Mass Effect hiatus speculation and reactions (consolidated thread)

There have also been a series of tweets from a level designer (sjoz ?) talking about making new levels.  The obvious assumption is that they're for a DLC, though I suppose he could be working on some other project.

Yeah, funny how that works.

I figure you pretty much call everyone who disagrees with you a 'regressive'.

Ok, but you're generalising too. The term "SJW" wasn't created by people opposing equality of right or represantation of different groups. There are certain ideologues who call themselves SJW's, even today. Generally it does have pejorative meaning though, but it depends who usues it and for what purpose. Pretty much like any other term.

I certainly am anti-SJW, but I don't have anything agaist LGBT or non-white characters in games. My problem with Andromeda (definitely not the biggest one) is with the way they've done it.

Sure you can't read minds, but you can see the context (Bioware is a Canadian company-> Canadian contemporary political and intelectual movements are the context) and the result. It's certain that whoever wrote Hainley didn't care for tras people personally from the way she's presented- telling her previous name to complete stranger along with the whole story etc. If writer would have any clue about those people, he\she wouldn't present her in so stereotypical and false way. That's a great example of virtue signalling and being a SJW fitting definition I have previously provided.

Ofc, we might make a conspiracy theory that whoever wrote that was intentionally trying to make trans people look stupid, can't say for sure

Anyway, Bioware was always inclusive and that's fine. The problem is that it went to far and is done in a way that harms the story\character design\gamers experience.

Hainley is one of the most obvious examples, but not the only one.

As for the second paragraph, I agree. Peebee's and Cora's looks are fine, there certainly are other (minor) weirdly ugly characters, it could be due to technical issues. Sara's looks do seem downgraded though...

I'm guessing you never thought they would reach 3 million anyway, so I don't really care about your projections for the game.  What I DO care about is that the people in this business reached their projections for the first week, and so, because they are experts and got the one part right, I have no logical reason to believe they wouldn't also reach the 6 million copies sold lifetime they were expecting.  

I don't see why they'd be crucified if they confirmed DLC plans remained fully in place.

The thing that really ticks me off is the game that needs to be put on hold is SWTOR! of all the crap garbage out their being supported when it should be dead in the dirt... its that game. Maybe if the redirected some of that resource the MEA, things would have been a lot better. SWTOR has been reduced to a freemium model that balances a PVE game around PVP. Its a complete mess.... but this is the game being placed on hold... go figure.

Well - I don't see why they get crucified for a lot of things, but they certainly do.


So what do you call someone who automatically scapegoats identity politics, even where true motivation is unknown?

Holy Father, this is still going??

There has been no official statement regarding this, nor any previous statement that corroborates this piece of bullcrap fake news.

Kotaku should go down over this. It's just sad.

Okay - so any content that has to do with sexuality or gender identity is "SJW branded identity politics."

Does that mean that things like sexuality and gender identity can't just be a regular part of world-building? Are we supposed to assume that everyone is straight and cis-gendered, and ignore the possibility that those who are not might exist in that world?

Or should we just assume that nobody is straight / cis-gendered unless they specifically preach about it?


Did they try to tell you how you are supposed to feel about these "SJW branded identity politics"?  Or do you mean something else by "preaching"?


Could you provide an example of a "rant on gender identity or pronouns" that was included in a BioWare game?

I was a little surprised that she was that up-front with Ryder - but otherwise found that whole encounter unremarkable. As in, I wouldn't have thought anything about it were it not for all the wailing and teeth gnashing.

I guess stuff like that just doesn't trigger me...

I think the news of a hiatus for a game they love so much might just be wearing on them - and right now all theyre capable of doing is putting their heads in the sand, flailing to understand how such a gem of a game isn't going to get a sequel.

They can't be reasoned with, just wait a week or two and they'll be gone.