Mass Effect Andromeda has sold millions under sales projections

Okay, so just to pull numbers outta my ass, 2,700,000 x $30 = 81,000,000. And 2,700,000 x $60 = 162,000,000. 81,000,000 + 162,000,000 = 243,000,000. And this is not to state all the microtransactions that are filling their coffers. Again, no one is stating that this game was a financial failure. Not even the guy in the video.

I mean, how this conversation turned into how well is EA doing is beyond me. It's like none of you watched the video.

Heard the first minute of it and heard Scientology err BioWare being decried and then proclaimed it fake news?

Holy f'in god.

i really like pathfinder's setting but i REALLY don't like how focused on min/maxing the rules are. it's designed from the ground up by and for min/maxer's and autists. the rest of us normies have to play on crayon eater difficulty just to hit a target.
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Post by linksocarina on May 23, 2017 20:34:48 GMT

May 23, 2017 20:32:37 GMT goishen said:

Okay, so just to pull numbers outta my ass, 2,700,000 x $30 = 81,000,000. And 2,700,000 x $60 = 162,000,000. 81,000,000 + 162,000,000 = 243,000,000. And this is not to state all the microtransactions that are filling their coffers. Again, no one is stating that this game was a financial failure. Not even the guy in the video.

I mean, how this conversation turned into how well is EA doing is beyond me. It's like none of you watched the video.

Heard the first minute of it and heard Scientology err BioWare being decried and then proclaimed it fake news?

Holy f'in god.

Maybe because the video itself is flawed and not compelling evidence on it's own.

That does tend to happen.

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May 23, 2017 20:34:48 GMT linksocarina said:

Maybe because the video itself is flawed and not compelling evidence on it's own.

That does tend to happen.

How is it flawed?

Because he doesn't have the exact figures down to a science that the game has sold? Hell man, you're a journalist, and a gaming journalist at that. As soon as you get those numbers, you let me know.

i really like pathfinder's setting but i REALLY don't like how focused on min/maxing the rules are. it's designed from the ground up by and for min/maxer's and autists. the rest of us normies have to play on crayon eater difficulty just to hit a target.
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Post by linksocarina on May 23, 2017 20:43:24 GMT

May 23, 2017 20:37:39 GMT goishen said:

May 23, 2017 20:34:48 GMT linksocarina said:

Maybe because the video itself is flawed and not compelling evidence on it's own.

That does tend to happen.

How is it flawed?

Because he doesn't have the exact figures down to a science that the game has sold? Hell man, you're a journalist, and a gaming journalist at that. As soon as you get those numbers, you let me know.

We never get numbers exact, except out of fiscal year reports.

Here's the thing, the reddit post, the video, and what we basically know from other souces can discern a few things overall regarding the sales.

It's flawed because the analysis is missing a lot of information that can change and interpret the success or failure of the game, not just numbers but also the climate within EA, which is decisively mixed as far as I have observed. In truth, the number of units sold really doesn't matter as much in this instance, I suspect Andromeda will hit most of their expectations, but the problem is the excitement for the game is probably dead or deflated within EA and BioWare.

Using the video with the other sources, the video becomes less important ultimately.

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Post by goishen on May 23, 2017 20:47:24 GMT

May 23, 2017 20:43:24 GMT linksocarina said:

May 23, 2017 20:37:39 GMT goishen said:

How is it flawed?

Because he doesn't have the exact figures down to a science that the game has sold? Hell man, you're a journalist, and a gaming journalist at that. As soon as you get those numbers, you let me know.

We never get numbers exact, except out of fiscal year reports.

Here's the thing, the reddit post, the video, and what we basically know from other souces can discern a few things overall regarding the sales.

It's flawed because the analysis is missing a lot of information that can change and interpret the success or failure of the game, not just numbers but also the climate within EA, which is decisively mixed as far as I have observed. In truth, the number of units sold really doesn't matter as much in this instance, I suspect Andromeda will hit most of their expectations, but the problem is the excitement for the game is probably dead or deflated within EA and BioWare.

Oh, you mean just like No Man's Sky? Which was selling gang busters, until everyone got it home and found out it was shit?

I'm saying that a game can do well financially, and be extremely damaging to its universe and franchise at the same time. Which is the point I believe you were referring to. But don't half ass this guy because he's making a video that all the other sites (like The Know) are making.

i really like pathfinder's setting but i REALLY don't like how focused on min/maxing the rules are. it's designed from the ground up by and for min/maxer's and autists. the rest of us normies have to play on crayon eater difficulty just to hit a target.
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Post by Pounce de León on May 23, 2017 21:34:41 GMT

May 23, 2017 20:32:37 GMT goishen said:

Okay, so just to pull numbers outta my ass, 2,700,000 x $30 = 81,000,000. And 2,700,000 x $60 = 162,000,000. 81,000,000 + 162,000,000 = 243,000,000. And this is not to state all the microtransactions that are filling their coffers. Again, no one is stating that this game was a financial failure. Not even the guy in the video.

I mean, how this conversation turned into how well is EA doing is beyond me. It's like none of you watched the video.

Heard the first minute of it and heard Scientology err BioWare being decried and then proclaimed it fake news?

Holy f'in god.

Hm?

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Post by Sanunes on May 23, 2017 21:51:29 GMT

May 23, 2017 20:32:37 GMT goishen said:

Okay, so just to pull numbers outta my ass, 2,700,000 x $30 = 81,000,000. And 2,700,000 x $60 = 162,000,000. 81,000,000 + 162,000,000 = 243,000,000. And this is not to state all the microtransactions that are filling their coffers. Again, no one is stating that this game was a financial failure. Not even the guy in the video.

I mean, how this conversation turned into how well is EA doing is beyond me. It's like none of you watched the video.

Heard the first minute of it and heard Scientology err BioWare being decried and then proclaimed it fake news?

Holy f'in god.

It could a reflex around here since anytime someone makes something negative about the game it gets brought here.

The problem I have with the video is projections change, because the information based on those calculations change. An example could be that they were expecting Horizon Zero Dawn not to be a big hit, but since it did the math shows less people would buy Andromeda for the PS4 because they would still be playing Horizon Zero Dawn. Resident Evil VII didn't even meet its projections either and well any Squarenix game won't either, but those guys have crazy targets.

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May 23, 2017 18:13:25 GMT linksocarina said:

May 23, 2017 17:05:39 GMT sdzald said:

All companies are in business to make money. I have no problem with that. However just like in any business, some companies actually care about the product they put out, some only care about profit, many fall in between. EA is the poster child for ONLY caring about profit.

I simple comparison between Rockstar and EA is all you have to look at to know NOT all companies are the same.

True, but EA is not that kind of company.

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May 23, 2017 20:43:24 GMT linksocarina said:

In truth, the number of units sold really doesn't matter as much in this instance, I suspect Andromeda will hit most of their expectations, but the problem is the excitement for the game is probably dead or deflated within EA and BioWare.

Oh, you mean just like No Man's Sky? Which was selling gang busters, until everyone got it home and found out it was shit?

I'm saying that a game can do well financially, and be extremely damaging to its universe and franchise at the same time. Which is the point I believe you were referring to. But don't half ass this guy because he's making a video that all the other sites (like The Know) are making.

Remember the good old days when it was ME3 which was supposed to have destroyed the series?

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May 23, 2017 17:05:39 GMT sdzald said:

May 23, 2017 16:56:06 GMT Sanunes said:

Why should people only "wake up and stop buying EA products" when everything EA does is common, you would need them to wake up to the entire industry and not cherry-picked publishers.

All companies are in business to make money. I have no problem with that. However just like in any business, some companies actually care about the product they put out, some only care about profit, many fall in between. EA is the poster child for ONLY caring about profit.

I simple comparison between Rockstar and EA is all you have to look at to know NOT all companies are the same.

You're comparing a developer to a publisher? Why?

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Oh, you mean just like No Man's Sky? Which was selling gang busters, until everyone got it home and found out it was shit?

I'm saying that a game can do well financially, and be extremely damaging to its universe and franchise at the same time. Which is the point I believe you were referring to. But don't half ass this guy because he's making a video that all the other sites (like The Know) are making.

Remember the good old days when it was ME3 which was supposed to have destroyed the series?

Have you noticed how ME3's reputation has shot up around these parts recently?

The problem is, since the advent of multiple patches and updates throughout the life cycle of a game, studios have got sloppy with thinking they can get away with releasing an unfinished game and then patch it later. This bites them in the ass when they release the next game, because we all remember how good the last one was after it got patched. When we get the new game (big example being MEA), everyone tears it to shreds because "it has so many more bugs than the last one."

Just watch the cycle repeat when/if the next one comes out...

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May 24, 2017 1:32:31 GMT @frex98 said:

Remember the good old days when it was ME3 which was supposed to have destroyed the series?

Have you noticed how ME3's reputation has shot up around these parts recently?

The problem is, since the advent of multiple patches and updates throughout the life cycle of a game, studios have got sloppy with thinking they can get away with releasing an unfinished game and then patch it later. This bites them in the ass when they release the next game, because we all remember how good the last one was after it got patched. When we get the new game (big example being MEA), everyone tears it to shreds because "it has so many more bugs than the last one."

Just watch the cycle repeat when/if the next one comes out...

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Post by colfoley on May 24, 2017 1:39:31 GMT

May 24, 2017 1:32:31 GMT @frex98 said:

Remember the good old days when it was ME3 which was supposed to have destroyed the series?

Have you noticed how ME3's reputation has shot up around these parts recently?

The problem is, since the advent of multiple patches and updates throughout the life cycle of a game, studios have got sloppy with thinking they can get away with releasing an unfinished game and then patch it later. This bites them in the ass when they release the next game, because we all remember how good the last one was after it got patched. When we get the new game (big example being MEA), everyone tears it to shreds because "it has so many more bugs than the last one."

Just watch the cycle repeat when/if the next one comes out...

yeah but for me personally I think MEA is the first game I've ever played that i haven't considered 'ready' on launch.

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May 24, 2017 1:39:31 GMT colfoley said:

May 24, 2017 1:32:31 GMT @frex98 said:

Have you noticed how ME3's reputation has shot up around these parts recently?

The problem is, since the advent of multiple patches and updates throughout the life cycle of a game, studios have got sloppy with thinking they can get away with releasing an unfinished game and then patch it later. This bites them in the ass when they release the next game, because we all remember how good the last one was after it got patched. When we get the new game (big example being MEA), everyone tears it to shreds because "it has so many more bugs than the last one."

Just watch the cycle repeat when/if the next one comes out...

yeah but for me personally I think MEA is the first game I've ever played that i haven't considered 'ready' on launch.

For sure, it's one of the worst offenders I can think of in terms of AAA releases. It's a shame, because if you can get past the bugs and issues there is a great game to be found. Hopefully as the patches come through that potential can be realised.

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May 24, 2017 1:48:58 GMT @frex98 said:

May 24, 2017 1:39:31 GMT colfoley said:

yeah but for me personally I think MEA is the first game I've ever played that i haven't considered 'ready' on launch.

For sure, it's one of the worst offenders I can think of in terms of AAA releases. It's a shame, because if you can get past the bugs and issues there is a great game to be found. Hopefully as the patches come through that potential can be realised.

great game hiding under a poorly presented game. Which since bugs haven't really bothered me...and less as I've gotten older.

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Post by Sharable Horizon on May 24, 2017 2:16:09 GMT

May 24, 2017 1:35:19 GMT Fen'Harel Faceman said:

May 24, 2017 1:32:31 GMT @frex98 said:

Have you noticed how ME3's reputation has shot up around these parts recently?

The problem is, since the advent of multiple patches and updates throughout the life cycle of a game, studios have got sloppy with thinking they can get away with releasing an unfinished game and then patch it later. This bites them in the ass when they release the next game, because we all remember how good the last one was after it got patched. When we get the new game (big example being MEA), everyone tears it to shreds because "it has so many more bugs than the last one."

Just watch the cycle repeat when/if the next one comes out...

Since I'm watching through galactica again as I type (a frakking great series for those who haven't seen it) I've realised recently that the posts from all of the usual suspects have given me Adama face. Cheers BSN!

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May 24, 2017 2:16:09 GMT Sharable Horizon said:

May 24, 2017 1:35:19 GMT Fen'Harel Faceman said:

Since I'm watching through galactica again as I type (a frakking great series for those who haven't seen it) I've realised recently that the posts from all of the usual suspects have given me Adama face. Cheers BSN!

To think, that finale pissed off half the fanbase but time finally made its legacy clear.

But then, I love Andromeda and the BSG finale Daybreak, so some would say I know nothing.

Still have my faith in Bioware.

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Post by Sanunes on May 24, 2017 2:44:45 GMT

May 24, 2017 1:48:58 GMT @frex98 said:

May 24, 2017 1:39:31 GMT colfoley said:

yeah but for me personally I think MEA is the first game I've ever played that i haven't considered 'ready' on launch.

For sure, it's one of the worst offenders I can think of in terms of AAA releases. It's a shame, because if you can get past the bugs and issues there is a great game to be found. Hopefully as the patches come through that potential can be realised.

Maybe it is because I play on the PC, but from my experiences I would consider Andromeda average with bugs and other issues. Arkham Knight is probably the worst offender for me due to it being completely unplayable or a Bethesda game where I can't exit the starting building because I am will always fall through the floor. There are notable games too such as Dishonored 2 and Prey had uncommon, but nasty issues too.

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May 24, 2017 2:44:45 GMT Sanunes said:

May 24, 2017 1:48:58 GMT @frex98 said:

For sure, it's one of the worst offenders I can think of in terms of AAA releases. It's a shame, because if you can get past the bugs and issues there is a great game to be found. Hopefully as the patches come through that potential can be realised.

Maybe it is because I play on the PC, but from my experiences I would consider Andromeda average with bugs and other issues. Arkham Knight is probably the worst offender for me due to it being completely unplayable or a Bethesda game where I can't exit the starting building because I am will always fall through the floor. There are notable games too such as Dishonored 2 and Prey had uncommon, but nasty issues too.

Arkham City? That's the one that got recalled. That one was actually unplayable, literally. ME:A wasn't broken to that extent, I could play it at launch, but the experience was ruined by the bugs and technical issues. That taste stays in your mouth unfortunately, even after some of the things are fixed.

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May 23, 2017 20:43:24 GMT linksocarina said:

We never get numbers exact, except out of fiscal year reports.

Here's the thing, the reddit post, the video, and what we basically know from other souces can discern a few things overall regarding the sales.

It's flawed because the analysis is missing a lot of information that can change and interpret the success or failure of the game, not just numbers but also the climate within EA, which is decisively mixed as far as I have observed. In truth, the number of units sold really doesn't matter as much in this instance, I suspect Andromeda will hit most of their expectations, but the problem is the excitement for the game is probably dead or deflated within EA and BioWare.

Oh, you mean just like No Man's Sky? Which was selling gang busters, until everyone got it home and found out it was shit?

I'm saying that a game can do well financially, and be extremely damaging to its universe and franchise at the same time. Which is the point I believe you were referring to. But don't half ass this guy because he's making a video that all the other sites (like The Know) are making.

When you compare this guy to a terrible, sensationalist channel like the know,then you have insight into why i'm "halfassing" this guy.

But yes, that is the point I'm referring too.

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Oh, you mean just like No Man's Sky? Which was selling gang busters, until everyone got it home and found out it was shit?

I'm saying that a game can do well financially, and be extremely damaging to its universe and franchise at the same time. Which is the point I believe you were referring to. But don't half ass this guy because he's making a video that all the other sites (like The Know) are making.

Remember the good old days when it was ME3 which was supposed to have destroyed the series?

Well, I never said ME3 destroyed the series. But I do hate ME3 quite a bit, both rationally and irrationally. And it does taint any thought of replaying the original trilogy. If that makes you feel any better.

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