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Post by ashkevronangel on Jun 10, 2017 0:49:13 GMT
Patch 1.08 got me to finally buy the game. I've been playing this series for ten years and now I finally get to have a cool alien love interest like everyone else and I can do it while having great hair. Feels great!
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Post by dazk on Jun 10, 2017 1:06:45 GMT
So can you change the appearance of an already created character with the patch ? I only mucked around with it quickly yesterday but yes you are able to.
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Post by blanks on Jun 10, 2017 1:12:31 GMT
Some of you twitter users should hit up the BW folks asking when the bulk of the CC Overhaul is coming. Yep, if this is it then I'm feeling really underwhelmed.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 10, 2017 2:06:21 GMT
Anyone know if this fixed Earn your badge for Sara?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 2:19:15 GMT
Anyone know if this fixed Earn your badge for Sara? People have said it is.
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 10, 2017 2:56:44 GMT
Anyone know if this fixed Earn your badge for Sara? People have said it is. Sweet.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 4:29:20 GMT
Some of you twitter users should hit up the BW folks asking when the bulk of the CC Overhaul is coming. Yep, if this is it then I'm feeling really underwhelmed. Underwhelmed is a massive understatement. What we got is just down right sad.
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Post by duckley on Jun 10, 2017 5:52:10 GMT
Has the font been fixed? Larger? Clearer? Less Green? There is a lot of reading in the game and I had to skip most of it in my first play through because it was so hard to see...
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Post by melbella on Jun 10, 2017 5:57:17 GMT
Has the font been fixed? Larger? Clearer? Less Green? There is a lot of reading in the game and I had to skip most of it in my first play through because it was so hard to see... I think they made it a bit bigger in the last patch, 1.06?
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Post by zarmor on Jun 10, 2017 6:32:07 GMT
"We’ve expanded the options available in the character Creator"
Sorry to ask, but what are the options that were added, apart for the interchangeable Male/female hair ?
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 10, 2017 10:30:24 GMT
I decided to do a new play through on ps4 pro. When you should see Habitat 7 for the first time, now it's just a black screen and no scourge. All you see is a hologram of Habitat 7. So, when Gunn says "My god. Is that our golden world?" It's just a black screen behind the hologram. I don't know if its intentional, but it's a bit jarring considering that your supposed to see a planet and the scourge. So, what a surprise 1.08 introduces a new bug...
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Post by malgus on Jun 10, 2017 11:07:11 GMT
Because this patch is about adding options for players, not taking options away. To change a gay character to straight or a straight character to gay (eliminating options) is not the same as changing a straight character to bi (adding options). In one, another romance is added; in another, it is removed. In one, fluidity is easily explained (many people are gender fluid or sexually fluid without ever even acting on that); in another case, it makes no actual sense -- why would you change a gay character straight and delete an option? And a lot of people who are bi or even gay grow up thinking they are straight and even have long-term same-sex relationships and realize later that they were in denial about being queer Selective reading much? The question was "Let's make Suvi and Gil bi then - what's the big deal, they would still be into Sara and Scott respectively?" That would be exactly the same thing they did to Jaal - a simple re-writing and ADDITION to romance-pool, not subtraction. I, for one, like Gil, my Sara would romance him, and many men would love to love Suvi. Yet, for you turning gay character "bi" is killing gay romance, somehow "taking option away", but turning straight character bi - expanding romances. Nope, as I said before with you, jaal as never been said to be straight, he could easily be a bissexual with preference for women, he may not have been into man at this point but he could easily discover his bissexuality with scott ryder, he is only 27 years old many people discover their bissexuality when they are older than that. We had no possibility to know exactly his sexual orientation because we could not ask jaal as a male ryder if he was interested in a relationship. Its not about changing him with this patch its about that now we know how he would react with scott ryder telling him he was interested, something we did not had before. But for gil and suvy, that is completely different since they clearly said they are not interested if a ryder from a different gender ask them for. That is changing who they are because they say they don't want to be with a ryder that do not share their gender, jaal never refused scott ryder, simply because we had no possibility to ask him and push for a relationship, he could not refuse when nobody was asking. By the way Gil as a complete arc about him and the child jil wants him to raise and that became more complex with his sexuality. Jaal on the other hand, we could just never know because scott did not even had the possbility.
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Post by yeah rip on Jun 10, 2017 12:40:08 GMT
Selective reading much? The question was "Let's make Suvi and Gil bi then - what's the big deal, they would still be into Sara and Scott respectively?" That would be exactly the same thing they did to Jaal - a simple re-writing and ADDITION to romance-pool, not subtraction. I, for one, like Gil, my Sara would romance him, and many men would love to love Suvi. Yet, for you turning gay character "bi" is killing gay romance, somehow "taking option away", but turning straight character bi - expanding romances. Nope, as I said before with you, jaal as never been said to be straight, he could easily be a bissexual with preference for women, he may not have been into man at this point but he could easily discover his bissexuality with scott ryder, he is only 27 years old many people discover their bissexuality when they are older than that. We had no possibility to know exactly his sexual orientation because we could not ask jaal as a male ryder if he was interested in a relationship. Its not about changing him with this patch its about that now we know how he would react with scott ryder telling him he was interested, something we did not had before. But for gil and suvy, that is completely different since they clearly said they are not interested if a ryder from a different gender ask them for. That is changing who they are because they say they don't want to be with a ryder that do not share their gender, jaal never refused scott ryder, simply because we had no possibility to ask him and push for a relationship, he could not refuse when nobody was asking. By the way Gil as a complete arc about him and the child jil wants him to raise and that became more complex with his sexuality. Jaal on the other hand, we could just never know because scott did not even had the possbility. Ah, the good old playersexuality. You would have a point If there was any hint that he was at least somewhat interested in men. This isn't real life, it's fiction, and in fiction, there needs to be at least something that would lead up to the change, otherwise it's comes out of the left field. They could have at least made his content more "even", but they still chose to give him all those flirty lines with the ladies, and only ladies. Also - Suvi may not have been into men at this point but she could easily discover her bisexuality with Scott Ryder. Gil may not have been into women at this point but he could easily discover his bisexuality with Sara Ryder. Would that be okay? I know Gil explicitly said that he was interested in men, but how could he have known if he hadn't discovered his bisexuality yet? And Suvi never explicitly stated that she was only interested in women, she rejects Scott on the basis of keeping things professional. Just in case, I don't support changing any character's sexuality, I'm just making a point. The only way it would work would be with a proper build-up and not in a patch. From what I heard, Scott was supposed to have a flirt with Jaal and get rejected, but it was bugged I guess. Don't quote me on that though. It doesn't matter anyway - if he was straight at the release, then he should have stayed straight at least until the next installment. Which still wouldn't work because in the span of the game, he had shown no signs that he was interested in the same sex at all. Changing him in a patch is just a disgrace. I haven't seen any hint that Gil would become more complex with his sexuality - his "family" with Jill means that he wants to be a part of Jill's and his kid's lives instead of just being a sperm donor, it doesn't mean he would start sleeping with Jill. And didn't you just say that Gil is "different" from Jaal in that way because he explicitly stated that he's only into men?
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Post by abaris on Jun 10, 2017 12:44:31 GMT
Isn't bitching about gay/bi/straight options getting boring by now?
I'm interested in what the patch does to other people's games. And one has to wade through all that old hat to find even one informative post.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 12:52:14 GMT
"We’ve expanded the options available in the character Creator" Sorry to ask, but what are the options that were added, apart for the interchangeable Male/female hair ? They added a new preset and one hair style.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 12:58:20 GMT
Isn't bitching about gay/bi/straight options getting boring by now? I'm interested in what the patch does to other people's games. And one has to wade through all that old hat to find even one informative post. Because this patch is underwhelming for their "big patch". It feels like they was too busy jerking off the LGBT community they forgot the rest of the patch
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Post by abaris on Jun 10, 2017 13:00:59 GMT
Because this patch is underwhelming for their "big patch". It feels like they was too busy jerking off the LGBT community they forgot the rest of the patch Yeah, I get that people feel that patch is underwhelming. But I want to know what it actually does or possibly damages, not the brainfarts of people beating a dead horse.
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Post by sil on Jun 10, 2017 13:02:41 GMT
Also - Suvi may not have been into men at this point but she could easily discover her bisexuality with Scott Ryder. Gil may not have been into women at this point but he could easily discover his bisexuality with Sara Ryder. Would that be okay? Considering they are video game characters in what amounts to a power fantasy for any and all genders, then it wouldn't matter in the slightest. I'd be happy for that, I'd be happy if they were all just playersexual, just to shut these bloody frustrating and repetitive discussions up. But so you realise, people can think they are one sexuality and understand over time that they are not the way they thought. In my old job there was a man who was gay, who told us he was gay, and he would show up to work parties with his gay partner. He was in his 40's I think, yet he ended up having an affair with a woman and ended up marrying her. Which was totally unexpected when it first appeared, but it does show that sexuality isn't as clear cut as people often believe. So do I have a problem with someone discovering being bisexual at a later date? Of course not. If they are happy, then they should go with it. Do I have a problem with a video game character having more romance options so any and all players can have the ingame romance that they really want, then by all means! I'm all for it! More people will be happy at having the option than those who aren't, and frankly, in this day and age where everything is uncertain and everything feels like its going down the pan, it'd be nice to see something that makes as many people content as they can. If that means changing a video game romance, I'm all for it. I probably wouldn't have written so much if I wasn't so pissed off with constant bickering about this and the double standards that are so frequently displayed.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 13:20:01 GMT
Honestly Bioware should just make characters player sexual for now on just to get everyone to shut up. I do side more with people who say they shouldn't have changed Jaal to bi over some people being such snowflakes they refuse to romance someone different or play as a character of a different gender for a stupid fucking trophy. I don't want to romance Vetra so if I ever want that trophy I'll have to play as Sara to romance Suvi or suck it up and romance Vetra and I expect Bioware to bend over backwards to make Suvi bi.
I doubt so many would care if Bioware patched more important stuff and actually Improved on CC. I know I wouldn't.
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Post by malgus on Jun 10, 2017 13:26:46 GMT
Ah, the good old playersexuality. You would have a point If there was any hint that he was at least somewhat interested in men. This isn't real life, it's fiction, and in fiction, there needs to be at least something that would lead up to the change, otherwise it's comes out of the left field. They could have at least made his content more "even", but they still chose to give him all those flirty lines with the ladies, and only ladies. Also - Suvi may not have been into men at this point but she could easily discover her bisexuality with Scott Ryder. Gil may not have been into women at this point but he could easily discover his bisexuality with Sara Ryder. Would that be okay? I know Gil explicitly said that he was interested in men, but how could he have known if he hadn't discovered his bisexuality yet? And Suvi never explicitly stated that she was only interested in women, she rejects Scott on the basis of keeping things professional. Just in case, I don't support changing any character's sexuality, I'm just making a point. The only way it would work would be with a proper build-up and not in a patch. From what I heard, Scott was supposed to have a flirt with Jaal and get rejected, but it was bugged I guess. Don't quote me on that though. It doesn't matter anyway - if he was straight at the release, then he should have stayed straight at least until the next installment. Which still wouldn't work because in the span of the game, he had shown no signs that he was interested in the same sex at all. Changing him in a patch is just a disgrace. I haven't seen any hint that Gil would become more complex with his sexuality - his "family" with Jill means that he wants to be a part of Jill's and his kid's lives instead of just being a sperm donor, it doesn't mean he would start sleeping with Jill. And didn't you just say that Gil is "different" from Jaal in that way because he explicitly stated that he's only into men? No there is no needs to reveal everything from the start, writers can decide to surprise us, they can decide that character knows something we don't know, writer can decide that the sexuality of a character should not be in your face. Some traits of characterisation are only discovered when a specific situation happens, some characters just keep things for themselves and do not reveal their pedigree. They don,t have to expose their sexuality, since when a writer cannnot keep it as a surprise? Oh and the fact that he only flirts with woman does not mean anything. From what I remember vetra only flirted or alludes to attraction to woman, even if she is bissexual. Which could easily means she is bi with preference for woman, which is totally possible, and you might not have know she is into man until you actually push for a romance as scott ryder. The difference is here is that you have the possibility to push for a relation with her, something you did not had with jaal. Actually you know what, its possible that jaal KNOWS he is bissexual with a preference for woman before we met him, it just never happen that he had a sexual encounter with a man to that point, that is totally possible too., knowing you are bissexual doesn ot mean you had experience with both gender, especially if you have a preference. And no gil and jaal are not the fucking same, jaal does not refuse a relation with scott ryder because scott does not have the possibility to ask him anything about it. Gil says clearly that he is not interested in women. By the way, yes suvi refuse scott advances saying its professional reason, but its almost certainly that it is to not hurt his feelings. Because she is more responsive to sara ryder declaration, which means if its a man asking to go out with her, she is not interested, but she definetely is if its a woman. So we know what happens if a male ask her and when a female does. Insisting on trying on a relation with them would be sexual harassment, if someone tells you he or she is not interested, they are ot interested end of the line. But if you never asked someone, you could not know about it. Jaal never explicity says is sexuality, gil and suvi tells you they don't want to be with someone who does not share their gender, that is the difference. Itsn ot aobut discovering their bissexuality because they tell you they are not interested, jaal never told this to scott ryder.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 10, 2017 13:53:54 GMT
Honestly Bioware should just make characters player sexual for now on just to get everyone to shut up. I do side more with people who say they shouldn't have changed Jaal to bi over some people being such snowflakes they refuse to romance someone different or play as a character of a different gender for a stupid fucking trophy. I don't want to romance Vetra so if I ever want that trophy I'll have to play as Sara to romance Suvi or suck it up and romance Vetra and I expect Bioware to bend over backwards to make Suvi bi. I doubt so many would care if Bioware patched more important stuff and actually Improved on CC. I know I wouldn't. You could get the trophy (that's what I did, I still had to do one more play through though to get the platinum) by romancing/cheating with the Asari reporter during the Path of a Hero quest line; that counts towards the trophy, regardless of gender.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 10, 2017 14:00:07 GMT
I decided to do a new play through on ps4 pro. When you should see Habitat 7 for the first time, now it's just a black screen and no scourge. All you see is a hologram of Habitat 7. So, when Gunn says "My god. Is that our golden world?" It's just a black screen behind the hologram. I don't know if its intentional, but it's a bit jarring considering that your supposed to see a planet and the scourge. So, what a surprise 1.08 introduces a new bug... I had that happen in a couple of my playthroughs before patch 1.08. I just started a new game with the patch on my ps4. It showed Hab 7 and the scourge. I used the preset 10. I like the freckles, but dad looked....... I will most likely delete this game and start new using preset 9.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 14:09:08 GMT
Honestly Bioware should just make characters player sexual for now on just to get everyone to shut up. I do side more with people who say they shouldn't have changed Jaal to bi over some people being such snowflakes they refuse to romance someone different or play as a character of a different gender for a stupid fucking trophy. I don't want to romance Vetra so if I ever want that trophy I'll have to play as Sara to romance Suvi or suck it up and romance Vetra and I expect Bioware to bend over backwards to make Suvi bi. I doubt so many would care if Bioware patched more important stuff and actually Improved on CC. I know I wouldn't. You could get the trophy (that's what I did, I still had to do one more play through though to get the platinum) by romancing/cheating with the Asari reporter during the Path of a Hero quest line; that counts towards the trophy, regardless of gender. Thanks I'll romance her if I decide to play this game again.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 10, 2017 14:10:28 GMT
Bioware should not make player sexual LIs, some people just need to deal with the fact their fictional crush isn't into them and move on.
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Post by decafhigh on Jun 10, 2017 14:13:12 GMT
Honestly Bioware should just make characters player sexual for now on just to get everyone to shut up. Definitely agree with that. Having all the LI's player sexual solves all these kind of problems.
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