Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT)

Jun 7, 2017 21:13:12 GMT duskwanderer said:

Still crappy running animations, still Sara's creepy smile, still plastered faces on statues.

And the gays will complain about something else now. This is what happens when you try to please someone who is inherently unpleasable.

You don't sound very pleased...

I'll look past your post with the sensitivity of a half-brick to make the observation that the Jaal and Romance threads have been relative havens of joy these last 24 hours, there's a really nice atmosphere in there, unlike some of the half-baked complaining in the General forum today...

Doesn't sound to me like you've been paying attention. The complaints of wasting time on this nonsense is not "half-baked." They are quite reasonable. But what do I know?

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 21:38:05 GMT kino, cespar, and 1 more like this

Post by mikeymoonshine on Jun 7, 2017 21:38:05 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 18:49:41 GMT moderately incensed firmicute said:

Jun 7, 2017 18:41:15 GMT Fen'Harel Faceman said:

And it made lots of money, meaning Bioware doesn't have to deal with these issues and make money. That's the point.

made money by having someone do the hardest part-the writing for them. I mean yeah, white hetero cis self insert, gruffy dude who fucks all the ladies because they cant get preggers, no fucking wonder its popular with nerdy awkward dudes..can be someone, finally. and also collect raunchy images..
the world looks pretty nice, the combat is too much dancy dancy for me and it suffers from typical open world syndrome too, but people are more willing to overlook it because it caters to their desires..

well we are the same. what a surprise.

I'm sorry but isn't it kinda shitty to judge people like that? Make assumptions about them based on their interests, the way they behave, look, are perceived by others ect? I loved the Witcher 3 and I have no interest in women at all, even if I did that wouldn't be a big factor in whether or not I liked it. I imagine the same could be said for plenty of white hetero cis nerdy guys. Not everyone plays video games for some kind of "imagine if you were this cool guy" experience. Not that I am even saying there is something wrong with that it just seems like a silly thing to assume.

Also Witcher 1 is the only one with the sex cards and I am pretty sure that is the only one that wasn't a huge success, at least compared to the other two.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 21:38:44 GMT via mobile sharkboy421 likes this

Post by griffith82 on Jun 7, 2017 21:38:44 GMT

You don't sound very pleased...

I'll look past your post with the sensitivity of a half-brick to make the observation that the Jaal and Romance threads have been relative havens of joy these last 24 hours, there's a really nice atmosphere in there, unlike some of the half-baked complaining in the General forum today...

Doesn't sound to me like you've been paying attention. The complaints of wasting time on this nonsense is not "half-baked." They are quite reasonable. But what do I know?

Yesh they're something but reasonable they ain't.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 21:42:12 GMT

Post by Antibaar on Jun 7, 2017 21:42:12 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 21:26:55 GMT SofNascimento said:

"For players wanting to adjust their look mid-game, we added the ability to change your character’s appearance onboard the Tempest."

Well, at least something good came out of this.

Sounds very good. I really wanted this option in the OT too.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 21:42:31 GMT kino, dalinne, and 1 more like this

Post by SofaJockey on Jun 7, 2017 21:42:31 GMT

You don't sound very pleased...

I'll look past your post with the sensitivity of a half-brick to make the observation that the Jaal and Romance threads have been relative havens of joy these last 24 hours, there's a really nice atmosphere in there, unlike some of the half-baked complaining in the General forum today...

Doesn't sound to me like you've been paying attention. The complaints of wasting time on this nonsense is not "half-baked." They are quite reasonable. But what do I know?

As you don't know, l'll explain:

The m/m content didn't allow for the 3 romance achievement to be reached natively, as it can be for m/f and f/f, so this is essentially a bug fix.
And as the additional content doesn't impact anyone else, it's a nice improvement among the 30 or so listed items in 1.08.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 21:44:21 GMT melbella likes this

Post by Iakus on Jun 7, 2017 21:44:21 GMT

Doesn't sound to me like you've been paying attention. The complaints of wasting time on this nonsense is not "half-baked." They are quite reasonable. But what do I know?

As you don't know, l'll explain:

The m/m content didn't allow for the 3 romance achievement to be reached natively, as it can be for m/f and f/f, so this is essentially a bug fix.
And as the additional content doesn't impact anyone else, it's a nice improvement among the 30 or so listed items in 1.08.

Just want to point out

DAO's "Hopelessly Romantic" achievement was never "bug fixedt" like this.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 21:44:57 GMT decafhigh likes this

Post by revanstar on Jun 7, 2017 21:44:57 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 21:30:10 GMT decafhigh said:

Jun 7, 2017 21:26:55 GMT SofNascimento said:

"For players wanting to adjust their look mid-game, we added the ability to change your character’s appearance onboard the Tempest."

Well, at least something good came out of this.

I thought this one was good too.

"And for fans of Alec Ryder’s iconic appearance, you can now choose to keep the default Alec, rather than having his appearance be based on your custom Ryder."

The best part about this is that it ruins their previous arguments that the lack of CC options were because Alec was supposed to look like your Ryder.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 22:17:56 GMT melbella, shechinah, and 1 more like this

Post by aglomeracja on Jun 7, 2017 22:17:56 GMT

Doesn't sound to me like you've been paying attention. The complaints of wasting time on this nonsense is not "half-baked." They are quite reasonable. But what do I know?

As you don't know, l'll explain:

The m/m content didn't allow for the 3 romance achievement to be reached natively, as it can be for m/f and f/f, so this is essentially a bug fix.
And as the additional content doesn't impact anyone else, it's a nice improvement among the 30 or so listed items in 1.08.

Honestly, "they changed it because a lot of people wanted it" is a better (and good enough) argument in every way.

If it was about an achievement, they could just change required quantity to 2 and be done with it or just leave it as it is since you have way more romance options than it's necessary to accomplish it. There really is no need to pretend it's a bug fix.

Anyway, I don't care about that. The gender fluidness is crazy though.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 22:21:25 GMT cotheer and Melcara like this

Post by duskwanderer on Jun 7, 2017 22:21:25 GMT

Doesn't sound to me like you've been paying attention. The complaints of wasting time on this nonsense is not "half-baked." They are quite reasonable. But what do I know?

As you don't know, l'll explain:

The m/m content didn't allow for the 3 romance achievement to be reached natively, as it can be for m/f and f/f, so this is essentially a bug fix.
And as the additional content doesn't impact anyone else, it's a nice improvement among the 30 or so listed items in 1.08.

So...for an achievement?

Of all the stupid things you could say, this is by far the stupidiest. That is not a bug. Three different romances is just an achievement. That's it. You get achievements in Papers, Please for interesting moral dilemmas. The Stick of Truth went for some suitably epic things. And then, there are achievements that just are just hilarious, like "I swear I did it by accident!" for looking up Juliet Starling's skirt in Lollipop Chainsaw. That's all achievements are: Bonus content that takes very little effort to implement, and to appeal to those "spade" type players. I would know, I am one.

You're just proving my point with the absurdity of that community.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 22:35:18 GMT yeah rip likes this

Post by shechinah on Jun 7, 2017 22:35:18 GMT

Honestly, "they changed it because a lot of people wanted it" is a better (and good enough) argument in every way.

If it was about an achievement, they could just change required quantity to 2 and be done with it or just leave it as it is since you have way more romance options than it's necessary to accomplish it. There really is no need to pretend it's a bug fix.

Anyway, I don't care about that. The gender fluidness is crazy though.

What annoys me about that particular bit is that it feels like the asari: it's tell, not show. It feels so lazily slapped on the race. It could have been a very interesting concept to weave into an alien race but I hesitate to even say a genuine attempt was made to do so because if you didn't know what the developers had said outside of the game and you missed that one conversation in the game, you wouldn't know that the angara supposedly perceive gender as something other than two genders that remain constant. It doesn't feel like they even tried to think of how gender fluidity would influence the angara like in terms of culture and language.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:00:44 GMT Fen'Harel Faceman and yeah rip like this

Post by Iakus on Jun 7, 2017 23:00:44 GMT

Honestly, "they changed it because a lot of people wanted it" is a better (and good enough) argument in every way.

Yeah, but where was this argument five years ago?

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:03:16 GMT

Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 7, 2017 23:03:16 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 21:44:21 GMT Iakus said:

As you don't know, l'll explain:

The m/m content didn't allow for the 3 romance achievement to be reached natively, as it can be for m/f and f/f, so this is essentially a bug fix.
And as the additional content doesn't impact anyone else, it's a nice improvement among the 30 or so listed items in 1.08.

Just want to point out

DAO's "Hopelessly Romantic" achievement was never "bug fixedt" like this.

To be fair, that one impacted all players equally while MEA's only impacted one group since the other groups could get it just fine.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:04:14 GMT

Post by Iakus on Jun 7, 2017 23:04:14 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 22:35:18 GMT shechinah said:

Honestly, "they changed it because a lot of people wanted it" is a better (and good enough) argument in every way.

If it was about an achievement, they could just change required quantity to 2 and be done with it or just leave it as it is since you have way more romance options than it's necessary to accomplish it. There really is no need to pretend it's a bug fix.

Anyway, I don't care about that. The gender fluidness is crazy though.

What annoys me about that particular bit is that it feels like the asari: it's tell, not show. It feels so lazily slapped on the race. It could have been a very interesting concept to weave into an alien race but I hesitate to even say a genuine attempt was made to do so because if you didn't know what the developers had said outside of the game and you missed that one conversation in the game, you wouldn't know that the angara supposedly perceive gender as something other than two genders that remain constant. It doesn't feel like they even tried to think of how gender fluidity would influence the angara like in terms of culture and language.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:04:19 GMT

Post by linksocarina on Jun 7, 2017 23:04:19 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 23:00:44 GMT Iakus said:

Honestly, "they changed it because a lot of people wanted it" is a better (and good enough) argument in every way.

Yeah, but where was this argument five years ago?

Apples and Oranges in a lot of ways though don't you think?

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:07:04 GMT Fen'Harel Faceman, yeah rip, and 1 more like this

Post by Iakus on Jun 7, 2017 23:07:04 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 23:04:19 GMT linksocarina said:

Jun 7, 2017 23:00:44 GMT Iakus said:

Yeah, but where was this argument five years ago?

Apples and Oranges in a lot of ways though don't you think?

Not really.

You can't change things because "Artistic Integrity", remember?

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:19:53 GMT

Post by linksocarina on Jun 7, 2017 23:19:53 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 23:07:04 GMT Iakus said:

Jun 7, 2017 23:04:19 GMT linksocarina said:

Apples and Oranges in a lot of ways though don't you think?

Not really.

You can't change things because "Artistic Integrity", remember?

sure you can.

Difference is can and will.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:21:11 GMT

Post by shechinah on Jun 7, 2017 23:21:11 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 23:04:14 GMT Iakus said:

Jun 7, 2017 22:35:18 GMT shechinah said:

...

Filibuster Freefall

Nah, they didn't try enough for it to be a filibuster. At best, this is a short summary. At worst, it's a concept note and writing exercise.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:24:21 GMT

Post by Iakus on Jun 7, 2017 23:24:21 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 23:19:53 GMT linksocarina said:

Jun 7, 2017 23:07:04 GMT Iakus said:

Not really.

You can't change things because "Artistic Integrity", remember?

sure you can.

Difference is can and will.

If that's the only difference then the distinction between an apple and an orange is pretty arbitrary.

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:24:31 GMT

Post by dazk on Jun 7, 2017 23:24:31 GMT

Jun 7, 2017 8:40:49 GMT kalasaurus said:

Jun 7, 2017 8:38:48 GMT colfoley said:

Its the Marijuana Emergency SOS quest, I think there is an option where you can partake of the services.

What?! I didn't know this. Well, for a future playthrough.

I just did that scene for the 5th time and thought I'd tried all the options but didn't get that one????

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Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT) Jun 7, 2017 23:25:09 GMT

Post by Furisco on Jun 7, 2017 23:25:09 GMT