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Post by midnight tea on Feb 28, 2019 23:37:50 GMT
What does the first week one way or the other tell us anyways. Isn’t a games sales more determined by whether or not there is a big drop off in later weeks? And for games like this isn’t the goal more long term participation? I mean if it is successful or not I don’t think anyone even the people at EA or BioWare will know for months to come. I guess if it ultra tanked or was super successful they’d have a idea quicker but I suspect it’s up in the air for a pretty big range of sales. more or less First week sales are only an indicator if they are really off the mark from expectations, better or worse. Plus, it would be more relevant to a title that needs to make most of its money not that long after launch.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 1, 2019 4:57:50 GMT
What does the first week one way or the other tell us anyways. Isn’t a games sales more determined by whether or not there is a big drop off in later weeks? And for games like this isn’t the goal more long term participation? I mean if it is successful or not I don’t think anyone even the people at EA or BioWare will know for months to come. I guess if it ultra tanked or was super successful they’d have a idea quicker but I suspect it’s up in the air for a pretty big range of sales. Sales within the first 90 days was usually an indicator of how successful a game launched but, with live service stretching out a game's lifelines, who knows how relevant it is anymore...
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 1, 2019 13:03:03 GMT
You make it appear like the proprietary storefront of a company would reflect anything like objective sales numbers.
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Post by therevanchist25 on Mar 1, 2019 13:07:18 GMT
You make it appear like the proprietary storefront of a company would reflect anything like objective sales numbers. Yea, because in the new era where physical sales are going the way of the dinosaur, the digitial store front showing the same game on the top sellers, twice, means no ones buying it.
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 1, 2019 13:10:21 GMT
Yea, because in the new era where physical sales are going the way of the dinosaur, the digitial store front showing the same game on the top sellers, twice, means no ones buying it. I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt that you are actually serious:
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Post by CryMeARiver on Mar 1, 2019 15:26:20 GMT
These are Japan PS4 software (Not physical) sales. www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/02/japanese_sales_charts_anthem_flies_into_first_place_on_ps4Anthem 77,938 Fallout 76 had 73,489 when it was released Anthem must be killing it right? Right? If a game about robots can't kill it in Japan then what hope does it have anywhere else? The fact is there isn't any real competition other than Apex. Hell, Anthem isn't even in the top 30 games on twitch right now. What a joke!
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 1, 2019 15:37:03 GMT
You make it appear like the proprietary storefront of a company would reflect anything like objective sales numbers. Just so I'm following, you're saying that EA is bribing Sony to change the rankings here?
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 1, 2019 15:43:24 GMT
Just so I'm following, you're saying that EA is bribing Sony to change the rankings here? No. Dude, what do stores put in their storefront?
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 1, 2019 15:46:20 GMT
These are Japan PS4 software (Not physical) sales. www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/02/japanese_sales_charts_anthem_flies_into_first_place_on_ps4Anthem 77,938 Fallout 76 had 73,489 when it was released Anthem must be killing it right? Right? If a game about robots can't kill it in Japan then what hope does it have anywhere else? The fact is there isn't any real competition other than Apex. Hell, Anthem isn't even in the top 30 games on twitch right now. What a joke! So, yeah, I am responding to a troll account but whatever... "Fallout 76" came out on a Wednesday, "Anthem" came out on a Friday...so "Anthem" really kicked it's ass Also, "Software" distinguishes it from "Hardware"...the consoles...which is directly above...it doesn't mean "Digital" You are not very good at this are you?
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Post by CryMeARiver on Mar 1, 2019 15:53:44 GMT
These are Japan PS4 software (Not physical) sales. www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/02/japanese_sales_charts_anthem_flies_into_first_place_on_ps4Anthem 77,938 Fallout 76 had 73,489 when it was released Anthem must be killing it right? Right? If a game about robots can't kill it in Japan then what hope does it have anywhere else? The fact is there isn't any real competition other than Apex. Hell, Anthem isn't even in the top 30 games on twitch right now. What a joke! So, yeah, I am responding to a troll account but whatever... "Fallout 76" came out on a Wednesday, "Anthem" came out on a Friday...so "Anthem" really kicked it's ass Also, "Software" distinguishes it from "Hardware"...the consoles...which is directly above...it doesn't mean "Digital" You are not very good at this are you? OMG. Not very bright are you? Those are day 1 sales and not cumulative. 10 secs on google...Fanboy Anatomy!
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Post by correctamundo on Mar 1, 2019 15:56:28 GMT
These are Japan PS4 software (Not physical) sales. www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/02/japanese_sales_charts_anthem_flies_into_first_place_on_ps4Anthem 77,938 Fallout 76 had 73,489 when it was released Anthem must be killing it right? Right? If a game about robots can't kill it in Japan then what hope does it have anywhere else? The fact is there isn't any real competition other than Apex. Hell, Anthem isn't even in the top 30 games on twitch right now. What a joke! You mean Bethesda Softworks third best selling Fallout game? So at least somewhere between 11 and 13 million copies?
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Post by alanc9 on Mar 1, 2019 16:28:27 GMT
Just so I'm following, you're saying that EA is bribing Sony to change the rankings here? No. Dude, what do stores put in their storefront? This game isn't interesting enough for me to play. If you've got a point, make it.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 1, 2019 16:36:58 GMT
Oooh, you must be excited at the possibility...
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 1, 2019 16:37:31 GMT
These are Japan PS4 software (Not physical) sales. www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/02/japanese_sales_charts_anthem_flies_into_first_place_on_ps4Anthem 77,938 Fallout 76 had 73,489 when it was released Anthem must be killing it right? Right? If a game about robots can't kill it in Japan then what hope does it have anywhere else? The fact is there isn't any real competition other than Apex. Hell, Anthem isn't even in the top 30 games on twitch right now. What a joke! You mean Bethesda Softworks third best selling Fallout game? So at least somewhere between 11 and 13 million copies? Troll account...hit and run, pay it no mind
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 1, 2019 16:38:38 GMT
No. Dude, what do stores put in their storefront? This game isn't interesting enough for me to play. If you've got a point, make it. Shiny things in the private storefront of some private company don't represent any objective market data.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 1, 2019 16:45:21 GMT
This game isn't interesting enough for me to play. If you've got a point, make it. Shiny things in the private storefront of some private company don't represent any objective market data. A week later and both PS4 digital versions of "Anthem" are listed as #1 and #2 on Amazon's "Best Sellers" list...it's also the top selling full priced PC game there are well. Are these skewed in some way? I am legitimately asking as I don't for certain if Amazon and EA can conspire to manipulate this in some way or if it truly demonstrates legit sales rankings.
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 1, 2019 16:50:21 GMT
Additionally, a week after launch, I am not seeing any discounts at any of the major video game sellers which wasn't the case for something like "Fallout 76" which was discounted $20 pretty soon after release.
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 1, 2019 17:03:10 GMT
This game isn't interesting enough for me to play. If you've got a point, make it. Shiny things in the private storefront of some private company don't represent any objective market data. Ok, but then is a privately conducted chart of physical sales from one country in a world where physical sales are becoming swiftly and increasingly irrelevant? I think it can be concluded that all we can operate on are either not objective or partial (therefore skewed) results and that the full(er?) picture will emerge months from now, if not later, given that Anthem is not a traditional game with traditional sales cycle.
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Post by bshep on Mar 1, 2019 17:12:09 GMT
Shiny things in the private storefront of some private company don't represent any objective market data. A week later and both PS4 digital versions of "Anthem" are listed as #1 and #2 on Amazon's "Best Sellers" list...it's also the top selling full priced PC game there are well. Are these skewed in some way? I am legitimately asking as I don't for certain if Amazon and EA can conspire to manipulate this in some way or if it truly demonstrates legit sales rankings. Well it registrate the sales in those places, i doubt there is some kind of conspiracy between EA and Amazon to put its games in the top selling list, like why EA and not Ubisoft instead. That would be kinda of a tinfoil hat level of conspiracy.
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Post by lennybusker on Mar 1, 2019 17:16:56 GMT
I forgot about viewership on Twitch, just curious where Anthem is a- i.imgur.com/TVy8HZC.pngAhh, well at least we're beating Destiny 2. To be fair this is noon on Friday, I'll check again around say, 7 PM.
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Post by nanotm on Mar 1, 2019 17:30:56 GMT
I forgot about viewership on Twitch, just curious where Anthem is a- i.imgur.com/TVy8HZC.pngAhh, well at least we're beating Destiny 2. To be fair this is noon on Friday, I'll check again around say, 7 PM. this would be a better resource twitchtracker.com/statistics/gamesand currently anthem is ranked 13th, with an average of 17k viewers per day, not bad when you consider its only got a total of 549 streamers compared to other games higher up the list which regularly have more than 2000 streamers.... never saw the point in watching other peoples streams myself (walkthroughs are one thing but seriously streaming live game play is just boring I'd rather be playing, unless its a tournament and I'm watching a friend do better than me, which basically mirrors my view on sports in general, and I'm even less inclined to watching them now I'm disabled than I was back when I was actively taking part in things) still as far as metrics go its good news for EA on a new game in its first month of going live.... now they just need content updates or expansions to boost the player numbers
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Post by Pounce de León on Mar 1, 2019 17:51:38 GMT
Shiny things in the private storefront of some private company don't represent any objective market data. Ok, but then is a privately conducted chart of physical sales from one country in a world where physical sales are becoming swiftly and increasingly irrelevant? I think it can be concluded that all we can operate on are either not objective or partial (therefore skewed) results and that the full(er?) picture will emerge months from now, if not later, given that Anthem is not a traditional game with traditional sales cycle. Look, stores want to sell their stuff. Putting the label top seller on an item and placing it prominently is to make it more attractive. That's pretty much it until they also disclose numbers of sales and they usually dont. That doesnt neither mean the game doesnt sell - it's just a poor method trying to argue it does sell.
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