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Post by aglomeracja on May 9, 2017 17:50:29 GMT
Wow what an in depth review! It's short and to the point. Which at this point is what we need. Jesus... Those articles suikoden is posting often are bad, but the "positive" ones from this thread are fucking atrocious. Is this trolling or is it really that hard to find a positive review written by a professional?
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Post by griffith82 on May 9, 2017 17:53:39 GMT
It's short and to the point. Which at this point is what we need. Jesus... Those articles suikoden is posting often are bad, but the "positive" ones from this thread are fucking atrocious. Is this trolling or is it really that hard to find a positive review written by a professional? Fine here. www.polygon.com/2017/3/20/14886618/mass-effect-andromeda-review-PS4-Xbox-One-PCIt recognizes the bugs but doesn't trash the game.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 9, 2017 18:08:05 GMT
It already was. I guess you missed the "I was making a point" part. And you may find this hard to believe, but it's wearing on people who do like the game to only see those with negative commentary posting thread after thread. I wanted some balance. I still play the game and do not hate it nor hate Bioware. The game is flawed and if people can't express that?! It is a forum after all and it projects all peoples on the forum, not the only same minded ones. When I originally started, I pointed out that people kept posting negative reviews and attaching themselves to them, using them as justification that they're right. These were all done in their own individual threads rather than in one thread. I have also stated that I have no problem with people expressing their own dislike. In fact, I've also mentioned things I don't like. I just don't start a new thread (this was an exception for my point) whenever something pops into my head. We get drowned in threads like that otherwise. If the same person posts a new thread every time he finds a review that supports his viewpoint, all we get are those threads. He could just create a thread and post all of those reviews in it.
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Post by aglomeracja on May 9, 2017 18:24:50 GMT
That certainly is well written Only slightly positive though, I'd argue that 7,5/10 is still rather disappointing and authors summary is rather bittersweet as well.
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Post by suikoden on May 9, 2017 19:14:56 GMT
This is bit childish, new topic for every single review. Should I made new topic for every single thing I don't like in MEA ? Yeah, so, that's exactly what's happened with the negative posts. New thread for every review found that's negative. That was entirely the point about what I did. Yeah that's not what's happened at all. If that was truely the case I would easily drown you in a never ending sea of reviews that shit all over Andromeda. As it is, I'm posting the odd article or review that's added a new perspective, which I preface beforehand for discussion. You post from 'businessinsider' (lol) because for some reason you get easily triggered by the hate directed at Andromeda. And you're posting just to be argumentative and confrontational. It's sad.
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Post by griffith82 on May 9, 2017 20:48:23 GMT
That certainly is well written Only slightly positive though, I'd argue that 7,5/10 is still rather disappointing and authors summary is rather bittersweet as well. Idk about disappointing but definitely not as good as it could have been. At release I likely would have given it the same score pending improvements. Now about 8.5. Edit: also I wouldn't say bittersweet he states that despite the flaws he had fun, invested in the characters and is eager for more. That doesn't come across as bittersweet to me.
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Post by griffith82 on May 9, 2017 20:54:33 GMT
Yeah, so, that's exactly what's happened with the negative posts. New thread for every review found that's negative. That was entirely the point about what I did. Yeah that's not what's happened at all. If that was truely the case I would easily drown you in a never ending sea of reviews that shit all over Andromeda. As it is, I'm posting the odd article or review that's added a new perspective, which I preface beforehand for discussion. You post from 'businessinsider' (lol) because for some reason you get easily triggered by the hate directed at Andromeda. And you're posting just to be argumentative and confrontational. It's sad. I'm jumping in here. You say your not trolling yet you insult him. That is childish and unnecessary. Also there are more positive reviews than negative so good luck with that.
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 9, 2017 21:09:56 GMT
Negative voices will be louder than positive ones because they have the ax to grind. In other news, water is wet. Still, as long as no one's getting personal...
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Post by suikoden on May 9, 2017 21:19:43 GMT
Yeah that's not what's happened at all. If that was truely the case I would easily drown you in a never ending sea of reviews that shit all over Andromeda. As it is, I'm posting the odd article or review that's added a new perspective, which I preface beforehand for discussion. You post from 'businessinsider' (lol) because for some reason you get easily triggered by the hate directed at Andromeda. And you're posting just to be argumentative and confrontational. It's sad. I'm jumping in here. You say your not trolling yet you insult him. That is childish and unnecessary. Also there are more positive reviews than negative so good luck with that. Actually... no there's not. If you go by metacritic reviews, there's more negative reviews than positive - if you want to add user reviews, it's a tidal wave of negativity.
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Post by henkiedepost on May 9, 2017 21:22:56 GMT
Still though, it's kinda sad that we have to specifically point out positive reviews to counter the abundance of negative ones... I would rather see that almost all professional critics loved the game but, even though there are some reviews here, that seems to be far from the case.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 9, 2017 21:42:18 GMT
So, how positive does a review have to be to be counted in this thread? Because most of the serious reviews I have seen were at least towards the positive side, giving the game a 75 or more (which is certainly not negative). I mean, I like the game and I like to think I gave it a pretty positive review. Doesn't change the fact that the game has a shitton of problems, issues and faults and they are all mentioned (unless I forgot some ) but that doesn't tale away from the fact that I still have a positive view on the game overall. Now, I think one problem is that the Mass Effect games so far were brilliant and that reflected in their reviews as well, getting them scores around the 90% mark, which is excellent (and it was deserved because those games were excellent). So compared to them and coming in with the expectation that ME:A holds up this ME tradition, ME:A is a disappointment (and it was for me as well). Still, seen among games overall, I still think the ME:A doesn't do badly, it just unfortunately doesn't quite stack up to the predecessors.
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Post by smilesja on May 9, 2017 21:46:48 GMT
So, how positive does a review have to be to be counted in this thread? Because most of the serious reviews I have seen were at least towards the positive side, giving the game a 75 or more (which is certainly not negative). I mean, I like the game and I like to think I gave it a pretty positive review. Doesn't change the fact that the game has a shitton of problems, issues and faults and they are all mentioned (unless I forgot some ) but that doesn't tale away from the fact that I still have a positive view on the game overall. Now, I think one problem is that the Mass Effect games so far were brilliant and that reflected in their reviews as well, getting them scores around the 90% mark, which is excellent (and it was deserved because those games were excellent). So compared to them and coming in with the expectation that ME:A holds up this ME tradition, ME:A is a disappointment (and it was for me as well). Still, seen among games overall, I still think the ME:A doesn't do badly, it just unfortunately doesn't quite stack up to the predecessors. What makes you think people who like the game aren't acknowledging its problems?
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Post by smilesja on May 9, 2017 21:47:58 GMT
That certainly is well written Only slightly positive though, I'd argue that 7,5/10 is still rather disappointing and authors summary is rather bittersweet as well. Since when does 75 mean "slightly" positive?
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Post by suikoden on May 9, 2017 22:00:59 GMT
That certainly is well written Only slightly positive though, I'd argue that 7,5/10 is still rather disappointing and authors summary is rather bittersweet as well. Since when does 75 mean "slightly" positive? For a AAA game 75% is really, really bad. And Andromeda is closer to 70 than 75. Look at it from this perspective, if you go by metacritic reviews, Andromeda is something like the 65th best rates PS4 game for 2017. 65 games have scored better. Let that sink in.
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Post by smilesja on May 9, 2017 22:04:34 GMT
Since when does 75 mean "slightly" positive? For a AAA game 75% is really, really bad. And Andromeda is closer to 70 than 75. Look at it from this perspective, if you go by metacritic reviews, Andromeda is something like the 65th best rates PS4 game for 2017. 65 games have scored better. Let that sink in. Really, really bad? Call of duty infinite Warfare had a 73 metacritic score and it seems to going strong for it. A 75 means it's good not great but there are plenty of worse AAA games than ME: A.
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Post by griffith82 on May 9, 2017 22:05:48 GMT
Since when does 75 mean "slightly" positive? For a AAA game 75% is really, really bad. And Andromeda is closer to 70 than 75. Look at it from this perspective, if you go by metacritic reviews, Andromeda is something like the 65th best rates PS4 game for 2017. 65 games have scored better. Let that sink in. I really suggest you just stop. I just left metacritic and it is exactly 50/50. 28 positive, 28 mixed and one negative. Even some of the mixed ones are positive. Also AAA or not a 7.5 or 75 is not bad.
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Post by AnDromedary on May 9, 2017 22:12:22 GMT
So, how positive does a review have to be to be counted in this thread? Because most of the serious reviews I have seen were at least towards the positive side, giving the game a 75 or more (which is certainly not negative). I mean, I like the game and I like to think I gave it a pretty positive review. Doesn't change the fact that the game has a shitton of problems, issues and faults and they are all mentioned (unless I forgot some ) but that doesn't tale away from the fact that I still have a positive view on the game overall. Now, I think one problem is that the Mass Effect games so far were brilliant and that reflected in their reviews as well, getting them scores around the 90% mark, which is excellent (and it was deserved because those games were excellent). So compared to them and coming in with the expectation that ME:A holds up this ME tradition, ME:A is a disappointment (and it was for me as well). Still, seen among games overall, I still think the ME:A doesn't do badly, it just unfortunately doesn't quite stack up to the predecessors. What makes you think people who like the game aren't acknowledging its problems? I don't, in fact, I said that I myself like the game but are acknowledging its problems. What I as confused about is that this thread makes it look like it's hard to find positive reviews about ME:A. It's not. The only thing that would be hard would be to find reviews such as in the OP that are ONLY positive. And IMO it's good that there aren't too many of those because they are just not very genuine. They wouldn't be genuine for ME:A and neither for any other game I have played. After all, nobody (and no game) is perfect. Therefore, I think the premise of this thread is a bit weird.
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Post by suikoden on May 9, 2017 22:24:29 GMT
For a AAA game 75% is really, really bad. And Andromeda is closer to 70 than 75. Look at it from this perspective, if you go by metacritic reviews, Andromeda is something like the 65th best rates PS4 game for 2017. 65 games have scored better. Let that sink in. Really, really bad? Call of duty infinite Warfare had a 73 metacritic score and it seems to going strong for it. A 75 means it's good not great but there are plenty of worse AAA games than ME: A. Call of Duty IW will sell millions regardless - but is still affected by bad reviews as it sold way less than Black Ops. You're also cherry picking with that one - feel free to post other AAA games with 40m Dev budgets that came out in 2017 that average worse than Andromedas 70% - ill wait.
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Post by aglomeracja on May 9, 2017 22:25:26 GMT
That certainly is well written Only slightly positive though, I'd argue that 7,5/10 is still rather disappointing and authors summary is rather bittersweet as well. Since when does 75 mean "slightly" positive? "Slightly" came after reading the whole review because its author is complaining about a whole lot of things. Then he comes to the general conclusion that he considers the game fun despite its flaws- that's why i said that the summary is rather bittesweet. As for the rating itself, 7,5 is not a high score for an AAA game, Bioware game and Mass Effect game. I rate it 6/10 and if it wasn't both Mass Effect and Bioware game I wouldn't bother joining any forums, reading about development process, discussing it and occasionally ranting about it. 6/10 is decent, but for this franchise it's really bad and same goes for 7,5 IMO.
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Post by suikoden on May 9, 2017 22:30:35 GMT
For a AAA game 75% is really, really bad. And Andromeda is closer to 70 than 75. Look at it from this perspective, if you go by metacritic reviews, Andromeda is something like the 65th best rates PS4 game for 2017. 65 games have scored better. Let that sink in. I really suggest you just stop. I just left metacritic and it is exactly 50/50. 28 positive, 28 mixed and one negative. Even some of the mixed ones are positive. Also AAA or not a 7.5 or 75 is not bad. All of the "unscored" reviews below those are also negative. And nice job ignoring the 4.7 user scores. And now you're just playing with words. Most of the positive ones are also mixed - see how easy that is? See my comment above - 75% is horrid in gaming. That's No Mans Sky quality. There's 65+ PS4 games that have scored better than Andromeda this year alone.
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Post by wolfsite on May 9, 2017 23:12:00 GMT
I really suggest you just stop. I just left metacritic and it is exactly 50/50. 28 positive, 28 mixed and one negative. Even some of the mixed ones are positive. Also AAA or not a 7.5 or 75 is not bad. All of the "unscored" reviews below those are also negative. And nice job ignoring the 4.7 user scores. And now you're just playing with words. Most of the positive ones are also mixed - see how easy that is? See my comment above - 75% is horrid in gaming. That's No Mans Sky quality. There's 65+ PS4 games that have scored better than Andromeda this year alone. well we can justify ignoring a lot of the user reviews because many of them are 0's from people who quite clearly haven't played the game and are either hating on Bioware for promoting both a Pro-SJW agenda and an Anti-SJW agenda.
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Post by griffith82 on May 9, 2017 23:22:23 GMT
I really suggest you just stop. I just left metacritic and it is exactly 50/50. 28 positive, 28 mixed and one negative. Even some of the mixed ones are positive. Also AAA or not a 7.5 or 75 is not bad. All of the "unscored" reviews below those are also negative. And nice job ignoring the 4.7 user scores. And now you're just playing with words. Most of the positive ones are also mixed - see how easy that is? See my comment above - 75% is horrid in gaming. That's No Mans Sky quality. There's 65+ PS4 games that have scored better than Andromeda this year alone. Yes because the user reviews are bull. If you take metacritic user reviews seriously then it's one more reason to ignore you.
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Post by danishgambit on May 9, 2017 23:31:56 GMT
There are too many 0/10 user reviews to ever take metacritic seriously. Kids these days think they're making a difference or something by this nonsense but they're really just showing how naive they are.
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Post by blueasari on May 10, 2017 0:32:21 GMT
Sadly for a Mass Effect game, mediocre just does not cut it which is truly sad. I would say that ME2 and ME3 are overrated with MEA being better than both. The issue is more everyone taking reviews as the Gospel or divine scripture. But then again, people do this with everything in life. Propaganda is fickle bitch. That is something we disagree on then.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 10, 2017 0:51:56 GMT
There are too many 0/10 user reviews to ever take metacritic seriously. Kids these days think they're making a difference or something by this nonsense but they're really just showing how naive they are. It's better to ignore the number score itself and look into what they explain as pros/cons. Half the time when I do my own reviews I tend to not even give a number score, I just say whether it's an awful, bad, ok, good, or great game. So long as people have an explanation for their reasoning then that's all that really counts, regardless if another may disagree or not. As for andromeda itself, I think people are overreaching when it gets a score of 0-4 and 8 and above but that's just me. Some don't give it enough credit, others give it to much credit.
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