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Post by mordivier on May 14, 2017 19:50:21 GMT
Primary change noted is not just facial animation changes, but the changes to Sarah Ryder.
Remember on how Sarah Ryder was criticisized as being hit with "ugly stick" from several gaming news sources and multiple videos on youtube? Well, apparently, Bioware(before the whole kotaku thing about ME being put on hiatus happened) was "beautifying" Sarah Ryder to be more attractive.
1. Lipstick shade was added or just made the lips pinker. 2. Complexion was changed. Its actually a subtle change that makes a big difference. In 7:42 the lighting actually makes the face look a bit different. Better overall.
The changes makes me laugh. Take that Sarkeesian!
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Post by Furisco on May 14, 2017 20:17:46 GMT
I was so ready to read this thread and make a sarcastic comment about how bad you should feel for criticizing Bioware for their fuck ups with the game and tell you how perfect Andromeda is...
But then i read this fucking shit
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Post by maximusarael020 on May 14, 2017 20:31:33 GMT
I mean, assuredly criticize where there are actually issues. Animations were sub-par, CC is lacking, etc. There are actually issues with the game, and the community calmly being like "Hey, Bioware. Animations kinda suck." That's exactly what you need to do to make video games better. Crying "SJW's made Sara Ryder ugly!!" and flooding metacritic with 0's because there's no Shep is NOT the right way to do anything.
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Post by smilesja on May 14, 2017 21:01:46 GMT
I was so ready to read this thread and make a sarcastic comment about how bad you should feel for criticizing Bioware for their fuck ups with the game and tell you how perfect the game is... But then i read this fucking shit Detractors are no different after all.
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Post by alanc9 on May 14, 2017 21:48:41 GMT
Look, guys, it's not like any of us weren't aware that our community is chock-full of douchebags.
But if you figure Sara looks better now, who cares about the process? Let's just take the win and move on.
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Post by maximusarael020 on May 14, 2017 21:56:37 GMT
Look, guys, it's not like any of us weren't aware that our community is chock-full of douchebags. But if you figure Sara looks better now, who cares about the process? Let's just take the win and move on. Ends justify the means?
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Post by colfoley on May 14, 2017 22:15:18 GMT
To chime in its not just Sara...my custom bro looks a lot better since the patch.
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Post by ProbeAway on May 14, 2017 22:19:18 GMT
Lol.
Anti-SJWs: Sara so ugly! Autism! Fuck SJWs! Fuck feminazis! Fuck Sarkeesian! Rabble rabble rabble!
Bioware: *makes minor adjustments to lip colour and skin tone*
Anti-SJWs: victory is ours! #spacebabes4lyfe
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Post by projectpatdc on May 14, 2017 22:23:45 GMT
Lol. Anti-SJWs: Sara so ugly! Autism! Fuck SJWs! Fuck feminazis! Fuck Sarkeesian! Rabble rabble rabble! Bioware: *makes minor adjustments to lip colour and skin tone* Anti-SJWs: victory is ours! #spacebabes4lyfe I just want to see all these people's wives and ask them how in the hell they got them.
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 14, 2017 22:27:02 GMT
I mean, assuredly criticize where there are actually issues. Animations were sub-par, CC is lacking, etc. There are actually issues with the game, and the community calmly being like "Hey, Bioware. Animations kinda suck." That's exactly what you need to do to make video games better. Crying "SJW's made Sara Ryder ugly!!" and flooding metacritic with 0's because there's no Shep is NOT the right way to do anything. That's assuming they were listening. No feedback. Just excuses. Period.
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Post by colfoley on May 14, 2017 22:32:25 GMT
Honestly i really do not know what they did but Ryder just plain looks more human. That in itself is a victory. Not calling any one uglier then another Just more natural.
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Post by maximusarael020 on May 14, 2017 22:33:08 GMT
I mean, assuredly criticize where there are actually issues. Animations were sub-par, CC is lacking, etc. There are actually issues with the game, and the community calmly being like "Hey, Bioware. Animations kinda suck." That's exactly what you need to do to make video games better. Crying "SJW's made Sara Ryder ugly!!" and flooding metacritic with 0's because there's no Shep is NOT the right way to do anything. That's assuming they were listening. No feedback. Just excuses. Period. Huh?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 14, 2017 22:35:00 GMT
Look, guys, it's not like any of us weren't aware that our community is chock-full of douchebags. Funny thing is, none of us agree completely about who the douchebags are. Either we're all douches, or we're all people. I guess the former.
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Post by linksocarina on May 14, 2017 22:36:19 GMT
Look, guys, it's not like any of us weren't aware that our community is chock-full of douchebags. Funny thing is, none of us agree completely about who the douchebags are. Either we're all douches, or we're all people. I guess the former. id say were people first. Besides, douchebag is in the eye of the beholder, it's subjective and opinionated. But not all opinions are created equal...
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Post by aglomeracja on May 14, 2017 22:40:02 GMT
Those animatians are still really off...
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 14, 2017 22:40:07 GMT
Funny thing is, none of us agree completely about who the douchebags are. Either we're all douches, or we're all people. I guess the former. id say were people first. Besides, douchebag is in the eye of the beholder, it's subjective and opinionated. But not all opinions are created equal... agreed, until the last sentence. In principal I agree. However, how do we go about making that accounting? Especially on an international forum where it isn't always obvious who is using their first language to express a subtle or nuanced position. I actually feel like most of us are real human beings, and then there are a few Yes Men, and a few pure haters. People think of me as a pure hater, and have it so wrong I can't even find a way to argue with them.
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Post by llandwynwyn on May 14, 2017 23:27:35 GMT
Too little, too late for most people. Damage is done.
Good on BioWare for attempting to fix parts of the game, though.
On beautifying her...It doesn't fix my personal problem with Sara, her forever smile. I think they mocapped her like that, thus can't be fixed unless they redo her model.
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Post by mordingrimes on May 14, 2017 23:49:44 GMT
Too little too late, the game should never have been released in the condition it was and they are only doing it now because of the backlash. In the end these are all very minor fixes that don't really change that much, still looks bad.
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Post by derrame on May 15, 2017 0:28:49 GMT
is a good improvement, but not enough and Peebee needs this improvement too
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Post by colfoley on May 15, 2017 0:39:43 GMT
Too little too late, the game should never have been released in the condition it was and they are only doing it now because of the backlash. In the end these are all very minor fixes that don't really change that much, still looks bad. the animations may not have been Witcher 3 level but then I'd prefer the story and character writing of Andromeda. And the animations weren't bad.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 15, 2017 1:06:51 GMT
is a good improvement, but not enough and Peebee needs this improvement too I feel like peebee haunts and terrorizes your dreams
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Post by zipzap2000 on May 15, 2017 1:34:26 GMT
Lol. Anti-SJWs: Sara so ugly! Autism! Fuck SJWs! Fuck feminazis! Fuck Sarkeesian! Rabble rabble rabble! Bioware: *makes minor adjustments to lip colour and skin tone* Anti-SJWs: victory is ours! #spacebabes4lyfe I just want to see all these people's wives and ask them how in the hell they got them. I cant speak for everyone else but the real world substitute for Ryncol helps.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 15, 2017 1:36:14 GMT
I just want to see all these people's wives and ask them how in the hell they got them. I cant speak for everyone else but the real world substitute for Ryncol helps. Apparently the lighting both in game and real life helps too
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Post by Furisco on May 15, 2017 1:36:40 GMT
is a good improvement, but not enough and Peebee needs this improvement too I feel like peebee haunts and terrorizes your dreams I really have a hard time trying to sleep after i heard the line "stop ship, kill jerk" for the first time.
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Post by projectpatdc on May 15, 2017 1:44:18 GMT
I feel like peebee haunts and terrorizes your dreams I really have a hard time trying to sleep after i heard the line "stop ship, kill jerk" for the first time. Meh, peebee acts like most girls in their early 20s. It's doesn't bother me too much. Durrame is just consistent in his hatred of peebee
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