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Post by dreman999 on May 25, 2017 2:46:01 GMT
1.Prove it uising to full decription of Cora's and Miranda's powers then. I don't have to prove anything. The question is Miranda vs Cora. I chose Miranda. So? 1. That's your preference. Not who would win in a fight. 2. You want to pick the weaker version?
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Post by dreman999 on May 25, 2017 2:51:27 GMT
That means what? The majority of my ME1 playthroughs are on insanity mode. The fight isn't that hard. it's mostly easy because the boss is easy. the fight is only easy with... 1. a well developed singularity to use. 2. a well developed lift to use. 3. A tank Shepard other wise you are looking at stun lock via throw city.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on May 25, 2017 3:26:46 GMT
I actually prefer this nerdy shit-talking over the endlessly repeated stale complaints. Thanks, everyone.
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 25, 2017 13:42:59 GMT
It was not plot armor I used. it was an actual fight. If you want to used that excuse I can say the same thing about Shepard Beating those Asari commandos. lolno. The asari commandos who essentially come at Shepard one at a time and still need geth as cannon fodder, while their leader stands in one spot with literal plot armor? Please. Certain asari are powerful. Asari as a whole? Not tactically impressive. At least in nothing we see firsthand. And that worthless fucking waste of space Vasir had plot armor too. From the moment she starts running (that fall where even if you play a biotic Shepard you're still forced to be stunned) to the stupid hostage situation (full Renegade dick Shepard wouldn't even bother saying he'd shoot through a hostage, he'd just do it) to the moronic fight itself. The useless bitch is basically protoLeng, only she actually raises the required homicidal rage as opposed to actually failing at everything. The asari commandos on Noveria were joke. I still laugh each time I play ME1 when I hear benezia say, "Have you ever seen an asari commndo unit before? Few humans have". What a joke. Too bad my Shepard couldn't say to her, "Have you ever seen a human spectre before? Few asari have". You do get to trash talk her a bit. I enjoy that. She has a retort but then it's headshot time.
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Post by simit on May 25, 2017 14:26:15 GMT
Does it take place in a mud ring? cause if it is am shouting "draw" till they passout 😆
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Post by dreman999 on May 25, 2017 15:24:13 GMT
It was not plot armor I used. it was an actual fight. If you want to used that excuse I can say the same thing about Shepard Beating those Asari commandos. lolno. The asari commandos who essentially come at Shepard one at a time and still need geth as cannon fodder, while their leader stands in one spot with literal plot armor? Please. Certain asari are powerful. Asari as a whole? Not tactically impressive. At least in nothing we see firsthand. And that worthless fucking waste of space Vasir had plot armor too. From the moment she starts running (that fall where even if you play a biotic Shepard you're still forced to be stunned) to the stupid hostage situation (full Renegade dick Shepard wouldn't even bother saying he'd shoot through a hostage, he'd just do it) to the moronic fight itself. The useless bitch is basically protoLeng, only she actually raises the required homicidal rage as opposed to actually failing at everything. The asari commandos on Noveria were joke. I still laugh each time I play ME1 when I hear benezia say, "Have you ever seen an asari commndo unit before? Few humans have". What a joke. Too bad my Shepard couldn't say to her, "Have you ever seen a human spectre before? Few asari have". You do get to trash talk her a bit. I enjoy that. She has a retort but then it's headshot time. rage much. Tala fight has been one of the most praised boss fights in all of ME and now some how she's trash? Today is backwards day. The woman was in a 3 on one fight bleeding out and was still an agrees I've as hell fight and was the first time fought a teleporting varguad which charge. To this date she is the best boss fight in all of mass effect that is not some dude that's a bullet spine with some adds. She was one of the reasons why lofsb is me best dlcs. And saying it's plot armor...ha. this not like Lang where your forced to lose or could liquid her in second. Plot armor.is invonrablity in cut scene not in an actual player controled fight. I have not seen on video where anyone taken her down in seconds. From the start of the fight she is on you unless you have stasis to spam on her. She does not have plot armor she is just that good.....and it was a one on three fight. And the Novara benefit fight. It is an easy boss fight...become.the boss does nothing and drains her self....but unless you have: 1.advanced singularity to spam. 2.advanced lift to spam. 3. Advanced dampen to spam. 4.a tank build for your shepard. You going to be hit with hordes of throws and stun locked to death if you playon hardcover and insanity. And I play that mission multiple times, I know what's need to bet it. It's only a cake walk on normal. And I know how hard it is with an infiltrator, engineer or a sentinal. If you don't prep for it on the harder difficulties...you're going.to have a bad time.
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 25, 2017 15:41:20 GMT
rage much. Tala fight has been one of the most praised boss fights in all of ME and now some how she's trash? Today is backwards day. The woman was in a 3 on one fight bleeding out and was still an agrees I've as hell fight and was the first time fought a teleporting varguad which charge. To this date she is the best boss fight in all of mass effect that is not some dude that's a bullet spine with some adds. She was one of the reasons why lofsb is me best dlcs. And saying it's plot armor...ha. this not like Lang where your forced to lose or could liquid her in second. Plot armor.is invonrablity in cut scene not in an actual player controled fight. I have not seen on video where anyone taken her down in seconds. From the start of the fight she is on you unless you have stasis to spam on her. She does not have plot armor she is just that good.....and it was a one on three fight. And the Novara benefit fight. It is an easy boss fight...become.the boss does nothing and drains her self....but unless you have: 1.advanced singularity to spam. 2.advanced lift to spam. 3. Advanced dampen to spam. 4.a tank build for your shepard. You going to be hit with hordes of throws and stun locked to death if you playon hardcover and insanity. And I play that mission multiple times, I know what's need to bet it. It's only a cake walk on normal. And I know how hard it is with an infiltrator, engineer or a sentinal. If you don't prep for it on the harder difficulties...you're going.to have a bad time.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 16:29:35 GMT
I'm torn between them. I felt like I got used to Miranda but found her rather annoying and bitchy for ages. Just brought her for the sentinel build to be honest. She became a mainstay on my team. But I liked her loyalty mission quite a bit because you saw that she actually cared about someone which is easy to miss.
Cora on the other hand has all that poor me I'm biotic bullshit going on. It's be fucking original if they had a human biotic who was like yeah, don't like it, your problem. Not mine. This whiny life is rough as a biotic thing is so old it's tiresome. And worse, they make her a follower who thinks she's an asari huntress who has idols that when they try to make a good choice that they think is the best way to say tens of thousands of people, she is unwilling to see how that might really have seemed like the best option to Sarissa who was all about strategy (but apparently only strategy Cora likes). She gets tiresome but she has a sweet side and she respects the pathfinders authority. She also isn't losing it like Liam which is a plus. She just has too many heroes and doesn't think much of herself or for herself. At least she evolves a bit though.
Neither of them is really very good. For looks, probably miranada. For personality cora is nicer and more pleasant in general. But in the end, they both have huge issues that make both of them unappealing for a while but they both grown on you. So tied I guess. But Miranda has the best outfit for sure.
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Post by dreman999 on May 25, 2017 17:07:27 GMT
rage much. Tala fight has been one of the most praised boss fights in all of ME and now some how she's trash? Today is backwards day. The woman was in a 3 on one fight bleeding out and was still an agrees I've as hell fight and was the first time fought a teleporting varguad which charge. To this date she is the best boss fight in all of mass effect that is not some dude that's a bullet spine with some adds. She was one of the reasons why lofsb is me best dlcs. And saying it's plot armor...ha. this not like Lang where your forced to lose or could liquid her in second. Plot armor.is invonrablity in cut scene not in an actual player controled fight. I have not seen on video where anyone taken her down in seconds. From the start of the fight she is on you unless you have stasis to spam on her. She does not have plot armor she is just that good.....and it was a one on three fight. And the Novara benefit fight. It is an easy boss fight...become.the boss does nothing and drains her self....but unless you have: 1.advanced singularity to spam. 2.advanced lift to spam. 3. Advanced dampen to spam. 4.a tank build for your shepard. You going to be hit with hordes of throws and stun locked to death if you playon hardcover and insanity. And I play that mission multiple times, I know what's need to bet it. It's only a cake walk on normal. And I know how hard it is with an infiltrator, engineer or a sentinal. If you don't prep for it on the harder difficulties...you're going.to have a bad time. OK then then tell how you beat them then. If it's with advanced lift, advance singularity, dampen or a tank build than it's clear that I'm right. Ok...I'll wait.
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Post by dreman999 on May 25, 2017 17:10:23 GMT
I'm torn between them. I felt like I got used to Miranda but found her rather annoying and bitchy for ages. Just brought her for the sentinel build to be honest. She became a mainstay on my team. But I liked her loyalty mission quite a bit because you saw that she actually cared about someone which is easy to miss. Cora on the other hand has all that poor me I'm biotic bullshit going on. It's be fucking original if they had a human biotic who was like yeah, don't like it, your problem. Not mine. This whiny life is rough as a biotic thing is so old it's tiresome. And worse, they make her a follower who thinks she's an asari huntress who has idols that when they try to make a good choice that they think is the best way to say tens of thousands of people, she is unwilling to see how that might really have seemed like the best option to Sarissa who was all about strategy (but apparently only strategy Cora likes). She gets tiresome but she has a sweet side and she respects the pathfinders authority. She also isn't losing it like Liam which is a plus. She just has too many heroes and doesn't think much of herself or for herself. At least she evolves a bit though. Neither of them is really very good. For looks, probably miranada. For personality cora is nicer and more pleasant in general. But in the end, they both have huge issues that make both of them unappealing for a while but they both grown on you. So tied I guess. But Miranda has the best outfit for sure. I'm not trying to insult.or anything but are you aware of intentional flaws made for characters?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 18:00:05 GMT
I'm torn between them. I felt like I got used to Miranda but found her rather annoying and bitchy for ages. Just brought her for the sentinel build to be honest. She became a mainstay on my team. But I liked her loyalty mission quite a bit because you saw that she actually cared about someone which is easy to miss. Cora on the other hand has all that poor me I'm biotic bullshit going on. It's be fucking original if they had a human biotic who was like yeah, don't like it, your problem. Not mine. This whiny life is rough as a biotic thing is so old it's tiresome. And worse, they make her a follower who thinks she's an asari huntress who has idols that when they try to make a good choice that they think is the best way to say tens of thousands of people, she is unwilling to see how that might really have seemed like the best option to Sarissa who was all about strategy (but apparently only strategy Cora likes). She gets tiresome but she has a sweet side and she respects the pathfinders authority. She also isn't losing it like Liam which is a plus. She just has too many heroes and doesn't think much of herself or for herself. At least she evolves a bit though. Neither of them is really very good. For looks, probably miranada. For personality cora is nicer and more pleasant in general. But in the end, they both have huge issues that make both of them unappealing for a while but they both grown on you. So tied I guess. But Miranda has the best outfit for sure. I'm not trying to insult.or anything but are you aware of intentional flaws made for characters? Of course I am. But there is a way to do it well and a way to do it poorly - where it's a boring cliche. They've nailed the boring cliche too well with both characters. The only unique thing about them is the specific things they have issues with. Miranda, classic bad girl with daddy issues. Boring snob with everything given to her and whining about it. Underlying insecurities covered by overt snobbery. Came from rich family for added cliche touch just in case we missed a spot. The only unique elements here are that we are dealing with genetic modifications and she was 'engineered' or grown rather than born. And guess what? The boring cliche bitchy snob has a heart of gold. *sigh* Cora is the female version of Kaidan. Same 'poor me I am biotic' bullshit. Derived from the cliche group of I'm different/special/strange/unique and feared/misunderstood which creates a poor me whining character often with a tragic youth related to their poor me issue. Also not new or original is the character who has no sense of self/self-esteem and looks to others to lead/guide as well as using this as a way to fit in. Most often you see this in stories where characters get in with the wrong crowd. That is a common usage of it. But it has been used almost equally as often with characters who fall into the role of the avid follower/fan putting all their faith into a person/group, idealizing and/or idolizing them to ultimately watch that person/group get knocked off their pedestal leaving said character angry/troubled over it. You see, there is nothing either new or original with any of this. They take a cliche and change things up. It's boring. Very boring. It's also fairly predictable what will come next. But during the interim, if you know the cliche, you know where it's going and this makes it particularly tedious as you watch it unfold knowing where it will lead and what the likely upcoming scenes with that character will entail. Usually when a cliche is written, it's followed through on consistently enough that the predictable nature makes it far less enjoyable. There's nothing wrong with giving a character flaws, but my point is they should try to be more original. Taking classic cliche characters and copy/pasting new kinds of issues onto them isn't really particularly creative. It's a lazy way out of writing a truly original and unique character. The only reason BW gets away with it is because most of their fans are likely very young and play too many games to be really familiar with easily recognizable cliches. If they want to give characters flaws, they should simply have a fresh approach to it. In the case of cora they basically took kaidan and gussied him up with a few changes.
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Post by lynx7386 on May 25, 2017 18:15:02 GMT
I feel the need to reiterate "Geth Groupie" as a poll option. Tali slays it better than the asari wannabe or Cerberus cheerleader ever could.
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Post by dreman999 on May 25, 2017 18:37:38 GMT
I'm not trying to insult.or anything but are you aware of intentional flaws made for characters? Of course I am. But there is a way to do it well and a way to do it poorly - where it's a boring cliche. They've nailed the boring cliche too well with both characters. The only unique thing about them is the specific things they have issues with. Miranda, classic bad girl with daddy issues. Boring snob with everything given to her and whining about it. Underlying insecurities covered by overt snobbery. Came from rich family for added cliche touch just in case we missed a spot. The only unique elements here are that we are dealing with genetic modifications and she was 'engineered' or grown rather than born. And guess what? The boring cliche bitchy snob has a heart of gold. *sigh* Cora is the female version of Kaidan. Same 'poor me I am biotic' bullshit. Derived from the cliche group of I'm different/special/strange/unique and feared/misunderstood which creates a poor me whining character often with a tragic youth related to their poor me issue. Also not new or original is the character who has no sense of self/self-esteem and looks to others to lead/guide as well as using this as a way to fit in. Most often you see this in stories where characters get in with the wrong crowd. That is a common usage of it. But it has been used almost equally as often with characters who fall into the role of the avid follower/fan putting all their faith into a person/group, idealizing and/or idolizing them to ultimately watch that person/group get knocked off their pedestal leaving said character angry/troubled over it. You see, there is nothing either new or original with any of this. They take a cliche and change things up. It's boring. Very boring. It's also fairly predictable what will come next. But during the interim, if you know the cliche, you know where it's going and this makes it particularly tedious as you watch it unfold knowing where it will lead and what the likely upcoming scenes with that character will entail. Usually when a cliche is written, it's followed through on consistently enough that the predictable nature makes it far less enjoyable. There's nothing wrong with giving a character flaws, but my point is they should try to be more original. Taking classic cliche characters and copy/pasting new kinds of issues onto them isn't really particularly creative. It's a lazy way out of writing a truly original and unique character. The only reason BW gets away with it is because most of their fans are likely very young and play too many games to be really familiar with easily recognizable cliches. If they want to give characters flaws, they should simply have a fresh approach to it. In the case of cora they basically took kaidan and gussied him up with a few changes. OK I agree with you on Miranda. But Cora is not like Kaiden. He was never a poor me character. He'said more of look at all the crap I came over character. Kaiden is not a person who is lost and feels like they need guidance character like Cora.He's not telling you his trouble because he wants sympathy.He is just telling you because you asked. Cora and Kaiden are only the same because they had issues due to being biotic. The same can be said about Jack. Now Jack...that is a poor me character. Cora is more like a far less crazy Jack who want to attack people to her. Cora is more of a reverse Jack. Though Cora is kinda a bitore unqui as a character trophy with it no one in me main cast has the hero worship she has. So it's a new bageneration of issues other then daddy issues. Ageing it is a flaw. It's used because it's a common reference Pont of relation.the thing is she like most the cast are still growing as people in belief and ideology. Even then this something people grow out of. Her story is about her growing past this. It may not be unique but it does fit her character and crew of people growing into their roles
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Post by dreman999 on May 25, 2017 18:38:35 GMT
I feel the need to reiterate "Geth Groupie" as a poll option. Tali slays it better than the asari wannabe or Cerberus cheerleader ever could. as a person really insanely loves Tali....I have to say no.
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Post by KaiserShep on May 25, 2017 23:12:50 GMT
Does it take place in a mud ring? cause if it is am shouting "draw" till they passout 😆 Jello is the new mud.
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Post by vonuber on May 26, 2017 0:04:47 GMT
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Post by KaiserShep on May 26, 2017 0:36:10 GMT
Vasir is one of the best characters in mass effect. It's too bad that she was just a DLC-specific NPC. I would've loved to have a character that you kind of knew through the story earlier but had show up to play a bigger role later. It makes the reveal as an enemy a bit better, though the LotSB story isn't exactly subtle, since it pretty much paints her as a suspicious character from the start. I guess that's sort of what DLC's do, but still.
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Post by Eterna on May 26, 2017 3:38:06 GMT
Cora is an annoying cunt who will not shut up about m-muh manuals or Huntresses. I would gladly take the Queen Bitch over her weabloo ass. How is that any different than Miranda mentioning how perfect she is every other sentence?
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