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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 1, 2017 2:45:38 GMT
"What a little bitch."
"I told you to Fuck off"
"If you start a colony I'll consider it an act of war."
"I'm not scared of you."
"I don't bow to initiative dogs."
The douchebag pirate on a stolen ship yelling about how awesome and powerful he is and how he deserves more.
Tann.
Morda.
The Moshae acting like you insulted her
Arguing crew.
Asari ark decision.
Peebee occasionally needs to shut up.
All these things were deserving of an interrupt.
But you don't get one, Ryder gets called a bitch and told to "fuck off" so naturally the little bitch fucks off and doesn't say a damn thing about it.
Shepard would have shot them or pushed them out of a window. Or threatened to cut their balls off and sell them to a Krogan.
Where I'm from being called a dog is a serious insult.
Dog = Prison snitch/A person who uses people when they need something/An abusive partner or an immoral individual.
The worst you can do is tell a Krogan: "Dont make me headbutt you, because I will do it."
I wanna actually headbutt him though.
You know, like we used to?
These things being left to stand leave me with the impression that Ryder is in fact a doormat.
He gets ripped on by his sister. His dad didnt exactly care a whole lot. The Nexus treats him like an errand boy and Tann is open about the fact Ryder is his trophy buck/new guard dog, all rolled into one. Now that you've actually bothered to show up on the Nexus instead of dying like a bitch that is.
Yet you're the guy everyone listens to on any every other occasion. You have the power to do good. You can change lives for the better by being nice to people and politely accepting their crap while running errands for them.
You're basically a really, really Paragon Ryder by default.
I miss the Renegade interrupt.
Please bring it back so I can headbutt smart arse Krogan again.
Zip, out.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 1, 2017 2:48:42 GMT
Alec gave up on raising his son after realizing he's an unredeemable fruit.
I bet Alec would sometimes take a long good look at Scott and break down in tears as he repeatedly punched him in the face.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 1, 2017 3:24:44 GMT
Alec gave up on raising his son after realizing he's an unredeemable fruit. I bet Alec would sometimes take a long good look at Scott and break down in tears as he repeatedly punched him in the face. Headbutted. Alec would have repeatedly headbutted him in the face. |
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Post by warlorejohn on Apr 1, 2017 3:29:27 GMT
Actually dig in prison is like a friend at least for the 9 years I spent in Ohio prisons
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Apr 1, 2017 3:42:18 GMT
Shepard died, though. He's a noob.
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Post by Lavochkin on Apr 1, 2017 3:48:50 GMT
Ryder is indeed not as ruthless as I would've liked. Come to think of it, i can't recall any decision where Ryder outright kills somebody in cold blood him/herself, and the only times you can do it(which are very rare) someone else does it(Drack to that fellow at the end of his LM and this one NPC on the Nexus that you can order a sniper to kill).
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Apr 1, 2017 3:49:20 GMT
No Ryncol = No Zipzap?
Where's the real one? are you a clone? are you trying to steal the Normandy?
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 1, 2017 3:59:35 GMT
He's actually not as kind or hesitant towards violence as a Paragon Shepard.
He won't kill in cold blood most of the time, sure, but he also doesn't exactly bless everywhere he touches (no really - he 'opens the path' to others doing so).
Pure Paragons have something to be annoyed with too, seeing Ryder mock others and be more blase about saving others than they were used to. People don't look up to 'Ryder', only the 'Pathfinder', and don't get scared of 'Ryder', only the 'Pathfinder'.
Where we have more choice isn't in extremes, but our tone. To be 'Paragon lite' in 4 ways but 'Renegade lite' also in 4 ways, our bigger decisions less about which of two (or even four) sides we've decided to be. We still have choices in the extremes but they're more rare and less badass/benevolent.
My point is, I don't consider Ryder to be actually as kind as a full Paragon Shepard, even a ME1 one. He'll help you out but its more for his cause, and he'll blow the enemy away but its because he thinks he really has to. Renegade fans may consider him weak but Paragon fans may consider him dangerous. But maybe its hard to see the other perspective.
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 1, 2017 4:06:54 GMT
Ryder is indeed not as ruthless as I would've liked. Come to think of it, i can't recall any decision where Ryder outright kills somebody in cold blood him/herself, and the only times you can do it(which are very rare) someone else does it(Drack to that fellow at the end of his LM and this one NPC on the Nexus that you can order a sniper to kill). Ryder either has others or lets others do it (like a non-interrupt Shepard would), or its to kill an unrepentant badguy who Ryder has to really override the urge to kill for whatever reason. Like the Cardinal(?) on the Kett base when saving the Moshae. I actually didn't action kill her because I want to be as close as possible to someone who keeps their word to others, and I still wanted Ryder to hope that there's some individuality left in Kett to try to repent at some point - seeing Jaal so outraged was an appropriate thing, but made me wonder if his perception may be set up to be clouded for the future regarding Kett. |
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Post by colfoley on Apr 1, 2017 4:07:12 GMT
Ask the Cardinal what he thinks about Ryder inability to be a renegade.
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Post by timebean on Apr 1, 2017 4:11:35 GMT
How the hell can poor S. Ryder let his badassery loose when SAM is constantly whispering problem solving advice? Mine here, pathhfinder. Scan that, pathfinder. You shouldn't talk to this dangerous person, pathfinder.
Ryder is not a noob...he is a puppet, and is likely screaming on the inside. Sometimes, I think I hear it...or maybe that is me just trying to load yet another corrupted fracking save...
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Post by Lavochkin on Apr 1, 2017 4:16:11 GMT
Ryder is indeed not as ruthless as I would've liked. Come to think of it, i can't recall any decision where Ryder outright kills somebody in cold blood him/herself, and the only times you can do it(which are very rare) someone else does it(Drack to that fellow at the end of his LM and this one NPC on the Nexus that you can order a sniper to kill). Ryder either has others or lets others do it (like a non-interrupt Shepard would), or its to kill an unrepentant badguy who Ryder has to really override the urge to kill for whatever reason. Like the Cardinal(?) on the Kett base when saving the Moshae. I actually didn't action kill her because I want to be as close as possible to someone who keeps their word to others, and I still wanted Ryder to hope that there's some individuality left in Kett to try to repent at some point - seeing Jaal so outraged was an appropriate thing, but made me wonder if his perception may be set up to be clouded for the future regarding Kett. I choose to blow the place up, which had Jaal automatically kill the cardinal. I wish Ryder did that instead.  |
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 1, 2017 4:21:31 GMT
No Ryncol = No Zipzap? Where's the real one? are you a clone? are you trying to steal the Normandy?I've already stolen two Normandy's in my lifetime. Given how low security is on the Tempest though it doesn't sound difficult to add to that with a new ship. *Sips Ryncol* |
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 1, 2017 4:30:34 GMT
Ask the Cardinal what he thinks about Ryder inability to be a renegade. Seeing as 30 hours passes between that and your next "Renegade" interrupt it only proves my point. 50 hours in and I've renegaded two people in total and hugged two people and kissed someone else all using the same button. Its a kids version of the old mechanic. No option to threaten or be confrontational. No option to tell someone to get stuffed. No renegade on an NPC moment. No option to tell someone that if they try to be a murderous dick they'll die for it next time. You cannot stick a gun in someones face and play it out as a ruthless colonial who'll stomp Angara/Exiles/Sacrifice Initiatives to get the job done. You cannot play this out as a ruthless character. |
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Post by zaeedisking on Apr 1, 2017 4:34:25 GMT
Ask the Cardinal what he thinks about Ryder inability to be a renegade. Seeing as 30 hours passes between that and your next "Renegade" interrupt it only proves my point. 50 hours in and I've renegaded two people in total and hugged two people and kissed someone else all using the same button. Its a kids version of the old mechanic. No option to threaten or be confrontational. No option to tell someone to get stuffed. No renegade on an NPC moment. No option to tell someone that if they try to be a murderoys dick they'll die for it next time. You cannot stick a gun in someones face and play it out as a ruthless colonial who'll stomp Angara/Exiles/Sacrifice Initiatives to get the job done. You cannot play this out as a ruthless character.  |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on Apr 1, 2017 4:38:58 GMT
He's actually not as kind or hesitant towards violence as a Paragon Shepard. He won't kill in cold blood most of the time, sure, but he also doesn't exactly bless everywhere he touches (no really - he 'opens the path' to others doing so). Pure Paragons have something to be annoyed with too, seeing Ryder mock others and be more blase about saving others than they were used to. People don't look up to 'Ryder', only the 'Pathfinder', and don't get scared of 'Ryder', only the 'Pathfinder'. Where we have more choice isn't in extremes, but our tone. To be 'Paragon lite' in 4 ways but 'Renegade lite' also in 4 ways, our bigger decisions less about which of two (or even four) sides we've decided to be. We still have choices in the extremes but they're more rare and less badass/benevolent. My point is, I don't consider Ryder to be actually as kind as a full Paragon Shepard, even a ME1 one. He'll help you out but its more for his cause, and he'll blow the enemy away but its because he thinks he really has to. Renegade fans may consider him weak but Paragon fans may consider him dangerous. But maybe its hard to see the other perspective. You make a great point, but for me it reinforces the need for a paragon/renegade system. I want to control that aspect. The limited choices that I get to have didn't feel like that at all. It felt like it was going to be this one way regardless of what you said. |
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Post by Trynstark on Apr 1, 2017 4:43:03 GMT
Ryder is indeed not as ruthless as I would've liked. Come to think of it, i can't recall any decision where Ryder outright kills somebody in cold blood him/herself, and the only times you can do it(which are very rare) someone else does it(Drack to that fellow at the end of his LM and this one NPC on the Nexus that you can order a sniper to kill). Or Reyes Killing Sloan in a dirty dirty way. |
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 1, 2017 4:44:20 GMT
He's actually not as kind or hesitant towards violence as a Paragon Shepard. He won't kill in cold blood most of the time, sure, but he also doesn't exactly bless everywhere he touches (no really - he 'opens the path' to others doing so). Pure Paragons have something to be annoyed with too, seeing Ryder mock others and be more blase about saving others than they were used to. People don't look up to 'Ryder', only the 'Pathfinder', and don't get scared of 'Ryder', only the 'Pathfinder'. Where we have more choice isn't in extremes, but our tone. To be 'Paragon lite' in 4 ways but 'Renegade lite' also in 4 ways, our bigger decisions less about which of two (or even four) sides we've decided to be. We still have choices in the extremes but they're more rare and less badass/benevolent. My point is, I don't consider Ryder to be actually as kind as a full Paragon Shepard, even a ME1 one. He'll help you out but its more for his cause, and he'll blow the enemy away but its because he thinks he really has to. Renegade fans may consider him weak but Paragon fans may consider him dangerous. But maybe its hard to see the other perspective. But thats exactly it. Its not you deciding. Its Ryder deciding and that isn't how Mass Effect works. |
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Post by Lavochkin on Apr 1, 2017 4:58:38 GMT
I wish there was a third option of giving someone the noose in certain quests too, like in the "first murderer" quest.
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Post by Rochrok on Apr 1, 2017 5:10:31 GMT
*delurk*
I agree OP.I wanted to be more ruthless. Ryder has his moments of renegade like behavior but overall he's just varying levels of Paragon.
Hopefully we get more renegade like options in the future.
*Lurk*
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Post by RageUnderFire on Apr 1, 2017 5:10:37 GMT
Avitus for renegade gangster of the game.
When you first meet him his kill of a combatant was an execution not combat.
I was like DAMN this Turian Ruthless Shepard is who I want to play as not this boy band looking fruitcake.
Ryder backshoots the cardinal to express hostility. Really. lulz
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Post by The Twilight God on Apr 1, 2017 5:20:22 GMT
Scott Ryder is a JC Penny fall catalog sweater model. What did you expect?
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Post by canuckgamer on Apr 1, 2017 5:21:54 GMT
Ok so here is the thing, Shepard's renegade options were so over the top sociopath it really made it impossible to understand how people followed him. Hey I can randomly shoot my companions and the rest will be angry and then completely ok with it 5 minutes later. Sure I'll let the entire Council die and only one or two words are said about it but the entire galaxy trusts me to save them from the reapers....
Ryder is exactly what his character should be. Pragmatic people don't agree to be frozen for 600 years fly to another galaxy for the slight hope of a new beginning. Optimistic, slightly naive and hopeful people tend to do that. Ryder is a 22 year old who gets to explore a new galaxy and is completely over his head. I am not surprised he isn't shooting his companions or head butting Krogan.
BUT....he does have his moments. Without spoiling anything their is the Cardinal, Peebee's loyalty mission, and a bar fight that jump to mind immediately.
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Post by NUM13ER on Apr 1, 2017 5:22:17 GMT
What like letting a leader die when you could save them? Shooting someone in the hand so they fall to their death whilst someones trying to save them? Putting a bullet in a kett's face mid sentence? Letting a woman with an infectious disease die because some idiot thought she was good leverage as a hostage? Granting an enemies request for martyrdom? Murdering the shit out of a hacker group and executing their leader in full view of everyone? Letting an AI kill some worthless Angara because it's worth more to you in one piece? Starting a bar fight? Burning bridges with the krogan?
Decisions like that you mean?
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Post by rolenka on Apr 1, 2017 5:58:46 GMT
Sometimes I want to tell my crew to fall in line and show the proper respect. It isn't a military mission, though, and sisRyder is more scientist than soldier. Her time in the Alliance was spent assisting researchers with Prothean artifacts.
But yeah. It can be annoying. Shepard was the baddest baddass human in the galaxy, with a galactic license to kill. Maybe we were a bit spoiled.
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