Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT)

It seems he was straight. Bi Cora files were also found and never used, but his writer wrote gay Kaidan, so I think he should have (or might have) been bi from the start. She did amazing with Kaidan's romance with male Shepard and how naturally it happened. I had always hoped Jaal's would be the same with Scott. Jaal is a very open and emotional man too, so confessing love for Scott will be just beautiful!

Well I didn't play DAI, so I'm not getting the reference.  Sorry.

Dunno, but I guess bi Jaal is the closest thing in this patch to being controversial, and complaining about new stuff>beating the same dead horse.

Kaidan IS interested in femShep. Kaidan DOES reference his former attraction to a woman (Rahna). Kaidan has NO interest in Sheploo v.1.

So, no he's not 'bi' in ME1. He's a straight male. Unless you consider everyone around you 'bi' by default (if not stated otherwise).  


And even if you insist of him being The Case, I should remind you that he had survived Alchera and Horizon before proceeding to the action with Sheploo. He was not 'fixed' by a routine ME1\2\3 patch, somewhere between the MP glitches. 

Oh, is that why it is perfectly fine to refer to people as being "asshats" and think less of them simply for not sharing the same opinion as you and dreman999? How delightfully dreary an idea, darling dear.  What bout of magnificent immaturity. 

The saccharine-coated tone of passive-aggressiveness discarded, I think it's immature to label anyone who has a negative opinion of this change as an "asshat" regardless of the reason behind their dislike. You know why I dislike the change? Because it's another example of the Meta Precedence: changing a character for meta reasons regardless of how it fits with their established characterization. I didn't want Jaal to be an example of a character whose sexuality was changed in response to popular demand. I didn't want that door to be open. I wanted the characterization to be first and not second. That's why I didn't want this. It's wasn't because of homophobia, biphobia or because I just didn't want to share. 

When I disagreed with players who wanted Jaal to be bisexual, I didn't insult them because they complained and at least here they didn't insult me either. It could be nice if that maturity could be continued but apparently with some people, it ends when you disagree with them.  

You do realize that bisexual men are attracted to women, right?

If I could give you 10 thumbs up I would.  Straight females got screwed in this game.  At least in the trilogy we got Garrus and Kaidan, but wait they changed Kaidan to be bi to cater to rabid fans.  So really, we only got Garrus.  I'm really not sure how many straight females, Liam appeals to.  I think he appeals most to gay men and should have been a gay option.  Jaal doesn't appeal to me either, so they can have him too.  There are two that appeal to me, Reyes who is bi (again) and Harry who isn't romanceable.

Jaal's Bi now huh?

Worse news I've heard today. Well it seemed Jaal was finally the perfect LI for straight women no dying, no cheating ,no getting dumped. I know Sara can still romance Jaal but it's not going to be the same now.

Look at you not wanting to share your toys, so cute

Oh no, Jaal's going to tainted by dirty cock now!

My point is that if a man demonstrates an attraction to women, it does not automatically mean he is straight. So long as the question of whether or not he is attracted to men is not addressed, the possibility that he is bisexual is there. Kaidan did not answer that question until the third game. Shepard just didn't ask it in the first.