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Post by kino on May 15, 2017 18:43:52 GMT
I can totally back up the statement about some older people who act like PB. Who have, actually, acted like PB for the last 30 years or so. As for the original post...eh, I'd sigh at the stupidity but it's not worth the energy. And I'd sigh too, if it were worth the energy to. Or even to explain how you're reading things I never said. But whatever. Took me a moment to figure out what the hell you were talking about, but I get it. I'm not so much responding to you as the other poster, but go ahead and feel put upon.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on May 15, 2017 18:45:10 GMT
*too little too late* lmao what are you traumatized or something? If you're done with MEA for now, wait for the DLC then play the whole game again like any rational person would. You own the game after all. First impression = everything to most people. So it indeed can be "to little to late" for some. Only if one continues to interact with the object. If you return in a few months time, you'll form a new "first" impression. That's why things look and feel different after experiencing them again after a long hiatus.
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Post by R'Shara on May 15, 2017 18:51:04 GMT
And I'd sigh too, if it were worth the energy to. Or even to explain how you're reading things I never said. But whatever. Took me a moment to figure out what the hell you were talking about, but I get it. I'm not so much responding to you as the other poster, but go ahead and feel put upon. Quote system could use some work, yeah.
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Post by mofojokers on May 15, 2017 18:57:43 GMT
Wonder if she has seen 2B? Bet her head would explode! I was pretty shocked with how erm tonned down and mild (you get the idea) the women are in MEA. Now as a male gamer i love to play a sexy male beast. I could almost guarantee that women gamers want sexy females. I highly doubt female gamers want to look erm bland while playing. I remember seeing the actors for the Ryders and the male was pretty spot on. But the female one looked like they hit it with an ugly stick then for laughs threw it off the cliff.😂
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Post by R'Shara on May 15, 2017 19:04:03 GMT
Wonder if she has seen 2B? Bet her head would explode! I was pretty shocked with how erm tonned down and mild (you get the idea) the women are in MEA. Now as a male gamer i love to play a sexy male beast. I could almost guarantee that women gamers want sexy females. I highly doubt female gamers want to look erm bland while playing. I remember seeing the actors for the Ryders and the male was pretty spot on. But the female one looked like they hit it with an ugly stick then for laughs threw it off the cliff.😂 I and the female gamers I know prefer to be able to make pretty characters too. It's a wish fulfillment thing, probably I swear that femRyder somehow got reverted to an earlier version. Considering some of the other bugs, this wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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Post by ShadowAngel on May 15, 2017 20:50:10 GMT
First impression = everything to most people. So it indeed can be "to little to late" for some. Only if one continues to interact with the object. If you return in a few months time, you'll form a new "first" impression. That's why things look and feel different after experiencing them again after a long hiatus. Why should one wait months or a year before a game is in a state that it should've been at launch? Why should one then invest 60$ off the bat and wait for a finished product? People don't pay to beta test games, they do it expecting a good product from the start. Secondly, why would anything change if the first impression was shit? What's to say that doesn't just continue on in patches and DLC? It's happened to games before. even if a game does get better over time, it's first impression still sticks with it. Reviews don't just change due to developer laziness nor would mine(I have no reason to excuse what they initially tried to give me). Why should I wait for a finished product when there are other games out there competing for my time? As I said, first impression means everything, especially when that's where most sales occur, where reviews give out their impressions, where people decide whether or not to buy based off reviews and how it's received. There's no reason why someone should have to wait for a game to get better lol. Anything post launch is supposed to enhance the experience, not fix what was botched up.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 21:05:49 GMT
I was pretty shocked with how erm tonned down and mild (you get the idea) the women are in MEA. Now as a male gamer i love to play a sexy male beast. I could almost guarantee that women gamers want sexy females. Individuals do have different tastes and preferences. I prefer media characters who aren't sexualized. Well, aren't you special? I think we've just hit a new low, berating real life VAs not for their performance, but their appearance.
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Post by R'Shara on May 15, 2017 21:09:28 GMT
Well, aren't you special? I think we've just hit a new low, berating real life VAs not for their performance, but their appearance. I'm pretty sure they meant that the femRyder looked like that, not the VA or model for her.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 21:24:08 GMT
Well, aren't you special? I think we've just hit a new low, berating real life VAs not for their performance, but their appearance. I'm pretty sure they meant that the femRyder looked like that, not the VA or model for her. I suppose it's possible that he meant face model rather than actor. Even so, female appearance always seems to be much more heavily scrutinized than that of males. I think Sara looks great, and always has resembled her face model just as much as Scott does his.
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Post by mofojokers on May 15, 2017 21:24:58 GMT
I was pretty shocked with how erm tonned down and mild (you get the idea) the women are in MEA. Now as a male gamer i love to play a sexy male beast. I could almost guarantee that women gamers want sexy females. Individuals do have different tastes and preferences. I prefer media characters who aren't sexualized. Well, aren't you special? I think we've just hit a new low, berating real life VAs not for their performance, but their appearance. O god no the model for Sera is a true beauty buddy. But unlike her counter part she and her in game look are leagues apart almost as if on purpose. Also what do you consider a media character?.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 21:41:53 GMT
Individuals do have different tastes and preferences. I prefer media characters who aren't sexualized. Well, aren't you special? I think we've just hit a new low, berating real life VAs not for their performance, but their appearance. O god no the model for Sera is a true beauty buddy. But unlike her counter part she and her in game look are leagues apart almost as if on purpose. Well - you said actor instead of model, so I thought you were berating Fryda Wolff. I'm glad you clarified. But I disagree about the in-game resemblance to the model. The images of models you see always feature perfect make-up, lighting, setting, facial expression, etc. and are heavily photoshopped. The actual people in those images look quite different IRL. Catch anyone in bad lighting or mid-expression, and they'll look odd. Well, since we're talking about looks, it would be visual media - film, TV, ads, games, etc.
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Post by mofojokers on May 15, 2017 21:50:53 GMT
O god no the model for Sera is a true beauty buddy. But unlike her counter part she and her in game look are leagues apart almost as if on purpose. Also what do you consider a media character?. Well - you said actor instead of model, so I thought you were berating Fryda Wolff. I'm glad you clarified. But I disagree about the in-game resemblance to the model. The images of models you see always feature perfect make-up, lighting, setting, facial expression, etc. and are heavily photoshopped. The actual people in those images look quite different IRL. Catch anyone in bad lighting or mid-expression, and they'll look odd. Definitely but considering how close male Ryder is to his model compared to hers it was a shame. Mind you i am a huge fan of sexy looking females in game (like 2B) because after all .....i am male.😂
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 21:57:18 GMT
Well - you said actor instead of model, so I thought you were berating Fryda Wolff. I'm glad you clarified. But I disagree about the in-game resemblance to the model. The images of models you see always feature perfect make-up, lighting, setting, facial expression, etc. and are heavily photoshopped. The actual people in those images look quite different IRL. Catch anyone in bad lighting or mid-expression, and they'll look odd. Definitely but considering how close male Ryder is to his model compared to hers it was a shame. Again - I disagree. I think both of them resemble their models to roughly the same degree. People do scrutinize women's looks much more than men's. I appreciate sexy, but not sexualized - and certainly not to the point where the world's lore is broken and/or verisimilitude lost. There is a difference. People have different tastes, after all.
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Post by Reorte on May 15, 2017 22:31:12 GMT
I appreciate sexy, but not sexualized - and certainly not to the point where the world's lore is broken and/or verisimilitude lost. There is a difference. People have different tastes, after all. I'm male and like a good looking woman as much as any man, and I completely agree with that. Some female game characters just make me facepalm. There's attractive, then there's just ridiculous.
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Post by beholderess on May 15, 2017 22:38:47 GMT
I liked Sara much, much, much better before the patch. That lipstick - ugh. She was perfectly fine, looking innocent and cute
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Post by Cyan_Griffonclaw on May 15, 2017 22:40:52 GMT
Definitely but considering how close male Ryder is to his model compared to hers it was a shame. Again - I disagree. I think both of them resemble their models to roughly the same degree. People do scrutinize women's looks much more than men's. I appreciate sexy, but not sexualized - and certainly not to the point where the world's lore is broken and/or verisimilitude lost. There is a difference. People have different tastes, after all. Pasquale, I get you. Thank you.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on May 16, 2017 0:04:15 GMT
Oh boo hoo about these offended posters who go "Pssh" over the "SJW" label.
I'm not that stuck up about the whole Sara Ryder "ugly stick" issue as most seem to be but it's clear as day nonetheless that the reason she looks un-ideal is because of SJW-ism, aka "We didn't want to promote a man's sexually ideal look of a woman. We want to empower the un-empowered kinds of women". Why the hell would she look like this dorkly schlubby hispanic otherwise? I think there's also a distinction. They wanted to make a slightly less-than-ideal female protagonist default but they screwed up because they are already so-so at 3D sculpting and their cyberscan tech is only so accurate, so their less-than-ideal face came out as even lesser than less-ideal making it look completely ugly so even other very white-knight kinds of people go "Ugh, she is UGLY!" on reaction-streams.
I don't fault the "SJWs" here, i'm just tired of people making it sound like SJW is some kind of made-up concept that doesn't exist because it totally does. In my head I keep thinking that others assume that when people say "SJW" they mean something like "Those snide people who are in it to ruin it for us!", but what I really think when I say "SJW" or when others (some others!) say "SJW" is "the kinds of people who try too hard to do things for social equality; who compromise too much between artistic intent vs identity politics". They're cucks. that's also a thing. Not made up. It's not a boogeyman. "Boogeyman" is a word people use to frame "SJW" as a term in a negative light implying that we're seeing ghosts and that the stereotype does not exist. Well, it does. It's just a rather blunt thing to say "SJW" and you're aiming so wide that you'll probably throw a lot of innocent into the same saliva.
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Post by clips7 on May 16, 2017 4:18:34 GMT
Wonder if she has seen 2B? Bet her head would explode! Y'know...i thought EDI was the sexy Fembot around these parts....2B is puttin' that a$$ to shame....
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Post by Melcara on May 16, 2017 6:28:57 GMT
I'm pretty sure they meant that the femRyder looked like that, not the VA or model for her. I suppose it's possible that he meant face model rather than actor. Even so, female appearance always seems to be much more heavily scrutinized than that of males. I think Sara looks great, and always has resembled her face model just as much as Scott does his. Lol.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on May 16, 2017 14:43:42 GMT
Only if one continues to interact with the object. If you return in a few months time, you'll form a new "first" impression. That's why things look and feel different after experiencing them again after a long hiatus. Why should one wait months or a year before a game is in a state that it should've been at launch? Why should one then invest 60$ off the bat and wait for a finished product? People don't pay to beta test games, they do it expecting a good product from the start. Secondly, why would anything change if the first impression was shit? What's to say that doesn't just continue on in patches and DLC? It's happened to games before. even if a game does get better over time, it's first impression still sticks with it. Reviews don't just change due to developer laziness nor would mine(I have no reason to excuse what they initially tried to give me). Why should I wait for a finished product when there are other games out there competing for my time? As I said, first impression means everything, especially when that's where most sales occur, where reviews give out their impressions, where people decide whether or not to buy based off reviews and how it's received. There's no reason why someone should have to wait for a game to get better lol. Anything post launch is supposed to enhance the experience, not fix what was botched up. Er literally no game has ever released in a state that it should be at launch. Unfortunately, people do pay to beta test games because it's quite impossible to find every single bug in software of this scope in a decent time frame. The point is to give some leeway for initial bugs, rather than expecting a perfect experience on round 1. Regardless, the bugs that remained were not gamebreaking, and a lot of the complaints were based on issues like animations and story that have nothing to do with beta testing. Stop throwing the money deal. The game is fine and perfectly playable. It just had some issues. You still own it til the end of time. It's only been 2 months and most of the complaints have been addressed. Feel free to sell the game. If your first impression was truly shit, then I'm sorry for you and your taste. MEA is a good game overall. It was just a hot mess at times. It's quite fucking hilarious how so many people look fondly at games like DAO and ME1 which had and still have hilarious bugs that are only fixed through custom content. Honestly. Just move on with your lives if you truly don't like the game anymore. Stop shitting on BioWare for at least trying to make it right for those who do want to give it another go.
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Post by hobocommand3r on May 16, 2017 14:57:37 GMT
Complaining has worked for the mp balancing as well.
As for the SP i think we need more complaints about how clunky it is to travel from planet to planet. Going from somewhere like eos to kadara badlands legit takes 5 minutes of lvarious loading screens and transitional cutscenes. Please make it stop.
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Post by R'Shara on May 16, 2017 15:23:51 GMT
Why should one wait months or a year before a game is in a state that it should've been at launch? Why should one then invest 60$ off the bat and wait for a finished product? People don't pay to beta test games, they do it expecting a good product from the start. Secondly, why would anything change if the first impression was shit? What's to say that doesn't just continue on in patches and DLC? It's happened to games before. even if a game does get better over time, it's first impression still sticks with it. Reviews don't just change due to developer laziness nor would mine(I have no reason to excuse what they initially tried to give me). Why should I wait for a finished product when there are other games out there competing for my time? As I said, first impression means everything, especially when that's where most sales occur, where reviews give out their impressions, where people decide whether or not to buy based off reviews and how it's received. There's no reason why someone should have to wait for a game to get better lol. Anything post launch is supposed to enhance the experience, not fix what was botched up. Er literally no game has ever released in a state that it should be at launch. Unfortunately, people do pay to beta test games because it's quite impossible to find every single bug in software of this scope in a decent time frame. The point is to give some leeway for initial bugs, rather than expecting a perfect experience on round 1. Regardless, the bugs that remained were not gamebreaking, and a lot of the complaints were based on issues like animations and story that have nothing to do with beta testing. Stop throwing the money deal. The game is fine and perfectly playable. It just had some issues. You still own it til the end of time. It's only been 2 months and most of the complaints have been addressed. Feel free to sell the game. If your first impression was truly shit, then I'm sorry for you and your taste. MEA is a good game overall. It was just a hot mess at times. It's quite fucking hilarious how so many people look fondly at games like DAO and ME1 which had and still have hilarious bugs that are only fixed through custom content. Honestly. Just move on with your lives if you truly don't like the game anymore. Stop shitting on BioWare for at least trying to make it right for those who do want to give it another go. Are you joking right now? Because the bugs that remained, and STILL remain, are indeed gamebreaking. A LOT of them. Or do you not call crashing every time you try to go to the Nexus not game breaking? Infinite falling? Soft locks? CTD on Kadara? Crash every time you talk to certain squadmates? Unable to extract to Tempest on h-047c? Conversations or quest items not spawning? Enemies getting stuck and preventing progression? Doing things in the wrong order causing the entire quest to glitch out? Not game breaking. Sheesh.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 16, 2017 15:33:31 GMT
Er literally no game has ever released in a state that it should be at launch. Unfortunately, people do pay to beta test games because it's quite impossible to find every single bug in software of this scope in a decent time frame. The point is to give some leeway for initial bugs, rather than expecting a perfect experience on round 1. Regardless, the bugs that remained were not gamebreaking, and a lot of the complaints were based on issues like animations and story that have nothing to do with beta testing. Stop throwing the money deal. The game is fine and perfectly playable. It just had some issues. You still own it til the end of time. It's only been 2 months and most of the complaints have been addressed. Feel free to sell the game. If your first impression was truly shit, then I'm sorry for you and your taste. MEA is a good game overall. It was just a hot mess at times. It's quite fucking hilarious how so many people look fondly at games like DAO and ME1 which had and still have hilarious bugs that are only fixed through custom content. Honestly. Just move on with your lives if you truly don't like the game anymore. Stop shitting on BioWare for at least trying to make it right for those who do want to give it another go. Are you joking right now? Because the bugs that remained, and STILL remain, are indeed gamebreaking. A LOT of them. Or do you not call crashing every time you try to go to the Nexus not game breaking? Infinite falling? Soft locks? CTD on Kadara? Unable to extract to Tempest on h-047c? Conversations or quest items not spawning? Enemies getting stuck and preventing progression? Doing things in the wrong order causing the entire quest to glitch out? Not game breaking. Sheesh. Well let's give this some perspective. A lot of people play the game and don't experience any game-breaking bugs. I'm one of them. Every single game I've played has complaints about bugs. Even game-breaking ones. If you're one of the unlucky ones, you're a normal part of the computer gaming experience. So while I empathize, I do also have to give Bioware credit for a game that works perfectly fine for me. They are working on bug fixes, so if you want to wait around for that, great. If not, complaining about it repeatedly isn't going to help anything. Neither will yelling at people who have a bug free experience.
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquistion, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by R'Shara on May 16, 2017 15:57:37 GMT
Are you joking right now? Because the bugs that remained, and STILL remain, are indeed gamebreaking. A LOT of them. Or do you not call crashing every time you try to go to the Nexus not game breaking? Infinite falling? Soft locks? CTD on Kadara? Unable to extract to Tempest on h-047c? Conversations or quest items not spawning? Enemies getting stuck and preventing progression? Doing things in the wrong order causing the entire quest to glitch out? Not game breaking. Sheesh. Well let's give this some perspective. A lot of people play the game and don't experience any game-breaking bugs. I'm one of them. Every single game I've played has complaints about bugs. Even game-breaking ones. If you're one of the unlucky ones, you're a normal part of the computer gaming experience. So while I empathize, I do also have to give Bioware credit for a game that works perfectly fine for me. They are working on bug fixes, so if you want to wait around for that, great. If not, complaining about it repeatedly isn't going to help anything. Neither will yelling at people who have a bug free experience. My complaint is when people assume that because they haven't had game breaking bugs, that there aren't any game breaking bugs, and that the people who say the game is buggy are just over-reacting whiners. He and you had a great experience. Awesome. You're lucky. I wish I could have had your experience. I really do. Andromeda has a lot of potential, that I wish I could enjoy for just one session without something stupid happening. But you can see from the EA pages, and numerous other threads, that there are a lot of game breaking bugs. IIRC, the current Kadara bug affects everyone, for example. But claiming there are no game breaking bugs is painfully incorrect. And I'm sorry, but if we don't bring up those bugs, they're never going to be fixed.
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