Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT)

I romanced Reyes as a female Ryder but tbh it wasn't as satisfying (story wise) as romancing squad mates, as in all other ME games. There isn't really a climax, you just kind of dance with him or something. I don't know about Gil's, bc I would never fuck that dude IRL, but he just hangs around the ship and never comes out with you to do any of the story with you. So they added a squad mate option, and now everyone has the option of a satisfying roleplay romance if that's what they're looking for. 

Frankly I have never been satisfied by romances in these games and don't always do them. In my replay of MEA I would probably romance no one. As a straight girl I would try a romance with Vetra before Liam bc ugh. But it is important to the fandom overall to have a romance that matches their IRL sexuality, and Bioware is recognizing that they didn't offer a "true" romance in the ME style to gay male players, so they fixed it.

ETA: I'm replaying the trilogy right now with a first-time romancing of Liara (Kaidan, Jacob, and Garrus previously), and with the Shadow Broker DLC included in the ME2 play I think it is the most satisfying one overall. Especially because she goes from bookish to badass. Bc Kaidan is mostly boring and on Horizon is awful to you and totally absent, and then Jacob is...Jacob, and Garrus is basically a lizard-person, so it's fine characterwise but really weird otherwise. So you have mostly awful squadmate options for straight women, but I would never complain to them about that, bc they offered me the options; I just didn't like the way they wrote the two human male characters, and the other was just too ugly and weird. It's the same with Liam in MEA: as the only human male squadmate available to a straight or bi SisRyder, he is AWFUL, I would kill him on Virmire and be alone forever. And I first romanced Jaal before Reyes and had to stop because I just did not want that sex scene in there, at least not with my first playthrough.... But if they had only offered me Reyes and Gil, and no Liam or ugly penis Jaal (who are actually part of your squad and the story), I would have been frustrated enough to at least send them a tweet saying that a Ryder w/ "my" sexuality had no real options. That's what I mean when I say it is not about changing characters' sexuality to appease player desires to romance particular characters, but to be inclusive of people they realized they accidentally excluded, so that they could at least have the option of a complete romance instead of a fling.

I keep seeing this come up, as I skim the thread; so I felt like I should address it.

This is absolutely not a pic of a CC that ever existed in the real world. This is concept art. We saw a lot of the art from this portfolio shared back in April. Many pics were posted here on the BSN. This is high-level concept work, a "what if?" type of thing for the CC. It never actually existed in this form. If you look at the image, you can see just how flat and "un-gamey" it looks.

For me? Yes.

Selective reading much? The question was "Let's make Suvi and Gil bi then - what's the big deal, they would still be into Sara and Scott respectively?"  That would be exactly the same thing they did to Jaal - a simple re-writing and ADDITION to romance-pool, not subtraction. I, for one, like Gil, my Sara would romance him, and many men would love to love Suvi.

Yet, for you turning gay character "bi" is killing gay romance, somehow "taking option away", but turning straight character bi - expanding romances.

I would prefer they fix bugs instead of changing npc's to bisexual but if they going to waste money on it anyway I say fuck it and make Suvi bisexual. I not going to hold my breath on them doing it because apparently that would take away from gay romances somehow. 

I haven't installed the patch so far. But seeing as there's still the bitching about gay, bi, straight going on, I guess I have to find other places to look if it makes or breaks certain aspects of the game.

There's another thread about characters suddenly having no voice. Something on these lines would certainly be more interesting.

Nope, that still isn't actually pale. It's lighter than what we had before, but only slightly. The only pale complexion is the one with freckles and ginger eyebrows.

If you go into the CC and flip between the complexions you can tell a big difference between Complexion 10 and the others.  All the others are tinted yellow or brown, complexion 10 is the only "Caucasian" one.  And its ginger.  Now sure why Bioware gets so stubborn about these things or why just having a normal looking caucasian woman in the game is such a horrible thing to them.

I did, and like I said all the other skin textures have a deep yellow or brown tint to them, even the default skin.  Guess I'll just have to wait and see if mod'ers can save the day and come up with some new skin textures since BW seems adamant not to do it.