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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 9, 2017 14:04:00 GMT
I don't know... Complexion 9 with the skin tone set to 0.00 is pretty damn pale. If you go into the CC and flip between the complexions you can tell a big difference between Complexion 10 and the others. All the others are tinted yellow or brown, complexion 10 is the only "Caucasian" one. And its ginger. Now sure why Bioware gets so stubborn about these things or why just having a normal looking caucasian woman in the game is such a horrible thing to them. Just curious, are you giving credence to some mild SJW anti-white leanings in the design or do you think it's just more about poor variability in design choice due to human error/oversight?
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Post by decafhigh on Jun 9, 2017 14:09:57 GMT
If you go into the CC and flip between the complexions you can tell a big difference between Complexion 10 and the others. All the others are tinted yellow or brown, complexion 10 is the only "Caucasian" one. And its ginger. Now sure why Bioware gets so stubborn about these things or why just having a normal looking caucasian woman in the game is such a horrible thing to them. Just curious, are you giving credence to some mild SJW anti-white leanings in the design or do you think it's just more about poor variability in design choice due to human error/oversight? I suppose given how a lot of MEA turned out I can't completely rule out incompetence. They showed with the new preset that they can do a regular Caucasian skin if they want to, just not sure why they chose to cover the entire face in freckles. Was it just a miscalculation or BW giving those that complained the finger? Not sure I can answer that. I don't however just chalk it up to oversight. A basic normal looking Caucasian skin texture isn't some pie in the sky request or out of the norm thing to have in the video game. Its absence was definitely intentional.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 9, 2017 14:12:36 GMT
Just curious, are you giving credence to some mild SJW anti-white leanings in the design or do you think it's just more about poor variability in design choice due to human error/oversight? I suppose given how a lot of MEA turned out I can't completely rule out incompetence. They showed with the new preset that they can do a regular Caucasian skin if they want to, just not sure why they chose to cover the entire face in freckles. Was it just a miscalculation or BW giving those that complained the finger? Not sure I can answer that. I don't however just chalk it up to oversight. A basic normal looking Caucasian skin texture isn't some pie in the sky request or out of the norm thing to have in the video game. Its absence was definitely intentional.I tend to agree with you on this.
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 9, 2017 14:18:50 GMT
Any fix for SP? Earn your Badge bugged for FemRyder, Peebee: The Museum Trip missing mail, Task: Better Crafting ? Or are they still broken? I'd heard these are fixed, but I've yet to verify them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 14:33:26 GMT
The only question I have is the X5 Ghost fixed? Meaning can we deconstruct the thing now? I'm not able to play for a couple of days.
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Post by Elfen Lied on Jun 9, 2017 14:36:52 GMT
Any fix for SP? Earn your Badge bugged for FemRyder, Peebee: The Museum Trip missing mail, Task: Better Crafting ? Or are they still broken? I'd heard these are fixed, That would be cool. If that's the case I just wonder why they didn't mention the SP fixes in any patch note... At the moment I am just interested in Earn your Badge, but I am not going back to the Nexus just to check it. It will have to wait until I have collected some other stuff to do there..
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Post by FemShepard'sPie on Jun 9, 2017 15:20:06 GMT
Quick vid for those wondering about how to start character appearance changes mid-game and where to go.
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Post by yeah rip on Jun 9, 2017 15:49:01 GMT
Just curious, are you giving credence to some mild SJW anti-white leanings in the design or do you think it's just more about poor variability in design choice due to human error/oversight? I suppose given how a lot of MEA turned out I can't completely rule out incompetence. They showed with the new preset that they can do a regular Caucasian skin if they want to, just not sure why they chose to cover the entire face in freckles. Was it just a miscalculation or BW giving those that complained the finger? Not sure I can answer that. I don't however just chalk it up to oversight. A basic normal looking Caucasian skin texture isn't some pie in the sky request or out of the norm thing to have in the video game. Its absence was definitely intentional. There's a chance that they were so eager to represent many skin colors that they just forgot to include even one "caucasian" preset, but, well... I don't think even MEA team would be that incompetent, so I'm also on the "intentional" side.
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Post by mikeymoonshine on Jun 9, 2017 15:56:34 GMT
I'm sorry but isn't it kinda shitty to judge people like that? Make assumptions about them based on their interests, the way they behave, look, are perceived by others ect? I loved the Witcher 3 and I have no interest in women at all, even if I did that wouldn't be a big factor in whether or not I liked it. I imagine the same could be said for plenty of white hetero cis nerdy guys. Not everyone plays video games for some kind of "imagine if you were this cool guy" experience. Not that I am even saying there is something wrong with that it just seems like a silly thing to assume. Also Witcher 1 is the only one with the sex cards and I am pretty sure that is the only one that wasn't a huge success, at least compared to the other two. sorry but the mc of Witcher is pure male power fantasy. Not like I have an issue with it (looks at shepard) but I would like to actually make my character then be stuck with only one and being nice or mean. That doesn't really address my point. I don't care if something is a "male power fantasy" or not. I also prefer creating my own character, the witcher trilogy is about Geralt tho, that's kind of the whole point of it. Cyberpunk2077 will have a character creator, other future CDPR games may also, who knows.
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Post by warrior on Jun 9, 2017 16:27:15 GMT
Because this patch is about adding options for players, not taking options away. To change a gay character to straight or a straight character to gay (eliminating options) is not the same as changing a straight character to bi (adding options). In one, another romance is added; in another, it is removed. In one, fluidity is easily explained (many people are gender fluid or sexually fluid without ever even acting on that); in another case, it makes no actual sense -- why would you change a gay character straight and delete an option? And a lot of people who are bi or even gay grow up thinking they are straight and even have long-term same-sex relationships and realize later that they were in denial about being queer Selective reading much? The question was "Let's make Suvi and Gil bi then - what's the big deal, they would still be into Sara and Scott respectively?" That would be exactly the same thing they did to Jaal - a simple re-writing and ADDITION to romance-pool, not subtraction. I, for one, like Gil, my Sara would romance him, and many men would love to love Suvi. Yet, for you turning gay character "bi" is killing gay romance, somehow "taking option away", but turning straight character bi - expanding romances. No I did misread your post a bit, making Suvi bi for ex is fine w/ me. However, that would be done to appease straight male players who already have several options and just like Suvi or her appearance, and this was simply about adding an actual squadmate option for gay male players.
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 9, 2017 16:47:25 GMT
sorry but the mc of Witcher is pure male power fantasy. Not like I have an issue with it (looks at shepard) but I would like to actually make my character then be stuck with only one and being nice or mean. That doesn't really address my point. I don't care if something is a "male power fantasy" or not. I also prefer creating my own character, the witcher trilogy is about Geralt tho, that's kind of the whole point of it. Cyberpunk2077 will have a character creator, other future CDPR games may also, who knows. Me 1-3 is about Shepard but I hand way more freedom with Shepard's developmentioned which a major counter point to the "Witcher is about geralt" excuse.
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 9, 2017 16:48:55 GMT
I suppose given how a lot of MEA turned out I can't completely rule out incompetence. They showed with the new preset that they can do a regular Caucasian skin if they want to, just not sure why they chose to cover the entire face in freckles. Was it just a miscalculation or BW giving those that complained the finger? Not sure I can answer that. I don't however just chalk it up to oversight. A basic normal looking Caucasian skin texture isn't some pie in the sky request or out of the norm thing to have in the video game. Its absence was definitely intentional. There's a chance that they were so eager to represent many skin colors that they just forgot to include even one "caucasian" preset, but, well... I don't think even MEA team would be that incompetent, so I'm also on the "intentional" side. pale white is caucasian? I thought that was albino or sickly.
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Post by sageoflife on Jun 9, 2017 16:51:32 GMT
There's a chance that they were so eager to represent many skin colors that they just forgot to include even one "caucasian" preset, but, well... I don't think even MEA team would be that incompetent, so I'm also on the "intentional" side. pale white is caucasian? I thought that was albino or sickly. I thought it was Irish, and I have living relatives who remember when we weren't considered Caucasian.
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Post by yeah rip on Jun 9, 2017 17:02:14 GMT
There's a chance that they were so eager to represent many skin colors that they just forgot to include even one "caucasian" preset, but, well... I don't think even MEA team would be that incompetent, so I'm also on the "intentional" side. pale white is caucasian? I thought that was albino or sickly. Well, perfectly healthy and non-albino pale people are a thing.
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Post by Melcara on Jun 9, 2017 17:03:51 GMT
There's a chance that they were so eager to represent many skin colors that they just forgot to include even one "caucasian" preset, but, well... I don't think even MEA team would be that incompetent, so I'm also on the "intentional" side. pale white is caucasian? I thought that was albino or sickly. I guess I'm a sickly brunette albino, then.
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Post by decafhigh on Jun 9, 2017 17:04:49 GMT
pale white is caucasian? I thought that was albino or sickly. Well, perfectly healthy and non-albino pale people are a thing. That yellow Jaundice look seems far more sickly to me than pale white. Yeah I'd like to have a rosy or beige skin texture as well, but that would be like wishing for the stars at this point.
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Post by aglomeracja on Jun 9, 2017 17:05:44 GMT
Am I the only one who'd prefer to #MakeSuviMute instead of "bi"?
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Post by yeah rip on Jun 9, 2017 17:12:07 GMT
Don't know when I'll get a chance to update or if I even want to, so I would also like to know about Earn Your Badge task. Let me be Andraknor's sister dammit! pale white is caucasian? I thought that was albino or sickly. I guess I'm a sickly brunette albino, then. Same, bruh decafhigh yeah, the "light" skin in some presets does look a bit icteric. Poor Ryder must have caught hepatitis at some point before the journey.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 17:13:48 GMT
Don't know when I'll get a chance to update or if I even want to, so I would also like to know about Earn Your Badge task. Let me be Andraknor's sister dammit! I guess I'm a sickly brunette albino, then. Same, bruh Me too lol
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Post by mykaeru on Jun 9, 2017 17:34:52 GMT
Does anyone know if when I do facial reconstruction and change my character's preset or complexion, does Alec Ryder's preset change at the same time ? Or does it stay the same ? I am wondering, because my dad had dark skin and I had white skin, which looked like I was adopted.
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Post by warrior on Jun 9, 2017 17:38:32 GMT
Am I the only one who'd prefer to #MakeSuviMute instead of "bi"? No, I can't stand her.
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 9, 2017 19:07:13 GMT
pale white is caucasian? I thought that was albino or sickly. I thought it was Irish, and I have living relatives who remember when we weren't considered Caucasian. lol...OK you win.
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 9, 2017 19:09:43 GMT
pale white is caucasian? I thought that was albino or sickly. Well, perfectly healthy and non-albino pale people are a thing. that may be the reason why ryder dies in 5 secs if their environmental support system fails.
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Post by Element Zero on Jun 9, 2017 19:16:58 GMT
I keep seeing this come up, as I skim the thread; so I felt like I should address it. This is absolutely not a pic of a CC that ever existed in the real world. This is concept art. We saw a lot of the art from this portfolio shared back in April. Many pics were posted here on the BSN. This is high-level concept work, a "what if?" type of thing for the CC. It never actually existed in this form. If you look at the image, you can see just how flat and "un-gamey" it looks. I"m aware of that. I'm talking about the level of ambition on Bioware's part, not about downgrading. Got it. I don't really consider early concepts as equating to design ambitions, but YMMV. Other posts seemed less clear about the nature of the image.
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Post by Element Zero on Jun 9, 2017 19:21:32 GMT
The only question I have is the X5 Ghost fixed? Meaning can we deconstruct the thing now? I'm not able to play for a couple of days. I asked the same a couple of pages ago. It also needs either +1 augmentation slot or the removal of its Research costs. As it is, it's a good gun that doesn't follow the Common/Rare/Ultra-Rare "rules" that other weapons follow.
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