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Post by arvaarad on Jul 10, 2017 15:41:38 GMT
Well, I think originally I never thought of it because Flemythal died prior to Trespasser. "Bound to the will of a dead god? It seems an empty warning."
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 10, 2017 15:51:18 GMT
The only open world I've ever liked enough to be like ,"do that" is Horizon Zero Dawn. Witcher was okay but I didn't like it enough to be like "do that." I'd have to look at a Thedas map again, but as I recall, the Arbor Wilds didn't make much sense as a tropical place when it's on the same point as Lothering. Maybe something to do with the mountains, but then I looked at normal weather patterns that didn't make sense either. Though "different world" could explain it. *cough*... Ancient elvhen magic more than likely explains that. After all, both Arbor Wilds AND Frostback Basin (that's quite nearby and have similar biome) have two things in common - ginormous trees that seem to be upholding the ecosystem, as well as some ancient ruins. Oh, and of course, let's not forget the inside of Skyhold... on top of the mountain in the middle of snowy Frostbacks, surrounded by glaciers. Yet it's warm enough inside for everyone to parade in their casual clothes and even grow rare plants. Like I said. Ancient elvhen magic.
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Post by Lazarillo on Jul 10, 2017 16:04:59 GMT
I'd have to look at a Thedas map again, but as I recall, the Arbor Wilds didn't make much sense as a tropical place when it's on the same point as Lothering. Maybe something to do with the mountains, but then I looked at normal weather patterns that didn't make sense either. Though "different world" could explain it. Generally, when weird stuff like this happens in-setting, I turn to the words of Morrigan. If Mythal wants a tropical antarctic jungle, Mythal gets a tropical antarctic jungle.
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Post by ladyiolanthe on Jul 10, 2017 16:36:47 GMT
Well, I think originally I never thought of it because Flemythal died prior to Trespasser. And even an Inquisitor that drank can barely understand Elven in Trespasser, which makes Mythal hanging around in there unlikely. Unless you can be possessed and not know it, but Flemythal said a soul couldn't be forced on the unwilling, which implies "unknowing" is out of the picture. Well, if you drank the Well, you did so willingly. Ergo, if a piece of Mythal was in there, you drank her willingly, too. However, that only works for the Inquisitors who drank the Well, so I'm not sure how they would implement "all Inquisitors are carrying Mythal" in DA4. I guess you could have the Inquisitor or Morrigan playing interchangeable roles of carrying Mythal in DA4, but that almost certainly means the Inquisitor becomes an NPC, which would be disappointing for a lot of people, I think.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 11, 2017 9:42:28 GMT
I've been wondering about Minrathous recently. Aside from me thinking that it's possible that the city may be a major focus in next game, I recall that it is noted in the lore that it was never conquered by any army trying to besiege it... Kinda can't help thinking that there's some symbolism to that? As in: if Minrathous falls, it's an end of an era, effectively? The fall of Arlathan seemed to have symbolized the ultimate fall of Elvehnan - the fall of Minrathous may yet symbolize the fall of Thedas as it is now? Makes me curious whether we're going to witness that fall in DA4? Hard to say if there's significance to any of that. The only thing that seems to foreshadow how things may go in the future for Minrathous is Canticle of Exaltations, which mentions that when the Maker returns, it will be the place where Andraste forgives mankind's transgressions and *cough*... restores the original harmony. Not saying that this is EXACTLY what is going to happen... but that spiel about restring original harmony is a little suspicious
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Post by shechinah on Jul 11, 2017 15:30:13 GMT
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Post by wickedcool on Jul 11, 2017 19:42:56 GMT
If we assume the time frame is less than 2 years we've got to assume that
Its going to be built around minimum Xbox Scorpio specs.l?The next xbox ibex/Scorpio will be released in November. My guess is developers have been given some sort of specs. Ea will want to have games that take advantage of that . Hopefully the difference is not dramatic enough where we have a situation where 360/PS3 games couldnt support trespasser dlc
Will we see a major jump in graphics?. Sort of ties into how they built dai to support older systems. Was there a major jump with andromeda graphics/etc
Did andromeda do something gamewise that should be in da4. Dai finally got jumping so what's the obvious step (swimming/enemies that fly and attack from a height distance such as the Harpy from witcher)
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Post by rras1994 on Jul 11, 2017 21:29:52 GMT
I've been wondering about Minrathous recently. Aside from me thinking that it's possible that the city may be a major focus in next game, I recall that it is noted in the lore that it was never conquered by any army trying to besiege it... Kinda can't help thinking that there's some symbolism to that? I strongly suspect that there is something inside Minrathous that's really important. There's the fact they point out again and again it's never fallen, and that Andraste made a beeline towards Minrathous to try and take despite them lacking the numbers to likely take it and that it wasn't startegically a good idea to take it, as it led them right into enemy territory and would leave them vunerable in the lands they already gained. It's mentioned in one of the world of Thedas' (can't remember which one?) that that's the main reason that Maferath betrayed Andraste; it would lead to them losing everything. It begs the question though; why was Andraste so intent on getting into Minrathous? There must be something important there. Maybe something was brought there from Arlathan?
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 11, 2017 21:56:40 GMT
If we assume the time frame is less than 2 years we've got to assume that Its going to be built around minimum Xbox Scorpio specs.l?The next xbox ibex/Scorpio will be released in November. My guess is developers have been given some sort of specs. Ea will want to have games that take advantage of that . Hopefully the difference is not dramatic enough where we have a situation where 360/PS3 games couldnt support trespasser dlc Kinda unlikely it will happen - ultimately PS4 and PS4 Pro and XboX One and Xbox One X/S are still same consoles; the Pro and X/S are simply a tad better. And PS3/Xbox 360 were not only about a decade old compared to their replacements, they've had different architecture. So, while I think less computing power in earlier models might be an issue there somewhere, it will not be as big of a deal as it was between two different generations that were quite far apart from one another. There were noticeable upgrades, and not just in area of models, polygon count or textures. The lack of restrictions imposed on older hardware let Andromeda devs build larger cities and fill them with more NPCs (and them being more lively) or fill areas with more enemies. And I know that MEA animations are considered almost legendary in their badness by some, but in reality there were considerable improvements, especially in area of body animations or their ability to interact with objects/people and it actually looking like folks in game are interacting with the world, instead of it being all floaty and awkward. Aside from romance scenes, DAI devs really made it their goal to try and minimize showing people holding or touching anything or anyone. I think in the future this will change, which will let animators create better cinematics. Swimming would be good, if only for immersion. All that playing TES games taught me that I can jump into water and actually swim or dive somewhere so I was pretty dismayed when I learned that Dragon's Dogma/DAI's approach to swimming was "march into water and lose consciousness only to wake up dramatically on the shore surrounded by bewildered companions" ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/RebJidSPcxyF0U0Rr0uW.png) With that said, I don't need it as much - in fact, if I got to choose between it and other things that might prove more vital, then I'd probably choose something else: one of the things I really enjoyed in Andromeda is all the verticality and ability to jump nearly everywhere, or pull myself up and so on. I do enjoy platforming and 'terrain puzzles', so expanding PC's movement range and agility would be welcome. I don't think we'd get jetpacks like in Andromeda or Anthem ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/RebJidSPcxyF0U0Rr0uW.png) , but maybe grapple hooks (for warriors) or double jumps (for rogues) or some sort of gap closer akin to Fade Step in the air (mages) that could let us clear longer distances to that secret chest on that hard-to-reach ledge? I'd be very pleased of they did that. And I think Andromeda/Anthem may provide tech for them to build on. Question that remains is whether it is or how high it is on their priority list.
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Post by phoray on Jul 11, 2017 22:04:35 GMT
Well, I think originally I never thought of it because Flemythal died prior to Trespasser. "Bound to the will of a dead god? It seems an empty warning." Maybe it's cuz Flemythal always helped the Warden and Hawke, and in the end, even the Inquisitor....but being bound by her will didn't sound so scary to me. Yeah, she controlled my arms to prevent Morrigan from attacking without my consent, but I can't imagine she could manage to 24/7 puppet me for the rest of my life. If she wants me to be a useful minion, seems she would actually attempt to get the Quiz on her side or just kill me and have done with it.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 11, 2017 22:20:51 GMT
I've been wondering about Minrathous recently. Aside from me thinking that it's possible that the city may be a major focus in next game, I recall that it is noted in the lore that it was never conquered by any army trying to besiege it... Kinda can't help thinking that there's some symbolism to that? I strongly suspect that there is something inside Minrathous that's really important. There's the fact they point out again and again it's never fallen, and that Andraste made a beeline towards Minrathous to try and take despite them lacking the numbers to likely take it and that it wasn't startegically a good idea to take it, as it led them right into enemy territory and would leave them vunerable in the lands they already gained. It's mentioned in one of the world of Thedas' (can't remember which one?) that that's the main reason that Maferath betrayed Andraste; it would lead to them losing everything. It begs the question though; why was Andraste so intent on getting into Minrathous? There must be something important there. Maybe something was brought there from Arlathan? ... Or something they built over. Patrick Weekes stated in his interview with Biofan that many places in Tevinter weren't exactly built from the scratch after people arrived on Thedas and saw remains of Elvenhan - they "spraypainted" over it, knocked ears from statues and called it a day. So it's actually a huge possibility Minrathous was an important Elvhen city at one time - or at least that the foundations of Minrathous were Elvhen. I'm fairly sure there are some secrets buried there somewhere - and that's aside from Tevenes probably hoarding powerful ancient items in their capital. With that in mind... in Calpernia's short story it is mentioned that there that there are catacombs beneath the city and nobody know how deep they go. People hear or feel strange things coming from them.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 11, 2017 22:31:14 GMT
"Bound to the will of a dead god? It seems an empty warning." Maybe it's cuz Flemythal always helped the Warden and Hawke, and in the end, even the Inquisitor....but being bound by her will didn't sound so scary to me. Yeah, she controlled my arms to prevent Morrigan from attacking without my consent, but I can't imagine she could manage to 24/7 puppet me for the rest of my life. If she wants me to be a useful minion, seems she would actually attempt to get the Quiz on her side or just kill me and have done with it. Eh... I don't think she has to control someone 24/7 - she can just take control during something important. Imagine, for example, that Inquisitor is standing above someone, hesitating whether they should kill or not. They choose not to, only for Mythal to take over and make Inquisitor kill. That's only one from many potential scenarios. I also would like to point out that when Inquisitor asks whether she/he is now Mythal's slave, Flemeth ends her response with "I have no orders for you... Not yet" ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/CeRUIfXurYhaBmWjMBkt.png)
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Post by phoray on Jul 11, 2017 22:41:05 GMT
^^^^
So, what do you think will be canon? The quiz drinking the well or Morrigan?
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 11, 2017 23:07:53 GMT
^^^^ So, what do you think will be canon? The quiz drinking the well or Morrigan? I have no clue at this point. The story could go in so many directions it's hard to predict much. I think Morrigan is obviously groomed for... something. She is important to the plot and I don't think that her giving birth to OGB was the end of her usefulness to Mythal (especially given that she doesn't always do that). And the whole Well Of Sorrows business seems important beyond what we saw in Inquisition. But that would also suggest that Inquisitor could be used in Morrigan's stead... hmmm, would they do that? After Trespasser I'm fairly confident that Inky's story is not yet over, but would they be so bold as to push them in place of Mythal's supposed inheritor? ...Dunno about that. Maybe the matter of Well Of Sorrows will culminate in some other way? Or maybe I think it wrong and it's not Inky that would serve as replacement for Morrigan, but Morrigan is for Inky, at least from narrative's perspective? As in: there could be something that would be a mandatory step in any worldstate to go through, but Inky can decline/make bad choices/will get killed/do anything that prevents them from going through with it, and therefore Morrigan would be there to step in instead? Ergh, hard to tell.
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Post by tarotmage on Jul 12, 2017 1:31:05 GMT
The three things I would like to see most for DA4?
1) A character generator/importer like in Origins. I would have loved to have taken my canon rogue through different world states but having to remake him over and over was just not worth the trouble. I did read that there was a workaround but once they started talking about rulers and sliders and overlays my eyes glazed over.
2) Gamlen's daughter "Charade Amell" from DAII ("Gamlen's Greatest Treasure") as a party member. Since Inquisition mentions her in two war table missions ("A Trouble of Red Jennies" and "Red Jenny and the Tantervale Charade"), she can be one of the available rogues and have a different connection to Red Jenny.
3) Bianca Davri (the REAL Bianca) as another possible rogue party member. She matches (and sometimes surpasses) Varric in sass during the Valammar quest. I'd definitely love to see what she can so with her version of the crossbow she invented!
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Post by jackdruthers on Jul 12, 2017 10:47:53 GMT
Has anyone noticed that the library in the mages tower in Origins was shaped like a paw print? Wonder how many other clues we missed.
As for speculation, there are black lyrium shaped formations in The hissing Wastes and Exalted Plains, both times there are rifts/demons nearby. If these structures are dead lyrium (something that the researchers in Suledin keep said could not be destroyed) would the answer lie in making a deal with someone - Tevinter mages, Avvar mages or Spirits, to destroy it for good?
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Post by tacsear on Jul 12, 2017 15:35:31 GMT
The three things I would like to see most for DA4? 1) A character generator/importer like in Origins. I would have loved to have taken my canon rogue through different world states but having to remake him over and over was just not worth the trouble. I did read that there was a workaround but once they started talking about rulers and sliders and overlays my eyes glazed over. 2) Gamlen's daughter "Charade Amell" from DAII ("Gamlen's Greatest Treasure") as a party member. Since Inquisition mentions her in two war table missions ("A Trouble of Red Jennies" and "Red Jenny and the Tantervale Charade"), she can be one of the available rogues and have a different connection to Red Jenny. 3) Bianca Davri (the REAL Bianca) as another possible rogue party member. She matches (and sometimes surpasses) Varric in sass during the Valammar quest. I'd definitely love to see what she can so with her version of the crossbow she invented! Bianca is deeply hated among the fandom it would be a risky move. Plus Scout Harding will probably fill the place of dwarven archer in DA4
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 12, 2017 15:53:50 GMT
The three things I would like to see most for DA4? 1) A character generator/importer like in Origins. I would have loved to have taken my canon rogue through different world states but having to remake him over and over was just not worth the trouble. I did read that there was a workaround but once they started talking about rulers and sliders and overlays my eyes glazed over. 2) Gamlen's daughter "Charade Amell" from DAII ("Gamlen's Greatest Treasure") as a party member. Since Inquisition mentions her in two war table missions ("A Trouble of Red Jennies" and "Red Jenny and the Tantervale Charade"), she can be one of the available rogues and have a different connection to Red Jenny. 3) Bianca Davri (the REAL Bianca) as another possible rogue party member. She matches (and sometimes surpasses) Varric in sass during the Valammar quest. I'd definitely love to see what she can so with her version of the crossbow she invented! Bianca is deeply hated among the fandom it would be a risky move. Plus Scout Harding will probably fill the place of dwarven archer in DA4 I'm fairly certain Harding will be back and likely play a bigger role in the story, but I'm not sure she'd be a companion.
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 12, 2017 16:13:54 GMT
Has anyone noticed that the library in the mages tower in Origins was shaped like a paw print? Wonder how many other clues we missed. As for speculation, there are black lyrium shaped formations in The hissing Wastes and Exalted Plains, both times there are rifts/demons nearby. If these structures are dead lyrium (something that the researchers in Suledin keep said could not be destroyed) would the answer lie in making a deal with someone - Tevinter mages, Avvar mages or Spirits, to destroy it for good? I don't think those rocks were black lyrium - nor the glowy green rocks were green lyrium. Those are likely some sort of fade rocks - Varric mentions some of those appearing in Kirkwall in his letter in Trespasser ("And then we had rifts open, and weird glowing fade rocks appeared out there). The black rocks are likely those, but when they cease glowing. In fact, when it comes to black rocks, we see the same sort of formations appearing at the Temple Of Sacred Ashes after it was destroyed. They're also surrounding Vir Dirthara.
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Post by tacsear on Jul 12, 2017 16:14:41 GMT
Bianca is deeply hated among the fandom it would be a risky move. Plus Scout Harding will probably fill the place of dwarven archer in DA4 I'm fairly certain Harding will be back and likely play a bigger role in the story, but I'm not sure she'd be a companion. Oh I think she will be a companion for sure. She already has a background and somewhat of a developed character. Plus she is a fan favourite it'd be foolish to not use her as a companion
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Post by midnight tea on Jul 12, 2017 16:22:00 GMT
I'm fairly certain Harding will be back and likely play a bigger role in the story, but I'm not sure she'd be a companion. Oh I think she will be a companion for sure. She already has a background and somewhat of a developed character. Plus she is a fan favourite it'd be foolish to not use her as a companion Considering that Leliana grooms her as one of her successors (together with Rector and Charter, who happens to feature heavily in recent comic books) it's possible that she might be something akin of an adviser (or maybe something of a boss, who relays information from headquarters to PC), rather than a companion. But I'm not ruling out a companion - just pointing out that they might have different plans for her.
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Post by tarotmage on Jul 12, 2017 17:11:14 GMT
Bianca is deeply hated among the fandom it would be a risky move. Plus Scout Harding will probably fill the place of dwarven archer in DA4
Wow, really? I wasn't aware of that. I don't follow the DA comics/books -- did something happen that I obviously wasn't aware of?
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Post by tacsear on Jul 12, 2017 17:16:21 GMT
Bianca is deeply hated among the fandom it would be a risky move. Plus Scout Harding will probably fill the place of dwarven archer in DA4
Wow, really? I wasn't aware of that. I don't follow the DA comics/books -- did something happen that I obviously wasn't aware of?
People didn't like how she behaved in inquisition. I'm compleatly neutral towards her so someone who doesn't like her should answer that
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Post by tacsear on Jul 12, 2017 17:18:19 GMT
Oh I think she will be a companion for sure. She already has a background and somewhat of a developed character. Plus she is a fan favourite it'd be foolish to not use her as a companion Considering that Leliana grooms her as one of her successors (together with Rector and Charter, who happens to feature heavily in recent comic books) it's possible that she might be something akin of an adviser (or maybe something of a boss, who relays information from headquarters to PC), rather than a companion. But I'm not ruling out a companion - just pointing out that they might have different plans for her. Well if she isn't a companion in DA4 Bioware will receive several emails containing some very hard nsfw words
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Post by Lazarillo on Jul 12, 2017 18:04:52 GMT
Wow, really? I wasn't aware of that. I don't follow the DA comics/books -- did something happen that I obviously wasn't aware of? ![:blink:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/mYKVZsYKhOsPsltcpJZF.png) Mostly recoil, I think. The whole thing where the fantasy is always better than the reality. Bianca is built up to be this person who's really special to Varric, whose whole tale is worth telling, but which can't be due to very heart-rending reasons and stuff. Oh and she has some sort of mysterious connection to his crossbow, but which he won't actually tell anyone. Then she shows up, she's an extremely cut-and-dry archetypal "tough" woman with sassy one-liners and a "tough" parting line to remind you how "tough" she is. The whole backstory is just that she married some other guy, and the reason for the name is that she invented it but he doesn't want people to think she invented it. Basically, she goes from a tale too grand to tell, to a tale too plain to tell. It is, perhaps, realistic, but not very entertaining. I think a lot of fans enjoyed the mystique of her character more than her actual character, and really never wanted the actual character over the mystique anyway. And thus, disappointment grew into contempt.
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