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Post by decafhigh on May 12, 2017 14:56:27 GMT
/sigh No it really doesn't. Yes online bullying is a thing and is a real problem among teens and kids that use too much social media. You (I am assuming) and BW are adults, BW in particular are adults with careers oriented around technology and online media sources. They are not being "traumatized" by internet memes and meanies on their forums. If they are they need serious professional psychiatric help for their various mental health issues. Child abuse and domestic violence are real horrific crimes that real people have to deal with. Comparing that to being upset by "ugly Sara" memes or people not liking the ending to your video game that just made you millions of dollars is just ridiculous.  How about angry fans ferreting out the programmer's family's personal phone numbers and sending them the threats over the class balance changes? This monstrosity happened with SWTOR team and it grew out of the whole internet hysteria. Calling and threatening someone I think would be a crime and those people should be prosecuted to whatever extent the law allows. Still not remotely comparable to physical violence and psychological abuse at the hands of a parent, spouse, or other loved one. The fact I even have to make this point is completely crazy. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 15:15:41 GMT
How about angry fans ferreting out the programmer's family's personal phone numbers and sending them the threats over the class balance changes? This monstrosity happened with SWTOR team and it grew out of the whole internet hysteria. Calling and threatening someone I think would be a crime and those people should be prosecuted to whatever extent the law allows. Still not remotely comparable to physical violence and psychological abuse at the hands of a parent, spouse, or other loved one. The fact I even have to make this point is completely crazy. The psychological effects on the "victim" are much the same... not the same degree. You're conflating the fact that I used a more serious example to illustrate the fact that the reaction of the vicitim in either case is NOT a positive change... not what the badgering claims to be expecting. A person who beats his/her spouse claims they want the spouse to do better, but the spouse only loses self-esteem and does not do better. The same sort of thing is going on here... the "hating" fans claim they want the company to do better... but the amount of hate is damaging the company in such a way that it cannot do better. My comparisons are not always equal... they illustrate things but not always on equal terms. So don't get your panties in a know over it. |
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 12, 2017 15:22:40 GMT
How many participation trophies you got in your case?
I have none. I have some ribbons for second and third. I have a few participation certificates. And I have medals and trophies for the times I actually won.
First of all, you are comparing the beating of wives and children by men to how we treat video game developers who we pay for a product. If you can't see that difference, good luck little snowflake it is hot in hell.
When total strangers call me names or make fun of me about what I am doing IRL, I either: laugh at them, laugh with them, or call their bluff.
When a total stranger on the internet calls me an idiot, I do mostly the same, and am ready to ignore them pretty easily because yay anonymous douche on the internet.
@upupawayredux, you make it seem like the devs are all children that need coddling and handholding. They are not children ffs.
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Post by darkway1 on May 12, 2017 15:26:43 GMT
Why oh why are people focusing on social bulling and general internet venom when at the end of the day Andromeda DIDN'T deliver the goods.Right here,right now,I'm playing a glitch fest,it didn't deliver,it didn't make the cash EA/Bioware wanted,so the franchise may end up in a box down the cellar.
If internet venom/outcry could actually change how business produces it's products (games),then Andromeda should have turned out differently to the version we actually got......people complained about Pebee and female Ryder from day one,did they change anything.....nope.
Using the same Asari model to represent an entire race or the universal Angara model used for the females .........how does negative internet drama translate into that level of development laziness??????
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Post by decafhigh on May 12, 2017 15:40:20 GMT
Calling and threatening someone I think would be a crime and those people should be prosecuted to whatever extent the law allows. Still not remotely comparable to physical violence and psychological abuse at the hands of a parent, spouse, or other loved one. The fact I even have to make this point is completely crazy. The psychological effects on the "victim" are much the same... not the same degree. You're conflating the fact that I used a more serious example to illustrate the fact that the reaction of the vicitim in either case is NOT a positive change... not what the badgering claims to be expecting. A person who beats his/her spouse claims they want the spouse to do better, but the spouse only loses self-esteem and does not do better. The same sort of thing is going on here... the "hating" fans claim they want the company to do better... but the amount of hate is damaging the company in such a way that it cannot do better. My comparisons are not always equal... they illustrate things but not always on equal terms. So don't get your panties in a know over it.  I'm not going to keep dragging this on, but your comparison is outright ridiculous. If the BW developers are that thin skinned (and maybe they are I don't know) they are definitely in the wrong industry and need to find a job where they have like zero interaction with another human being. Comparing them to victims of domestic violence though is the height of fallacy. So go ahead, keep on shoveling. |
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Post by sevalaricgirl on May 12, 2017 16:00:10 GMT
You can also blame the overall direction, the bad writing, and at times, the cringe worthy dialog. Those are my fundamental problems with the game, not the cosmetic stuff. If the game was actually well written and exciting, I think the bugs etc wouldn't be as showcased by people. The uninspired direction and technical issues is what led to the uproar. This game doesn't have a whole lot going for it, which is why it's very easy to criticize. Finally, someone said it. This game would not have gotten all the bad reviews if it didn't release with really bad dialogue/writing. If it released with animations that were fixed, dialogue that was unique and worthy of BW in the past, you probably wouldn't see most of these bad reviews. Not to mention, with all the time and money they spent on the soft core that was directed at 20 yr olds, they could have rewritten much of the dialogue. People moan about DA2, but to me, that game was much, much better. Not to say I'm not enjoying MEA. I love the unique areas and pretty much ignore the poor writing. It just seems to be that there was a total disconnect between the levels designers and the writers/animations/etc. So it completely falls on BW and the project lead who should have done his homework and made them fix it before it launched. I've never seen a game where you couldn't customize a white player character and wasn't appreciative that my as white as I could get her player character with the default brother, did not get the default father. Yes, i know you get to see him for 5 minutes but you hear about him through the game. With 5 yrs, he had plenty of time to do his job. |
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Post by Revan Reborn on May 12, 2017 16:04:44 GMT
I still believe in terms of what the game provides, it's the best Mass Effect experience to date. No, it doesn't have the best story or the best characters. That being said, when compared to ME1 as a foundational game, I think the game holds up fairly well. Bugs, bad publicity, and controversy destroyed MEA's chances at success.
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Post by sevalaricgirl on May 12, 2017 16:07:49 GMT
Calling and threatening someone I think would be a crime and those people should be prosecuted to whatever extent the law allows. Still not remotely comparable to physical violence and psychological abuse at the hands of a parent, spouse, or other loved one. The fact I even have to make this point is completely crazy. The psychological effects on the "victim" are much the same... not the same degree. You're conflating the fact that I used a more serious example to illustrate the fact that the reaction of the vicitim in either case is NOT a positive change... not what the badgering claims to be expecting. A person who beats his/her spouse claims they want the spouse to do better, but the spouse only loses self-esteem and does not do better. The same sort of thing is going on here... the "hating" fans claim they want the company to do better... but the amount of hate is damaging the company in such a way that it cannot do better. My comparisons are not always equal... they illustrate things but not always on equal terms. So don't get your panties in a know over it. This is total BS. I work in a tech industry in a huge corporation. If we screw up, we are accountable for it and we hear it. We don't cancel the next project because we got hung by the press. I don't think anyone has gone to BW headquarters and beat the hell out of the writers or animation guys. Please. Your comparison doesn't illustrate anything. A better illustration is Square Enix FFXIV, who took their crap game, took it offline and recreated it all over again. That is what you should be comparing. You can even compare the DAI to MEA because the writing in the previous is really good and enjoyable and the writing in MEA really needed a lot more revision. Honestly, I blame BW for assigning the game to an untested team, Montreal. |
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Post by darkway1 on May 12, 2017 16:10:38 GMT
I still believe in terms of what the game provides, it's the best Mass Effect experience to date. No, it doesn't have the best story or the best characters. That being said, when compared to ME1 as a foundational game, I think the game holds up fairly well. Bugs, bad publicity, and controversy destroyed MEA's chances at success. Bioware fans expect good story and good characters,it's what the Bioware brand means. ME1 had a lot more to do than Andromeda,ME1 had to establish everything about the ME universe. |
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Post by Cannibal on May 12, 2017 16:52:45 GMT
BioWare is pretty much EA now. And they're too blame for this game, since they made it.
I know there are fans here that try to separate the two, but you can't anymore. The BioWare that created the games that we love, they don't exist anymore, they haven't for 10 years, we need to stop living in the past and believing that BioWare can ever create games like those they made before.
They don't have it in them, because it's no longer their focus. BioWare doesn't want to go back to being king of the RPGs, they don't even want to fight for the throne anymore. They just want to make shitty action games with microtransactions at the forefront.
Maybe one day they'll realize this but I doubt it, they're too stupid too understand that hiring people who openly hate your biggest demographic(because facing facts, the biggest demographic for science fiction and RPGs, is still by far, White Males) doesn't sell your product.
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Post by linksocarina on May 12, 2017 16:54:23 GMT
I still believe in terms of what the game provides, it's the best Mass Effect experience to date. No, it doesn't have the best story or the best characters. That being said, when compared to ME1 as a foundational game, I think the game holds up fairly well. Bugs, bad publicity, and controversy destroyed MEA's chances at success. Bioware fans expect good story and good characters,it's what the Bioware brand means. ME1 had a lot more to do than Andromeda,ME1 had to establish everything about the ME universe. Didn't Andromeda have to establish everything about the Andromedan Galaxy though? |
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Post by unwanted on May 12, 2017 17:11:02 GMT
I think they have just realized if they had remastered ME1 they would have 10x the sales.
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Post by sortiv on May 12, 2017 17:24:28 GMT
The appropriate response to a game you didn't enjoy isn't to post about it on Reddit, or Twitter, or this message board - it's to stop playing it, and go do something else. Bullcrap. if a consumer buys a product & its not up to scratch, they totally have the right to complain, a LOT! Its the only way to we have to give a bloody nose to crap Management & Corporations. I'm not talking about what people should do as consumers. Why should someone think of themselves as a consumer anyway? My statement was less about being a consumer, and more about being a balanced human being, and directing energy efficiently. That's why I specifically pointed out how EA re-frames all your complaining. You have the right to complain a lot, sure. But you didn't answer my question: what has it accomplished? This is the same sort of complaining that's been going on since 2011 after Dragon Age 2, or better yet, the same type of complaining that Baldur's Gate fans leveled at Mass Effect simply because it wasn't isometric and it had guns. It seems Bioware's direction as a company, despite all their posturing about fan feedback, seems to continue along mostly independent of our complaining. Consider that before wasting anymore time trying to get them to pay attention to tweets and forum posts. I think it's better to just move on, despite paying 60 bucks for a video game. Your life doesn't get worse because a video game is bad; I would argue your life is worse if complaining about that video game becomes a regular part of your week. |
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Post by codephat on May 12, 2017 17:27:00 GMT
What an odd question. . .
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Post by sortiv on May 12, 2017 17:29:24 GMT
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Post by smudgedhorizon on May 12, 2017 17:44:45 GMT
Essentially no RPG I have ever played (Final Fantasy series, Star Ocean series, Elder Scrolls Morrowind, Oblivion, & Skyrim, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, Fallout 4, to name just a couple) have been without their vast glaring flaws and bugs and issues. Andromeda is literally no worse than any of them. The fanbase reacted horribly and the overblown criticisms went viral and as expected - it has now killed the franchise. Like how Zelda fans praise and adore their games even if parts are bad - Bioware "fans" are the toxic opposite and viciously criticise pretty much everything even when it's good. The ridiculous vitriol over the sodding character creator for instance - it is just pathetic guys. I adored the game, flaws and all, I've enjoyed hundreds of hours and while it isn't perfect, no game is. It's damn good fun, quintessentially Mass Effect, has interesting new characters and story, tons of content, exciting new worlds and romances, it's a great game and worth every penny I spent on it. I can see the team did their absolute best to create a Mass Effect game all the fans would love. It's a damn shame what our criticisms have caused and shame on us all for it, we've killed the franchise. No.I'm sorry but I can't agree with your stance,I'm glad you enjoyed the game but......... How can you defend the Asari being the same model,a whole race (not a bunch of NPC's) using the same model......some one,anyone,explain how this is acceptable??? The walking animations on some of the species and present in some cut scenes are horrific,again how do you get a standard human walking animation so wrong??? The whole planet scanning process is beyond a chore,endless animations that may reward you with 150 copper or 250 xp,why bother???. Why do I need to leave the planet just to talk to some one on the tempest. Liam....is the lamest character I've ever seen in a Bioware game,his character is all over the place. Single player Apex missions......why?? Why undermine your own crafting mechanic when most of the gear just drops from enemies.....and the relevance of gear depends on your class......150 guns but I only ever use 3.??? The crew is generic as generic gets,displaying a complete lack of creativity. The female Angara,again repeatedly use the same model and look terrible compared to male counter parts. I can go on and on and I haven't even started on the bugs and glitches,I just turned my PS4 off after experiencing a Turian with his hand inside his head,there's a guy in the background lying on a trolley bed but floating and a Crogan who continues to talk to a NPC at the same time as me,duel conversations.I then go and see Gil's female friend who walks down the stairs like she shit her self????.........for me this brief example sums up my on going experience with Andromeda. ...."Pathfinder,you have email"....no SAM,no I don't......patch fixed that,nope,not on MY PS4. Your comment suggests that fans killed this franchise......no way,like you,I've played every RPG out there and yes every game has issues but Andromeda is a whole new low. Hahaha oh but you really can't have played any Bethesda game if you think Andromeda is so bad!? Have a google sweetheart and you'll see just how buggy the Fallout & Elder Scrolls series are. Like I spent 3 hours in Fallout 4 recently with my companion glitched and carrying and shooting an invisible gun. Just holding his hands out holding an invisible gun! So immersion breaking but oh god it was really funny! But that sort of thing happened all through the same - I got stuck in walls and in the floor more times than I can count. NPCs randomly started sinking into the floor or glitching into walls and scenery, disappearing, missing body parts, quests broke constantly, conpanions messed up and glitched out, conversations badly messed up, dialogue triggered wrong or not at all, and yet despite these issues (that tbh have plagued the entire series) Fallout always gets high 80/90 scores yes - for exactly the same kind of bugs Andromeda is being so criticised for. Ditto Elder Scrolls. It's kind of par for course with these huge RPGs, and none of it ever impaired my enjoyment. I guess I just don't get why other RPG devs like Bethesda do it and it's ok, but Bioware do it and it's then the greatest offence. Hand on heart I actually quite like the planet scanning, and I really enjoy the crafting, and I like the team mates (Liam is admittedly irritating but nowhere near as bad as Carth was in KOTOR!), and I couldn't care less about walking animations to be honest, it really doesn't detract from the game for me at all. Oh and for players like me, single player apex missions are just absolutely brilliant - I HATE multiplayer and it means I can get still get rewards for completing missions without being forced to play the MP. Huge win! I genuinely feel bad for you that you couldn't enjoy the good bits of the game because of things like walking animations and face models and a few glitches, which are just tiny moments of imperfection in hundreds of hours of great gameplay.  |
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 12, 2017 18:00:45 GMT
I think they have just realized if they had remastered ME1 they would have 10x the sales. Remastered games don't work like that, they actually sell less than the original because quite simply, no one wants to replay something they've already played. By no one I mean the casual fan base wouldn't give a damn, it's going to be the hardcore fans that will take interest in remastered games. Halo MCC was a collection of 4 and a half games but sold three million(granted I myself would argue that is the most buggiest piece of shot collection of games I've ever played and it got hit hard because of it, however it could've been perfect and not even hit above 7+ million at the most), if you combine all those games original individual sales, you end up with 26+ million sales. Remastered games are more of a fan service in most cases as they're not as profitable as making a completely new game. If ME1 got remastered, I'd speculate maybe 1-2 million in sales at the most but realistically I'd expect maybe 500k-1million. Say they decide to just remaster the entire trilogy, I could give it another 1-1.5 million at the most. Like I said, remastered/remakes really aren't profitable as one would think, yea they get money, but not near as much as making a new game. |
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Post by darkway1 on May 12, 2017 18:27:03 GMT
No.I'm sorry but I can't agree with your stance,I'm glad you enjoyed the game but......... How can you defend the Asari being the same model,a whole race (not a bunch of NPC's) using the same model......some one,anyone,explain how this is acceptable??? The walking animations on some of the species and present in some cut scenes are horrific,again how do you get a standard human walking animation so wrong??? The whole planet scanning process is beyond a chore,endless animations that may reward you with 150 copper or 250 xp,why bother???. Why do I need to leave the planet just to talk to some one on the tempest. Liam....is the lamest character I've ever seen in a Bioware game,his character is all over the place. Single player Apex missions......why?? Why undermine your own crafting mechanic when most of the gear just drops from enemies.....and the relevance of gear depends on your class......150 guns but I only ever use 3.??? The crew is generic as generic gets,displaying a complete lack of creativity. The female Angara,again repeatedly use the same model and look terrible compared to male counter parts. I can go on and on and I haven't even started on the bugs and glitches,I just turned my PS4 off after experiencing a Turian with his hand inside his head,there's a guy in the background lying on a trolley bed but floating and a Crogan who continues to talk to a NPC at the same time as me,duel conversations.I then go and see Gil's female friend who walks down the stairs like she shit her self????.........for me this brief example sums up my on going experience with Andromeda. ...."Pathfinder,you have email"....no SAM,no I don't......patch fixed that,nope,not on MY PS4. Your comment suggests that fans killed this franchise......no way,like you,I've played every RPG out there and yes every game has issues but Andromeda is a whole new low. Hahaha oh but you really can't have played any Bethesda game if you think Andromeda is so bad!? Have a google sweetheart and you'll see just how buggy the Fallout & Elder Scrolls series are. Like I spent 3 hours in Fallout 4 recently with my companion glitched and carrying and shooting an invisible gun. Just holding his hands out holding an invisible gun! So immersion breaking but oh god it was really funny! But that sort of thing happened all through the same - I got stuck in walls and in the floor more times than I can count. NPCs randomly started sinking into the floor or glitching into walls and scenery, disappearing, missing body parts, quests broke constantly, conpanions messed up and glitched out, conversations badly messed up, dialogue triggered wrong or not at all, and yet despite these issues (that tbh have plagued the entire series) Fallout always gets high 80/90 scores yes - for exactly the same kind of bugs Andromeda is being so criticised for. Ditto Elder Scrolls. It's kind of par for course with these huge RPGs, and none of it ever impaired my enjoyment. I guess I just don't get why other RPG devs like Bethesda do it and it's ok, but Bioware do it and it's then the greatest offence. Hand on heart I actually quite like the planet scanning, and I really enjoy the crafting, and I like the team mates (Liam is admittedly irritating but nowhere near as bad as Carth was in KOTOR!), and I couldn't care less about walking animations to be honest, it really doesn't detract from the game for me at all. Oh and for players like me, single player apex missions are just absolutely brilliant - I HATE multiplayer and it means I can get still get rewards for completing missions without being forced to play the MP. Huge win! I genuinely feel bad for you that you couldn't enjoy the good bits of the game because of things like walking animations and face models and a few glitches, which are just tiny moments of imperfection in hundreds of hours of great gameplay. What a poor attempt to down play Andromeda's glaring problems. I don't need to google information about any game sweet heart because we are here in the Mass Effect forums talking about Mass Effect Andromeda. Yep,I found it hard to enjoy the story and character narrative because Bioware failed to use THEIR tools to correctly tell THEIR story...........and I'm still waiting to here your reason why all the Asari and Angara females look the same???? |
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Post by sevalaricgirl on May 13, 2017 2:30:39 GMT
biggest demographic(because facing facts, the biggest demographic for science fiction and RPGs, is still by far, White Males) That isn't true anymore and it's stupid of Bioware or anyone else to think that. There are slightly more women RPG gamers than males, 53% vs 45%, actual numbers taken from a couple of years ago and still holds true today. The difference between the MEA team and the DAI team is that the DAI team understands that. "Female participation in gaming is increasing. According to a Entertainment Software Association survey, women players in the United States increased from 40% in 2010 to 48% in 2014.[2][3] Today, despite the dominant perception that most gamers are men,[4] the ratio of female to male gamers is balanced, mirroring the population at large.[5]" You know that number has gone up in the past few years. |
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Post by Steelcan on May 13, 2017 2:36:36 GMT
biggest demographic(because facing facts, the biggest demographic for science fiction and RPGs, is still by far, White Males) That isn't true anymore and it's stupid of Bioware or anyone else to think that. There are slightly more women RPG gamers than males, 53% vs 45%, actual numbers taken from a couple of years ago and still holds true today. The difference between the MEA team and the DAI team is that the DAI team understands that. "Female participation in gaming is increasing. According to a Entertainment Software Association survey, women players in the United States increased from 40% in 2010 to 48% in 2014.[2][3] Today, despite the dominant perception that most gamers are men,[4] the ratio of female to male gamers is balanced, mirroring the population at large.[5]" You know that number has gone up in the past few years. Does this survey take into account mobile gaming? or just traditional consoles + PC? |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 13, 2017 3:12:23 GMT
I think they have just realized if they had remastered ME1 they would have 10x the sales. Well, if the desire is for BioWare not to be lazy, suggestions that they be ultra-lazy just seem kind of strange. |
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Post by Cannibal on May 13, 2017 3:40:07 GMT
biggest demographic(because facing facts, the biggest demographic for science fiction and RPGs, is still by far, White Males) That isn't true anymore and it's stupid of Bioware or anyone else to think that. There are slightly more women RPG gamers than males, 53% vs 45%, actual numbers taken from a couple of years ago and still holds true today. The difference between the MEA team and the DAI team is that the DAI team understands that. "Female participation in gaming is increasing. According to a Entertainment Software Association survey, women players in the United States increased from 40% in 2010 to 48% in 2014.[2][3] Today, despite the dominant perception that most gamers are men,[4] the ratio of female to male gamers is balanced, mirroring the population at large.[5]" You know that number has gone up in the past few years. All that states is women are more likely to take surveys than men are. Isn't something like 70+ percent of Shepards default male? That's not even including the custom options, and also add in the guys who play as girls, and I just don't see 50+ percent being actual women. Also this game is clearly designed with females, and other non straight white males in mind. And that's why it's in the state it's in right now. |
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Post by Lady Artifice on May 13, 2017 5:13:57 GMT
Hahaha oh but you really can't have played any Bethesda game if you think Andromeda is so bad!? Have a google sweetheart and you'll see just how buggy the Fallout & Elder Scrolls series are. Like I spent 3 hours in Fallout 4 recently with my companion glitched and carrying and shooting an invisible gun. Just holding his hands out holding an invisible gun! So immersion breaking but oh god it was really funny! But that sort of thing happened all through the same - I got stuck in walls and in the floor more times than I can count. NPCs randomly started sinking into the floor or glitching into walls and scenery, disappearing, missing body parts, quests broke constantly, conpanions messed up and glitched out, conversations badly messed up, dialogue triggered wrong or not at all, and yet despite these issues (that tbh have plagued the entire series) Fallout always gets high 80/90 scores yes - for exactly the same kind of bugs Andromeda is being so criticised for. Ditto Elder Scrolls. It's kind of par for course with these huge RPGs, and none of it ever impaired my enjoyment. I guess I just don't get why other RPG devs like Bethesda do it and it's ok, but Bioware do it and it's then the greatest offence. Hand on heart I actually quite like the planet scanning, and I really enjoy the crafting, and I like the team mates (Liam is admittedly irritating but nowhere near as bad as Carth was in KOTOR!), and I couldn't care less about walking animations to be honest, it really doesn't detract from the game for me at all. Oh and for players like me, single player apex missions are just absolutely brilliant - I HATE multiplayer and it means I can get still get rewards for completing missions without being forced to play the MP. Huge win! I genuinely feel bad for you that you couldn't enjoy the good bits of the game because of things like walking animations and face models and a few glitches, which are just tiny moments of imperfection in hundreds of hours of great gameplay. What a poor attempt to down play Andromeda's glaring problems. I don't need to google information about any game sweet heart because we are here in the Mass Effect forums talking about Mass Effect Andromeda. Yep,I found it hard to enjoy the story and character narrative because Bioware failed to use THEIR tools to correctly tell THEIR story...........and I'm still waiting to here your reason why all the Asari and Angara females look the same???? To be fair, you were the one who mentioned all the other RPGs as a comparison, and called this game a new low while the ability of Bethesda games to dwarf almost anything in the bug and glitch department is a famous reality. |
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 13, 2017 5:15:27 GMT
I think they have just realized if they had remastered ME1 they would have 10x the sales. If theyd spent $40 million remasteringt he triLogy and adding the deleted scenes back in, it would be going gangbusters right now. |
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Post by Lady Artifice on May 13, 2017 5:15:49 GMT
That isn't true anymore and it's stupid of Bioware or anyone else to think that. There are slightly more women RPG gamers than males, 53% vs 45%, actual numbers taken from a couple of years ago and still holds true today. The difference between the MEA team and the DAI team is that the DAI team understands that. "Female participation in gaming is increasing. According to a Entertainment Software Association survey, women players in the United States increased from 40% in 2010 to 48% in 2014.[2][3] Today, despite the dominant perception that most gamers are men,[4] the ratio of female to male gamers is balanced, mirroring the population at large.[5]" You know that number has gone up in the past few years. All that states is women are more likely to take surveys than men are. Isn't something like 70+ percent of Shepards default male? That's not even including the custom options, and also add in the guys who play as girls, and I just don't see 50+ percent being actual women. Also this game is clearly designed with females, and other non straight white males in mind. And that's why it's in the state it's in right now. How so? |
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I'm not going to keep dragging this on, but your comparison is outright ridiculous. If the BW developers are that thin skinned (and maybe they are I don't know) they are definitely in the wrong industry and need to find a job where they have like zero interaction with another human being. Comparing them to victims of domestic violence though is the height of fallacy. 
