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Post by zeowik on Mar 13, 2017 23:10:09 GMT
1000 PAGE CELEBRATION! Jaal's Ankles , you feeling that bass at work!? Thank you for tagging me! Much, much love! I feel only Jaal today... I love Zootopia btw! Happy 1000 pages!! Yes! I try to avoid referencing the movie too much but it just does so much right. It amuses me a little too much how those tigers have a way of making some people a little uncomfortable. I heard someone mutter "...they're (like) strippers!" in the movie theater. Contrary to what it may seem they are not identical nor are their animations mirrored. This one in particular reflects the glee tonight: I can't believe the game is out so very soon. Also that Soony nickname is great.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 13, 2017 22:56:10 GMT
I just got home from work a while ago, finished shoveling, and now I'm wondering if I should skip the video and wait to meet the characters in game... Those were some pretty strong positive reactions though.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 13, 2017 16:23:59 GMT
I wonder how much I need to spoiler tag hmm.. I guess voice is safe. It was bit different I expected. I like alien "distortion" cause it makes aliens bit more unique, but Jaal's voice was deeper and also.. bit choppy and I wasn't expecting that. More about Angara on spoilers
I was sure that they were resistance fighters against Kett, it's nice to be right XD I quite like that they are very emotional people Jaal included. That and him maybe not understanding idioms and taking things too literally- it can be quite wild ride.
Devs said on some Q&A I think that Angaras are bit less advanced as Milky Wayan races. This is bit bummer to me, since I don't want them to appear "lesser" and us just being their saviors etc. I want them to be bold and assertive. But this is just speculation.
For the end: I really like that there is going to be hugging involved!
They said they are a little less advanced not hugely so.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 13, 2017 16:18:28 GMT
I am at break at work and then there is shoveling snow when I get home later but I will be watching this asap when I can. I love the reactions to it.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 13, 2017 1:43:02 GMT
I'd be very careful about spoilers at this point. Some very plausible theories are already out there based on the trailer footage so far. The GTX 1080 and 1080Ti focus cracks me up. The game runs on game consoles with VERY little power in comparison. That does not bother me but I would be shocked if it takes anything close to a 1080, for 1080p at least. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Show me which game article that posted pictures / videos, explicitly mentioned the hardware + resolution + graphics settings that was used. My bet is the PS4 Pro for console hardware. The "old" PS4 will have Ken/barbie hair and both consoles are set for 30fps.
The good news is the the early birds can tell us the REAL game world graphics looks.
I think my post may have came off as more serious. They differentiated between the GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti with 1080p and 4k. I would be shocked if the GTX 1080 can't do 4k with the game. I wasn't like irritated or laughing with malice. It's just the distinction I found to be a little funny. It's the game that matters of course. I'm sure the console versions are great. It's just night and day is all. The streams they have already done can show us what the game really looks like actually. I doubt they can doctor that up any. Personally most modern graphics are amazing to me, so I was floored by the footage thus far.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 21:02:23 GMT
When it's female and male devs doing it? No. Edit: Also I didn't think that means he's bi. I just think it's not very nice to tease like that while playing the "we aren't talking about romance" card, which is just plain untrue because they have teased romance quite a bit. Whats does the fact that the Male devs like his romance have to do with orientation at all ? Those two don't really connect unless you're just desperately reaching for evidence. Your entire argument seems to boil down to it somehow being obvious to assume he's straight. My only point is that they are teasing while at the same time claiming they aren't talking about romance. That's not very nice. Which way he swings, frankly, is irrelevant to that point. Keep in mind I stressed I'd try to just be calm about it. That doesn't mean I think it's been handled well at all, if that is how it pans out. Edit: I think it was crappy for them to hold back the confirmations like this. It wasn't crappy marketing, but it was ethically crappy. I don't expect it to change, but they know going in that it's the gay and lesbian players that are ALWAYS going to suffer the most from that kind of marketing. They probably also know we're the ones that are going to be let down when the facts finally come out. Of course I don't think anyone should be sending out death threats or whatever, but I think they're stringing us along just to keep as many pre-orders as possible, which is a shitty thing to do. Realistic to expect, but still shitty. I don't think there would be anything wrong about saying nothing about which way each character may swing or if they can be romanced. The problem I have is the teasing combined with that claim.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 20:53:54 GMT
No the devs wouldn't deserve it but I'd have to question the constant (not much of an exaggeration) teasing about Jaal while at the same time hammering home they want to keep most romance questions a mystery. It just plain isn't right to tease like that if in the end part of the people you are teasing are already known to be shut out. I really hope that's not how things pan out. I'll try to keep calm if that happens, but I would cry foul to a point. The teasing is incessant. Am I exaggerating? They teased about Jaal, but they never talked about orientation. So if you took all of that as 'he's available to everyone' don't you think that's kinda on you ? When it's female and male devs doing it? No. Edit: Also I didn't think that means he's bi. I just think it's not very nice to tease like that while playing the "we aren't talking about romance" card, which is just plain untrue because they have teased romance quite a bit.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 20:41:06 GMT
I understand that. But I'm also concerned about the state this thread and forum will find itself in after the game is released. If the information is accurate then this place will explode when it becomes official knowledge, and the attacks towards devs and other members of the forums will be much worse than the scenario you described. I certainly don't envy the position you and the other mods will be in should that come to pass. Until then I'd simply urge everyone to keep their expectations very low. I mentioned in the Jaal thread that I feel bad for the devs. Regardless of the fact that they may have screwed gay players. They don't deserve the bashing they're gonna get if the leaks are true. No one deserves to be treated like that. No the devs wouldn't deserve it but I'd have to question the constant (not much of an exaggeration) teasing about Jaal while at the same time hammering home they want to keep most romance questions a mystery. It just plain isn't right to tease like that if in the end part of the people you are teasing are already known to be shut out. I really hope that's not how things pan out. I'll try to keep calm if that happens, but I would cry foul to a point. The teasing is incessant. Am I exaggerating?
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 18:30:46 GMT
The GTX 1080 and 1080Ti focus cracks me up. The game runs on game consoles with VERY little power in comparison. That does not bother me but I would be shocked if it takes anything close to a 1080, for 1080p at least.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 15:11:08 GMT
Wow. I did not need to know that. Geez, blech! ...ugh. one reason i'm always reluctant to play as a guy romancing a girl in these games is because the writing squicks me out so hard. did they have to infantilise her... I have not seen the scene but how is a character having weakness or emotion "infantilizing" her? The character is quite capable. Contrast a nutty guy making people laugh in his own hyper-indoctrinated country by suggesting driving can damage ovaries. I think it is okay for characters to not be rock solid. It reminds me of Samus in Metroid: Other M being bashed for daring to show emotion in a couple scenes when in 90% of the game she is cool-headed and professional and most of her dialog is inner monolog/narration and people interviewed that are experts on the subject said her single moment of a couple seconds of crippling dread was a fairly accurate depiction of PTSD and contrary to the core of most criticism people do not 'get over' it or have consistent episodes every time a potential trigger happens. The Guardians of the Galaxy movie is a good example too. Rocket is a very strong character but his near breakdown mid movie and his full on breakdown near the end make his character more real and do not infantilize him. To think they almost cut him from the movie but the director insisted to keep him and treat him as any human character. KISA to me means they're idealistic, not necessarily tied to a moral majority view. I actually prefer a knight in sour armor, which is someone whose cynical and had their ideals tarnished, yet still can't help but live by their ideals anyway. Geralt from the witcher series and Harry Dresden from the Dresden series, fit this I think. While I am no expert on the trope it doesn't mean they have to rescue my character either; it just means they are the type that would rescue people due to that idealism.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 4:26:04 GMT
What is wrong with that though? Nothing, it's just that it's starting to become a pattern, and if it continues, it might say something negative about how Bioware treats gay male characters. Yeah I admit that, because of the constant teasing, if Jaal turns out straight I will try not to be upset but will question why they thought hyping him so much leading people on was a good idea. Patterns don't mean anything but sure look bad.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 4:18:24 GMT
I will say the notion that you can't find room to wake them all is ridiculous. Planets are big.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 4:03:53 GMT
This encapsulates my worry about the "it has to make sense" statement and rumors. I really hope it isn't true for ME: Andromeda too.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 3:52:20 GMT
By that logic, maybe the next elfie dude will be a gay man. Which probably means I'll end up with a bisexual man. Again. It probably says something that in the two, and likely the three, games so far that have offered male love interests that were m/m only, I ended up finding a bisexual man more appealing. What is wrong with that though?
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 2:59:41 GMT
I mean, you can marry a lady werewolf without curing her werewolf-ness, but granted that doesn't help gay men much. You can also marry lizard people of both genders. But you couldn't marry any of the cat people for some reason. I never understood that. The Khajit were definitely more appealing marriage options than the Argonians. And there were no Bosmer marriage options despite them being objectively the best elven race. They were very limited by the Xbox 360 disc size and part of that was reserved for Microsoft. The 360 did not come with a HDD at the time. Anyway back to monocle rat lobsters and co. Edit: Also I assumed KISA was a character name, much like the Logitech lady and TIM.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 0:19:59 GMT
Yeah drama makes things more interesting in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with a romance with mild drama but it risks being labeled boring. Not that it always works well. The most cringworthy moment of ME1 for me was: Ashley being obsessed all because my Shepard was nice to her followed by a totally unprofessional confrontation between her and Liara.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 12, 2017 0:10:28 GMT
You know, this whole chat about SAM is keeping me hopeful, I don't want that because I know Bioware. What's next, furry talk? ... he-he-he Furry #ReleaseSAMsexbot #WerewolfLIforDA4 There is significant overlap between furry fans and alien fans considering anthropomorphic animals essentially are aliens. Disney's design of Zootopia is essentially science fiction for example, including considering the alternate products such people may use (actual concept art). The drama both positive and negative over a furry alien species in Mass Effect would be amusing.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 11, 2017 23:26:44 GMT
Whoa I didn't notice who posted that. This is hilarious!
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Post by zeowik on Mar 11, 2017 23:17:18 GMT
Just gotta vent some stuff out. This place is the only place I feel like I can do it without being insulted. I'll spoil it for those who don't want any negativity. I can't believe I am actually feeling down about people talking about this game. In the romance thread people were making assumptions about the people releasing the Sara trailer saying things like: that if there is a f/f scene it's to get the dudebros off and not for actual lesbians or that they'll show her with a dude because no homo I just made responses telling them to not automatically assume the Sara trailer that is coming up will do this. People accused me of inciting heated arguments and spreading hate towards the lgbt community. Not once have I insulted them, calling them "heterophobes" or whatever the heck they think I am. I like a guy's post saying that maybe certain romances shouldn't be in the game because people are complaining even when Bioware gives them what they want and automatically get accused of wanting lgbt people to not get romances. I almost feel like deleting my account. I want to give people the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes people can't civilly debate with each other and have different opinions without being attacked. One week till I can play 10hrs of this likely going to be great game and I am really sad that people aren't happy. I do feel for you guys, and love you all. I think what some people dont want to see is a love interest who weve already seen for scott (me included, i have to admit). But Hey im a streight gal who would totally bang vetra! And im sure lots of people would support that, I'd also love them to show an adorable moment with Jaal. But something in my gut is telling me it will be Liam. However I do feel for the LGBT community (my bi boyfriend included) that they wont give more bi options, BUT if all fails just play as the other gender (or if PC) wait for some mods as someone will make them im sure xx I assure you I am quite happy being male. Playing a female character is not the answer to me. Thanks for the sentiment regardless. 😀 I do not mind playing female characters but as a player avatar I prefer my own gender. Edit: I added a quote to what I responded to. I can't believe I thought it would appear fast enough to not need to.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 11, 2017 23:08:42 GMT
Just gotta vent some stuff out. This place is the only place I feel like I can do it without being insulted. I'll spoil it for those who don't want any negativity. I can't believe I am actually feeling down about people talking about this game. In the romance thread people were making assumptions about the people releasing the Sara trailer saying things like: that if there is a f/f scene it's to get the dudebros off and not for actual lesbians or that they'll show her with a dude because no homo I just made responses telling them to not automatically assume the Sara trailer that is coming up will do this. People accused me of inciting heated arguments and spreading hate towards the lgbt community. Not once have I insulted them, calling them "heterophobes" or whatever the heck they think I am. I like a guy's post saying that maybe certain romances shouldn't be in the game because people are complaining even when Bioware gives them what they want and automatically get accused of wanting lgbt people to not get romances. I almost feel like deleting my account. I want to give people the benefit of the doubt, but sometimes people can't civilly debate with each other and have different opinions without being attacked. One week till I can play 10hrs of this likely going to be great game and I am really sad that people aren't happy. Have a virtual hug This whole pre-release insecurity is certainly putting people on edge. It would likely have been better if certain announcements had been made earlier, but I'm not even so sure about that now. Regardless, there is nothing we can do about how EA handles BioWare's marketing. The only thing we can do is have some faith in the company that has delivered so many awesome games to us. Everything thus far will be like nothing compared to the storm if the trailer showed a f/f romance and Jaal turns out straight. It would be like connect the dots in how to cause the most drama. They are teasing so very much. That said if Jaal turns out bi and the Sara trailer is awesome there will probably be mass glee. If Jaal turns out straight I will try not to be too upset. That teasing though, and nonstop to this day... But yes any personal junk is just words. Don't let a couple people get to you. Edit: I am in no way saying a f/f scene would make the trailer less awesome. I was only bringing up the perfect storm for accusations that or is too work up straight guys if the dominoes feel that way exactly.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 11, 2017 22:50:37 GMT
If you wake everyone up without enough planets to keep them alive they all die. But we earn the points needed to wake them up by doing things that would provide places for them to live and we Don't even have all the arks! And it's not like the Initiate bought an absurd amount of people, 100k can easily fit on the Nexus + a handful of planets, hell, one planet if they really needed to. Yeah it is just bizarre. I hope it is for DLC or something because that makes no sense.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 11, 2017 22:40:30 GMT
About the complaining about the complaining about the complaining subject I do not presume to talk for everyone but instead to emphasize others don't either.
If I see an unreasonable demand or snide comment that would get stereotyped as an unreasonable consensus I absolutely will distance myself from that. Such an impossible to please attitude (such as flipping over the terminology used to announce the new trailer) just distracts from more reasonable requests.
Criticism absolutely is not the same thing as toxicity or hostility. I have heard of this "disagreeing is hostility" accusation before but never saw it so clearly being used until now.
Either way I find the extreme engagement with the fanbase extraordinary.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 11, 2017 22:04:04 GMT
900 PAGE JAAL PORN THREADS I am so glad I am not alone hearing that wrong! Was it just me or did the interviewer mistake Aaryn for a woman? She did and my response was to worry that he is a lady which would make his Jaal teasing not really teasing all genders. Basically I thought I was the one making a mistake. Just watched N7Follower's interview with Courtney Woods and her favorite Andromeda character that she did not write for is *drum roll* JAAL :hearteyes: She also said he's very fascinating, curious and that the Angara in general are very open. I am trying to brace myself for a straight Jaal but instead I am only getting more ansy. If the next trailer has a Sara and Jaal romance scene the suspense will get even worse, though she is due a trailer of course.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 11, 2017 18:13:44 GMT
I really don't expect LGBT focus to be in advertising. I am not straight but the fact is we are rather rare. Inclusiveness is nice but not pandering on that level. I am happy they at least respond sympathetically on Twitter though.
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Post by zeowik on Mar 11, 2017 2:30:28 GMT
I neglected to respond but on the topic of Liam: If Liam said he isn't into guys that would be that. People are what they are and while not everyone is sure on how they swing I really think if someone says something that has to be respected.
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