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Post by kaind on Apr 2, 2017 11:15:57 GMT
Well, yeah. Thats why I asked for more options to be added. They won't, they have progressively dumbed down roleplay in both Mass effect and Dragon age games from game to game. They won't suddenly change direction. Gameplay, story and romance are their main focuses.
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Post by KLGChaos on Apr 2, 2017 11:23:41 GMT
Give me real choices. Give me different paths. Give me the feeling that I am roleplaying. That's all I ask. No more four (even though it's only two for most of the game) different tones to deliver the exact same answer. There are a lot of different choices you can make in the game. They don't have a conversation state added to them though.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 2, 2017 12:48:53 GMT
Give me real choices. Give me different paths. Give me the feeling that I am roleplaying. That's all I ask. No more four (even though it's only two for most of the game) different tones to deliver the exact same answer. There are a lot of different choices you can make in the game. They don't have a conversation state added to them though. Virtually all those choices are the nice guy choices.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 2, 2017 13:09:41 GMT
Yes. Bring back renegade/ruthless.
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Post by duskwanderer on Apr 2, 2017 14:50:27 GMT
You don't need to be Renegade to have a spine. There are a number of Paragon uses that are more like "You're making me kill you. Don't make me do that."
I agree Ryder is way too spineless.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 2, 2017 15:01:48 GMT
You don't need to be Renegade to have a spine. There are a number of Paragon uses that are more like "You're making me kill you. Don't make me do that." I agree Ryder is way too spineless. Atm it seems to be you play as either : Professional Patherfinder or Adventurer Pathfinder and there's room for more than just that.
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Post by LilTIM on Apr 2, 2017 21:59:03 GMT
Meeting the pirate boss in Liam's loyalty mission, autodialogue: "it doesn't have to be this way!".
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Post by peabuddie on Apr 2, 2017 23:58:10 GMT
Sometimes I want to tell my crew to fall in line and show the proper respect. It isn't a military mission, though, and sisRyder is more scientist than soldier. Her time in the Alliance was spent assisting researchers with Prothean artifacts. But yeah. It can be annoying. Shepard was the baddest baddass human in the galaxy, with a galactic license to kill. Maybe we were a bit spoiled. Indeed, we truly were...
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Post by Blast Processor on Apr 3, 2017 0:21:40 GMT
Ryder's reaction every time he or she is insulted. While I have always hated dialogue interrupts I agree that this game is sorely lacking in renegade dialogue.
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Post by auu on Apr 3, 2017 0:38:14 GMT
Never understood the obsession with every character having to be badass and walking all over people. I like how Ryder is different. I didn't want a Shep clone. Never understood the obsession with every character being a people pleaser. It's a fun alternative for those of us that like to role play.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 3, 2017 0:46:12 GMT
Never understood the obsession with every character having to be badass and walking all over people. I like how Ryder is different. I didn't want a Shep clone. Never understood the obsession with every character being a people pleaser. It's a fun alternative for those of us that like to role play. It makes you wonder how many people have actually missed out on so much of Mass Effect thinking it was a jerk button.
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Post by auu on Apr 3, 2017 0:48:44 GMT
Never understood the obsession with every character being a people pleaser. It's a fun alternative for those of us that like to role play. It makes you wonder how many people have actually missed out on so much of Mass Effect thinking it was a jerk button. It makes you wonder how may people have actually missed out on so much of Mass Effect thinking it was a cupcake button.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 3, 2017 1:20:20 GMT
It makes you wonder how many people have actually missed out on so much of Mass Effect thinking it was a jerk button. It makes you wonder how may people have actually missed out on so much of Mass Effect thinking it was a cupcake button. My mind is blown.
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Post by General Mahad on Apr 3, 2017 1:29:57 GMT
Even the Inquisitior had a hardass streak. Incredible how much dialogue choice BioWare stripped from Andromeda.
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Post by General Mahad on Apr 3, 2017 1:54:56 GMT
Some people think that even with potentially up to five choices they can only be pure renegade or pure paragon. I played my Shepard as someone who will kick your ass if you go over the line but will still offer a shoulder to cry on. Maybe having more than two binary choices leads to a more rounded character?
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Post by warrior on Apr 3, 2017 2:04:46 GMT
I have to admit when i came across two robbers still standing over a corpse and the Asari robber called Ryder a bitch and he backed off with no input on my end,was not a happy bunny. Also that mouthy guard in Kadaara needed a slap across the grid! Yeah this was immersion-breaking for me. I was like...wait, what? All we get is backing away or "Looting is wrong!"???? I mean, at least a sarcastic option w/ the retreat would have helped. I almost reloaded the save to rewrite the story (so I could walk past them/ignore them instead of my Ryder acting like such a prissy wuss).
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 3, 2017 2:29:36 GMT
Some people think that even with potentially up to five choices they can only be pure renegade or pure paragon. I played my Shepard as someone who will kick your ass if you go over the line but will still offer a shoulder to cry on. Maybe having more than two binary choices leads to a more rounded character? Well said.
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Post by peabuddie on Apr 3, 2017 2:34:59 GMT
I desperately wanted a "piss off" interrupt or option for moshea (sp?). She's all yelling about how I didn't do anything for her people and I'm like wtf are you talking about you crazy ol' hag? I just spent the better part of two flipping days doing every goddamn silly fucking quest for your silly ass people and rescuing you...the only reason I picked rescuing the others instead of burning that base to the ground is so I could bang jaal. Get over yourself bitch. Sadly, that was not an option. Amen, that lecture pissed me off to no end! Care nothing for your people? WTH? I just saved a bunch of them! and you. Whatever get out of my face.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 3, 2017 3:40:53 GMT
I desperately wanted a "piss off" interrupt or option for moshea (sp?). She's all yelling about how I didn't do anything for her people and I'm like wtf are you talking about you crazy ol' hag? I just spent the better part of two flipping days doing every goddamn silly fucking quest for your silly ass people and rescuing you...the only reason I picked rescuing the others instead of burning that base to the ground is so I could bang jaal. Get over yourself bitch. Sadly, that was not an option. Amen, that lecture pissed me off to no end! Care nothing for your people? WTH? I just saved a bunch of them! and you. Whatever get out of my face. Yeah that left me scratching my head a little too. So saving a bunch of your people means I don't care about your people? Is she secretly the reaper's creator? (I'm making machines to kill you so you don't make machines that will kill you)
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 3, 2017 5:35:01 GMT
I desperately wanted a "piss off" interrupt or option for moshea (sp?). She's all yelling about how I didn't do anything for her people and I'm like wtf are you talking about you crazy ol' hag? I just spent the better part of two flipping days doing every goddamn silly fucking quest for your silly ass people and rescuing you...the only reason I picked rescuing the others instead of burning that base to the ground is so I could bang jaal. Get over yourself bitch. Sadly, that was not an option. Amen, that lecture pissed me off to no end! Care nothing for your people? WTH? I just saved a bunch of them! and you. Whatever get out of my face. I'm adding to the OP.
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Post by Lavochkin on Apr 3, 2017 5:54:25 GMT
Some people think that even with potentially up to five choices they can only be pure renegade or pure paragon. I played my Shepard as someone who will kick your ass if you go over the line but will still offer a shoulder to cry on. Maybe having more than two binary choices leads to a more rounded character? Yep, I like rolling with a character that has no qualms feeding an enemy feet first into a wood chipper but would traverse hell itself for a close friend in need(provided it doesn't compromise the mission at large).
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 3, 2017 6:11:08 GMT
Some people think that even with potentially up to five choices they can only be pure renegade or pure paragon. I played my Shepard as someone who will kick your ass if you go over the line but will still offer a shoulder to cry on. Maybe having more than two binary choices leads to a more rounded character? Yep, I like rolling with a character that has no qualms feeding an enemy feet first into a wood chipper but would traverse hell itself for a close friend in need(provided it doesn't compromise the mission at large). I had hoped to play out a desperate man who knew the stakes. We need 23,000 humans to ensure genetic diversity and theres barely that much. A character caught between himself his father and what he needs to be prepared to do to ensure not only our survival but the rule of law and governance. A Wyatt Earp type character on the frontier.
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Post by General Mahad on Apr 3, 2017 6:14:03 GMT
Meeting the pirate boss in Liam's loyalty mission, autodialogue: "it doesn't have to be this way!". Makes me miss how shepard dealt with pirate scum Now that's a good scene. Pity we won't see more of such exchanges in the future.
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Post by Lavochkin on Apr 3, 2017 6:16:00 GMT
Yep, I like rolling with a character that has no qualms feeding an enemy feet first into a wood chipper but would traverse hell itself for a close friend in need(provided it doesn't compromise the mission at large). I had hoped to play out a desperate man who knew the stakes. We need 23,000 humans to ensure genetic diversity and theres barely that much. A character caught between himself his father and what he needs to be prepared to do to ensure not only our survival but the rule of law and governance. A Wyatt Earp type character on the frontier. I was hoping to play a Space Cortes that would've turned the Angara into a client race against Kett in the name of human expansionism and dominance(or at least milky way expansionism and dominance) in Andromeda, like Cortes did with his amerindian allies when he conquered the Aztecs. Alas....
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Post by solaxe on Apr 3, 2017 6:36:15 GMT
Renegade didn't make any sense anyway so I'm glad it's gone
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