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Post by ioannisdenton on May 23, 2017 8:17:42 GMT
Played Up till Nexus for the 1st time. (insanity it took me 5 hours and i really was paying attention to the details)
Was cautious and sceptical due to the constant whinning.
Yet as for every bioware game i Knew the hyperbole of the average gamer.
Every time the same story:
Me1 gets released. It got bombed. " oh no! bad combat!, empty words! Mako sucks! dialogue is the same no matter the choice!"
Me2 gets released. "oh no! combat got streamlined! bring back the Me1 combat and the open-ness, Where is Mako?, hacking is a waste of time"
Me3 gets relesed. " oh no!garbage! Its call of duty now! bring back the cover strategy from Me2! No hacking? autodialogue? bring back 3 choices from me1! it got it right!"
Fast forward to 2017.
I was shocked to find out that:
1) Sjw BS. non existant. Lies. (P U N C H E S)
2)Bad animations. Non existant. lies. Some Mediocre (facial ones) sure but as of now with 1.07... Just No. the animation
3)Bad dialogue. i want so much to run and kick you in the nuts until the balls come out of your mouth. The dialogue is not bad at all, the opposite!
In fact the banter towards teh enviroment feels dynamic and the world feels very alive! i want to see the next Dragon age implement this system.
4) Voice acting. So far no problems. At all. Ryder sounds great. Liam sounds great! Cora sounds great. Lexi sounds great. Sam sounds great.
5) Combat . i dislike the lack of pause, the no radial wheel, the 3 powers mapping only. But it feels dynamic and the powers feel powerfull.
To those who say i played only the beginning . It was the right from the beginning that people ripped part anyway.
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Post by Melcara on May 23, 2017 8:21:15 GMT
Played Up till Nexus for the 1st time. (insanity it took me 5 hours and i really was paying attention to the details) Was cautious and sceptical due to the constant whinning. Yet as for every bioware game i Knew the hyperbole of the average gamer. Every time the same story: Me1 gets released. It got bombed. " oh no! bad combat!, empty words! Mako sucks! dialogue is the same no matter the choice!" Me2 gets released. "oh no! combat got streamlined! bring back the Me1 combat and the open-ness, Where is Mako?, hacking is a waste of time" Me3 gets relesed. " oh no!garbage! Its call of duty now! bring back the cover strategy from Me2! No hacking? autodialogue? bring back 3 choices from me1! it got it right!" Fast forward to 2017. I was shocked to find out that: 1) Sjw BS. non existant. Lies. (P U N C H E S) 2)Bad animations. Non existant. lies. Some Mediocre (facial ones) sure but as of now with 1.07... Just No. the animation 3)Bad dialogue. i want so much to run and kick you in the nuts until the balls come out of your mouth. The dialogue is not bad at all, the opposite! In fact the banter towards teh enviroment feels dynamic and the world feels very alive! i want to see the next Dragon age implement this system. 4) Voice acting. So far no problems. At all. Ryder sounds great. Liam sounds great! Cora sounds great. Lexi sounds great. Sam sounds great. 5) Combat . i dislike the lack of pause, the no radial wheel, the 3 powers mapping only. But it feels dynamic and the powers feel powerfull. To those who say i played only the beginning . It was the right from the beginning that people ripped part anyway. ...Maybe you should play the game first, before saying that the criticisms are invalid? |
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Post by ioannisdenton on May 23, 2017 8:26:11 GMT
i will do. these are my initial thoughts hoever.
I did not say this is the best game i played i stated that the crappiness arguments are overblown and some are just lies.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 8:36:26 GMT
Dude this isn't a Mass Effect game , I've played and completed countless hours of all ME titles.
ME 1,2 & 3 ARE Mass Effect games , they stay true to the charm and character of the game , the soundtrack sounds great and had that sci-fi feel to it.
Granted the VA sucks for Maleshep ( but I always played Femshep)
I could go on but you get the idea ... ;-)
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Post by Aetika on May 23, 2017 8:45:32 GMT
I played through the whole game. And I still love it  Sometimes I feel I am the only one...  It´s just the sheer amount of hate it´s getting doesn´t seem to be warranted. Keep playing, OP so I am not the only one who likes it :hearteyes: |
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Post by Gileadan on May 23, 2017 8:46:42 GMT
Did someone piss you off because he shot you in the face?
As far as animations go, you just wait until you get to the T-Rex bitchslap duel.
Well, some of the criticized things have indeed been patched in the meanwhile, like certain tired faces or the creepy overly attached girlfriend stare that many characters had. And a lot of the criticisms were rather hyperbolic... but not unfounded. Of course, it all depends what level of quality we expect from our games these days, and many people's expectations, including my own, were not met in some aspects.
It must be nice to play the game a certain time after release, where some of the early game problems were fixed. Keep going. I for one hope you will enjoy your playthrough. The combat is pretty good, actually.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on May 23, 2017 9:02:35 GMT
Threatening people that can roflstomp you with violence is a bad path to choose in life, OP.
Make better decisions, and lol.
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Post by Psychevore on May 23, 2017 9:04:35 GMT
Dude this isn't a Mass Effect game , I've played and completed countless hours of all ME titles. ME 1,2 & 3 ARE Mass Effect games , they stay true to the charm and character of the game , the soundtrack sounds great and had that sci-fi feel to it. Granted the VA sucks for Maleshep ( but I always played Femshep) I could go on but you get the idea ... ;-) The no true Scotsman falacy used for a game. What a world. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on May 23, 2017 9:27:52 GMT
Ha ha ha! Tough words coming from a maggot I could beat to death with one arm. Anyway, keep playing the game so you can actually make a comment about the story and the open world....which, to put it lightly, really aren't masterworks in the history of game development. And yeah, compared to top notch modern games facial animations are way sub-par. I recommend to play some good modern games so you can form a valid opinion about it. Heck you don't even have to look far, Dragon Age Inquisition had much better animations. |
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Post by SofaJockey on May 23, 2017 9:34:18 GMT
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Post by malgus on May 23, 2017 9:36:12 GMT
I played through the whole game. And I still love it Sometimes I feel I am the only one... It´s just the sheer amount of hate it´s getting doesn´t seem to be warranted. Keep playing, OP so I am not the only one who likes it :hearteyes: Don't worry you are not the only one, I loved it too. |
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Post by Melcara on May 23, 2017 9:40:38 GMT
I played through the whole game. And I still love it Sometimes I feel I am the only one... It´s just the sheer amount of hate it´s getting doesn´t seem to be warranted. Keep playing, OP so I am not the only one who likes it :hearteyes: Don't worry you are not the only one, I loved it too. The majority of people on this site like it, because it's Mass Effect. Don't kid yourselves. |
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Post by malgus on May 23, 2017 9:43:01 GMT
Don't worry you are not the only one, I loved it too. The majority of people on this site like it, because it's Mass Effect. Don't kid yourselves. kiding myself? I was just saying to an other person that she was not the only one loving the game because that is what she felt. that's it. |
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Post by Melcara on May 23, 2017 9:48:27 GMT
The majority of people on this site like it, because it's Mass Effect. Don't kid yourselves. kiding myself? I was just saying to an other person that she was not the only one loving the game because that is what she felt. that's it. Sure, I wasn't targeting you. What I meant was that I find this "I feel like I'm the only one who likes MEA" thing exhausting, because it's obviously not true, especially on this forum. |
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Post by malgus on May 23, 2017 9:49:43 GMT
kiding myself? I was just saying to an other person that she was not the only one loving the game because that is what she felt. that's it. Sure, I wasn't targeting you. What I meant was that I find this "I feel like I'm the only one who likes MEA" thing exhausting, because it's obviously not true, especially on this forum. ah ok I see |
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Post by Elessar on May 23, 2017 9:54:22 GMT
Dragon Age Inquisition had much better animations. I vehemently disagree. I really don't know what some people are seeing. It's like they are playing a different game or looking through rose colored glasses. At worst the animations are pretty much comparable to other Bioware games, little stiff and lifeless, at best it's better than any of them. And compared to other big RPGs, which there are not many of, it holds up and in some cases bests them. So i don't get the big hoopla, like at all. People took some blunders (which have been patched out for the most part by now) and blow it way out of proportion. As for the game itself, i'm enjoying it. Classic Bioware, some charm, some cheese. |
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on May 23, 2017 10:05:08 GMT
Dragon Age Inquisition had much better animations. I vehemently disagree. I really don't know what some people are seeing. It's like they are playing a different game or looking through rose colored glasses. At worst the animations are pretty much comparable to other Bioware games, little stiff and lifeless, at best it's better than any of them. And compared to other big RPGs, which there are not many of, it holds up and in some cases bests them. So i don't get the big hoopla, like at all. People took some blunders (which have been patched out for the most part by now) and blow it way out of proportion. As for the game itself, i'm enjoying it. Classic Bioware, some charm, some cheese. If you ask people who played both games I'm pretty sure that the majority would say that Inquisition had better animations. I played both games extensively and I find the facial animations of DA:I considerably better. Of course, there is some other games out there that do a way better job at this than Bioware ever did. |
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Post by Melcara on May 23, 2017 10:15:26 GMT
Dragon Age Inquisition had much better animations. I vehemently disagree. I really don't know what some people are seeing. It's like they are playing a different game or looking through rose colored glasses. At worst the animations are pretty much comparable to other Bioware games, little stiff and lifeless, at best it's better than any of them. And compared to other big RPGs, which there are not many of, it holds up and in some cases bests them. So i don't get the big hoopla, like at all. People took some blunders (which have been patched out for the most part by now) and blow it way out of proportion. As for the game itself, i'm enjoying it. Classic Bioware, some charm, some cheese. The animations in DAI are not exactly the best, as is the standard with Bioware games, but to say that they're at Andromeda's level is kind of insulting to the animators. They obviously put a lot more effort into them. A testament to this is, for example, the Solas scene in Tresspasser - his facial animations convey his emotions fairly well, and they also differ based on low approval/high approval/romance. |
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Post by Serza on May 23, 2017 10:21:27 GMT
Hey, OP: There is no Emotion. There is Peace. There is no Ignorance. There is Knowledge. There is no Passion. There is Serenity. There is no Chaos. There is Harmony. There is no Death. There is the Universe. Follow the five wise tenets. The next time you post, you may want to follow especially the first one. Alternatively, Emotion, yet Peace. Ignorance, yet Knowledge. Passion, yet Serenity. Chaos, yet Harmony. Death, yet the Universe. That's okay. As we all know, punching Nazis is fine (and the definition of the term "Nazi" was never broader!), and since everyone that disagrees and holds a non-politically correct opinion (especially on SJW related topics) is literally Hitler, you can punch the "haters". Yup. The math checks out. That said, don't let other opinions disturb your enjoyment. If you like ME:A, good for you. Thank fuck I'm a historian. "Nazi" stands for National Socialists, a movement that had exceptional power in Germany from 1933 to 1945 and nobody else. People just likening others to Nazis of that era is pretty god damn cheap. Threatening people that can roflstomp you with violence is a bad path to choose in life, OP. Make better decisions, and lol. Thanks for the reminder, I should get ready to roflstomp people... Ha ha ha! Tough words coming from a maggot I could beat to death with one arm. Anyway, keep playing the game so you can actually make a comment about the story and the open world....which, to put it lightly, really aren't masterworks in the history of game development. And yeah, compared to top notch modern games facial animations are way sub-par. I recommend to play some good modern games so you can form a valid opinion about it. Heck you don't even have to look far, Dragon Age Inquisition had much better animations. *poor Elcor imitation* "Badassly: Muscles don't matter. Technique does." (Imagine how that sounds, I dare you ) |
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Post by Serza on May 23, 2017 10:22:05 GMT
(But yeah, DAI had better animations on release. At the same time, I'm strongly biased towards Mass Effect here.)
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Post by projectpatdc on May 23, 2017 10:22:15 GMT
I vehemently disagree. I really don't know what some people are seeing. It's like they are playing a different game or looking through rose colored glasses. At worst the animations are pretty much comparable to other Bioware games, little stiff and lifeless, at best it's better than any of them. And compared to other big RPGs, which there are not many of, it holds up and in some cases bests them. So i don't get the big hoopla, like at all. People took some blunders (which have been patched out for the most part by now) and blow it way out of proportion. As for the game itself, i'm enjoying it. Classic Bioware, some charm, some cheese. If you ask people who played both games I'm pretty sure that the majority would say that Inquisition had better animations. I played both games extensively and I find the facial animations of DA:I considerably better. Of course, there is some other games out there that do a way better job at this than Bioware ever did. It's those darn Romanian FIFA devs fault! Outsourcing facial animations won't happen again. At least they raise all their women to be strippers. But in all seriousness, the patched animations look pretty good compared to release |
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Post by colfoley on May 23, 2017 10:24:29 GMT
Hey, OP: There is no Emotion. There is Peace. There is no Ignorance. There is Knowledge. There is no Passion. There is Serenity. There is no Chaos. There is Harmony. There is no Death. There is the Universe. Follow the five wise tenets. The next time you post, you may want to follow especially the first one. Alternatively, Emotion, yet Peace. Ignorance, yet Knowledge. Passion, yet Serenity. Chaos, yet Harmony. Death, yet the Universe. That's okay. As we all know, punching Nazis is fine (and the definition of the term "Nazi" was never broader!), and since everyone that disagrees and holds a non-politically correct opinion (especially on SJW related topics) is literally Hitler, you can punch the "haters". Yup. The math checks out. That said, don't let other opinions disturb your enjoyment. If you like ME:A, good for you. Thank fuck I'm a historian. "Nazi" stands for National Socialists, a movement that had exceptional power in Germany from 1933 to 1945 and nobody else. People just likening others to Nazis of that era is pretty god damn cheap. Threatening people that can roflstomp you with violence is a bad path to choose in life, OP. Make better decisions, and lol. Thanks for the reminder, I should get ready to roflstomp people... Ha ha ha! Tough words coming from a maggot I could beat to death with one arm. Anyway, keep playing the game so you can actually make a comment about the story and the open world....which, to put it lightly, really aren't masterworks in the history of game development. And yeah, compared to top notch modern games facial animations are way sub-par. I recommend to play some good modern games so you can form a valid opinion about it. Heck you don't even have to look far, Dragon Age Inquisition had much better animations. *poor Elcor imitation* "Badassly: Muscles don't matter. Technique does." (Imagine how that sounds, I dare you ) you cheeky bugger that's the Jedi code. |
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Post by Serza on May 23, 2017 10:26:20 GMT
Cheeki breeki!
But yeah, I only switched out the Force for the Universe, and turns out it works very, very well in real life, as well. Especially the "Grey" Jedi (alternative in my post) variant.
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Post by Elessar on May 23, 2017 10:35:29 GMT
I vehemently disagree. I really don't know what some people are seeing. It's like they are playing a different game or looking through rose colored glasses. At worst the animations are pretty much comparable to other Bioware games, little stiff and lifeless, at best it's better than any of them. And compared to other big RPGs, which there are not many of, it holds up and in some cases bests them. So i don't get the big hoopla, like at all. People took some blunders (which have been patched out for the most part by now) and blow it way out of proportion. As for the game itself, i'm enjoying it. Classic Bioware, some charm, some cheese. If you ask people who played both games I'm pretty sure that the majority would say that Inquisition had better animations. I played both games extensively and I find the facial animations of DA:I considerably better. Of course, there is some other games out there that do a way better job at this than Bioware ever did. If you put some of the better scenes of both games side by side i bet most people would agree with me. And big RPGs always fall behind in that department. Quantity over quality. What other big RPG makers are out there? Bethesda? CDPR? |
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