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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Oct 31, 2018 18:41:08 GMT
Game design is for today's generation = who have little critical thinking skills are are quite content with their horribilus penchant for button smashing = a weakness easily exploitable by greedybus corps. I'm content to let them have those games. I'm looking for rules-based mechanics and in-character decision-making. That's all I need. Almost no one is making those games.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 31, 2018 18:46:42 GMT
Game design is for today's generation = who have little critical thinking skills are are quite content with their horribilus penchant for button smashing = a weakness easily exploitable by greedybus corps. I'm content to let them have those games. I'm looking for rules-based mechanics and in-character decision-making. That's all I need. Almost no one is making those games. Nowadays you need to check out indie developers and Kickstarters
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Oct 31, 2018 19:12:30 GMT
I'm content to let them have those games. I'm looking for rules-based mechanics and in-character decision-making. That's all I need. Almost no one is making those games. Nowadays you need to check out indie developers and Kickstarters I get that, but even they tend to get cute with their heavy-handed narratives. I just picked up Astrox Hostile Space Excavation. That game works for me. I enjoy that. It ostensibly has action combat, but you can let autopilot and autotarget do the work for you. Sort of Dungeon Siege in space, but with resource collection.
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Post by river82 on Nov 1, 2018 1:47:23 GMT
Nowadays you need to check out indie developers and Kickstarters I get that, but even they tend to get cute with their heavy-handed narratives. I just picked up Astrox Hostile Space Excavation. That game works for me. I enjoy that. It ostensibly has action combat, but you can let autopilot and autotarget do the work for you. Sort of Dungeon Siege in space, but with resource collection. You're making me want to buy it now. Oh hey, it's on sale too. What's this game like? A lot of these sorts of space sim games are a mile wide but an inch deep.
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Post by Sylvius the Mad on Nov 1, 2018 19:22:26 GMT
I get that, but even they tend to get cute with their heavy-handed narratives. I just picked up Astrox Hostile Space Excavation. That game works for me. I enjoy that. It ostensibly has action combat, but you can let autopilot and autotarget do the work for you. Sort of Dungeon Siege in space, but with resource collection. You're making me want to buy it now. Oh hey, it's on sale too. What's this game like? A lot of these sorts of space sim games are a mile wide but an inch deep. Not an unfair description. If not for the crafting system (which I discovered completely by accident), it would be a VERY simple game.
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Post by JokeDealer on Nov 2, 2018 6:09:57 GMT
I'm a bit late to the party on this thread as I have been incredibly preoccupied in the last few months. In terms of binary dialogue choices, I am certainly disappointed by the overall lack of choice, but it's an understandable move. Returning to Fort Tarsis for the conversation marathons that we have grown accustomed to in Bioware games means that, if you are playing with friends, you may sometimes have a half-hour lull in your activity as one or more of your friends does the old dialogue derby. By reducing the number of dialogue options, it is indeed limiting choice, but it's shortening interactions and making them quicker. There's less to choose from and less to investigate, which I consider a double-edged sword.
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Post by jayhartric on Nov 10, 2018 18:57:09 GMT
I'm a bit late to the party on this thread as I have been incredibly preoccupied in the last few months. In terms of binary dialogue choices, I am certainly disappointed by the overall lack of choice, but it's an understandable move. Returning to Fort Tarsis for the conversation marathons that we have grown accustomed to in Bioware games means that, if you are playing with friends, you may sometimes have a half-hour lull in your activity as one or more of your friends does the old dialogue derby. By reducing the number of dialogue options, it is indeed limiting choice, but it's shortening interactions and making them quicker. There's less to choose from and less to investigate, which I consider a double-edged sword. Most likely I'm going to be playing solo till I get to the endgame anyway.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Nov 12, 2018 3:55:19 GMT
Lol oh God...
Each time I come back the bar on this game is getting lowered
When it comes out people will be happy with a Destiny clone with nearly nothing of a Bioware proper game.
Hell AC odyssey is more of a bioware game than Anthem
Like...WTF?!?!?!?!?
Honestly...while I pray thus fails miserably I'll just replay Androneda with the xbox one x patch installed. Hopefully once this tanks Bioware will go back to ME....
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Post by jayhartric on Nov 12, 2018 7:18:10 GMT
Lol oh God... Each time I come back the bar on this game is getting lowered When it comes out people will be happy with a Destiny clone with nearly nothing of a Bioware proper game. Hell AC odyssey is more of a bioware game than Anthem Like...WTF?!?!?!?!? Honestly...while I pray thus fails miserably I'll just replay Androneda with the xbox one x patch installed. Hopefully once this tanks Bioware will go back to ME.... That's pretty much what I've been hoping this will be from the beginning--like Destiny except with a good story. No way to really know how the story is until the game comes out though.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 12, 2018 20:56:39 GMT
Lol oh God... Each time I come back the bar on this game is getting lowered When it comes out people will be happy with a Destiny clone with nearly nothing of a Bioware proper game. Hell AC odyssey is more of a bioware game than Anthem Like...WTF?!?!?!?!? Honestly...while I pray thus fails miserably I'll just replay Androneda with the xbox one x patch installed. Hopefully once this tanks Bioware will go back to ME.... Even ME isn't all that high a bar to set anymore. I'm just gonna back Kickstarters until Bioware remembers what put them on the map in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2018 21:24:48 GMT
Lol oh God... Each time I come back the bar on this game is getting lowered When it comes out people will be happy with a Destiny clone with nearly nothing of a Bioware proper game. Hell AC odyssey is more of a bioware game than Anthem Like...WTF?!?!?!?!? Honestly...while I pray thus fails miserably I'll just replay Androneda with the xbox one x patch installed. Hopefully once this tanks Bioware will go back to ME.... Even ME isn't all that high a bar to set anymore. I'm just gonna back Kickstarters until Bioware remembers what put them on the map in the first place. Nat a bad idea, but that's if EA will let Bioware remember what put them on the map assuming EA just don't shut Bioware down after all it's little more than just a name anyway.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Nov 13, 2018 0:21:41 GMT
Lol oh God... Each time I come back the bar on this game is getting lowered When it comes out people will be happy with a Destiny clone with nearly nothing of a Bioware proper game. Hell AC odyssey is more of a bioware game than Anthem Like...WTF?!?!?!?!? Honestly...while I pray thus fails miserably I'll just replay Androneda with the xbox one x patch installed. Hopefully once this tanks Bioware will go back to ME.... Even ME isn't all that high a bar to set anymore. I'm just gonna back Kickstarters until Bioware remembers what put them on the map in the first place. higher than this At least playing ME will show EA there is a market for it Where there is q market there is money Where there us money there is EA
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Post by correctamundo on Nov 13, 2018 6:09:48 GMT
Lol oh God... Each time I come back the bar on this game is getting lowered When it comes out people will be happy with a Destiny clone with nearly nothing of a Bioware proper game. Hell AC odyssey is more of a bioware game than Anthem Like...WTF?!?!?!?!? Honestly...while I pray thus fails miserably I'll just replay Androneda with the xbox one x patch installed. Hopefully once this tanks Bioware will go back to ME.... LMAO. Anthem won't tank.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Nov 13, 2018 12:23:19 GMT
Lol oh God... Each time I come back the bar on this game is getting lowered When it comes out people will be happy with a Destiny clone with nearly nothing of a Bioware proper game. Hell AC odyssey is more of a bioware game than Anthem Like...WTF?!?!?!?!? Honestly...while I pray thus fails miserably I'll just replay Androneda with the xbox one x patch installed. Hopefully once this tanks Bioware will go back to ME.... LMAO. Anthem won't tank. heard the same about Andromeda, heard the same but in reverse about AC Odyssey. You have no certainty, neither do I, I only have hope
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 13, 2018 12:50:02 GMT
heard the same about Andromeda, heard the same but in reverse about AC Odyssey. You have no certainty, neither do I, I only have hope There are no guarantees. Hopeless cases can soar. Highly anticipated titles can tank. (and anything in between, until the game is in our hands we don't know for sure) I hope the right thing happens to Anthem. (I'll be playing Colossus mostly )
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Nov 14, 2018 2:09:15 GMT
heard the same about Andromeda, heard the same but in reverse about AC Odyssey. You have no certainty, neither do I, I only have hope There are no guarantees. Hopeless cases can soar. Highly anticipated titles can tank. (and anything in between, until the game is in our hands we don't know for sure) I hope the right thing happens to Anthem. (I'll be playing Colossus mostly ) you mean total utter failure? Yeah me too....I'll be actively trying to dissuade my friends from buying it
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 14, 2018 8:58:01 GMT
you mean total utter failure? Yeah me too....I'll be actively trying to dissuade my friends from buying it We have differing expectations, but both are valid opinions. How did this thread slip into the old favorite topic: 'it's all shit from BioWare since Origins' discussion? Weren't we chatting about Binary Dialogue in here?
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Post by Sanunes on Nov 14, 2018 13:26:39 GMT
you mean total utter failure? Yeah me too....I'll be actively trying to dissuade my friends from buying it We have differing expectations, but both are valid opinions. How did this thread slip into the old favorite topic: 'it's all shit from BioWare since Origins' discussion? Weren't we chatting about Binary Dialogue in here? Unfortunately, its how most conversations about BioWare go. It starts its slide when people talk about how "they aren't as great as they used to be" and then responses and such start a drive away from the topic. Heck I saw threads about the Diablo Immortal take the same trend for people started to bring up BioWare in those conversations.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 14, 2018 15:24:17 GMT
you mean total utter failure? Yeah me too....I'll be actively trying to dissuade my friends from buying it We have differing expectations, but both are valid opinions. How did this thread slip into the old favorite topic: 'it's all shit from BioWare since Origins' discussion? Weren't we chatting about Binary Dialogue in here? Well, dialogue's been getting more and more binary, so yeah, it's been getting sh*ttier for the last several years (when exactly may be up for debate, but DAO was to me the last "great" Bioware game) Anthem is simply the water boiling a bit more forcefully. Can you blame the frogs for noticing it's been getting hotter?
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 14, 2018 15:29:26 GMT
Well, dialogue's been getting more and more binary, so yeah, it's been getting sh*ttier for the last several years (when exactly may be up for debate, but DAO was to me the last "great" Bioware game) I see little point in having three or even four dialogue choices if they are just tonal differences of the same thing. However, a meaningful binary choice could be interesting. The short answer is that we don't yet know how meaningfully branched the story will be.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 14, 2018 15:36:21 GMT
Well, dialogue's been getting more and more binary, so yeah, it's been getting sh*ttier for the last several years (when exactly may be up for debate, but DAO was to me the last "great" Bioware game) I see little point in having three or even four dialogue choices if they are just tonal differences of the same thing. "Role-playing" Even hawke, who had pretty much three ways to say the same thing, offered a minimal option for that. And rare, given NOTHING you say or do will affect anything outside your main hub. No alternate quest paths. No exclusive content. No variant boss battles. I don't believe there's even any dialogue out in the world, is there? We kinda do: Negligible.
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 14, 2018 15:39:44 GMT
Ah well, Javelin builds and customization will be fun, there's that to look forward to...
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Post by Iakus on Nov 14, 2018 15:44:42 GMT
Ah well, Javelin builds and customization will be fun, there's that to look forward to... I can do that in virtually any RPG. Any MMO for that matter. A lot of sim games too. So what else does this game have of interest?
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 14, 2018 15:56:31 GMT
So what else does this game have of interest? Have you not seen the trailers? I'm looking forward to it, it's like a world-sized version of Mass Effect multiplayer.
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Post by regack on Nov 14, 2018 15:56:53 GMT
Ah well, Javelin builds and customization will be fun, there's that to look forward to... I can do that in virtually any RPG. Any MMO for that matter. A lot of sim games too. So what else does this game have of interest? Depends on if you're interested in shooting things with friends other players or not. That's not my primary interest, so Anthem is not really shaping up to be a game I'll be playing. There may be other things that we don't know yet, and I could be surprised by something, which is why I'm watching to see where it goes.
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