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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 21, 2016 1:10:17 GMT
So let me get this straight: because I tell you that you are wrong when you try to deduce a cultural trend out of a stupid and childish misrepresentation of facts (which as I said before I do not in any way approve) I am smug and anti-American? Well, at least we're agreeing misrepresentation of facts is stupid and childish (if true). That's progress. Canada shares (or borrows) a fair amount of its culture and entertainment from the US. Very few Canadians are not exposed to it on a daily basis. Our economies are also intertwined. Where the countries differ are politics and political culture. Canadians and Americans historically have assigned different weights to different values. By way of example, while both countries value freedom of expression, it is more limited in Canada. I am an American. I have lived in Canada. I prefer America. But that does not mean Canada lacks culture, lacks a different culture or is defective in any way. I simply prefer my native land. If other people prefer other lands, then that does not diminish my country in any way. They are, and should be, free to be wrong different. Well put. To clarify, the takeaway should never be Canada lacks culture or is defective. Far from it. But the statements of our culture requires an outside source to formulate. Our freedom of expression is "like America's, but..." Our political system is "like the UK's but...". This is a thing I think needs improvement. You say "this is an American viewpoint, this is a British viewpoint" people know exactly what you're talking about. You say "this is a Canadian viewpoint" people go "huh?" Unless it's a stereotype of course.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 21, 2016 1:34:45 GMT
You didn't bring up Canadian soldiers in response to that, you brought them up as examples that anti-Americanism doesn't exist. But even applied against that, it doesn't hold up. Almost every country in the world has a standing military and any country who's ever fought anyone has had soldiers go off to war and die. Do you really "measure patriotism" by those numbers? Or how about a different question: I have zero intention of ever enlisting in the military. Am I incapable of patriotism? Uneventful military service is not the norm for the majority of people in well-off Western countries, let alone fighting a war and dying in it; US included. So why then would you bring it up when I am discussing a very normal, very civilian affair? I went to Vegas as a tourist. Some of those people in that German bar were probably tourists too. If I go down to Niagara Falls, there'll probably be some tourists there too, from the US or other places. What great Canadian act within the context of normal civilian/tourist activities will show national pride comparable to what I saw in Vegas? Am I saying we need to break out in O Canada at every meal? No, but what is that we do (even once in a while) in the context of our every day lives that shows pride in our country? Quote where he said all Canadians are anti-American. At most what I recall was reference to an identifiable social trend of anti-Americanism among some Canadians. Something which is well documented. I was going to link some stuff, but honestly, there's so much on even the first page of Google, it'd be a waste of effort. Seriously, just look it up. Say? No. Imply? When a foreigner comes and tells me that our people are smug and condescending, building a whole theory about our shortcomings as a nation out of a nonexistent museum I react. What does where he's from have to do with it? Tell you what, pretend he's an ethnic minority and swap out the word foreigner for the proper word (doesn't even have to be a slur) for that minority. Like how it sounds? (this very phenomenon is illustrated in the Aussie article he linked btw). Earlier you also imply he's "less qualified" to venture an opinion on Canadian social trends on the same basis. Say what? So he can't read studies and articles or come up here and interview people and collate his findings because he's not a resident? Hawkeye actually makes the same clam in the first page of wrongthink when he told a European poster his opinion on American politics didn't matter. To both cases I call bullshit. Whether you have an opinion worth hearing or not is based on how well sourced it is, not trivial crap like where your legal permanent address falls, or which side of a border you came out your mother. I am completely apathetic politically and I couldn't care less- thus I can almost guarantee Hawkeye, an American, would have a more informed and thus valuable opinion on Canadian politics than I would. Similarly there's likely Americans out there just like me or worse and you could probably teach them a thing or two about their own system. It's not who you are, it's what you know, and what you can argue. Here is the quote: " Maybe not directly, but you (Canada as a whole) do have a vocal base of anti-Americanism which is grounded in how you define yourself in comparison to the United States, rather than for your own regard." Which part of "Canada as a whole has a vocal base of anti-Americanism" do you need me to explain? Or does base mean a minority as in some? Also "So presumptuous that you categorically deny fault for Canada indefinitely" - does he say some Canadians in this? I did not say he's not qualified to have an opinion regarding Canada. Anybody can have opinions regarding everything. I said that as long as he's not living here the sample with which he works is not statistically significant. And please point me to the scientific study that says Canadians are most of them anti-American.
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Post by docsteely on Oct 21, 2016 1:47:18 GMT
So let me get this straight: because I tell you that you are wrong when you try to deduce a cultural trend out of a stupid and childish misrepresentation of facts (which as I said before I do not in any way approve) I am smug and anti-American? Well, at least we're agreeing misrepresentation of facts is stupid and childish (if true). That's progress.Canada shares (or borrows) a fair amount of its culture and entertainment from the US. Very few Canadians are not exposed to it on a daily basis. Our economies are also intertwined. Where the countries differ are politics and political culture. Canadians and Americans historically have assigned different weights to different values. By way of example, while both countries value freedom of expression, it is more limited in Canada. I am an American. I have lived in Canada. I prefer America. But that does not mean Canada lacks culture, lacks a different culture or is defective in any way. I simply prefer my native land. If other people prefer other lands, then that does not diminish my country in any way. They are, and should be, free to be wrong different. Well put. To clarify, the takeaway should never be Canada lacks culture or is defective. Far from it. But the statements of our culture requires an outside source to formulate. Our freedom of expression is "like America's, but..." Our political system is "like the UK's but...". This is a thing I think needs improvement. You say "this is an American viewpoint, this is a British viewpoint" people know exactly what you're talking about. You say "this is a Canadian viewpoint" people go "huh?" Unless it's a stereotype of course. 1. No, it's not. Because I did not call you smug. Both you and Hawkeye did. 2. Please elaborate on how our freedom of expression is "like America's, but..."
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Oct 21, 2016 1:51:29 GMT
Vancouver's nice, but there are some places further north in both BC, Yukon, and Alaska that are even better in my opinion. <snip> ... I take it you like winter? -descends- ALASKA IS AWESOME. SNOW IS AWESOME. I'm going skiing this weekend, and the ocean's frozen up so the polar bears are starting to leave. I will note that I spent six months on cultural exchange in Costa Rica in high school. Then I went to the lower 48* for college and I think I actually had more culture shock trouble with college. Somehow, it was worse because they were speaking my language and technically it was my country... But with fences and people and small stores everywhere. *Alaska-ism for the continental United States
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Post by mousestalker on Oct 21, 2016 1:55:23 GMT
Section 2 of the Canadian Charter of Freedom "Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: (a) freedom of conscience and religion; ( freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;" It sounds remarkably similar to the US First Amendment which of course it should as the drafters had the US Constitution in front of them when they drew it up. But, Section 1 provides "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society." There is no such restriction to the U S Constitutional rights. For example, Section 1 has been interpreted to allow prohibition of hate speech. So the two are similar, but not the same. Canada is not special in using bits of the U S Constitution. Just about every Constitution drafted after the American has been drafted with an awareness of what was contained in the U S Constitution. This includes the old Soviet Constitution as well. It makes sense if you think about it. Constitutions are basic law. If you are drafting one, you'd want to study the earlier examples to see what works and what doesn't and what is required to ensure a functioning government.
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Post by Steelcan on Oct 21, 2016 2:07:12 GMT
lol Canada, that is all
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 21, 2016 2:28:00 GMT
Here is the quote: " Maybe not directly, but you (Canada as a whole) do have a vocal base of anti-Americanism which is grounded in how you define yourself in comparison to the United States, rather than for your own regard." Which part of "Canada as a whole has a vocal base of anti-Americanism" do you need me to explain? Or does base mean a minority as in some? Also "So presumptuous that you categorically deny fault for Canada indefinitely" - does he say some Canadians in this? I did not say he's not qualified to have an opinion regarding Canada. Anybody can have opinions regarding everything. I said that as long as he's not living here the sample with which he works is not statistically significant. And please point me to the scientific study that says Canadians are most of them anti-American. sigh... So it's come down to language lessons then? Fine. 1. "but you (Canada as a whole)" = all of Canada. 2. "do have a (a)vocal (b)base"= (a) outspoken, expressive and ( part of your country, implied at a fundamental level. Last I checked a base is not the whole of an object, you also have the middle, the top etc. So the whole thing together is saying a part of Canada is outspoken against America and this is at the root of the nation. You could maybe contest the last part, although we do have a history of literally fearing American invasion so even that could have justification. The point is aggregate terms =/= "all", or every single individual in a given group. Which given the stupidity of making such a literal statement about any group of people should clue you in that this is not what was meant. Unless you have an interest in derailing the argument in pointless directions. Also for the second quote, he doesn't have to specify "some". To "categorically deny" literally means an unqualified absolute refusal of the assertion or argument in question. He's saying you yourself are absolutely denying any fault being attributed to Canada at any point. All of Canada or some of Canada is irrelevant at that point because you're flat out refusing to engage the topic. Something that's kinda true to be honest. The "sample"...? Why are you so hung up on statistics? Social trend =/= some defined fraction of Canadians. It's an aggregate observed behavior, punctuated by specific examples. This isn't some new claim either. It's a known, well-documented fact. Seriously, look it up. I'm not going to do your research for you. Start as everyone does, with Google and Wikipedia and work back through the sources. 1. No, it's not. Because I did not call you smug. Both you and Hawkeye did. 2. Please elaborate on how our freedom of expression is "like America's, but..." mousestalker has handled the second admirably. As for the first, is this one word the reason you're be so stubborn and unresponsive to the simplest arguments? If it were to be withdrawn, would you debate in good faith?
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Post by docsteely on Oct 21, 2016 3:08:02 GMT
Here is the quote: " Maybe not directly, but you (Canada as a whole) do have a vocal base of anti-Americanism which is grounded in how you define yourself in comparison to the United States, rather than for your own regard." Which part of "Canada as a whole has a vocal base of anti-Americanism" do you need me to explain? Or does base mean a minority as in some? Also "So presumptuous that you categorically deny fault for Canada indefinitely" - does he say some Canadians in this? I did not say he's not qualified to have an opinion regarding Canada. Anybody can have opinions regarding everything. I said that as long as he's not living here the sample with which he works is not statistically significant. And please point me to the scientific study that says Canadians are most of them anti-American. sigh... So it's come down to language lessons then? Fine. 1. "but you (Canada as a whole)" = all of Canada. 2. "do have a (a)vocal (b)base"= (a) outspoken, expressive and ( part of your country, implied at a fundamental level. Last I checked a base is not the whole of an object, you also have the middle, the top etc. So the whole thing together is saying a part of Canada is outspoken against America and this is at the root of the nation. You could maybe contest the last part, although we do have a history of literally fearing American invasion so even that could have justification. The point is aggregate terms =/= "all", or every single individual in a given group. Which given the stupidity of making such a literal statement about any group of people should clue you in that this is not what was meant. Unless you have an interest in derailing the argument in pointless directions. Also for the second quote, he doesn't have to specify "some". To "categorically deny" literally means an unqualified absolute refusal of the assertion or argument in question. He's saying you yourself are absolutely denying any fault being attributed to Canada at any point. All of Canada or some of Canada is irrelevant at that point because you're flat out refusing to engage the topic. Something that's kinda true to be honest. The "sample"...? Why are you so hung up on statistics? Social trend =/= some defined fraction of Canadians. It's an aggregate observed behavior, punctuated by specific examples. This isn't some new claim either. It's a known, well-documented fact. Seriously, look it up. I'm not going to do your research for you. Start as everyone does, with Google and Wikipedia and work back through the sources. 1. No, it's not. Because I did not call you smug. Both you and Hawkeye did. 2. Please elaborate on how our freedom of expression is "like America's, but..." mousestalker has handled the second admirably. As for the first, is this one word the reason you're be so stubborn and unresponsive to the simplest arguments? If it were to be withdrawn, would you debate in good faith? OK. This is enough. First you call me smug. You continue by giving me lessons in language. After that you continue by accusing me that I do not debate in good faith and I have a hidden interest in derailing this thread. I thought that this forum would be different. But it's not. We have the same bullies (trolls) like The Hype Himself who can call with impunity anyone in anyway they want. And why would we need any mods from Bioware? We have people like you. I will never again post in this part of the forum.
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Post by ToLazy4Name on Oct 21, 2016 3:23:49 GMT
america a best
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Post by CrutchCricket on Oct 21, 2016 3:47:11 GMT
OK. This is enough. First you call me smug. You continue by giving me lessons in language. After that you continue by accusing me that I do not debate in good faith and I have a hidden interest in derailing this thread. I thought that this forum would be different. But it's not. We have the same bullies (trolls) like The Hype Himself who can call with impunity anyone in anyway they want. And why would we need any mods from Bioware? We have people like you. I will never again post in this part of the forum. Ok, look. I'm not sure why the word "smug" is such a hot button with you- it's not like anyone's calling you an asshole or otherwise insulting you. I can't speak for Hawkeye but I don't consider smug to have inherent negative connotations, even if the word means " undue pride in x". But if you're really taking it this personally I for one apologize. Please note, I'm not required to, the forum expectations clearly state there will be conflicting opinions that may not be to everyone's sensibilities and so long as there is no malicious intent or outright attacks, this is perfectly ok. We are not interested in babying anyone. I have not been malicious and I have tried to reason with you. I don't believe Hawkeye is a troll (not in this case, anyway), but both he and I approach discussions like this from a logical argumentative/ debate point of view. We make assertions, draw conclusions and counter arguments that other people make and we expect the same in return, until we reach some synthesis of opinions or break off the debate. We don't really encounter or respond to immutable opinions that if attacked, cause people to get offended and leave all that often. Personally I don't believe that's the best way to participate in discussions like this, but I won't tell you your business. Anyway, I'll let Hawkeye speak for himself if he has anything to add. For myself I will apologize again for calling you smug or implying you didn't post in good faith. It may simply be that I misjudged how you handle these things and assume you do as I do.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2016 4:27:29 GMT
I'm new to this thread, only read the first two pages before skipping to page 7 ... so apologize if this has already been covered ...
Comment about Americans not knowing much about Canadians. I would say that most Americans don't know that much about America. Not out of maliciousness or anything, but in part because the country is fairly large and folks know most about where they live and what is focused upon in the media and entertainment industry. So, if you are part of "Flyover Country" ... like Nebraska, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, Oklahoma ... there are folks who live on the coasts who probably don't know a whole lot about you.
Three cases in point.
Runner's World, in the latest edition, named Omaha as the ninth best city to run in, across the US. Things they found astounding (besides ranking so high) ... Omaha has a lot of hills. Omaha has a lot of running trails. Well, yeah, but that is not the stereotype of Nebraska or of flyover country. Now, get west of Omaha and you'd be right about how flat it is. Running trails, not so much.
Annual visits from New York customers. The husband of one of my relatives works for an energy company. They host a trip to Omaha, during the College World Series, for various Wall Street clients. They do this every year. Each year, they have folks who are amazed that the streets are paved. They love going to this crappy steak place (The Drover), because it matches their stereotype of what a restaurant is like in Nebraska. I tried the place, it sucks. But the NYC folks ask to go there, every year ... for "authentic" Midwestern cuisine.
My youngest sister grew up in Omaha, but spent most of her adult life in CA. She recently moved to WA. She came to visit, prior to moving to WA and was amazed that we actually had national brands in the grocery stores. Yee-haaaaw.
What's my point? ... a lot of America is very provincial (that includes places like NYC) ... mostly because the country is large and you can mostly live a very nice life anywhere. So unless there is a huge draw to somewhere else ... relatives, tourism, job or being in the military, it is quite possible to know very little about the rest of the country, past TV shows. So ... not personal, just human nature ... if you have not been there and you don't see much in the way of a place in movies or TV (even if Vancouver is a stand-in for an American city) ... then you probably don't know much about Canada. Because, like "flyover country" ... Canada doesn't get a lot of TV shows or movies about it. So ... I'll be provincial and blame Hollywood. [that is a joke]
Side note ... I was in the military, so I got to experience a lot of America ... to include Alaska. Sadly, while I flew over Hawaii, never went there. But other than that, I've been to most of the states in the US ... exceptions being New England, mostly. While I've been to Canada, I certainly don't consider myself any kind of expert. Any more than I consider myself an expert about Australia or England ... other places I've been to visit, but never lived.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 21, 2016 6:08:18 GMT
I'll be honest with you, I personally don't understand the dislike many Americans have for the French. Sure, you're smug bastards, but that's just who you are. It's always been apart of your cultural identity to be mildly xenophobic (in the charming way, and I do say that with unironic conviction). You aren't all that bad. Granted, I think Paris is way overrated as a destination. I preferred the Riviera, for a variety of reasons. Plus, the people who live on the Mediterranean are much more equal-opportunity in their dismissive attitudes: it doesn't matter if you're an American or Brit or German or even a Parisian. You're a dirty tourist who's crowding up all the good beaches. Dislike? Are you talking about me. I was just sharing my sister's and BIL's experience in Paris for a few days. And they do not dislike the French or any other ethnic group. No, I was speaking in general man, not to you.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 21, 2016 6:18:20 GMT
Let me ask you something. What does it mean to be Canadian? Oh, by the way, I never said all Canadians are anti-American; case in point, Crutch. I said that there is a cultural trend towards anti-Americanism via passive-aggressiveness, smugness (including you right now, yes), and distaste. By no means are you the only country its limited too. Many Aussies and Kiwis hold negative opinions of the United States, as do many Europeans. As I said as well, what example would you accept? You're being incredibly defensive against my assertion, and I'm refraining from listing any experience out of worry that you'd simply move the goalpost. What I've stated can really only be measured indirectly; you can't really make up a poll that says 'are you anti-American' and how (well you could, but it's like racism, in that even the most vociferous racist will often state that they aren't bigoted and fight vehemently against the assertion.) As it is, to be honest, I would label your interaction with me as showing the exact temperament I might find in a Canadian who doesn't hold a positive opinion of Americans. Now, I don't know if that's the case or not, but you're certainly acting that way towards me.
So let me get this straight: because I tell you that you are wrong when you try to deduce a cultural trend out of a stupid and childish misrepresentation of facts (which as I said before I do not in any way approve) I am smug and anti-American? What would you say to others (including other Canadians) who themselves provide examples of such a cultural trend? I think you're in full tilt denial over the existence of such a trend in your culture here (which is fine, since no one wants their own culture to be criticized really). As I said, I doubt very highly that I could provide an example you would even accept. And as for your denial of an issue? Well, that would seem rather blindly patriotic on your part (oh the irony!). And yes, not the least bit smug, since you categorically dismiss the idea that such a notion could possibly exist in Canada. Have you ever bothered to check out this sentiment with your own research? It's one google search away.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 21, 2016 10:10:00 GMT
... I take it you like winter? -descends- ALASKA IS AWESOME. SNOW IS AWESOME. I'm going skiing this weekend, and the ocean's frozen up so the polar bears are starting to leave. I will note that I spent six months on cultural exchange in Costa Rica in high school. Then I went to the lower 48* for college and I think I actually had more culture shock trouble with college. Somehow, it was worse because they were speaking my language and technically it was my country... But with fences and people and small stores everywhere. *Alaska-ism for the continental United States There. Proof that Alaska should be part of Canada! It's not fair to keep you guys away from the good life in your frozen prison up there. At least Canadians don't know any better. You do have them hot springs though. Hmmmm... I envy your snow a bit though. I've only been to Alaska in that one month in summer when things actually aren't frozen (not ALL of them anyway) and it was AWESOME, so I can't actually tell what -20°F feels like. But at least when it's this cold the sky is blue, right??? I don't see the sun for weeks and months in Germany winter where it rains 90% of the time. The last time our tiny pond was frozen over enough to skate was several years ago, I believe. No wonder Germans (and Brits!) are so negative. Our weather sucks the joy out of everything. I'd send you a picture from my office window but I'm not allowed to do that. But it's GRAY. Fu*king gray all day!
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Post by ScumbagShepurd on Oct 21, 2016 10:11:30 GMT
Canada brought people Bioware, Celine Dion, Michael J Fox, Avril Lavigne ( ), Ryan Reynolds, Dwayne Johnson, Hayden Christensen and Keanu Reeves. Canada is awesome just saying would actually love to live there its my go-to plan if the US gets in a kerfuffle and is full of hosers U forgot 'bout Justin Bieber. What a guy! Justifies Canada's existence.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 21, 2016 11:03:14 GMT
america a best all other countries a shit I'm honestly half tempted to agree.
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Post by mattig89ch on Oct 21, 2016 11:28:01 GMT
I hope nobody minds if I don't go through 7 pages of dialog to get caught up on this thead. I was skimming around page 4, about to give up and look elseware, and I read this excerpt. And I have to say, I love how Texans are singled out as a sub culture. No other state is its own subculture, just Texas. Being from NY, I found this hilarious.
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Post by corpusdei on Oct 21, 2016 11:30:41 GMT
Thing is, IMO, Americans and French are the same. I mean we both are arrogant (in our own way), we both think we are the true founders of democracy, we both are preachy etc. Nothing will change that for a long time, but individually, Americans or French people can be great Well you did kind of hand them their country by siding with the colonials in their upstart rebellion - you'd think they'd be more grateful ... and you gave them that bloody great statue plopped in New York harbour.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 21, 2016 11:56:13 GMT
Thing is, IMO, Americans and French are the same. I mean we both are arrogant (in our own way), we both think we are the true founders of democracy, we both are preachy etc. Nothing will change that for a long time, but individually, Americans or French people can be great Well you did kind of hand them their country by siding with the colonials in their upstart rebellion - you'd think they'd be more grateful ... and you gave them that bloody great statue plopped in New York harbour. America gave France back a statue in 2006 though.
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Post by Morlanwen on Oct 21, 2016 11:57:47 GMT
Well you did kind of hand them their country by siding with the colonials in their upstart rebellion - you'd think they'd be more grateful ... and you gave them that bloody great statue plopped in New York harbour. Well, offically, we help them... unofficially it was just an occasion to fight the United Kingdoms (France and UK love/hate each other since 1066 A.D.). And U.S.A. can say the same: they came in WW2 to help (that is the officially thing, there is always more. (No, we would not be talking German, and no, De Gaulle was not a dictator as Roosevelt said... always more and my english is too bad to talk about things like this ... even my french is not good enough )).
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Post by corpusdei on Oct 21, 2016 12:08:32 GMT
Britain and France are like the estranged parents* who raised America - and we're both hoping it'll pay for our retirement home now that we're getting on a bit * (probably a lesbian relationship between Marianne and Britannia ... unless you want to use your Coq emblem, then you get to wear the trousers obviously)
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Post by docsteely on Oct 21, 2016 12:47:12 GMT
OK. This is enough. First you call me smug. You continue by giving me lessons in language. After that you continue by accusing me that I do not debate in good faith and I have a hidden interest in derailing this thread. I thought that this forum would be different. But it's not. We have the same bullies (trolls) like The Hype Himself who can call with impunity anyone in anyway they want. And why would we need any mods from Bioware? We have people like you. I will never again post in this part of the forum. Ok, look. I'm not sure why the word "smug" is such a hot button with you- it's not like anyone's calling you an asshole or otherwise insulting you. I can't speak for Hawkeye but I don't consider smug to have inherent negative connotations, even if the word means " undue pride in x". But if you're really taking it this personally I for one apologize. Please note, I'm not required to, the forum expectations clearly state there will be conflicting opinions that may not be to everyone's sensibilities and so long as there is no malicious intent or outright attacks, this is perfectly ok. We are not interested in babying anyone. I have not been malicious and I have tried to reason with you. I don't believe Hawkeye is a troll (not in this case, anyway), but both he and I approach discussions like this from a logical argumentative/ debate point of view. We make assertions, draw conclusions and counter arguments that other people make and we expect the same in return, until we reach some synthesis of opinions or break off the debate. We don't really encounter or respond to immutable opinions that if attacked, cause people to get offended and leave all that often. Personally I don't believe that's the best way to participate in discussions like this, but I won't tell you your business. Anyway, I'll let Hawkeye speak for himself if he has anything to add. For myself I will apologize again for calling you smug or implying you didn't post in good faith. It may simply be that I misjudged how you handle these things and assume you do as I do. It is I who should be apologizing to you, because the diagnostic was right in front of me this whole time. Yes, I take great pride in being Canadian. That this pride is "undue" is another story, which I do not intend to pursue. What I want you to examine (and I would appreciate if you did so in good faith) is the reaction and the posts of your friend, who, by chance, happens to be American. As soon as he sees that I react violently to being called smug he makes sure to do it almost every time. So let me get this straight: because I tell you that you are wrong when you try to deduce a cultural trend out of a stupid and childish misrepresentation of facts (which as I said before I do not in any way approve) I am smug and anti-American? And as for your denial of an issue? Well, that would seem rather blindly patriotic on your part (oh the irony!). And yes, not the least bit smug, since you categorically dismiss the idea that such a notion could possibly exist in Canada. Have you ever bothered to check out this sentiment with your own research? It's one google search away. Do not worry, mate, pal, I can Google alright. Now will you call me anti-American because I tell you, personally, to Google : "pulling the wings off of flies"?
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 21, 2016 13:05:11 GMT
Britain and France are like the estranged parents* who raised America - and we're both hoping it'll pay for our retirement home now that we're getting on a bit * (probably a lesbian relationship between Marianne and Britannia ... unless you want to use your Coq emblem, then you get to wear the trousers obviously)I always pictured England as a girl tbh
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 21, 2016 13:24:43 GMT
Vancouver's nice, but there are some places further north in both BC, Yukon, and Alaska that are even better in my opinion. <snip> ... I take it you like winter? I do, and I love the mountains. I trained at Ft. Wainwright in Alaska for Northern Warfare (the US Army's polar/arctic training center), and I love it.
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Post by Verfallen on Oct 21, 2016 13:46:42 GMT
... I take it you like winter? I do, and I love the mountains. I trained at Ft. Wainwright in Alaska for Northern Warfare (the US Army's polar/arctic training center), and I love it. Cool. I live in Vancouver where Canada's reputation as a repository for all things wintery falls to pieces under the onslaught of rain, so I can see why you'd prefer more northern climes.
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