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Post by gplayer on May 14, 2017 6:53:15 GMT
I would pay for a remastered OT. I would also pay for a complete re-write of the last 15 minutes of ME3. To be more specific, keep gameplay but new textures all around, new voice acting for male shep (all other voice actors are fiine) and remove catalyst boy from the ending, replace with some avatar for Harbinger that Shep can berate before pulling the trigger (kind of like Rannoch) I don't think either of those things are in BioWare's best interests for I just can't see them making it so it wouldn't be drowned out by negativity again. I can see multiple groups that have the completely opposite opinions about what should and should not be done to each game that regardless of what happens it just wouldn't be good enough. I started by saying "I would pay for...". The only relevant opinion in a statement that starts with that is mine. I know it probably won't quite happen that way, but I also know that the Hollywood craze with redo's and reboots (they are re-doing Prison Break!) will catch up with the gaming industry. In my *opinion* we will see an OT remaster or redo in our future. As for saying that the ME3 ending is a matter of divided opinion, I do not believe that. I think people have different ideas on what the ending should have been but all of them are completely different from what it was. The actual few who were satisfied are people I dismiss as Bioware apologists and industry insiders who want to preserve access to EA (e.g. the people who called players entitled). The fact that Bioware removed its forums is a direct consequence of the volume of discontent they created with that ending. Otherwise, we would be having this discussion on BW's forums. Its all academic though with the news that Bioware Montreal is being downsized (moved to another studio) and that ME development is on hiatus. |
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Post by alanc9 on May 14, 2017 6:57:44 GMT
Heh. Wow. Ummmm, okay. If I have to explain it to you, the meaning is prolly lost, but I'll give it a try. Focus tests are with people that have a desired interest in the product that you're selling. Alpha (and summarily beta) tests are for finding bugs in game and the problems with the game in general. No matter what they are. In other words, say you're a developer. Say that you're gonna create a third person shooter. Say you invite several people to alpha test your game, only to find find that it would better work as a 2D side scrolling game. What are you gonna do? Ignore all of those alpha testers who said it would work better as a 2D side scroller, or all of those focus tests who think that you should keep it as a third person shooter? Which are you gonna ignore? Experience or mass intelligence? That's a usage of "focus test" I've never heard before. When I've been in focus groups, we were selected primarily by demographics; they didn't even tell us what the products were before the panel met, beyond a basic category like "food" or "alcoholic beverage," so we couldn't possibly be selected for interest in the particular product. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 6:59:08 GMT
From another thread: link*snip image* linkNo. What we saw prior to 1.05 was unpolished hubris. I clearly saw the difference after 1.05. They just didn't have enough variety. That's the real crime. It's not their artistry went down, they again just didn't provide enough variety, like the music. It wasn't polished. There is great talent untapped, sitting at desks, waiting for a lead and a developer to take their creativity onto the Frostbite canvas. I see the good and the potential. They can't hang on their old reputation anymore. It's now on Bioware 2.0. They're veterans now with a 6-7 game rating. They laid an excellent foundation. I'm excited for the DLC. It's going to have bugs. It's Frostbite, yo. However, I am willing to bet they will tie up as many loose ends. It will help the game stand on its own two feet. With that being said, I still got a chuckle from the above post. It can happen if the trend continues. That's one way to look at it, and you may turn out to be right. It looks to me that the studio got hit with cost-cutting. I don't care for Mac Walter's style or vision. So...I'm not as optimistic about future ME titles appealing to me as you are. |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 14, 2017 7:01:18 GMT
No. What we saw prior to 1.05 was unpolished hubris. I clearly saw the difference after 1.05. They just didn't have enough variety. That's the real crime. It's not their artistry went down, they again just didn't provide enough variety, like the music. It wasn't polished. There is great talent untapped, sitting at desks, waiting for a lead and a developer to take their creativity onto the Frostbite canvas. I see the good and the potential. They can't hang on their old reputation anymore. It's now on Bioware 2.0. They're veterans now with a 6-7 game rating. They laid an excellent foundation. I'm excited for the DLC. It's going to have bugs. It's Frostbite, yo. However, I am willing to bet they will tie up as many loose ends. It will help the game stand on its own two feet. With that being said, I still got a chuckle from the above post. It can happen if the trend continues. That's one way to look at it, and you may turn out to be right. It looks to me that the studio got hit with cost-cutting. I don't care for Mac Walter's style or vision. So...I'm not as optimistic about future ME titles appealing to me as you are. Then this would be a good time to say let's hope you're wrong and I'm right. I WANT MY FIX! NOW! I'm playing Mass Effect 1 over again. I'm that hard up. |
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Post by xetykins on May 14, 2017 7:18:53 GMT
With the writing that went into Andromeda? No, I think I'd like to leave Shepard where she is, thank you.
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Post by smilesja on May 14, 2017 7:59:53 GMT
With the writing that went into Andromeda? No, I think I'd like to leave Shepard where she is, thank you. With the writing in andromeda it could further enhance Shepard |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 14, 2017 8:06:51 GMT
With the writing that went into Andromeda? No, I think I'd like to leave Shepard where she is, thank you. With the writing in andromeda it could further enhance Shepard I agree. With polishing. This is the big leagues. There was great potential there in Andromeda and I saw it, but not enough consistency. It got very relaxed to the point it felt sitcom-ish. That's not Bioware. They're the masters of storytelling on this medium, but they can't stay on top by not polishing it. It's a disservice to the author, the voice actor, the director and the lead. It cheapens the work that went into it. However, I agree with you. The writing overall is good. It already has a lot of plotholes, but the DLC will fill them. I would entrust this team to write a follow up to Shepard only after I see more in the DLC. So far, it's looking suspect. |
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Post by helios969 on May 14, 2017 8:59:05 GMT
I wouldn't be opposed to an entire reboot of Shepard's story (with the promise from Bioware not to resolve the story in the same silly way,) but a continuation of his/her story, no. I mean what's it gonna be about without the Reaper threat? Shepard's Super Spectre Detective Agency.  |
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 14, 2017 9:02:21 GMT
How about they move on with the times and give us what we've wanted for years? Like I don't know, multiple playable species. I'm tired of humans, I want to play a krogan or asari. But we can't have that can we? It creates too big of a writing challenge for Bioware and we know they much rather just make fetch quests. Now even the fandom is configured into thinking of the PC as human, screw taking risks, right guys? Lets just copy ME2 for MEA2, go 0 to 100.  I immediately assumed we were going to have a choice of being something else for Andromeda. Salarian, Asari, Krogan, maybe introduce the Volus as a playable character. I thought this would be a fresh of air. It would've added tons of replay ability. Each race having their own sets of advantages and disadvantages, it would've given you a choice to see things from that species perspective. Nope. The Ryder twins and Daddy nepotism issues. Sigh. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 9:21:33 GMT
Back to shepherd as a reaper human badass !
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Post by vonuber on May 14, 2017 10:06:06 GMT
I mean what's it gonna be about without the Reaper threat? Shepard's Super Spectre Detective Agency. That would be awesome. |
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Post by Laughing_Crow on May 14, 2017 10:15:11 GMT
While I enjoyed the ME trilogy immensely and played it a lot - NO - that part of the series is in the long past. Time has moved on.
Would you go back and use 2007 computer technology?
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 10:24:23 GMT
No just no. Bringing Shepard back would be like trying to milk a dead cow at this point
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Post by helios969 on May 14, 2017 10:44:47 GMT
I mean what's it gonna be about without the Reaper threat? Shepard's Super Spectre Detective Agency. That would be awesome. We'll rename the Normandy and paint it psychedelic colors...and in order to convince James to do something dangerous we'll have to bribe him with slices of double pepperoni pizza: Would you do it for a Vega-snack? Ugh...forget I said anything! |
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Post by LogicGunn on May 14, 2017 10:50:53 GMT
Of course I would play it. But I think it would be a mistake.
Shep saved the Milky Way. They can't really top that, and she's earned her retirement. Even a great story that somehow recognised the various choices in the Trilogy and the endings...it would be difficult to pull off.
I'd rather expand and explore Andromeda and Ryder.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 14, 2017 10:52:21 GMT
No. I want to stick with Ryder. I love Shepard. But after ME3... it's time to let go. Agreed I'd rather Ryder be given their chance. Shep has had their time and as good as they were all things must eventually come to an end even Shepard. |
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Post by djbare on May 14, 2017 11:03:17 GMT
I miss Shepard, actually not, playing the trilogy again while I wait for ME:A to be cleaned up some more, and yes, I'd like him/her back, but I cannot ever see that happening, the series has already moved on, by over 600 years.
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Post by Reorte on May 14, 2017 11:04:00 GMT
Of course I would play it. But I think it would be a mistake. Shep saved the Milky Way. They can't really top that, and she's earned her retirement. Even a great story that somehow recognised the various choices in the Trilogy and the endings...it would be difficult to pull off. I'd rather expand and explore Andromeda and Ryder. Pretty much ditto on that. Shepard's story has been told, he's earned a break, although maybe he'd find trying to build a house on Rannoch harder than defeating the Reapers. I'd like the story to go back to the Milky Way, not necessarily with Shepard, assuming the plot problems can be sorted out - Andromeda felt too much like an implausible journey even with Mass Effect space magic, but since we're here I'd be perfectly happy to keep exploring Andromeda. Waving aside how we got here there's nothing wrong with the concept or even fundamentally with the characters. In any case I rather liked MEA. |
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Post by ToSch on May 14, 2017 11:10:22 GMT
Shepard's story is done. He/She either died 600 years ago, or they're busy being the new Reaper AntiVirus of the Milky Way.
The Commanders have done their duty. Let them rest in peace and give the Andromeda galaxy a chance.
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Post by witchcocktor on May 14, 2017 11:14:44 GMT
Nostalgia is really detrimental to the gaming community sometimes. I think it's good to look back and realize what works and what doesn't, but let's leave it at that.
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Post by unwanted on May 14, 2017 11:50:30 GMT
Always wondered why game developers seem to emulate all the crap overnight games that saturate the market, but the classics that people love and still play many years after release, never get, or very rarely get, emulated. Maybe making a game that people might love would mean the dev's might actually have to lean to program.
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Post by unwanted on May 14, 2017 11:54:51 GMT
If a genie popped up and granted me a wish, it would be to create a real life Shep, Biowares Shep. Then I would tell and show her what Bioware have done with her legacy.
Later when she was good and pissed I would give her the taxi fare to Bioware's office.
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Post by Conquer Your Dreams on May 14, 2017 12:05:54 GMT
I love Shep with all my heart, but HE'S/SHE'S dead.
Over, finish, finito, goodbye.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 14, 2017 13:00:04 GMT
1.theyve already fucked up shepards story
2. Mass effect is bigger than one protagonist, I wish people could think the same with halo but I guess everyone likes to milk 117 into oblivion
3. There is no redeeming ME3 ending
4. Don't screw up cannon/lore any further limecAndrkmeda has.
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Post by Sanunes on May 14, 2017 15:04:08 GMT
Nostalgia is really detrimental to the gaming community sometimes. I think it's good to look back and realize what works and what doesn't, but let's leave it at that. I think it is more then sometimes. I think nostalgia was one of the leading factors to what happened with Andromeda since this BioWare team wanted to give people what they were saying they enjoyed about the first trilogy and it backfired because it was too much work to complete properly. |
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