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Post by projectpatdc on May 15, 2017 0:46:57 GMT
All aboard the meme train like a bunch of idiots who can't judge a product for itself after it's been patched. Never understood the idea that if games aren't perfect at launch, then they are forever trash. It's technology on a budget and deadline. Technology is never going to be perfect at launch yet so many early adopters today expect it to be. A game's worth should be reevaluated 6 months after launch considering how much work goes into it after the fact. This is the perfect reason to never pre-order again. EA, Enthusiasm Annihilated. Yup. I mean as some one who liked the game a lot, I still waited until this last patch to recommend the gamemy friends. The few people who got on board are enjoying it so far. I really hope we get a dlc like trespasser. I didn't play it but I heard that it enhanced the DAI experience tremendously |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 15, 2017 0:47:43 GMT
release free dlc's for MEa and then make a direct sequel, no boring open world exploration no fetch quests We're gonna have to come to terms with the fact that simple retrieval missions are kind of a fact of life when it comes to these sorts of games. Even the Gloriousness Of Gaming that we mere mortals refer to as The Witcher 3 had it. It's really more a matter of balancing other things that are more substantial throughout the game. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 15, 2017 1:07:28 GMT
This is the perfect reason to never pre-order again. EA, Enthusiasm Annihilated. Yup. I mean as some one who liked the game a lot, I still waited until this last patch to recommend the gamemy friends. The few people who got on board are enjoying it so far. I really hope we get a dlc like trespasser. I didn't play it but I heard that it enhanced the DAI experience tremensly I got it. I'm replaying Inquisition again for a new canon run. The game has run bug-free on the PC and that's saying a lot since it's on the old rig. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 1:28:59 GMT
The franchise is tainted and has lost it's luster. The fanbase is splintered and so are the products that the studio puts out. Just end Mass Effect and do a reboot in 4 years. We'll be better for it. It's hard to believe that any sell-job for MEA 2 is possible after the the meme train and launch. All aboard the meme train like a bunch of idiots who can't judge a product for itself after it's been patched. Never understood the idea that if games aren't perfect at launch, then they are forever trash. It's technology on a budget and deadline. Technology is never going to be perfect at launch yet so many early adopters today expect it to be. A game's worth should be reevaluated 6 months after launch considering how much work goes into it after the fact. No one should have to wait for a patch to begin with, period. Last time I checked, Assassin's Creed had to take a hiatus BECAUSE of Unity. No amount of patching will ever erase the fact that it damaged consumer confidence in the franchise. Andromeda and ME3 were no better in different aspects of their respective flaws. |
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Post by Rochrok on May 15, 2017 1:31:37 GMT
BW should accept that Andromeda is a failure and nuke it from orbit.
The Angarans are boring
The Helius Cluster has no rich history
The Kett are boring
The AI is boring
SAM is annoying
Ryder is lackluster
Companions are boring
And no mass relays ensures that we are stuck with this garbage for a very long time.
BW should consider this the same way Star Wars considers their Legends. A non canon story and leave it at that. Take us back to the Milky Way where there is an established lore and history, do a full reboot and recreate the ending to ME3 and press on.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 15, 2017 1:41:43 GMT
All aboard the meme train like a bunch of idiots who can't judge a product for itself after it's been patched. Never understood the idea that if games aren't perfect at launch, then they are forever trash. It's technology on a budget and deadline. Technology is never going to be perfect at launch yet so many early adopters today expect it to be. A game's worth should be reevaluated 6 months after launch considering how much work goes into it after the fact. No one should have to wait for a patch to begin with, period. Last time I checked, Assassin's Creed had to take a hiatus BECAUSE of Unity. No amount of patching will ever erase the fact that it damaged consumer confidence in the franchise. Andromeda and ME3 were no better in different aspects of their respective flaws. This is true as well. It's an issue with publisher that's overblown by the consumers. The ability to share footage was not as easy even 5 years ago. I think EA realizes they won't ever got away with the lack of polish and hopefully other devs will too. But gamers really do overreact. AC is interesting bc I actually really enjoyed unity unlike the majority similar to MEA. Syndicate fixed many flaws but also made some worse bc of community feedback. I'm hoping the same won't happen with MEA2 and I'm curious to see how the AC Egypt turns out this year |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 2:39:36 GMT
No one should have to wait for a patch to begin with, period. Last time I checked, Assassin's Creed had to take a hiatus BECAUSE of Unity. No amount of patching will ever erase the fact that it damaged consumer confidence in the franchise. Andromeda and ME3 were no better in different aspects of their respective flaws. This is true as well. It's an issue with publisher that's overblown by the consumers. The ability to share footage was not as easy even 5 years ago. I think EA realizes they won't ever got away with the lack of polish and hopefully other devs will too. But gamers really do overreact. AC is interesting bc I actually really enjoyed unity unlike the majority similar to MEA. Syndicate fixed many flaws but also made some worse bc of community feedback. I'm hoping the same won't happen with MEA2 and I'm curious to see how the AC Egypt turns out this year If a glitch makes the product borderline unplayable, then the gamers have the right to overreact. Some, like me, only buy two to three games a year. If the game in question is a bug-ridden mess, I'm less likely to give the responsible company my cash. |
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Post by projectpatdc on May 15, 2017 2:45:26 GMT
This is true as well. It's an issue with publisher that's overblown by the consumers. The ability to share footage was not as easy even 5 years ago. I think EA realizes they won't ever got away with the lack of polish and hopefully other devs will too. But gamers really do overreact. AC is interesting bc I actually really enjoyed unity unlike the majority similar to MEA. Syndicate fixed many flaws but also made some worse bc of community feedback. I'm hoping the same won't happen with MEA2 and I'm curious to see how the AC Egypt turns out this year If a glitch makes the product borderline unplayable, then the gamers have the right to overreact. Some, like me, only buy two to three games a year. If the game in question is a bug-ridden mess, I'm less likely to give the responsible company my cash. I don't disagree. I just still think MEA is a really good game. Better than many games out there for the same price. And if you enjoy space games in the slightest or love anything space related like I do, I would recommend giving the game a shot now that many things have been patched with more to come |
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Post by Furisco on May 15, 2017 3:14:51 GMT
Dress-up/dating sim. Give the people what they want. Don't forget the cutscene and narrow corridor shooter simulator. Cardboard characters and super serious writing like the OT is a plus! I've never seen someone sound so salty about previous games before. |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 15, 2017 3:20:49 GMT
Don't forget the cutscene and narrow corridor shooter simulator. Cardboard characters and super serious writing like the OT is a plus! I've never seen someone sound so salty about previous games before. Do you not remember the ME3 fallout? I'm pretty sure some of BioWare's staff are just now coming out of the vaults they built. There was enough salt to drive land-based mollusks into extinction. |
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Post by MattMan031 on May 15, 2017 3:37:02 GMT
As much as this game disappointing me I would like to see a sequel. There's really not much going back now and I hope this would be the kick in the head for Bioware to get their shit together. I just really wished they would just come out and say whether or not any story DLC will be released. Because them being quiet about Andromeda hasn't worked out well for them.
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Post by Element Zero on May 15, 2017 3:37:41 GMT
It amusing me that, with all the bitching, the "direct sequel" option is winning by a landslide in both of these threads. (Not sure why we have two of them.) Either the disappointed fans still want a direct sequel, or the less vocal majority actually likes MEA.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 15, 2017 3:42:52 GMT
It amusing me that, with all the bitching, the "direct sequel" option is winning by a landslide in both of these threads. (Not sure why we have two of them.) Either the disappointed fans still want a direct sequel, or the less vocal majority actually likes MEA. It's the same small group being melodramatic from thread to thread. They'll probably work it out of their system eventually. |
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Post by smilesja on May 15, 2017 3:47:30 GMT
It amusing me that, with all the bitching, the "direct sequel" option is winning by a landslide in both of these threads. (Not sure why we have two of them.) Either the disappointed fans still want a direct sequel, or the less vocal majority actually likes MEA. I would like to call them the silent majority.  |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 15, 2017 3:47:34 GMT
It amusing me that, with all the bitching, the "direct sequel" option is winning by a landslide in both of these threads. (Not sure why we have two of them.) Either the disappointed fans still want a direct sequel, or the less vocal majority actually likes MEA. I'm blaming the Russians, myself. |
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Post by Steelcan on May 15, 2017 3:50:51 GMT
It amusing me that, with all the bitching, the "direct sequel" option is winning by a landslide in both of these threads. (Not sure why we have two of them.) Either the disappointed fans still want a direct sequel, or the less vocal majority actually likes MEA. It's the same small group being melodramatic from thread to thread. They'll probably work it out of their system eventually. lets not act as if BioWare is deaf to the uproar of vocal parts of their fanbase, majority or not |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 15, 2017 3:53:17 GMT
It amusing me that, with all the bitching, the "direct sequel" option is winning by a landslide in both of these threads. (Not sure why we have two of them.) Either the disappointed fans still want a direct sequel, or the less vocal majority actually likes MEA. I'm blaming the Russians, myself.  |
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Post by Element Zero on May 15, 2017 3:53:28 GMT
It's the same small group being melodramatic from thread to thread. They'll probably work it out of their system eventually. lets not act as if BioWare is deaf to the uproar of vocal parts of their fanbase, majority or not Definitely not, unfortunately. Most of the worst decisions they've made were made while trying to accommodate vocal fans. In this case, though, Fen'Harel Faceman is referring to the BSN's vocal little clan of angry gamers. |
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Post by projectpatdc on May 15, 2017 3:55:49 GMT
Don't forget the cutscene and narrow corridor shooter simulator. Cardboard characters and super serious writing like the OT is a plus! I've never seen someone sound so salty about previous games before. I loved them when they released but as stand alone games, ME1 and ME2 are the only ones that shine. And MEA is not that bad with all the animations and bugs fixed compared to the old games. As a mass Effect game, it gets a lot right yet There's been more salt in this forum over MEA than any other gaming community So my salt is mostly there to match the forum's tone |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 15, 2017 3:56:11 GMT
It's the same small group being melodramatic from thread to thread. They'll probably work it out of their system eventually. lets not act as if BioWare is deaf to the uproar of vocal parts of their fanbase, majority or not Only when it suits them they are. They certainly didn't bow to vocal requests regarding the ME3 ending and pissed off a lot of people with the Refusal ending and the EC. I can think of many more examples. |
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Post by projectpatdc on May 15, 2017 3:57:59 GMT
lets not act as if BioWare is deaf to the uproar of vocal parts of their fanbase, majority or not Definitely not, unfortunately. Most of the worst decisions they've made were made while trying to accommodate vocal fans. In this case, though, Fen'Harel Faceman is referring to the BSN's vocal little clan of angry gamers. And our equally vocal small group of MEA fans. I love it when the indifferent guys and gals pop in once in a while after laughing at our never ending argument |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 15, 2017 4:04:09 GMT
lets not act as if BioWare is deaf to the uproar of vocal parts of their fanbase, majority or not Only when it suits them they are. They certainly didn't bow to vocal requests regarding the ME3 ending and pissed off a lot of people with the Refusal ending and the EC. I can think of many more examples. I never saw the Refusal ending as some kind of middle finger to fans, and I'm guessing that maybe the word "Extended" in Extended Cut was interchangeable with Alternate Ending to a lot of folks. |
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Post by Daft Arbiter on May 15, 2017 4:05:06 GMT
It amusing me that, with all the bitching, the "direct sequel" option is winning by a landslide in both of these threads. (Not sure why we have two of them.) Either the disappointed fans still want a direct sequel, or the less vocal majority actually likes MEA. It's the same small group being melodramatic from thread to thread. They'll probably work it out of their system eventually. I want ME3 to get a direct sequel. But I'm not being melodramatic. I just really liked the characters from that game and feel as though it didn't have a proper ending. |
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Post by Element Zero on May 15, 2017 4:06:12 GMT
Definitely not, unfortunately. Most of the worst decisions they've made were made while trying to accommodate vocal fans. In this case, though, Fen'Harel Faceman is referring to the BSN's vocal little clan of angry gamers. And our equally vocal small group of MEA fans. I love it when the indifferent guys and gals pop in once in a while after laughing at our never ending argument You know that I really like this game. It shouldn't have been released in such a technically unfinished state; but it's a damn good game. I don't get drawn into internet arguments because they bore me. I do want to discuss MEA, but not with pissed off people that only want to discuss how pissed they are. Thus, I leave them to their threads, and hope they'll respect the more positive threads by avoiding them or holding the salt. |
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Post by Warrick on May 15, 2017 4:06:36 GMT
Bioware should look at Heir to the Empire. It revitalized a universe because it had a new spin and a good new perspective.
You can't make a game with another ancient, advanced, mysterious technology; a normal organic race; and an "ascended" race that "ascends" -or "exalts"- normal races; and humans as newcomers to the galaxy, and expect us to be excited about it.
Going to another galaxy still feels to me like running from the endings and a bit of a franchise-milking cop out. If EA isn't willing to own the endings, they should at least try to come up with a new concept. Instead they pulled a Force Awakens and did ME1 again only with less charismatic characters.
In short, make MEA2 but get rid of Ryder. Offer a new perspective.
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