Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT)

I know a few people who would do that around here, but then again that is a best friend banter sort of thing, especially with how snide some new yorkers can be with each other. 

The only crime it has is being stereotypical in some respects id argue. Nothing wrong with stereotypes as the character of Gil actually has some depth to him, being a risk-taking gambler based on feel vs pragmatic like Jill was.

I seldom say this so bluntly but you either did not read what I wrote about the reason behind my dislike or you ignored what I wrote completely: you are pretty much assigning me the same motivation that I listed as not being why I disliked this change.

Not that it really matters, mind you. You clearly have no interest in reading what I wrote and I have no problem admitting that I have no interest in continuing words with you.  

Why do people care so much about fictional romances?

Of course, but to that then what would be an alternative to it, considering it is tied to the actual situation Gil and to an extent, the rest of the Initiative is in?

I don't know. Why do people care so much about sports? People just feel and connect strongly to certain things. I have to admit sometimes it does get out of hand, and then you just have to queue the Affleck.

no. They have to change the animation and modeling of every Asari npc in the game. Up dating a cuts can is one thing but up dating every passive face model and a animation for every person of a race is another.

You don't get it.  Liam sucks ass, probably literally considering the scene he was in with Jaal who is now bi so really we can't count Liam, he is a lousy Jacob clone.

Strong restrictions? hum no, in DAI women got to play with 4 diferent romance and they just have to choose one specifically once they choose a specific race, if they play an elf they romance solas, if they play human they romance cullen, if they play dwarf or qunari they romance blackwall or iron bull. Its not that "restrictive" they get to experince the 4 races while having a different romance each time.

I never said there is only bi with preference, I just say it is possible and that jaal might be one.

Now for jaal, how does it's characterization is less deep now that he is bissexual, how does it remove anything from him. Its not like gil who has a whole plot with raising child considering his sexuality, same for Dorian who was nearly brainwash for his homosexuality to be reversed. On those characters, yes the sexuality plays an important role in their actual story and back story.

But for jaal, what does he lose becoming bissexual? how does it affect negatively his relation with other companion, go ahead tell me I am curious.

It really doesn't change anything. I mean in your world state the romance will be same so he is still straight to your Sara. If Garrus was made bi, but had the same arc, would it have mattered? Not really. 

you're missing a lot of context there. Being that this an colonization of another galexy where they need people and it can be done with out sex,I would say it's a valid complaint. Added she does say it to straight men too.

Well, for starters, if you want to show a Vitriolic Best Friends relationship, you need to actually show the friendship part. All I saw from Jill was the vitriol part.

Alternately, they don't need to include the part about Gil making Jill's job harder. Instead he could have said something about her frustration with the Initiative's lack of resources and the resulting inability of anybody to have children. That would establish the baby subplot without dragging in a ton of homophobic baggage.

If Gil is romanced, Jill's offer is obviously supposed to be a friendly one, but what we got was, "you guys are so cute you should totes have a baby right now," which made her look like she's missing a few screws. Instead, they could have had her say "if you guys ever decide to have a kid in the future, I'll be happy to be the surrogate."

If Gil is not romanced, there should have at least been a reference to him finding a boyfriend offscreen so it didn't look like he was entering into a heterosexual relationship.

Everytime I heard "Vetra" my heart stops, my eyes are fueled by love, Vetra is one of the best romance options of the universe.
(thank the Reapers she doesn't share universe with Garrus and I don't have to chose  )