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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 19, 2019 22:55:58 GMT
Failing to romance Jacob in ME2 is the video game skillcheck equivalent of Dean Takahashi playing that Cuphead tutorial. I wiped on the Mass Effect Andromeda multiplayer tutorial. Dean Takahashi is a god.
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Post by Bann Duncan on Jan 20, 2019 3:29:45 GMT
Comedy thread, I know, but #1 looks like an Oblivion Bosmer and #2 looks like a Skyrim child. #3 does look like a real, adult human being though. Are these images from Anthem? (While "sexiness" is a silly criteria as Space Cowboy points out, concerns about the character looking fake and/or like a child are reasonable, as Ryder has taught us. But then again, Ryder was going to a galaxy of people who look like testicles, so I guess it didn't matter.) Ahem, as a fan of Sapkowski books, who came to the games later, I must stand up for Yen against accusations of selfishness! She's a heroic and devoted mother who saves the world and her daughter. This is not true, as someone who's extremely familiar with the source material. She's not casting an illusion. She was, however, a disabled peasant in childhood, who was healed with the magical equivalent of surgery. But yes, very few sorceresses were born healthy/beautiful. Exceptions include elves and a certain daughter of Cintra. (I realize that it's been 20 years now since the last book in the saga came out, but even though I don't want to spoil things in case anyone is inspired to read the books, which are wonderful.) Since you said 20 years, did you read the books in the original Polish? I wonder if there was a translation artifact. It’s been years since I read the The Last Wish (in English) so I could easily have muddled things in my memory, but I thought Yennefer had an active glamour going for her beauty, as well as the surgery for her hunchback. Even in the English, that's not the case. What Geralt notices at the end of (the story) The Last Wish is basically the imperfect marks of her surgery. If it were a glamour, he wouldn't have noticed anything like that at all. (Compare with the illusions at Thanedd.) I was going to post the English passage here but can't find spoiler tags.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 20, 2019 4:06:24 GMT
Lenny, Sofa and All Mods: I apologize if I misinterpreted or over-reacted to the previous comment.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 20, 2019 14:35:06 GMT
No but seriously Jacob is the thirstiest dude in the Milky Way and I'm really curious how it's even possible to lock out his romance accidentally
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 20, 2019 15:15:02 GMT
No but seriously Jacob is the thirstiest dude in the Milky Way and I'm really curious how it's even possible to lock out his romance accidentally HI Lenny. I have never 'locked out' Jacob's romance....I've just never engaged it in the first place. Whenever I would try to engage Jacob playing as FemShep, he would always say he "didn't have time" for me, or "didn't want to talk", something along those lines. I mean normally, playing as John Shepard, I would talk to Miranda or Jack, Liara or Tali every chance I got...after every mission I did I would go talk to them and they would talk to me....And then comes their respective Loyalty Mission which I would do for them no questions asked, complete that and talk to them some more.....and then *Tada* I would be in the Romance/Relationship stage.
But with Jacob, it was never like that for me as Jane Shepard. Every single time I went to talk to him he would shut me down-- even after his Loyalty Mission, sure I would do it for him and gain his loyalty, but I couldn't begin his Romance. He always seemed to brush me off or shut me out, and I could never figure out how to engage his relationship phase as I did with other characters. And out in the field on missions even after I'd done his Loyalty mission and unlocked his unique abilities....I always found him to be useless, under-powered, not helpful...Not really good in a fire-fight and he didn't really have any powers that I didn't or couldn't already have access to (ie Overload). So I have always chosen to ignore him on my ship and not take him on missions. I'll do his Loyalty Mission in order to gain an advantage during the Suicide Run so that I can possibly have everyone survive at the End, but that's it.
More over, I just don't think he is an interestingly written character. No interesting, engaging dialogue, no quirks or sense of humour (ie Tali or Liara), no tension (ie Jack), no sense of strength, allure or mystery (ie Miranda). Just very two-dimensional. The most stereo-typically written character, I think- personally, and his ark from ME 2 to ME 3 is flat and uninteresting to me.
Jack on the other hand, as I said in my previous post....I think is the most interesting and one of the best written characters in all of ME. Right up there with Tali, I think Jack is my favourite character in the entire franchise, and my only gripe is her lack of content in ME 3. What's there is good, quite goood...But it could have been a lot more especially for those who were in a relationship with her from the events of ME 2. So much potential there, in Jack for her character, for the (potential) relationship between her and Shepard...I really enjoy what is there, I just wish it could have been more. And I suppose the same could be said for Miranda. I think she got the short end, too. That's why I'm glad they added DLC like The Citadel, because that adds content and substance for characters who might otherwise be lacking in some areas.
Anyways, to bring this back to the subject of ANTHEM and speaking about "The Women In ANTHEM".... even though they have not done any 'romances' as per their usual....If we can have moments like that of The Citadel (ie shooting bottles with Garrus, getting inked by Jack; though that is tied to her romance, I'm talking about the bonding of the moment as it is....Bailing out Grunt after he fell/jumped from the Presidium rooftop landing in the lake)....Those 'buddy moments' are just as meaningful and can be equally well written as a Romance. So if there are indeed those types of relationships with characters in ANTHEM and that quality of writing, I am sure it is going to be fulfilling.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Jan 20, 2019 18:34:15 GMT
This was done after a marketing campaign that promised real, untold WW2 stories Setting aside the ridiculous notion that the main selling point of any Battlefield game is historical accuracy, I can’t believe you fell for EA Marketing! How gullible can you be? Me "falling" for it, would imply that I bought it expecting what they said. i never bought it at all. I don't buy battlefield games, because to me, their all equally terrible. But you are correct, it was a ridiculous campaign to make historical events the main selling point. Alas, that is exactly what made up the centerpiece of their marketing, with their tacked on Battle Royal mode a close second.
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Post by Shinobu on Jan 21, 2019 19:49:07 GMT
Maybe we should just treat each other as individuals and not as representatives of some opposing faction? That is partially what I'm saying: there's very little I can assume about you simply because you say you're an SJW, because theres so many different types and beliefs among the SJWs. Now, if you had told me you were a Republican lawmaker or conservative pundit I CAN assume quite a few things, because they have routinely been anti-gaming in their rhetoric. Progressives can sometimes be annoying, but I remember who the real people trying to take away our violent, sexy games are, and it isn't some vaguely defined group of internet complainers. No offense. But yeah I guess getting back on topic, uh... the only Bioware game I can think of that had a noticeable lack of sexy women is Andromeda, and like I said earlier it was made by the amateur B-team of bioware who were mostly fired afterwards. Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence. Bioware isn't maliciously plotting to take away sexy women, they just had incompetent devs who did a bad job on that game's characters, imo. I disagree with many of the things you've said, but I'm liking your post for debating in good faith.
Bolded for truth. I agree that women in Andromeda weren't made less attractive to forward some political agenda. As I said in another thread, the Turians were much less attractive in Andromeda, but I attribute that to bad design rather than some faceless group agitating for "less objectification of aliens."
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 21, 2019 20:10:26 GMT
Sorry, I scanned through the past posts, noticed it and was so amused I have to respond. LOL... what 5 o'clock shadow? This is a literal shadow. You know, formed under her attractive prominent cheekbones? Tassyn has probably the most classic type of beauty I've seen in recent games - even comes with blond hair and blue eyes combo. She even has ridiculously long lashes
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2019 20:56:07 GMT
She has the stern librarian TM look … All she needs are eye glasses and a wooden ruler to complete the effect.
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Post by lennybusker on Jan 21, 2019 21:31:02 GMT
TBF she does look a lot better at angles than she does straight on. Jaw so square you could draw blueprints with it. Talkin bout put a cowl and pointy ears on and she'd look like a Batman TAS character.
But hey other than that she is really pretty, and so is Fay.
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Post by midnight tea on Jan 21, 2019 22:02:16 GMT
TBF she does look a lot better at angles than she does straight on. Jaw so square you could draw blueprints with it. Talkin bout put a cowl and pointy ears on and she'd look like a Batman TAS character. You mean, square jaw like Angelina Jolie's?
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 21, 2019 22:06:23 GMT
And don't forget the poofy lips.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Jan 21, 2019 22:08:03 GMT
TBF she does look a lot better at angles than she does straight on. Jaw so square you could draw blueprints with it. Talkin bout put a cowl and pointy ears on and she'd look like a Batman TAS character. You mean, square jaw like Angelina Jolie's? Don't forget about the poof-y lips
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Jan 22, 2019 8:32:15 GMT
You are not a true SJW. Dude, are you stuck in 2012? Can't you see fascism is taking over all countries? Patriarchy is going stronger than ever. Heteronormative white colonialism is everywhere oppressing sexual minorities. You like "attractive" women?... are you (may our PC comrades forgive us) fatphobic? Did you just assume their gender? Indeed transphobic too. Plus stop your mansplaining, sexism and misogyny... ladies and ma'ams don't need your toxic masculinity. Bro, you must be reeducated. There is no other solution to your bigotry. I'm reading your post as tongue-in-cheek, but nope, I'm an SJW. While there are SJW's who favor some of the positions you listed, I'd say that the number that agree with ALL of the things you said is super low. If you incorrectly assume all SJWs are that extreme it will cause you to behave defensively/antagonistically towards us when in fact that is unnecessary and counterproductive. It's unfair to judge all members of a group based on the attitudes/actions of the most extreme members.
What I'm getting at is that we can all get along and have a good discussion about games without jumping to conclusions about each others' beliefs and behaving antagonistically because of it. I would suggest that respectful debate on individual opinions is better for everyone than making divisive statements about large groups of people (whether companies, political affiliations or religious groups). One of my best gaming buddies is a Tea Party supporter. We don't talk politics most of the time and I know I can count on him to cover me in a firefight, which is really all I care about when we're trying enjoy a game together.
You're also an ableist who discriminates those who can't have their diverse LIs. You're a hindrance... a relic of a bygone era... one of the reasons why we can't achieve our progressive utopia. Keep your right wing hate speech off this campus.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2019 19:07:07 GMT
What are you talking about? I'm an SJW but I like attractive people in games. Why wouldn't I?
Dude, I'm an SJW and a feminist and I am trying to hear you without judging. I can understand where you are coming from and I have some sympathy for your POV. Are we going to continue having a moment, or are we going to pick sides? You are not a true SJW. Dude, are you stuck in 2012? Can't you see fascism is taking over all countries? Patriarchy is going stronger than ever. Heteronormative white colonialism is everywhere oppressing sexual minorities. You like "attractive" women?... are you (may our PC comrades forgive us) fatphobic? Did you just assume their gender? Indeed transphobic too. Plus stop your mansplaining, sexism and misogyny... ladies and ma'ams don't need your toxic masculinity. Bro, you must be reeducated. There is no other solution to your bigotry. Holyshit ! I know you were joking, but that paragraph seemed so realistic, It almost frightened me.
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Post by GoldenGail3 on Jan 23, 2019 0:49:49 GMT
Dude, I'm an SJW and a feminist and I am trying to hear you without judging. I can understand where you are coming from and I have some sympathy for your POV. Are we going to continue having a moment, or are we going to pick sides? Are Sjw's capable of doing this?
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Post by degs29 on Jan 28, 2019 19:52:14 GMT
Like it or not, Bioware is a progressive studio, one that plays sexual politics. As such, and in my opinion, they've been gradually toning down the sexualization of their female characters over time. That's not to say they don't have sexual themes in their games, only that they're trying to present them in a more realistic manner.
As I'm personally fond of eye candy and don't see the problems some others see in utilizing eye candy in media, I'm disappointed in Bioware taking this direction. But not surprised.
From what I've seen so far in Anthem, I believe they are continuing this objective. The only reason the characters appear better than Andromeda seems to be because of the competency of the artists.
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