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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 17:08:14 GMT
I just remember him lecturing me on fine distinction between modern elves and the ideal of the elveness and how he would instance himself from them, and he did not really distinguished between the protagonist and the other modern elves, so I assumed that his attitude encompassed the PC.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 17:09:23 GMT
What I am trying to say that in respect of how you are treated by the characters of the same race by the significant other characters of the same race in DAI: Elves - get a full blast of scorn from Solas and is certified by him not to be a "real" elf Qunari - get a full blast of scorn from IB and is certified by him on a few occasions as not a "real" Qunari but the dwarf is never told he is not a "real" dwarf iirc, and the groups' other dwarf is actually similar to the Inquisitor in that he is a surface dwarf. In respect to Jowan, I just wanted a clarification in respect to this discussion (why was he brought into it?) because if I have not seen someone say on the forum that Alistair is half-elf because of EU information, I would have never known it based on his appearance and the story in the game. Both Harding and Varric are surface dwarfs and I think they don’t care.Part of why they are on the surface is because they don’t want to live like the rest of the dwarfs. They are used to all kinds of people. Yes, that's what I am trying to say - the dwarf is not told that he is the wrong dwarf by the other dwarves, because the other dwarves are in the same circumstances as he is. Unlike the elf/Qunari.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 8, 2017 17:18:51 GMT
Nightscrawl thank you for answering the question, and I would love to hear more about folks perceptions of the elves’ content share in DAI and how it impacted their gaming. It actually just occurred to me that from the non-humans, both Qunari and Elven team representative meet the PC of each race with a lot of unfriendliness, and tell them outright how they are not the real McKoy. Vs the dwarves that get Varric who is ever ready to press any DA protagonist to his bosom. In addition to being a surface dwarf, Varric also doesn't seem to consider himself to be culturally dwarf, for the lack of a better word, so that's not a surprise. During Dragon Age 2, he talks about how it didn't matter to him like it did to Bartrand. Had Cadash been visiting Orzammar and encountered non-surface dwarves then they'd be met very differently. For that reason, it's not really a comparable situation since the dwarves that would find issue with Cadash on account of them "not being a real dwarf" uniquely live underground while the qunari and elves live above. Yeah he does but I think he also tells you that he wasn't born in Orzammar like Bartrand was as his family had already been exiled by the time he was born so had spent all his life on the surface. he only went down into the Deep Roads when taking part in expeditions and stayed away from them otherwise. Generally he stayed on the surface and out of trouble if and when he could. That was until he met Hawke when he ended up in every sort of trouble he could think of and then some he'd never imagine.
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Post by phoray on Dec 8, 2017 17:20:04 GMT
I just remember him lecturing me on fine distinction between modern elves and the ideal of the elveness and how he would instance himself from them, and he did not really distinguished between the protagonist and the other modern elves, so I assumed that his attitude encompassed the PC. Solas' strength is also his weakness: Words. Ever so many of them. Drowning you in them. And he won't clarify unless you demand he do so.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 8, 2017 17:27:43 GMT
Otherwise, Solas is perfectly nice to Lavellan.
He is perfectly nice if he likes you. Now I've never been able to play someone he really dislikes but I've watched You Tube and he will pour scorn on anyone, not just Dalish. In a way you get to see what he really thinks about the other races because, of course, if he likes you he does seem to regard you as an exception to the norm and even asks if the anchor may be the reason because he clearly finds it hard respecting any modern race. So Solas is not specifically down on modern elves but modern everyone, he just doesn't let those feelings show, unless provoked.
In Trespasser, to an Inquisitor he dislikes whatever the race, he makes it clear that he acted against the Qunari because they "offend him" by their mere existence.
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Post by House Targaryen on Dec 8, 2017 17:36:41 GMT
I think the Wardens offend Solas just as much as the Qunari. He's always talking down about them.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 8, 2017 17:38:20 GMT
Qunari - get a full blast of scorn from IB and is certified by him on a few occasions as not a "real" Qunari But, the qunari PC is NOT a "real" Qunari. There is the qunari race, and there is the Qunari society (which is comprised of qunari race, as well as other races). I am not at all surprised by Iron Bull's scorn of a Vashoth PC. He is a member of the Qun and it makes total sense for him to have that view. I can totally imagine that Bull would see the Vashoth PC, especially if they greet him in Qunlat (if the player takes that option) as some sort of pretender, a fake, who is trying to form an association with him, a member of the Qun, where they have no such basis of familiarity. In contrast, dwarves really only have two things to be discriminatory about: caste and surface dwelling (which is related to caste, since you lose your caste by going to the surface). Varric was born on the surface, so he doesn't have any of those prejudices. Likewise with any of the dwarves you meet in the DAI base game. I can't speak to the Descent dwarves since I still haven't played that. However, I'll also say that, even in DAO we met dwarves who cared little for those distinctions, like Oghren, who doesn't give a shit about much of anything related to his culture, or that one guy in Tapster's Tavern who sympathized with the plight of the casteless. [edit] It's also important to remember that in DAI Iron Bull is our primary representative of the Qunari, until we meet Gaat, and our only qunari (race). In contrast, there are other dwarven NPCs beyond Varric, and there are other elven NPCs, including Dalish ones, beyond Solas. Bull is the only character that is the sole representative of his people, racially and culturally.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 8, 2017 17:57:30 GMT
He is perfectly nice if he likes you. Now I've never been able to play someone he really dislikes but I've watched You Tube and he will pour scorn on anyone, not just Dalish. In a way you get to see what he really thinks about the other races because, of course, if he likes you he does seem to regard you as an exception to the norm and even asks if the anchor may be the reason because he clearly finds it hard respecting any modern race. So Solas is not specifically down on modern elves but modern everyone, he just doesn't let those feelings show, unless provoked. That balcony scene is rather off-putting, even if he likes you. It's truly thinly veiled racism: "I guess you're one of the good ones," and that sort of thing. And you're right, he is quite willing to accept that it's really the Anchor that changed you into being somewhat acceptable. I'll have to look at the different dialogue options the next time I play the game to see if there is something I might find fitting. I wish there was a "Thanks... I guess" response.
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Post by shechinah on Dec 8, 2017 17:58:14 GMT
In addition to being a surface dwarf, Varric also doesn't seem to consider himself to be culturally dwarf, for the lack of a better word, so that's not a surprise. During Dragon Age 2, he talks about how it didn't matter to him like it did to Bartrand. Had Cadash been visiting Orzammar and encountered non-surface dwarves then they'd be met very differently. For that reason, it's not really a comparable situation since the dwarves that would find issue with Cadash on account of them "not being a real dwarf" uniquely live underground while the qunari and elves live above. Yeah he does but I think he also tells you that he wasn't born in Orzammar like Bartrand was as his family had already been exiled by the time he was born so had spent all his life on the surface. he only went down into the Deep Roads when taking part in expeditions and stayed away from them otherwise. Generally he stayed on the surface and out of trouble if and when he could. That was until he met Hawke when he ended up in every sort of trouble he could think of and then some he'd never imagine. When I say culturally dwarf, I meant he doesn't consider himself an Orzammar dwarf. Traditional dwarf would be the better word to use. Despite growing up in a family that used to be Orzammar, he didn't care about their old status and is entirely a surface dwarf like Cadash.
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Post by shechinah on Dec 8, 2017 18:13:39 GMT
That balcony scene is rather off-putting, even if he likes you. It's truly thinly veiled racism: "I guess you're one of the good ones," and that sort of thing. And you're right, he is quite willing to accept that it's really the Anchor that changed you into being somewhat acceptable. I'll have to look at the different dialogue options the next time I play the game to see if there is something I might find fitting. I wish there was a "Thanks... I guess" response. I cannot remember the balcony scene for the other ones but if the Inquisitor is Dalish, Solas does admit that he may have misjudged the Dalish because of Lavellan's example. He doesn't try to claim the Inquisitor is an exception and discredit any Dalish involvement. To be honest, I don't mind that Solas has that aspect of incognizant racism to his character. It's a flaw that make sense given his backstory and does seem acknowledged as a flaw by the writers. Basically, I feel it adds to the character than detract from or simplify it. That's also how I feel about how he at first considered the people of modern Thedas to be akin to tranquils yet he still felt compassion for them and didn't want them to needlessly suffer. Those flaws and how they interplay with the rest of his character traits are part of why I like the character of Solas so much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 18:31:58 GMT
Qunari - get a full blast of scorn from IB and is certified by him on a few occasions as not a "real" Qunari But, the qunari PC is NOT a "real" Qunari. There is the qunari race, and there is the Qunari society (which is comprised of qunari race, as well as other races). I am not at all surprised by Iron Bull's scorn of a Vashoth PC. He is a member of the Qun and it makes total sense for him to have that view. I can totally imagine that Bull would see the Vashoth PC, especially if they greet him in Qunlat (if the player takes that option) as some sort of pretender, a fake, who is trying to form an association with him, a member of the Qun, where they have no such basis of familiarity. In contrast, dwarves really only have two things to be discriminatory about: caste and surface dwelling (which is related to caste, since you lose your caste by going to the surface). Varric was born on the surface, so he doesn't have any of those prejudices. Likewise with any of the dwarves you meet in the DAI base game. I can't speak to the Descent dwarves since I still haven't played that. However, I'll also say that, even in DAO we met dwarves who cared little for those distinctions, like Oghren, who doesn't give a shit about much of anything related to his culture, or that one guy in Tapster's Tavern who sympathized with the plight of the casteless. [edit] It's also important to remember that in DAI Iron Bull is our primary representative of the Qunari, until we meet Gaat, and our only qunari (race). In contrast, there are other dwarven NPCs beyond Varric, and there are other elven NPCs, including Dalish ones, beyond Solas. Bull is the only character that is the sole representative of his people, racially and culturally. Yes, and that exactly what I am commenting on. The very first encounter with a racial counterpart for both the Qunari and the Elf results in those very discussions that "let me break it down for you" how you are really not "good enough". My Qunari can't go and extoll virtues of the free Qunari for example when Bull looks him up and down, spits on the ground and tells him: "Boy, you are no Qunari." I cannot tell him that actually, I am the REAL Qunari, or that blood is blood, and it does not matter that our religion is different (and he certainly does not say that). And, yeah, it makes killing him all the more satisfying though Inquisitor does not get to say: "Oh, no, I am no bas. I am a Qunari, and you are dead." Same thing happens with elf, if not so bluntly put, with Solas eventually coming around to admit you are okay as an elf. The dwarves (as in Varric) seem to avoid the topic of choices that their race may make, but overall welcome PC of their race as much as the PC of every other race, without the very special prejudice that Quanri and Elves (as represented by Bull and Solas) reserve for the Inquisitor's background within their race. In other words, on both an elf and a Qunari, I was made fell that I needed an option to say: "FU Solas/Bull! I am just fine with my race and what I am, and proud of it, thank you very much," but on the dwarf I don't think you are put in the situation to feel that way.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Dec 8, 2017 18:49:29 GMT
But, the qunari PC is NOT a "real" Qunari. There is the qunari race, and there is the Qunari society (which is comprised of qunari race, as well as other races). I am not at all surprised by Iron Bull's scorn of a Vashoth PC. He is a member of the Qun and it makes total sense for him to have that view. I can totally imagine that Bull would see the Vashoth PC, especially if they greet him in Qunlat (if the player takes that option) as some sort of pretender, a fake, who is trying to form an association with him, a member of the Qun, where they have no such basis of familiarity. In contrast, dwarves really only have two things to be discriminatory about: caste and surface dwelling (which is related to caste, since you lose your caste by going to the surface). Varric was born on the surface, so he doesn't have any of those prejudices. Likewise with any of the dwarves you meet in the DAI base game. I can't speak to the Descent dwarves since I still haven't played that. However, I'll also say that, even in DAO we met dwarves who cared little for those distinctions, like Oghren, who doesn't give a shit about much of anything related to his culture, or that one guy in Tapster's Tavern who sympathized with the plight of the casteless. [edit] It's also important to remember that in DAI Iron Bull is our primary representative of the Qunari, until we meet Gaat, and our only qunari (race). In contrast, there are other dwarven NPCs beyond Varric, and there are other elven NPCs, including Dalish ones, beyond Solas. Bull is the only character that is the sole representative of his people, racially and culturally. Yes, and that exactly what I am commenting on. The very first encounter with a racial counterpart for both the Qunari and the Elf results in those very discussions that "let me break it down for you" how you are really not "good enough". My Qunari can't go and extoll virtues of the free Qunari for example when Bull looks him up and down, spits on the ground and tells him: "Boy, you are no Qunari." I cannot tell him that actually, I am the REAL Qunari, or that blood is blood, and it does not matter that our religion is different (and he certainly does not say that). And, yeah, it makes killing him all the more satisfying though Inquisitor does not get to say: "Oh, no, I am no bas. I am a Qunari, and you are dead." Same thing happens with elf, if not so bluntly put, with Solas eventually coming around to admit you are okay as an elf. The dwarves (as in Varric) seem to avoid the topic of choices that their race may make, but overall welcome PC of their race as much as the PC of every other race, without the very special prejudice that Quanri and Elves (as represented by Bull and Solas) reserve for the Inquisitor's background within their race. In other words, on both an elf and a Qunari, I was made fell that I needed an option to say: "FU Solas/Bull! I am just fine with my race and what I am, and proud of it, thank you very much," but on the dwarf I don't think you are put in the situation to feel that way. Don't forget Sera. In one ear you have Solas saying you aren't elfy enough, and Sera in the other saying you are too elfy.
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 8, 2017 19:25:42 GMT
I cannot remember the balcony scene for the other ones but if the Inquisitor is Dalish, Solas does admit that he may have misjudged the Dalish because of Lavellan's example. He doesn't try to claim the Inquisitor is an exception and discredit any Dalish involvement What he actually does is ask you if he has misjudged the Dalish and his reaction to your answer is revealing: If the Dalish could raise someone with a spirit like yours... have I misjudged them? ◾Yes. ◾Honestly, not really. ◾No. I am who I am. - Slightly Approves You will notice that when you are effectively agreeing that you are an exception then he approves because you have reinforced his world view. He does a lot of that sort of thing. His approvals and disapprovals are often more revealing than what he actually says.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Dec 8, 2017 19:39:48 GMT
I cannot remember the balcony scene for the other ones but if the Inquisitor is Dalish, Solas does admit that he may have misjudged the Dalish because of Lavellan's example. He doesn't try to claim the Inquisitor is an exception and discredit any Dalish involvement What he actually does is ask you if he has misjudged the Dalish and his reaction to your answer is revealing: If the Dalish could raise someone with a spirit like yours... have I misjudged them? ◾Yes. ◾Honestly, not really. ◾No. I am who I am. - Slightly Approves You will notice that when you are effectively agreeing that you are an exception then he approves because you have reinforced his world view. He does a lot of that sort of thing. His approvals and disapprovals are often more revealing than what he actually says. It makes sense doesn't it? Solas basically has to have racist opinions about all the races on Thedas, the Dalish included, to justify his genocide plot to himself. Humans are short-sighted, dwarves are fundamentally broken, qunari are savages barely controlled by the Qun, and the Dalish are idiots who don't even understand their own history. Therefore it's fine if I end up killing them all by destroying the Veil because their mostly all backwards, stupid animals anyway. That was likely Solas thought process throughout the main game of Inquisition and it only slightly changes in Trespasser if he liked the Inquisitor because not only is he still going along with his plan, but he also doesn't believe himself a monster for doing so, which was kind of hard for me to shallow.
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Post by shechinah on Dec 8, 2017 19:41:38 GMT
What he actually does is ask you if he has misjudged the Dalish and his reaction to your answer is revealing: If the Dalish could raise someone with a spirit like yours... have I misjudged them? ◾Yes. ◾Honestly, not really. ◾No. I am who I am. - Slightly Approves You will notice that when you are effectively agreeing that you are an exception then he approves because you have reinforced his world view. He does a lot of that sort of thing. His approvals and disapprovals are often more revealing than what he actually says. I would agree. However, if you select the third option, Solas will still attempt to give the Dalish credit: Solas: "Yes, you are wise to give yourself that due, although the Dalish, in their fashion, may still have guided you."
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 19:48:58 GMT
Overall, I do not understand why given Solas' fairly empathic character, they did not made an extension for a protagonist of all races that won his approval towards something like: "Removing the Veil will bring suffering, I know, and I accept that responsibility, but the resulting world will be glorious with each race's (few) deserving survivors (strongly imply Inquisitor is one of them) becoming more after they behold the glory of the ancient elves, and unlock their own potential." rather than: "everyone needs to die. Sorry, friend."
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Post by fylimar on Dec 8, 2017 19:51:08 GMT
I cannot remember the balcony scene for the other ones but if the Inquisitor is Dalish, Solas does admit that he may have misjudged the Dalish because of Lavellan's example. He doesn't try to claim the Inquisitor is an exception and discredit any Dalish involvement What he actually does is ask you if he has misjudged the Dalish and his reaction to your answer is revealing: If the Dalish could raise someone with a spirit like yours... have I misjudged them? ◾Yes. ◾Honestly, not really. ◾No. I am who I am. - Slightly Approves You will notice that when you are effectively agreeing that you are an exception then he approves because you have reinforced his world view. He does a lot of that sort of thing. His approvals and disapprovals are often more revealing than what he actually says. I hate that balcony scene. It was one of the reasons, I stopped playing my Solasmance and made a new Lavellan, who will romance anyone but Solas. I find it strange, because I like his little tales, where he is telling about memories, he saw in the fade, with rebellious Qunari, sensible dwarves, brave humans... so he saw, that there are other shining examples of the inquisitors race (whatever it is, also I don't remember a tale involving elves, but the rest is covered) and he still thinks, inqui is the exception from his world view. It's a bit short sighted for such an old creature... To answer @carefulls original question, I do like the involvment of elven culture in DAI, I don't like everything (the 3-mages-rule came a bit out of the blue for me), but most of it. I'm a hugh fan of the Dalish and I do like, that they don't come out of the story smelling of roses. They have their skeletons in the closet like any other race, which make them more believable. But I do like to play the outsider once in a while too - for that, I have my little Cadashs - it's nice sometimes, not to have to care about church, elven culture, Qunari troubles, so it is either being super involved (human noble or elf) or not involved at all apart from the glowing hand and making friends (Cadash). But I have to say, I like the wartable mission of Lavellan, apart from the potential catastrophic ending, the most of all inqui wartable missions. The keeper of clan Lavellan is one cool lady, I love her from just reading her letters.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Dec 8, 2017 20:13:29 GMT
Yeah he does but I think he also tells you that he wasn't born in Orzammar like Bartrand was as his family had already been exiled by the time he was born so had spent all his life on the surface. he only went down into the Deep Roads when taking part in expeditions and stayed away from them otherwise. Generally he stayed on the surface and out of trouble if and when he could. That was until he met Hawke when he ended up in every sort of trouble he could think of and then some he'd never imagine. When I say culturally dwarf, I meant he doesn't consider himself an Orzammar dwarf. Traditional dwarf would be the better word to use. Despite growing up in a family that used to be Orzammar, he didn't care about their old status and is entirely a surface dwarf like Cadash. I know that's what you meant I was saying I agree with you.
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Post by alanc9 on Dec 8, 2017 20:19:26 GMT
Yes, and that exactly what I am commenting on. The very first encounter with a racial counterpart for both the Qunari and the Elf results in those very discussions that "let me break it down for you" how you are really not "good enough". My Qunari can't go and extoll virtues of the free Qunari for example when Bull looks him up and down, spits on the ground and tells him: "Boy, you are no Qunari." I cannot tell him that actually, I am the REAL Qunari, or that blood is blood, and it does not matter that our religion is different (and he certainly does not say that). And, yeah, it makes killing him all the more satisfying though Inquisitor does not get to say: "Oh, no, I am no bas. I am a Qunari, and you are dead." Technically, shouldn't your Inquisitor be saying "I am a real kossith"? Of course, this is the fault of the qunari, since they're the ones who started muddling up the distinction between the race and the followers of the Qun.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Dec 8, 2017 20:28:38 GMT
Overall, I do not understand why given Solas' fairly empathic character, they did not made an extension for a protagonist of all races that won his approval towards something like: "Removing the Veil will bring suffering, I know, and I accept that responsibility, but the resulting world will be glorious with each race's (few) deserving survivors (strongly imply Inquisitor is one of them) becoming more after they behold the glory of the ancient elves, and unlock their own potential." rather than: "everyone needs to die. Sorry, friend." Because Solas is a still villain despite his moments of compassion. I mean, this is the same guy who would have burned alive three mages who were about to surrender if you didn't stop him. The guy has always had a dark side.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 20:31:39 GMT
Yes, and that exactly what I am commenting on. The very first encounter with a racial counterpart for both the Qunari and the Elf results in those very discussions that "let me break it down for you" how you are really not "good enough". My Qunari can't go and extoll virtues of the free Qunari for example when Bull looks him up and down, spits on the ground and tells him: "Boy, you are no Qunari." I cannot tell him that actually, I am the REAL Qunari, or that blood is blood, and it does not matter that our religion is different (and he certainly does not say that). And, yeah, it makes killing him all the more satisfying though Inquisitor does not get to say: "Oh, no, I am no bas. I am a Qunari, and you are dead." Technically, shouldn't your Inquisitor be saying "I am a real kossith"? Of course, this is the fault of the qunari, since they're the ones who started muddling up the distinction between the race and the followers of the Qun. Not really. The only time Kossith is at all dragged to light is specifically for the IB to insult the Qunari Inquisitor. It is an obscure term not used by anyone at all to refer to the race. The character spreadsheet says Qunari. It’s like telling a Russian immigrant that because they are not a member of the communist party and do not live within the borders of Russia, they are not Russian, really, they are Radimich or Krivich.
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Post by correctamundo on Dec 8, 2017 20:46:28 GMT
Otherwise, Solas is perfectly nice to Lavellan.
He is perfectly nice if he likes you. Now I've never been able to play someone he really dislikes but I've watched You Tube and he will pour scorn on anyone, not just Dalish. In a way you get to see what he really thinks about the other races because, of course, if he likes you he does seem to regard you as an exception to the norm and even asks if the anchor may be the reason because he clearly finds it hard respecting any modern race. So Solas is not specifically down on modern elves but modern everyone, he just doesn't let those feelings show, unless provoked.
In Trespasser, to an Inquisitor he dislikes whatever the race, he makes it clear that he acted against the Qunari because they "offend him" by their mere existence.
How come the alternate story in where he is scornful shows what he "really thinks"? I don't see how a timeline where he is not would be any less real Solas.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 20:49:30 GMT
Overall, I do not understand why given Solas' fairly empathic character, they did not made an extension for a protagonist of all races that won his approval towards something like: "Removing the Veil will bring suffering, I know, and I accept that responsibility, but the resulting world will be glorious with each race's (few) deserving survivors (strongly imply Inquisitor is one of them) becoming more after they behold the glory of the ancient elves, and unlock their own potential." rather than: "everyone needs to die. Sorry, friend." Because Solas is a still villain despite his moments of compassion. I mean, this is the same guy who would have burned alive three mages who were about to surrender if you didn't stop him. The guy has always had a dark side. There is a huge number of perfectly good-aligned BioWare characters that would kill the kneeling enemy in vengeance unless PC intervenes. You can’t even stop Alistair. There is a difference between this scenario and the intention to wholesale burn everyone because they are cattle. Edit: not even cattle. More like locust or other parasites.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on Dec 8, 2017 20:59:13 GMT
Because Solas is a still villain despite his moments of compassion. I mean, this is the same guy who would have burned alive three mages who were about to surrender if you didn't stop him. The guy has always had a dark side. There is a huge number of perfectly good-aligned BioWare characters that would kill the kneeling enemy in vengeance unless PC intervenes. You can’t even stop Alistair. There is a difference between this scenario and the intention to wholesale burn everyone because they are cattle. Edit: not even cattle. More like locust or other parasites. Well we've already established that Solas is secretly a racist that thinks all the races on Thedas are shitty, except Inky whose "one of the good ones" apparently, so him being genocidal didn't surprise all that much once I figure out he was secretly a god.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2017 21:03:11 GMT
There is a huge number of perfectly good-aligned BioWare characters that would kill the kneeling enemy in vengeance unless PC intervenes. You can’t even stop Alistair. There is a difference between this scenario and the intention to wholesale burn everyone because they are cattle. Edit: not even cattle. More like locust or other parasites. Well we've already established that Solas is secretly a racist that thinks all the races on Thedas are shitty, except Inky whose "one of the good ones" apparently, so him being genocidal didn't surprise all that much once I figure out he was secretly a god. Being racist as deplorable and abhorrent it is does not lead to the desire to 100% destroy the perceived lessers. So, my suggestion casts his racism in what I feel is a bit more in character for him, more of a Kipling-esque racism than Hitler-like one.
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