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Post by Ianamus on Jan 11, 2017 19:12:49 GMT
I agree about Solas: many hate him because he "dare" to have his own opinion. But basically I've seen it for every character around. Is something I don't really get. Sera is just as opinionated, if not worst (she even dump down a elf lover who want to keep her Dalish beliefs) but I respect her character all the same (my not liking her aren't about her character, but she push some painful buttons with me. From the "leave your religion, or else get out!" to her truly infantile ways.) still, she seem quite loved from one half of the people, hated by the other. I have seen a lot of hate towards strong female characters too, but I've noticed that is all towards non-romancable ones: like with Velanna and Vivienne: both are quite hated, even if actually aren't worse than Morrigan. Huh. Good point on Viv and Velanna. And Sera is a lesbian, so that pattern holds. I wonder then, is it that these are strong, opinionated women with goals, or is it that they are strong, opinionated women with goals that are not romanceable by men...? Would male players be as forgiving of Morrigan's ritual, Isabela's betrayal, Merrill's life choices, Miranda's control chip, Jack's attitude problems, were they not romances? It's difficult because there aren't a lot of male parallels to this. Would we be less forgiving of Anders or Solas if they weren't a romance? I don't think my opinion of either of them would change, had they not been - I dislike what they did, but understood why and could sympathize. My friendships with them both was enough for me to feel that way. And I feel like that about all those female characters too. I thought Sera was annoying and frustrating at times (okay most of the time!) but found myself liking her anyway. Even Vivienne - I understood where she was coming from and respected her opinions, even if I totally disagreed and thought she was a bitch. I liked Morrigan's friendship arc better than Leliana's, and got more satisfaction out of my friendship with Miranda than I did with Liara. I really don't think being romanceable by male players has anything to do with it. It has everything to do with holding strong opinions that go against the morals of most players. Velanna and Sera are racist (and Sera is disliked by both male and female players alike) while Vivienne is pro the current mage system and actively fights to preserve it. All of them also show very little empathy for others, which is potentially the biggest factor in why they are not popular. Aveline is a storng, opinionated woman with goals who is well-liked by the fanbase. Kasumi and Sigrun, while not particularly opinionated, are fan favorites despite being strong female characters who are not romanceable. Anders is another good example of a character who is controversial at best because of his opinions and actions. Personally I hate him, despite him being a romance option for me, and give him no more of a pass because of his romanceable status.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 11, 2017 17:34:46 GMT
It's nice to know we'll be getting something this week, but honestly the briefings haven't provided much interesting information so far.
With any luck we'll get some images of the Tempest crew to analyse, if nothing else.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 11, 2017 13:12:29 GMT
Well, they say this game will have more romances than any previous Bioware game so it could certainly be possible. I'm still sure they're counting flings in that number and that's the only reason we'll have more "romances" than ever before. I bet we'll get the standard 2/2/2 for "full" romances. But with flings in mind, yeah, I bet there will be more than 2 male options for Scott. I'm expecting to have the same number as Inquisition, what with the similar scope and development time, and inquisition had 4/2/2 if I remember correctly. I'd expect it to be distributed a bit more evenly this time, though. I'm not sure if they include 'fling' type options in that statistic. When I read "light romances" I read it as more Scout Harding style. Where you can get a proper relationship but there isn't as much content or scenes as the others. There's a lot of middle ground that could be explored as well.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 10, 2017 10:12:41 GMT
...What do you think journalism even is if not precisely that? Do you really think this is journalism? Fact checking who is banging who in a video game? Applying that logic puts everyone in Hollywood with a camera a journalist. Again, probably not the right forum to argue about, don't want to derail the Twitter thread. If you're writing an article specifically about Mass Effect Andromeda's relationship system, after having had an exclusive interview with the developers, then yes, you are expected to have some idea of how Mass Effect Andromeda's relationship system works. Just because they aren't reporting on major global events doesn't mean they can publish whatever they want without criticism.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 10, 2017 4:02:38 GMT
I usually purchase digitally released games that I plan on playing the day before release, but this discount was simply too big not to order in advance.
I'm 99% sure I'd purchase it in the end so it would be silly not to. While I understand peoples issues with preorders I just don't buy enough games nowadays to worry over when/how I purchase them.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 10, 2017 1:13:34 GMT
In past games I wouldn't really even think twice about starting a non-human romance. This time... I can't really see myself going that route. Only way it could work with Drak or Vetra (or any Salarian) would be it was an asexual romance. Since I'm not asexual that's not really going to work. Peebee is attractive, but seems too Sera-like for my interest. Lexi would probably be the only possibility, if she even is even available. Unfortunately we know even less about the two human squaddies, Cora and Liam. I hope they're both appealing. Who knows, maybe they'll "wow" me with some of these minor romances, or one of the new aliens. Why would Vetra have to be asexual? Garrus certainly wasn't. Or Drak, for that matter.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 9, 2017 22:32:29 GMT
I wonder when IGN is going to start putting out this "month of Mass Effect: Andromeda" stuff. Pretty much a third of the month is gone with them not revealing a single thing. I've been wondering this as well. Wasn't there supposed to be some big deal about them having exclusive access to this months news? But the five minute gameplay trailer and release date announcements had nothing to do with them, and we've heard nothing
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 9, 2017 19:14:48 GMT
Hmm, well, yes I believe the devs are dedicated and passionate about their work. I don't see how you could deal with this industry otherwise. But I also don't see where they have much choice. Are they gonna say, "No, I'm not pulling this 60-80 hour week. I'm going home to my family. Eat a decent meal. Get a good night's sleep, and come back a better dev in the morning because of it." They could, but they'd be fired. Personally, I think the whole "Crunch" practice should be done away with; it reeks of Sweatshop to me. I'm not quite familiar with employment laws in the US/Canada, but I don't think you can just fire someone on a permanent contract off the bat without gross misconduct. Firing somebody is actually a complicated and heavily regulated process, which is why redundancy exists. Employers need justified reason to fire somebody, and refusing to work 70 hour weeks is hardly a justifiable reason to fire somebody.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 9, 2017 1:57:31 GMT
I feel like they'll be more than two male romances for Scott. Don't know why, since it hasn't happened before, it's just a feeling I have. And that's not including the "light" romances.
I'm betting on one squad mate (most likely Liam) and two crew members. Maybe Liam, the Amdromedan alien and one crew member, if the amdromedan isn't female exclusive.
And that's assuming the andromedan is male. I could see them being female or genderless, if the cut squadmate was male or a male looking synthetic.
I also have a feeling Reyes will be a crew LI for Sara only. Just a hunch.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 8, 2017 3:46:07 GMT
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 8, 2017 3:34:38 GMT
Does anybody else find it strange that Reyes is being voiced by a non-Spanish VA putting on a Spanish accent? Previous Spanish-speaking characters like James Vega had VA's who spoke Spanish fluently.
Edit: Oh, as someone above mentioned, Nicholas Boulton was born in Gibraltar. I suppose it's possible he does speak Spanish then, though it's clear he's putting on the accent.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 7, 2017 21:23:03 GMT
Trunkless elephants. At least they seem that way to me. But, when I saw one walking through the Citadel, it looked like his front feet were curled a bit and he was walking on his knuckles like a sloth. So maybe a Slothephant? Slothephant. I like it. I was talking to my husband about this thread, and he pointed out that scientists have determined that only mammalian creatures can grow hair. Humanoid and mammalian aren't the same thing. For example, the Asari are humanoid, but have faint scales on their skin. So unless we run into another mammalian race, we probably won't see any ailens with facial hair. It's been a while since I did biology in school, but I'm pretty sure mammal refers to any animal that gives live birth. Whales and Dolphins are classified as mammals, so I'd imagine Asari, Krogan, Turians and Quarians would be as well. I'd rather not see beards on any male LI's. I just don't like them. Stubble and short facial hair can look really good, but I don't think I've ever seen any sort of facial hair look good in a Bioware game.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 7, 2017 3:07:59 GMT
I keep getting the feeling that this game has been through a tremendously troubled development cycle since it has taken so long and they're rushing to get it done right now. Every now and again you get a tweet from Mike or a from Flynn when he lauds you for your lack of patience. Game development always gets rushed and stressful towards the end, regardless of how smoothe the full development cycle has been. My company are releasing a game at the end of January and new bugs are still coming in as fast as they're being fixed. We're a small and relatively relaxed studio but it's still stressful, so I feel the Bioware devs pain.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 6, 2017 19:53:59 GMT
Maybe I should create that potato thread SofaJockey recommended after all! In all seriousness, I was talking about her icon looking like a potato. Obviously we don't know what she looks like in-game, and I honestly don't care that much. Well, we have just had the reveal of Cora's face model, even if we haven't actually seen her face in-game. Oh, and... Some days on BSN are just far too entertaining to behave... I've already made a new avatar for the angry thread I'm going to make about this: I'm sorry
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 6, 2017 19:03:28 GMT
I'm hoping for a male Turian or Quarian. The former looks more likely at the moment, but I'm staying optimistic about the latter. Either one would be great.
So far the only Bioware game to give me a male LI I preferred to the female ones (and could actually romance on my male protagonist) was DA2 with Fenris, and that was the best of a 'meh' bunch imo. Hoping Andromeda will surprise me.
What I don't expect is for any of the male human LI's to interest me. I don't know what it is about the Mass Effect games, but all of the male human LI's bore me to tears.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 6, 2017 18:08:02 GMT
ugh only on the bsn would I be writing sentences analyzing a woman's appearance/nose in this way. gg This is the second time in a couple of days someone's brought up potatoes (the other about Cora, based on an icon). Obviously Bioware took all those "SHE LOOKS LIKE A MAN!" comments to heart and resolved to model their ladies after tubers instead. #DontHateJustPotate Maybe I should create that potato thread SofaJockey recommended after all! In all seriousness, I was talking about her icon looking like a potato. Obviously we don't know what she looks like in-game, and I honestly don't care that much.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 6, 2017 14:25:47 GMT
If anything I get the impression the devs are itching to talk about their game. I'm sure we'll get more details about (combat/profiles/sciencey lore stuff/the nomad/dialogue/are there Quarians!?/where is my Liam BIOWARE COME ON) once those longer gameplay demos come out and marketing gives them the go ahead. I think the issue is that they sort of wanted to go the FO4 route where they sit on everything until a month or two before launch, but also already revealed stuff and that's how they've always done it... But it's an either/or thing and they tried to do both... And that doesn't work. Especially when Bioware fans are notorious for reading way too much into everything because we're obsessed very passionate. This whole marketing strategy feels like a direct response to how poorly fan took them showing DA:I way, way too soon. Fans were pissed when many of the coolest features from the PAX demo were cut from the game. Yeah, game development is a process and things get cut all the time, but Bioware should have known fans would get up in arms if features from the demo were cut (despite the entire demo having the "Pre-Alpha" stamp on it). The issue that I think a lot of people have is that they swung too far in the other direction. The game comes out on March 21st, so it should have been feature locked a while ago. I get not wanting to show too much when you're still polishing, but they could have at least given us screenshot and short clips of environments to keep people somewhat informed. Hell, I think even a short codex entry every few weeks would have been enough to keep the wolves at bay. But, from what we're hearing from Shinobi on NeoGAF (he's a well-known Bioware insider who has leaked many, many things), we won't have to wait long for the marketing blitz. I prefer the Andromeda approach overall. I didn't like how the DAI marketing material was so different to the final game, plus one minute we were told that you could only play a human and the next we could be different races. That constant backtracking and changing plans was frustrating. At least with Andromeda they waited until they got their stuff together and everything we know is final. I didn't have the energy for another three year release hype/speculation period either. I was able to forget about the Mass Effect series completely until now, when release is right around the corner. That's the way I like it. That said, we are in the final few months now. They need to stop teasing and start wrapping things up!
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 6, 2017 12:14:19 GMT
Yeah, I don't recall if it was in texts or in the videos, but it was mentioned. Propaganda seems to be a good reason why people are pissed and breaking out the Initiative. We don't know if the problems in Andromeda were something unexpected or the higher ups knew about them and lied. That works well if the hidden reason behind the project is truly escaping the Reapers...which will obviously make the connection plan a lie. Briefings manage to contradict text descriptions on site. "Make no mistake, this is a one way trip" vs "establish permanent trade route". Not necessarily. Establishing a connection between the galaxies could be a long term goal that they are well aware will take hundreds of years. It's still a one way trip for the humans going now.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 5, 2017 20:42:10 GMT
Hey everyone. I've been posting here for a week or two, but should probably introduce myself properly. Especially since I'm using a different username here from on the old boards! I spent a lot of time on the old forums in the lead-up to Mass Effect 3 and Inquisition, username EJ107. Don't expect any of you to remember me, but I remember a lot of you. I stopped using the forums after I finished Inquisition and the next thing I knew they were gone! But it's nice to see that it's still alive and well here, for better or worse. The Andromeda hype finally caught up to me and has brought me crawling back. I've officially become a video game developer myself since graduating last year. I work for a small indie studio in Birmingham
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 5, 2017 19:47:19 GMT
Does the jetpack take up one of those slots, or are the controls for the new movement abilities separate? If they don't then I'm more than fine with it. Doesn't look it does, in the last trailer they've been jumping around and had Overload, Flak and Flamethrower slotted. In that case I don't see the issue. The new movement abilities add an entirely new dimension, both literally and metaphorically, to combat. Giving us one less ability as an expense seems fair enough to keep the controls and micromanagement reasonable.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 5, 2017 19:22:25 GMT
Does the jetpack take up one of those slots, or are the controls for the new movement abilities separate?
If they don't then I'm more than fine with it.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 5, 2017 16:11:33 GMT
It's always possible for a game to bomb, but I doubt it. I've never played a Bioware game where my dissatisfaction with some elements outweighed my happiness over others. Same here I wish I could say the same. My hatred of ME3's ending outweighed my love of the entire franchise. Even the citadel DLC, which is definitely the best thing Bioware has ever produced in my eyes, was not enough to get me to actually reinstall that game.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 5, 2017 15:14:58 GMT
It's impossible to tell based on what we have seen so far.
I've seen nothing to indicate it will fail and the short clips we've seen are promising. But Bioware Games live or die by their story and characters, the strength of which can't be judged without investing hours into the game.
Honestly I don't need to see any more to convince me to buy it, I have already decided that I will. All I want from Bioware now is direct confirmation on which major species will or won't be returning and a basic idea of the cast so I can go with with appropriate expectations.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 5, 2017 3:06:17 GMT
That was... odd. I wasn't expecting much, but I was expecting a clipshow of pretty planet visuals to showcase the graphics. That was mostly just UI with a tiny clip of combat thrown in. Not awful, but not worth the marketing hype. I expect people to find some interesting tidbits in the UI shots, though.
At least we have a confirmed release date from earlier, so today wasn't a complete bust.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 4, 2017 23:27:32 GMT
Cora looks like a potato. The rest are pretty good, though. yep, oh dear, anticipates: 'BioWare female character looks like a potato!' thread Don't tempt me!
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