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Post by theflyingzamboni on May 13, 2017 3:30:42 GMT
Anything as long as our character is not the One True SaviorTM that everyone turns to with every problem and trusts implicitly for no reason whatsoever, and then all the characters treat anyone who calls that into question as if they're being unreasonable. Addison and Roderick from Inquisition are the only sane characters in these last couple games.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 13, 2017 3:36:09 GMT
Anything as long as our character is not the One True Savior TM that everyone turns to with every problem and trusts implicitly for no reason whatsoever, and then all the characters treat anyone who calls that into question as if they're being unreasonable. Addison and Roderick from Inquisition are the only sane characters in these last couple games. I kinda loved Chancellor Roderick's character. His death was the saddest of all.
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Post by colfoley on May 13, 2017 3:54:23 GMT
Alright this thread has got me considering the v issue in a serious light. Its hard to continue a character arc when a character has already arced.
So what was mea? Amongst other things it was the coming of age story for the Pathfinder...that is if they keep this saga about four. This leaves two possibilities for mea 2.
Either Ryder will continue a fairly straight character arc. Now they have gone from kid to hero with a ship the next step would be to go beyond. So mea2 will be about Ryder going from ship to in charge of an organization.
Or...since Ryder was built up in MEA mea 2 will be about tearing them down. Taking things from Ryde. Killing people off. Maybe leaving the AI in a far more desperate state.
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Post by decafhigh on May 13, 2017 12:40:37 GMT
The Initiative is likely to advance a lot in-between games, so I'd like a reasonable time-skip. Hard to say how much they'll advance, but Meridian will be responsible for a lot of production and likely do more than terraform planets. This story element is already similar to what the Mars ruins did for the Milky Way. The Kett don't have to arrive in full force, since the logistics behind something like that wouldn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure Meridian will just end up being the giant McGuffin for whatever we need. If it needs to be a galactic terraformer that is what it will be, if it needs to be a Star Forge it will do that to, if it needs to give us a method to travel outside Heleus it will start crappin' out Mass Relays, if it needs to defeat a Galactic Empire it'll Crucible the hell out of the Kett. It will basically be a giant space magic hand waving device.
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Post by qwib on May 13, 2017 12:59:50 GMT
Four things:
- RENEGADE DIALOGUES! I was fine with the design choice in the first game, because this is a hopeful new beginning. It fits the atmosphere, but I need Renegade Dialogues back in the Sequel. Of course not as Renegade, just overthink the Dialogue wheel and make some space for some badass dialogue options.
- Keep some of the old Squadmates in the Sequel and the LI. BW should evolve and innovate Squadmate interactions, the missions in Andromeda were a good first step. They are a lot of fun.
- Planets should be smaller and tighter, I don't need Open World at all.
- DON'T change the combat System. It's fantastic.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 13, 2017 13:04:26 GMT
Who cares ? Before /or if ever/ next ME game will be released, a lot of people from here will be quite old, maybe not even playing anymore, and ME fanbase + their expectations will change a lot. 2024 ? Wow. Half of you will have a children and 10k other things to do.
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Post by derrame on May 13, 2017 13:22:24 GMT
Not in the milky way, that is for sure it's ok if it's set in Anromeda or any other galaxy, i would like something simple, a war against a new species, looking foa llies, analyzing strategies, with help of all known species, wether to invade the enemies' homeworld or not, space ships battles Not open world No thousands of boring fetch quests
new colorful planets and new species of course,
no ai-synthetics problms no ancient vicilizations' technologies no ancient machines threat
not turning known or unknown species into monsters
writers of ME1 and 2 should write that game
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Post by stgreylv on May 13, 2017 14:08:14 GMT
Back to Andromeda, without openworld. Continue of the Pathfinder story, but it should be written by different writer, Sane writer, without childish jokes aka "I pissed that one off, mby coz I shot him in the face". Ryder should keep his/her light character. I want the next game based on the lore of original trilogy, not on politicized lore of Andromeda. World should be as it is, with oppression and minorities. And I want sexy romance possibilities, don't want to choose prettiest out of ugliest. That would be perfect game for me. But I'm dreaming for impossible.
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Post by Jacket on May 13, 2017 15:56:57 GMT
Please, no More Mass Effect games. Hasn't Andromeda shat on the ME legacy enough?
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 13, 2017 16:07:48 GMT
Please, no More Mass Effect games. Hasn't Andromeda shat on the ME legacy enough? You live in a miraculous and magical land where your opinion is just one among many. If you have nothing to add that's on topic, you can find many threads where people who don't like the game are saying so over and over and over again.
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Post by Jacket on May 13, 2017 16:17:44 GMT
Please, no More Mass Effect games. Hasn't Andromeda shat on the ME legacy enough? You live in a miraculous and magical land where your opinion is just one among many. If you have nothing to add that's on topic, you can find many threads where people who don't like the game are saying so over and over and over again. And many other people think the game is a flop lol. EA and Bioware will have to be very brave to touch Mass Effect again.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 13, 2017 16:23:15 GMT
Back to Andromeda, without openworld. Continue of the Pathfinder story, but it should be written by different writer, Sane writer, without childish jokes aka "I pissed that one off, mby coz I shot him in the face". Ryder should keep his/her light character. I want the next game based on the lore of original trilogy, not on politicized lore of Andromeda. World should be as it is, with oppression and minorities. And I want sexy romance possibilities, don't want to choose prettiest out of ugliest. That would be perfect game for me. But I'm dreaming for impossible. Getting rid of the open world sections would be a step back, no? Again, when MEA clearly has a ton of linear missions and never forces you to do the open world segments outside of main missions, how is this an issue? Don't do them. suggesting taking freedom and innovation away doesn't make sense
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 13, 2017 16:23:53 GMT
You live in a miraculous and magical land where your opinion is just one among many. If you have nothing to add that's on topic, you can find many threads where people who don't like the game are saying so over and over and over again. And many other people think the game is a flop lol. EA and Bioware will have to be very brave to touch Mass Effect again. So long as there's an interest from the fans and the devs have the dedication, I don't see why they can't make more. I don't compare the OT to andromeda so an awful trilogy in andromeda can't ruin the OT for me. They have no direct ties to each other, aren't sequels to each other, etc etc.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 13, 2017 16:24:03 GMT
You live in a miraculous and magical land where your opinion is just one among many. If you have nothing to add that's on topic, you can find many threads where people who don't like the game are saying so over and over and over again. And many other people think the game is a flop lol. EA and Bioware will have to be very brave to touch Mass Effect again. The topic of this thread if for people who want to talk about the next installment. Move along.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 13, 2017 16:27:09 GMT
You live in a miraculous and magical land where your opinion is just one among many. If you have nothing to add that's on topic, you can find many threads where people who don't like the game are saying so over and over and over again. And many other people think the game is a flop lol. EA and Bioware will have to be very brave to touch Mass Effect again. The people who think the game is a flop either haven't played or finished the game and therefore have no opinion, haven't played the game since the patches and jump on the bandwagon to only complain about facial animations, or complain about optional content that the game never forces you to do. In other words, the people complaining or think it is a flop only make themselves look fucking pretentious and stupid It's ok to give the game criticism, but the vast majority of internet scum make baseless comments like "its a flop" without any real concrete evidence
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Post by Sairys on May 13, 2017 16:32:13 GMT
Send a Spectre to Andromeda with 2 N7 sidekicks. His original mission is to check up on the initiative. But he soon finds out it cannot be a complete success unless they Genocide the Kett. Spectre drops Kett in the Heleus Cluster as he prepares to invade the Kett home while recruiting alien badAZZes along the way. I want a game where we are the aggressors doing the invading. No more of this reacting in self-defense crap. Make us the belligerents. I love this. Or even an N7/Spectre type that isn't belligerent, but let the player set the tone of either belligerent or James Bond suave! (Really, the conversation wheel in this game is horribly weak in diversity) Let the Ryders keep doing what they're doing "over there" in their job but send a new protagonist for us to play and into missions to unravel a story/mystery/ destroy the heart of the antagonists. By the way, I expect that's what's going to happen with DA next, that the Inquisitor is going to continue somewhere "over there" while we have a new protagonist being sent by the Inquisitor to the new area to stop that threat of the veil coming own (without giving spoilers to those who haven't played DA:I).
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Post by Debaser on May 13, 2017 16:37:23 GMT
Milky Way prequel to Shepard and the Reapers. Make the PC an alien Spectre (Asari/Salarian/Turian) go around doing morally gray Spectre stuff, no saving the galaxy or larger than life mission, just you, a gun, and your morals.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 13, 2017 16:39:38 GMT
I probably wouldn't bother with any ME game that forced you to play as one of the alien species (and that's putting aside my hatred for prequels). Oddworld this ain't.
But anyway, having the three species there would require a total of 5 vocal tracks, since asari would just be regular human female, salarians would be higher pitched male and female, and turians would have their processed voice male and female. I think it's safe to say a salarian PC is never going to happen, and probably shouldn't.
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Post by Debaser on May 13, 2017 16:51:51 GMT
I probably wouldn't bother with any ME game that forced you to play as one of the alien species (and that's putting aside my hatred for prequels). Oddworld this ain't. But anyway, having the three species there would require a total of 5 vocal tracks, since asari would just be regular human female, salarians would be higher pitched male and female, and turians would have their processed voice male and female. I think it's safe to say a salarian PC is never going to happen, and probably shouldn't. I would be fine with pre-determined characters like Sara and Scott and with one being an Asari and Turian (male), but I doubt that would fly well with most fans. Mass Effect's aliens really are just humans with weird bodies and faces, personally, I find the Qunari from Dragon Age more alien and interesting than any of Mass Effect's council/Andromeda races.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 13, 2017 17:10:26 GMT
I want a continuation of MEA done by BW with the same hero and a consistent squad with some new members. I'd love Ryder and the other members to mature and be more hardened by experience. I also would love a slightly less light-hearted and less cheesy atmosphere without necessarily become uber-dark and gritty. I want exploration to be a thing but slightly toned down in its scope. Smaller areas filled with quests. To what concern combat I want to control the power usage of my squadmates and tactical pause to be back. I want classes back too. More power slots. I would like Drew to be lead writer in the next game and no I don't want Kojima or JJ.Abrams or other people that have nothing to do with ME. Yeah that's what I thought would happen in that this being Ryder's first adventure they would be unsure of themselves an their capabilties but would learn and improve as time went on as they grew confident in what they were doing and realised they could handle this and they do have a little bit of their dad in them. Alec was an N7 and supposedly represented the best humanity had to offer so it's only natural that Scott and Sara would at least hope that some of that would rub off on them and give them the strength needed to accomplish their task. Yes in the early part of hte game you could see that they were unsure about being and doing this whole pathfinder thing and they definitely looked and felt like a very green type character and Cora was supposed to have been next in line if anything happened to Alec but you could definitely tell that Sara and Scott grew as the story went on as they got used to being in command. In a sense it did kind of feel a little like DAI when you get to Skyhold and get made Inquisitor and all that scene again in places.
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Post by Warrior DM on May 13, 2017 17:17:10 GMT
The Initiative is likely to advance a lot in-between games, so I'd like a reasonable time-skip. Hard to say how much they'll advance, but Meridian will be responsible for a lot of production and likely do more than terraform planets. This story element is already similar to what the Mars ruins did for the Milky Way. The Kett don't have to arrive in full force, since the logistics behind something like that wouldn't make a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure Meridian will just end up being the giant McGuffin for whatever we need. If it needs to be a galactic terraformer that is what it will be, if it needs to be a Star Forge it will do that to, if it needs to give us a method to travel outside Heleus it will start crappin' out Mass Relays, if it needs to defeat a Galactic Empire it'll Crucible the hell out of the Kett. It will basically be a giant space magic hand waving device. Well a plot device that moves the story forward isn't inherently a bad thing you know. A lot of what Meridian could do is up in the air, and might be limited by Ryder being one of the few people that can manipulate Remnant tech. Being a Pathfinder would also mean that Ryder can't just sit around all day studying Meridian. As long as these certain limitations are recognized within the narrative, then Meridian doesn't need to turn into an "I win" button.
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Post by shechinah on May 13, 2017 17:23:49 GMT
I would be fine with pre-determined characters like Sara and Scott and with one being an Asari and Turian (male), but I doubt that would fly well with most fans. Mass Effect's aliens really are just humans with weird bodies and faces, personally, I find the Qunari from Dragon Age more alien and interesting than any of Mass Effect's council/Andromeda races.I consider the races of Dragon Age to be better fleshed out than those of Mass Effect. I think a large part of that is that the races in the former feel much more well-developed in terms of things such as culture which is also experienced and explored more. It feels more... authentic, basically. Humanity have different kinds of cultures as do qunari, dwarves and elves. You don't really have that in Mass Effect as far as I can recall. The aliens in Mass Effect have contrasting cultures but it's not really shown including in how many members of the races, such as the asari and turian, act. It didn't help that it felt like, to me at least, that this kind of exploration took a backseat to action after the first game. This is perhaps going to sound harsher than I intend for it to but it feels like Dragon Age has more depth and thought to its races than Mass Effect has to most of its. Anyway, that's just my opinion.
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Post by paradigm on May 13, 2017 17:29:11 GMT
A very robust character creator. It should look and feel like a character creator that is significantly more advanced than the character creator from the ME trilogy just because of the difference in years. Not just a bunch of presets that no matter how much you change them all look like the same basic character.
A dialogue system with consequences. Say what you will about the Paragon/Renegade system but it really added replay value to the game.
And speaking of replay value, a LOT more branching decisions.
Better writing. Specifically, introduce plot points that will continue on to the next game, towards the end of the game. It just felt so wrong for the game to end without anyone talking about Garson's murder. However had that been introduce towards the end of the game it would have made more sense. Same thing with the benefactor.
More character variation. I know there's going to be cut and paste and I know eventually someone is going to notice, but when it's almost every single character of a given race (yeah, I'm looking at you Asari) and it stands out so much it's like a slap in the face, it's not right.
In other words, make a Mass Effect game.
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Post by Element Zero on May 14, 2017 4:52:09 GMT
projectpatdc, I agree that a more mature protagonist would be preferable. I like the Ryders, but there are definitely moments (particularly with Sara) in which I felt I was piloting a teenager. I don't know if I'd go as dark from the start as you suggest; but I wouldn't be opposed to playing such a game. That's sort of what ME2 tried, as you say. I would like to see a direct sequel to MEA. I like the Ryders enough to see them again; and the same goes for the crew. I would like enough of a timeline jump to account for crew changes, Ryders maturing, etc... Two years worked for Shepard. I think 2 to 4 years could work for the Ryders, depending upon how long the reprieve from kett exaltation is. Since it seems likely that I'm in the minority in really liking this game, I don't expect we will see the Ryders again. I'm not sure if we will see Andromeda again, to be honest. It's a shame, to me, given the good groundwork laid. I hope the game is not shelved, and all MEA's areas of strength lost.
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