and then go for someone else. (also he's so no pressure and I freaking love it so muuuuch). His LM has been one of my favourite parts of the game so far! Admittedly I kinda wrote him off as a hot-head at the start of the game but as I got to know him he became so cute omg. He really is ![<3](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/bYmUqWGYNIhNE0GJanhP.png) And his romance (especially if you hold back on the flirts) is my fav friends to lovers is the best. His combat AI needs some improvement though. Also I got that glitch where he died but not really so I had his corpse following me around for a bit. That was fun.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 0:08:44 GMT
I love Liam! Either Liam or Vetra is going to be my sisRyder's romance, since im too salty to even entertain Jaal I can't decide Liam or Vetra for first Sara Ryder playthrough... probably most difficult choice I'll be faced with, lol. They're both too good... (and I'm too hurt to try Jaal) If it makes it any easier I got Liam's lm faster. I think he was the first LM I got. So you can romance him really quickly if you wanna just try it out and then go for someone else. (also he's so no pressure and I freaking love it so muuuuch).
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 24, 2017 0:06:23 GMT
No leave it open D: the Liam thread is like dead and this is like the only place I can gush about Liam and get some replies. Also how rude of people to ask you to close the thread. What's their problem? They can easily avoid the thread if they don't like it. Also I like talking about the shortcomings of BW romances (both s/s and f/m) so yeah please keep it open! I love Liam! Either Liam or Vetra is going to be my sisRyder's romance, since im too salty to even entertain Jaal YAY. (My post got eaten ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/BBCpsoiIHmyzmblpikow.png) ) but yes I was saying I love Liam because he's so boy next door and just so laid back and it's perfect. I'm a bit meh on Jaal especially because the way you have to trigger his romance is just so OOC and I'm like "ehhhhhh" I always do this! The ones everyone is all ![<3](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/bYmUqWGYNIhNE0GJanhP.png) for I'm all meh and the reverse. What is wrong with me?!? Which is a shame because Jaal's love scene does knock Liam's out of the park (Liam's is pretty equal to Gil's if anything) but Liam is just my baby ![<3](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/bYmUqWGYNIhNE0GJanhP.png) That said Jaal > Liam in combat. Liam I love you but please stop dying. Please.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 23:58:48 GMT
I'm ok with this thread as is . There's no reason to close this thread since a lot of the arguments and discussion have been made around the issue on here, bad lock it would kinda bury all of that. Some folks that I have talked to feel like this is the m/m romance only thread and that's all we talk about in here. I've had requests to close this thread and encourage folks to use the current m/m saltmine thread to talk about m/m romances in general. Then have other posters start whatever threads they want. The people making this request told me, "There is already a section for characters and romance, why have a thread dedicated to it?" I know I'm cutting into the Jaal debate here, but this is important. Please, post and talk about why you would or would not want this thread closed. Trust me, the subject of romances in BioWare games will never be irrelevant. No need to worry there. We'll be talking about the romances in ME:A for years to come. It'll be relevant so long as ME:A is the current game. I'm not a huge fan of the idea of shutting down the thread, but since it affects everyone in here, I wanted to know what you guys thought. No leave it open D: the Liam thread is like dead and this is like the only place I can gush about Liam and get some replies. Also how rude of people to ask you to close the thread. What's their problem? They can easily avoid the thread if they don't like it. Also I like talking about the shortcomings of BW romances (both s/s and f/m) so yeah please keep it open!
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 23:43:31 GMT
I knew this day would come when Jaal fans who claimed they were supportive of m/m romance would turn against us, if we dare to hope to touch their precious Jaal. I don't know this has been pretty clear since before he was confirmed straight honestly and I only go in their briefly. Truth be told I really wish he was bi since then I'd have an excuse to play Scott. I don't think I'm be able to pull myself from Liam otherwise >_<
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 23:39:06 GMT
Well I guess what someone in this thread said previously is true. Making Jaal bi is going to make some of his current fans mad. Just look at Jaal's thread, a mere suggestion that Jaal could be bi already upsets some people lol. Bi Jaal is probably too much gay they could handle. Man I hope they do it for the sheer sodium levels. The salt from some Kaidan fangirls it sustained me for years.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 21:06:13 GMT
Well Blackwall was nicknamed by fandom Ser Bara before we knew his real name... How do they NEVER FUCKING NOTICE THIS. I have no idea. Especially since a lot of the females I was going went "ewww why do they think we want this?"
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 21:03:29 GMT
Okay whoever said Liam's romance is boring *slaps* He's so normal and adorable and it's so cute and I can't. I love it so much it's giving me cavities.
Edit: Meanwhile Jaal's romance just has me like "meh" oh god this is another case where I freaking love the romance that's discarded by most people to death isn't it? Not again!
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 20:18:15 GMT
I'm getting a bit ticked off at people saying Liam is Kaidan or Jacob. I actually like him, so that already proves he's not like them. If Liam had been an option for gay guys too, his popularity in general would have been much greater, I think. Like with Blackwall, I feel that it's an example of a character who would have been much more appreciated by the demographic who wasn't given the chance to romance him. It's too bad. :/ The thing that bothers me is the ME devs should KNOW the human male squaddie could use the extra love. It's just wut.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 19:37:42 GMT
First, it was a fade-to-black scene with Gil, and then there's this. The differences are so infuriating because they show exactly how little they value m/m romance. Yeah it's a bit stupid they couldn't even be assed to have Scott looking down at Reyes with a smile. I mean wut.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 19:36:15 GMT
that's actually a Zevran battle quote too. That said when Jaal started spewing Garrus quotes I was all nah fam you got 5 years before you're Garrus level. Don't even. What Garrus quote is that? I remember hearing the strange BioWare-ism "one less to worry about" when they kill someone, but I remember clearly that Blackwall says that too. Such a strange and specific thing to yell in battle. Mostly the one less to worry was the standout one but there's another one that I forgot.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 19:01:00 GMT
I tried to see the charm in Reyes, but he actually turned me off and that's rare. Even Zev charmed me to death, but he was so... well even his battle cries were about how amazing he is, and it just made me want to gag. "We are ridiculously awesome!" -one? I thought it was pretty cute. that's actually a Zevran battle quote too. That said when Jaal started spewing Garrus quotes I was all nah fam you got 5 years before you're Garrus level. Don't even.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 17:29:47 GMT
I choose all of them. And ladies, always know that I'm really happy for you, but it's still going to physically hurt me whenever I see the romance scenes. I actually watched the "sex buahahah lick my kitten"-scene after cathering my courage. All I could think about was how much I dislike boobs. Dunno what it tells more, about my level of dysphoria or how salty I was. But that was all I saw and decided not to watch again. Nah I don't like boobs either.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 17:12:38 GMT
You don't even see them as background people tho. Well they won't outright say it but one would assume the asari/asari or asari/ human female relationships in the background of the games had a preference that doesn't mean they weren't attracted to males. Just that said asari or human female was the one they were in a relationship with. I want an asari who straight up turns down a male by saying she's only attracted to females and her race.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 17:11:13 GMT
Almost forget how petty some gamers can be You didn't hear about them harassing that woman they thought did the animations? Lol I can never forget that.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 17:09:38 GMT
I always found the complete lack of those to be freaking baffling. Surely there's asari that restrict themselves to their kind or human women. You'd think they'd be common if anything. There are, but as romances? Nah You don't even see them as background people tho.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 17:08:45 GMT
H a ha hA BUILDING A MEANINGFUL ROMANCE BUT NOT IF IT'S MLM Wait, what do you mean adopting a child with your boyfriend who is adopting said child only for his female friend who wants the 3 of you to be a big gay family together at 22 years old while the entire future of your species in an entirely new and dangerous galaxy rests on your shoulders with a man you haven't known for a long time isN'T MEANINGFUL????? (as much as I love Gil, I really think his personality, character and your relationship with him could've been fleshed out a lot more. Although I haven't played the game and romanced him, so maybe I'm wrong) Not even gonna mention Reyes lmao Like I thought Gil couldn't be that bad but even playing female he's a bit too much about the baby thing. It's fucking weird. It's like his characterization is fighting with itself. One hand he wants to be the easy going no strings attached guy and on the other he's all like "hey we're here to procreate and should get started on that." and it's like wut.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 16:47:14 GMT
Overall, this trailer looked really nice. However, Sara's smile in that "group photo" with the rest of the crew seemed so fake to me :| There's a reason she had a helmet on most of the time. Her animations are AWFUL.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 16:38:02 GMT
Same. Cora and Jaal were yacking every 10 seconds. "I will turn this car around!" Man I wish Tali/Garrus had whined about my Shep driving. I'm surprised they didn't do it in Overlord. That stupid tissue paper hammerhead. I was driving too close to the edge of an abyss and Vetra was yelling "Shit! Shit! Shiiit!" and Jaal was freakin' out and screaming "Ryder! NO!" I was sooo tempted to just end it there by going over, and shut them up. Oh yes I'm gonna test this. Ryder just wants to end it all and takes her companions with her.
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 16:36:15 GMT
exactly that's why how the fuck can he not be aware. That's just PR talk, sadly. Lesson learned. </3 Seriously though I don't see how they didn't see all of this coming. From teh animations, to the lopsided romances, to the wtf plot and writing. How did they not forsee this? Did they have no one going "Hey wait a minute..."
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Post by Ryzaki on Mar 23, 2017 16:34:43 GMT
? Really because I've been getting...too much if I'm honest they won't shut up. ...does this mean DA4 is gonna have it too because it seems to be an engine problem if anything. Yeah some people say no one is talking at all. Vetra and Jaal wouldn't shut up about my driving last night, so it's not a problem for me. Same. Cora and Jaal were yacking every 10 seconds. "I will turn this car around!" Man I wish Tali/Garrus had whined about my Shep driving. I'm surprised they didn't do it in Overlord. That stupid tissue paper hammerhead.
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