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Post by yeah rip on Jun 10, 2017 14:34:08 GMT
Nah, I'll take diversity and debates over a "happy medium" like that any day. Bioware just needs do better with the quantity and quality of the romances, and the fans need to deal with the fact that they can't always get what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 14:35:43 GMT
Interestingly enough Jaal is the first bisexual LI in BW to have a non-copy and paste romance. Would be nice if that's continued in future games.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 10, 2017 14:41:42 GMT
Nah, I'll take diversity and debates over a "happy medium" like that any day. Bioware just needs do better with the quantity and quality of the romances, and the fans need to deal with the fact that they can't always get what they want. Unless they create a hashtag.
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 10, 2017 14:52:23 GMT
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Post by Wulfram on Jun 10, 2017 15:25:46 GMT
Even just looking at the skin selections is a little ridiculous. There is only 1 white skin and it is covered with freckles. Is it really too much to want another white skin without the freckles considering we have 9 variations for yellow and brown? You have a weirdly limited definition of white I mean, if you want more pale/ruddy complexions that's fine, but there are clearly multiple options for white people
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Post by Garo on Jun 10, 2017 15:42:11 GMT
Still can't change eyebrows, eye shape etc. Changes are made, but for the time they spend doing this patch I expected more... Oh wait that's right, they spend most of that time making Jaal bi Because That Was Really Important Issue That Had To Be Solved.Also I kinda laughed at BW attempt on making rest of the heads more "attractive". Keep trying BW.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jun 10, 2017 15:44:39 GMT
Even just looking at the skin selections is a little ridiculous. There is only 1 white skin and it is covered with freckles. Is it really too much to want another white skin without the freckles considering we have 9 variations for yellow and brown? You have a weirdly limited definition of white I mean, if you want more pale/ruddy complexions that's fine, but there are clearly multiple options for white people In my circle of friends I'm the only one who has that very pale/pinkish tone of skin, yet most of us have Swedish ancestry harking back at least a couple of hundred years. Can't wait to tell them I'm the only true "white" one in the group!
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Post by simit on Jun 10, 2017 15:49:26 GMT
so has anyone said it yet?
man what a gay patch
ohh cmon i i know u was thinking it
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Post by duckley on Jun 10, 2017 15:57:59 GMT
Has the font been fixed? Larger? Clearer? Less Green? There is a lot of reading in the game and I had to skip most of it in my first play through because it was so hard to see... I think they made it a bit bigger in the last patch, 1.06? I just started a new game - and it is still a struggle to read the stuff you see lying around. Text still seems to be on a green background with small font. I still need to leave my chair to read it or squint. I wear glasses - but don't have this issue with other games so it is weird. I wonder if it improves later on???
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Post by dreman999 on Jun 10, 2017 16:16:49 GMT
Me 1-3 is about Shepard but I hand way more freedom with Shepard's developmentioned which a major counter point to the "Witcher is about geralt" excuse. Geralt is a character from a book series who has a specific look, personality, personal history ect. Shepard wasn't, Shepard was designed to be customiseable so no, not much of a counterpoint at all. they really did not need to do that. People like making their own character.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 16:28:35 GMT
Still can't change eyebrows, eye shape etc. Changes are made, but for the time they spend doing this patch I expected more... Oh wait that's right, they spend most of that time making Jaal bi Because That Was Really Important Issue That Had To Be Solved.Also I kinda laughed at BW attempt on making rest of the heads more "attractive". Keep trying BW. It might be that giving access to those things would require a rewrite of the code, and that could take a lot of time and resources. Not that i am defending the character creator, it is a disappointment, but it might be beyond a full makeover.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 16:50:58 GMT
Nah, I'll take diversity and debates over a "happy medium" like that any day. Bioware just needs do better with the quantity and quality of the romances, and the fans need to deal with the fact that they can't always get what they want. Nah I prefer they go player sexual. No matter how good the romance options are someone is going to cry they can't romance npc x and Bioware should drop everything to please them. Romance in these games are not so good they are worth that headache.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 16:52:37 GMT
Nah, I'll take diversity and debates over a "happy medium" like that any day. Bioware just needs do better with the quantity and quality of the romances, and the fans need to deal with the fact that they can't always get what they want. Unless they create a hashtag. Can we get #MakeSuviBi trending?
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Jun 10, 2017 16:58:50 GMT
Unless they create a hashtag. Can we get #MakeSuviBi trending?
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Can we get #MakeSuviBi trending?
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Post by timebean on Jun 10, 2017 17:25:43 GMT
So...late to the party...but from a few pages back... "Ginger" is considered a bad the thing to say? Really? Where I hear ginger, I immediately think of this awesome friggen song. And of some of the hottest dudes on earth... My favorite NPC that dies too soon... And one of my favorite medieval monarchs As well as some of my best friends. [Sorry...no pic for ya] Whenever I try to go ginger, it turns out something like this... I always wanted to be ginger. And now I hear it is a bad word. Goddammit.
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Post by melbella on Jun 10, 2017 17:38:49 GMT
Isn't bitching about gay/bi/straight options getting boring by now? I'm interested in what the patch does to other people's games. And one has to wade through all that old hat to find even one informative post. Because this patch is underwhelming for their "big patch". It feels like they was too busy jerking off the LGBT community they forgot the rest of the patch Yeah, I get that people feel that patch is underwhelming. But I want to know what it actually does or possibly damages, not the brainfarts of people beating a dead horse.
Yeah, a full list of the bug fixes would be nice. I've yet to see one and nobody who knows seems to care enough to post it.
I have seen elsewhere that a new issue has cropped up: TAB no longer works to take you out of menu maze so now PCers will have to hit ESC 9000 times to get back to the game.
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Post by Elfen Lied on Jun 10, 2017 17:41:59 GMT
Honestly Bioware should just make characters player sexual for now on just to get everyone to shut up. Definitely agree with that. Having all the LI's player sexual solves all these kind of problems. Nope, they tried that approach with DA2 and then lots of people complained that it was silly and unrealistic, and that they should give different sexualities to LIs.
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 10, 2017 17:49:55 GMT
Honestly Bioware should just make characters player sexual for now on just to get everyone to shut up. Definitely agree with that. Having all the LI's player sexual solves all these kind of problems. And introduces others. DA2 tried this, and it wasn't popular.
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Post by alanc9 on Jun 10, 2017 17:55:10 GMT
Still can't change eyebrows, eye shape etc. Changes are made, but for the time they spend doing this patch I expected more... Oh wait that's right, they spend most of that time making Jaal bi Because That Was Really Important Issue That Had To Be Solved.Also I kinda laughed at BW attempt on making rest of the heads more "attractive". Keep trying BW. It might be that giving access to those things would require a rewrite of the code, and that could take a lot of time and resources. Not that i am defending the character creator, it is a disappointment, but it might be beyond a full makeover. More importantly, a lot of the Jaal work came from people who don't have the skillsets to fix the other stuff. Except the bit of new animation work, but that isn't enough dev time to make anyone notice that you'd fixed anything.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Jun 10, 2017 18:04:41 GMT
Unless they create a hashtag. Can we get #MakeSuviBi trending? Why not? It's just extra content, not taking anything away from anyone, right? Let's do it.
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Post by yeah rip on Jun 10, 2017 18:05:15 GMT
Basically, people won't be happy either way, so might as well just stick to the diverse cast. Buttt, if Bioware can be so easily influenced to changing characters under the fans' pressure, then it would probably for the best to just make the LIs playersexual, would save the devs some money and effort they'd have to spend on "improving" them, and will spare some sensitive souls the agony of not getting the LI that they wanted. Isn't bitching about gay/bi/straight options getting boring by now? I'm interested in what the patch does to other people's games. And one has to wade through all that old hat to find even one informative post. Yeah, I get that people feel that patch is underwhelming. But I want to know what it actually does or possibly damages, not the brainfarts of people beating a dead horse.
Yeah, a full list of the bug fixes would be nice. I've yet to see one and nobody who knows seem to care enough to post it.
I have seen elsewhere that a new issue has cropped up: TAB no longer works to take you out of menu maze so now PCers will have to hit ESC 9000 times to get back to the game.
Whaaat, TAB could do that? I'm definitely not updating now.
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Post by Amirit on Jun 10, 2017 18:28:32 GMT
Basically, people won't be happy either way, so might as well just stick to the diverse cast. Buttt, if Bioware can be so easily influenced to changing characters under the fans' pressure, then it would probably for the best to just make the LIs playersexual, would save the devs some money and effort they'd have to spend on "improving" them, and will spare the some sensitive souls the agony of not getting the LI that they wanted. And I will say it once again (though, I know it would never be done "because we need inclusion"): player-sexual characters + additional option on CC for protagonist "sexual orientation" would solve the problem. Just a few lines for male/female romance variation (and characters past relations notion) - and I can not imagine any reason for any complains of that kind ever appear again. Anyway, after what they did with Jaal - creating such a horrible precedent - DA2-style would be the best option for them unless they exclude straight romances in general or prepared to re-write characters on fly.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 18:41:24 GMT
Basically, people won't be happy either way, so might as well just stick to the diverse cast. Buttt, if Bioware can be so easily influenced to changing characters under the fans' pressure, then it would probably for the best to just make the LIs playersexual, would save the devs some money and effort they'd have to spend on "improving" them, and will spare the some sensitive souls the agony of not getting the LI that they wanted. And I will say it once again (though, I know it would never be done "because we need inclusion"): player-sexual characters + additional option on CC for protagonist "sexual orientation" would solve the problem. Just a few lines for male/female romance variation (and characters past relations notion) - and I can not imagine any reason for any complains of that kind ever appear again. Anyway, after what they did with Jaal - creating such a horrible precedent - DA2-style would be the best option for them unless they exclude straight romances in general or prepared to re-write characters on fly. This right here.
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Post by setokaiba on Jun 10, 2017 18:43:18 GMT
Definitely agree with that. Having all the LI's player sexual solves all these kind of problems. Nope, they tried that approach with DA2 and then lots of people complained that it was silly and unrealistic, and that they should give different sexualities to LIs. It's less silly than wasting money, time and a patch to make someone bi because inclusion.
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