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Post by RageUnderFire on May 11, 2017 0:42:45 GMT
Taking some time out and rebooting with a fresh game that makes people forget about Andromeda and its shortcomings seems more likely imo
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Post by kino on May 11, 2017 0:43:53 GMT
Even if we don't get another mass Effect game or Andromeda sequel for years or even ever again, I think Bioware and EA should at least take the time to develop dlc that ties up all the loose ends to this game. They know they have a huge fan base still loyal enough to buy the dlc. I'm not talking about just the quarian ark either. The benefactor mystery, the Kett, Jaardan, etc all could be tied up in one dlc expansion. Leveraging Meridian as the new HUB world and expanding on the existing maps, they could have the next wave of Kett show up and introduce the Jaardan. Meridian's map can lead to more remnant exploration which allows to figure out how to defeat the Kett for good. In turn it also explains the mysteries of the Jaardan, Meridian, and the Scourage Personally, I think we arrived after a big civil war anyways so there is no need to introduce new races. The dlc starts with going after the quarian ark which is what easily escalates the whole final chapter. Meridian has the potential to become hostile to the Hyperion people so Ryder has to make concrete decisions. This in turns leads him/her to uncover the benefactor mystery as to see if returning to the Milky to escape the Tom foolery of the Jaardan is even an option. It's not!!! But we learn. Whatever happens can still lead to a sequel but at least ties up enough loose ends that the game teases the entire time. Thoughts?? The plot ends that were left dangling would be too big to close with a DLC. I suspect most of those loose ends will be left to be answered in a sequel.
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Post by blueasari on May 11, 2017 0:44:56 GMT
For me no, I will be happy if Ryder does not return, That's of course if the Mass Effect series even returns at all down the line.
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Post by kino on May 11, 2017 0:46:59 GMT
Not worried. If the game had been a revenue failure EA would have said so on the investor call. It's an investor call, not a fan base call. Since I've heard nothing about EA adjusting earnings for the last quarter I'm thinking there's no news there to be told, just a way to generate clicks during a news day.
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Post by decafhigh on May 11, 2017 0:48:16 GMT
At least I still have Bethesda for RPGs I guess I guess is appropriate. If it weren't for the modders, none of those games would be great. None. However, that's the beauty of it all, the game is still being played way after development is done and people are purchasing the game because of the modding available. The games, in vanilla form, are at best a 6 or a 7. With the accompanied DLC, add another point. With modding, add another point. In Fallout 4's case, modders get two points because they actually bridged the gap with settlements and main questing with Sim Settlements, Blueprint Transfers, etc. Bethesda is a publisher that you have to wait until the development cycle is over because the game is broken in too many ways at launch. /shrug I can't remember a single bug I ran into in my first FO4 run. Aside from a few odd quest issues in Skyrim I had nothing game breaking or stopping my progress. Both games delivered way above and beyond what they set out to do. You can not like that style of game, that is fine, but both of them are great games that are very successful at the style of game and story they try to deliver, which is more than be said for MEA. Mod'ing is just the icing on a very delicious cake.
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Post by guanxi on May 11, 2017 0:48:44 GMT
To be honest while I found ME:A enjoyable and want the series to continue i'm not really bothered if BioWare never answer any of this stuff as non of it is terribly engaging. If we ever see another Mass Effect I'd prefer another attempt at a reboot rather than any attempt to salvage this incarnation and continue in the same vein.
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Post by jedidotflow on May 11, 2017 0:51:35 GMT
I just hope the Secret IP is not another fantasy game. There's a real lack of immersive sci-fi RPGs. *sigh* Help me Cyberpunk 2077, you're my only hope.Might have to make that my signature. Go for it!
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Post by RageUnderFire on May 11, 2017 0:53:22 GMT
To be honest while I found ME:A enjoyable and want the series to continue i'm not really bothered if BioWare never answer any of this stuff as non of it is terribly engaging. If we ever see another Mass Effect I'd prefer another attempt at a reboot rather than attempt to salvage this. Why is this?
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Post by guanxi on May 11, 2017 0:54:36 GMT
To be honest while I found ME:A enjoyable and want the series to continue i'm not really bothered if BioWare never answer any of this stuff as non of it is terribly engaging. If we ever see another Mass Effect I'd prefer another attempt at a reboot rather than attempt to salvage this. Why is this? Because I think we as fans and the original source material deserve better. They can do much better than this.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on May 11, 2017 0:56:38 GMT
With how technically gifted BioWare has been I just cannot see them do a game like Destiny or Division without it feeling like a complete mess but I'm actually cautiously optimistic about what they're doing because I imagine it will be like Destiny but with companions (a bit like SWTOR), action mechanics and lots and lots of replay value.
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Post by laudable11 on May 11, 2017 0:57:51 GMT
So according to this thread if i didn't loved Andromeda and criticized Bioware for their work with the game i'm part of the group of haters that wanted the game to fail ? There's a lot of cool things in this game but there's also a lot of horrible things about it. Sucking bioware's nuts without criticizing them wouldn't've helped either. Agreed. It ain't our fault. BioWare released a buggy mess of a game coupled with childish writing. It is BioWare's fault.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 0:58:48 GMT
With how technically gifted BioWare has been I just cannot see them do a game like Destiny or Division without it feeling like a complete mess but I'm actually cautiously optimistic about what they're doing because I imagine it will be like Destiny but with companions (a bit like SWTOR), action mechanics and lots and lots of replay value. Destiny style with a proper story, companions and tons of fun with friends on the side? sounds good to me. Lets hope it delivers.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 11, 2017 0:59:44 GMT
Even if we don't get another mass Effect game or Andromeda sequel for years or even ever again, I think Bioware and EA should at least take the time to develop dlc that ties up all the loose ends to this game. They know they have a huge fan base still loyal enough to buy the dlc. I'm not talking about just the quarian ark either. The benefactor mystery, the Kett, Jaardan, etc all could be tied up in one dlc expansion. Leveraging Meridian as the new HUB world and expanding on the existing maps, they could have the next wave of Kett show up and introduce the Jaardan. Meridian's map can lead to more remnant exploration which allows to figure out how to defeat the Kett for good. In turn it also explains the mysteries of the Jaardan, Meridian, and the Scourage Personally, I think we arrived after a big civil war anyways so there is no need to introduce new races. The dlc starts with going after the quarian ark which is what easily escalates the whole final chapter. Meridian has the potential to become hostile to the Hyperion people so Ryder has to make concrete decisions. This in turns leads him/her to uncover the benefactor mystery as to see if returning to the Milky to escape the Tom foolery of the Jaardan is even an option. It's not!!! But we learn. Whatever happens can still lead to a sequel but at least ties up enough loose ends that the game teases the entire time. Thoughts?? The plot ends that were left dangling would be too big to close with a DLC. I suspect most of those loose ends will be left to be answered in a sequel. Considering the news today, we won't be getting a sequel anytime within the next few years. They may not even continue this story with them breaking up the teams and Montreal only doing patch and multiplayer support. Right now with Montreal doing multiplayer support, Edmonton doing the new IP and the rest doing Battlefront 2, they may not even do dlc. All those loose ends lose value if we wait 5+ years for the next installment. There was more closure in ME1 and ME2 without the dlcs. So I'm asking for them tie up or at least semi tie up the smaller loose ends and give some more hints to the over arching mystery
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on May 11, 2017 1:00:01 GMT
So according to this thread if i didn't loved Andromeda and criticized Bioware for their work with the game i'm part of the group of haters that wanted the game to fail ? There's a lot of cool things in this game but there's also a lot of horrible things about it. Sucking bioware's nuts without criticizing them wouldn't've helped either. Agreed. It ain't our fault. BioWare released a buggy mess of a game coupled with childish writing. It is BioWare's fault. Yeah, I mean. It's not rocket science. If the game had genuinely been good and impressive perhaps the reaction would've been great and the game would've actually stayed no. 1 in the sales charts of April.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on May 11, 2017 1:01:46 GMT
With how technically gifted BioWare has been I just cannot see them do a game like Destiny or Division without it feeling like a complete mess but I'm actually cautiously optimistic about what they're doing because I imagine it will be like Destiny but with companions (a bit like SWTOR), action mechanics and lots and lots of replay value. Destiny style with a proper story, companions and tons of fun with friends on the side? sounds good to me. Lets hope it delivers. Agreed. I actually think people love to misrepresent Destiny as some of the worst of the worst. I spent many hours in it willingly because it had vibes and it had potential. I actually think it's unnerving to think BioWare will attempt something similar because Destiny, for all it got wrong, had some really darn solid gameplay. (Except bosses!)
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Post by Realguile on May 11, 2017 1:02:28 GMT
I hope the game get some single player dlc at least. Let's see them deliver on what they said they were going to do to fix the core game before we get any crappy DLC.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on May 11, 2017 1:02:51 GMT
If Montreal has been significantly downscaled how are they going to produce content of the same caliber as the main missions in the game? I'm not really counting on it tbh.
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Post by Eterna on May 11, 2017 1:04:36 GMT
Can someone please direct to the quote stating that Mass Effect olis over?
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Post by colfoley on May 11, 2017 1:06:23 GMT
Its bullshit. The game may be on life support but i highly doubt it's dead. I doubt it's even on life support. in cases like this I'd rather be pleasantly surprised then unpleasantly disappointed
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Post by colfoley on May 11, 2017 1:08:04 GMT
This could probably mean a couple of patches and no DLCs at all. Well I hope people are now happy. Thinking that bitching is going to give you a better product...flash news...It won't. After Deus Ex this is the second franchise I love that is put on halt...while crap like Battlefield, Battlefront and CoD are released every freaking year....damn if it goes like this I won't have anything to play with. if you need DLC to make a shit game good you are doing it wrong but dlc can take a great game and make it...legendary.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 11, 2017 1:08:51 GMT
Because I think we as fans and the original source material deserve better. They can do much better than this. The current material with the Jaardan, Scourage, biogenetic engineering and possible civil war all happening right before we arrive to Andromeda with the Jaardan ceasing to exist and the origins of the a much larger Kett threat.....is just as intriguing if not more than reaper cuddledish harvesting the galaxy. They can easily make the second game incredible if done right. They showed that with Meridian, the vaults, the actual planet exploration and the combat. They just need to perfect the use of the frostbite engine, tweak the character writing and presentation, and add my diverse gameplay to the open world. And open world isn't the issue. Go back and watch the previews for Assassins Creed black flag. That game was incredible because the devs made sure that there was always something new and interesting to do our discover when getting from point A to B. And they did it with Dover gameplay so it didn't get stale. Adding good vehicle combat, rescue missions, larger battles in the distance that can engage in, ability to steal other vehicles and mechs, legendary rewards like unique armor, weapons and tools for doing side quests, etc would all help perfect the formula. Couple that with a great campaign and story focuses optional missions all being linear and it's a solid game again
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Post by Scottphoto on May 11, 2017 1:11:06 GMT
I wish and hope so but I sincerely doubt it. I can only hope they take parts of Andromeda for a sequel in some form. Not really interested in another reboot to the franchise. Lets say its an amazeballs reboot but it if still underperforms, EA will still cancel the whole thing. Don't want to be invested once again only to be shot in the foot again.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 1:14:52 GMT
With how technically gifted BioWare has been I just cannot see them do a game like Destiny or Division without it feeling like a complete mess but I'm actually cautiously optimistic about what they're doing because I imagine it will be like Destiny but with companions (a bit like SWTOR), action mechanics and lots and lots of replay value. Destiny style with a proper story, companions and tons of fun with friends on the side? sounds good to me. Lets hope it delivers. Right?!? Seeing that they're using Frostbite for this... well... I'm optimistic too.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 11, 2017 1:17:13 GMT
if you need DLC to make a shit game good you are doing it wrong but dlc can take a great game and make it...legendary. It can, but it shouldn't be used a crutch. In Andromeda's case, it's absolutely necessary. In Inquisition's case it helped close loose ends. Citadel, Omega, Trespasser, Mark of the Assassin, Awakenings (faults and all), etc. made this Bioware junkie very, very content.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 11, 2017 1:17:49 GMT
Whilst I like Ryder and would love their story to continue into another game if they don't wrap the threads up and continue the story into a new game then they'll have to close the threads up via the DLC's as I think those of us that did invest in MEA and liked it would at least want that. Like for example what happened with the Quarian Ark. Also did Sara and Scott find a cure for their mothers illness so she could be brought out of stasis? That sort of thing. Also what became of the Primus and the remaining Kett in Heleus in the end perhaps as well might make for a good finishing DLC.
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