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Post by decafhigh on Jun 6, 2017 20:45:23 GMT
Be interesting to see the new preset. Will it be a normal human female or another monster from the deeps? Switching skin textures and additional skin tones should have been done months ago, not sure why it took them soooooooo long to do this. Mod'ers managed this a long time ago.
As for Jaal I could not care less. Now if they had added a Cora/Sara romance that would have been appreciated.
Expected to see more bug fixes as well, hopefully there are more that just aren't listed in the patch notes. Still lots of quest, UI, and cut scene/dialogue bugs that need fixed.
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Post by turianlannister on Jun 6, 2017 20:46:29 GMT
There was not, however, anything either that indicated that he might be interested in men. The only gender he ever expresses an interest in is female like his scar line and how he only flirts with the female crewmates. Even Kaidan had a line in Mass Effect 2 that could be interpreted as him having deeper feelings for Shepard and Anders had a line in Dragon Age: Awakening that could be interpreted as him being flirty towards Nathaniel. I don't recall Jaal having anything . But as I exlain before, he might be a bi with preference for women, the fact that he is flirting more with women does not mean he cannot think of romancing a man, that's the difference. Outside of the Ryder romance Vetra only mentions women she finds attractive. |
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Post by shechinah on Jun 6, 2017 20:46:43 GMT
I mean if you want me to hate on the Asari as a species and concept I can do that as well. Feel free to scoot over and make room for me. I have a few complaints about the asari. Also, I think themikefest wouldn't mind a seat as well.  |
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 20:46:47 GMT
You know who's going like this patch? Players who played as a male Ryder and wanted to romance Jaal but couldn't. Now they got that option. The rest of the players will, uh, you know, play as they have been playing for 2 months now...big change right? BioWare would also make more players happy if they made Suvi bi, but that's not going to happen. BioWare can't decide what they want to do with romances. Supposedly they are in favor of set sexuality (Gaider went on record stating his preference to that over everyone bi ala DA2), but apparently its "set sexualities, so long as someone doesn't get too bothered by it" |
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Post by Furisco on Jun 6, 2017 20:47:10 GMT
Now that stupid scene between Jaal and Liam will make sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 20:47:34 GMT
Suvi was always intended as a lesbian by Sheryl Chee, bi Jaal was patched out of the game before release, it's not the same Can you point me to this? Because cut content is common: Sera, a lesbian option from Dragon Age, has cut content with a male Inquisitor. As far as I know and I may be mistaken but Jaal's cut content with male Ryder amounted to a couple of lines which is typical for cut content and not an indication of a romance availability. Pretty sure he was straight. Patch notes say as much. The bi content in the sound files was just in case. Cora had lines too with Sara. This is something different they've done. Not restore but create. That's pretty awesome. |
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 6, 2017 20:48:25 GMT
DLC retconns canon, why is this any different? There are players who were short-changed being able to get the 3 romances achievement natively, which this neatly addresses. A minority of fans will be annoyed by a side-quest that's bugged, that's no reason not to address it. I won't be playing this myself but I'm delighted for players who will enjoy this content. And its inclusion affects you or I in no way whatsoever, so what possible reason is there to be sour about it? Surely you can see the difference between a DLC and a patch? Were Jaal to be made a M/M romance in a DLC, I'd be less irritated by it than in a patch. DLC's have much more ability to further flesh out characters than patches do. As it stands now the patch seems to be saying "whoops sorry we pissed you off, here have gay Jaal" and not "this is a natural evolution of the character that our writers didn't consider at first" Nope, not going to take up my time arguing with you, I'm too busy being pleased for folk who will enjoy this content and dealing with a few asshats around the forum. This affects no-one who will not play this romance, hence there is zero reason to be sour about it. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Jun 6, 2017 20:48:48 GMT
Now that stupid scene between Jaal and Liam will make sense. Liam: Paffinduh..I... Jaal n I were just exchanging insults bout our dangly bits n one thing led to anuvva... Ryder: NOPE |
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Post by turianlannister on Jun 6, 2017 20:49:44 GMT
The real question is will Scott have a boner when Jaal is going down on him at that beach scene. :amirite: Big dong pointing to the skies. I'd laugh my ass off. That reminds me if you use a certain nude mod in Dragon Age when you find Cailan strung up in Return to Ostagar he's sporting an erection, it also sticks right up out of the fire on his funeral pyre. Someone made a 'clothed prisoners' mod addition for that nude mod iirc |
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Post by Furisco on Jun 6, 2017 20:50:09 GMT
Let them be happy. They fought hard for this. Some haven't even bought the game due to this, and now they can enjoy it like the rest of us. That's pretty sad tbh. |
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 6, 2017 20:50:11 GMT
BioWare would also make more players happy if they made Suvi bi, but that's not going to happen. * Because there are already several romance options for straight Scott. |
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 20:50:51 GMT
Surely you can see the difference between a DLC and a patch? Were Jaal to be made a M/M romance in a DLC, I'd be less irritated by it than in a patch. DLC's have much more ability to further flesh out characters than patches do. As it stands now the patch seems to be saying "whoops sorry we pissed you off, here have gay Jaal" and not "this is a natural evolution of the character that our writers didn't consider at first" Nope, not going to take up my time arguing with you, I'm too busy being pleased for folk who will enjoy this content and dealing with a few asshats around the forum. This affects no-one who will not play this romance, hence there is zero reason to be sour about it. It doesn't diminish the content that's already there sure, and I don't think anyone is saying that it does, at least not in this thread. But saying that this doesn't mean anything beyond the current situation I think is a little shortsighted. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 20:51:21 GMT
BioWare would also make more players happy if they made Suvi bi, but that's not going to happen. * Because there are already several romance options for straight Scott. Too many haha we straight ladies can't even flirt with any males outside our squad and Reyes, but Scott gets them all! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2017 20:51:44 GMT
You know who's going like this patch? Players who played as a male Ryder and wanted to romance Jaal but couldn't. Now they got that option. The rest of the players will, uh, you know, play as they have been playing for 2 months now...big change right? Not really. I have played with Jaal on a female PC, would never romance Jaal again, but I can't wait for the patch to drop because of the CC options and change you appearance on tempest option!!! Acne-free SKIN matters! |
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 20:53:15 GMT
BioWare would also make more players happy if they made Suvi bi, but that's not going to happen. * Because there are already several romance options for straight Scott. Yes (though I would dispute that characters like Avela or reporter asari really fit the bill), and there were two for gay men, unfortunate that the achievement requires three, and whoever made that decision was clearly in the wrong, but that's not what upset me. This wasn't really about balancing the options between sexualities or recognizing the inherent compatibility between Jaal and Scott Ryder, this was about appeasing people who screamed loud enough. |
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Post by themikefest on Jun 6, 2017 20:54:14 GMT
disappointed that Cerberus armor and clothing won't be added. Or having TIM's voice replace the sam voice. Oh well. Here's hoping those will be in the next patch.
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Post by goishen on Jun 6, 2017 20:54:51 GMT
I honestly could not give a shit less about who they made fuckable. Could not give a shit less.
The only thing that I actually do care about is the fact that the dialogue is still a complete dumpster fire.
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Post by samhain444 on Jun 6, 2017 20:55:06 GMT
You know who's going like this patch? Players who played as a male Ryder and wanted to romance Jaal but couldn't. Now they got that option. The rest of the players will, uh, you know, play as they have been playing for 2 months now...big change right? BioWare would also make more players happy if they made Suvi bi, but that's not going to happen. BioWare can't decide what they want to do with romances. Supposedly they are in favor of set sexuality (Gaider went on record stating his preference to that over everyone bi ala DA2), but apparently its "set sexualities, so long as someone doesn't get too bothered by it" There also was a specific reason why Jaal was Bi for male players to attain the "romance" achievement. They addressed the imbalance wit ha character in which this type of intimacy would not appear out of character for himself or his species. From a narrative standpoint, I don't see how it conflicts overall. |
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Post by The Joe-Man on Jun 6, 2017 20:55:11 GMT
Everyone's talking about this gay Jaal thing but this: Is the only thing I care about. Oh my various gods. The Harrier-tock shall rise again! Yep. From here on out my loadout will be one Mattock, one Harrier and one Argus. It will be glorious. |
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Post by colfoley on Jun 6, 2017 20:56:34 GMT
And to those people bitching bw did not release anything on the fourth....two days late. Like i predicted.
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Post by turianlannister on Jun 6, 2017 20:57:56 GMT
But for Jaal? Nothing indicated that he was against romancing a male, we just did not get the chance as a scott ryder to say that we were interested, so no that change does not bother me. Actually, who cares about straight women in general? Always less options than straight males (and now less than gay) - check, those LI's are among least popular squd-mates - check, available LI's can be killed during story or cheat on you - check, LI's can suddenly change their sexuality - check. Guess, straight girls still should be thankful that they are able to get some LI's at all. Really, these are just some bunch of straight women, an obvious insignificant minority in the sea of BW fans. Wait? How are you now getting less options than gay men? You have two squadmate romance options and one non-squadmate romance options Gay men have one squadmate romance option and two non-squadmate romance options. Since when did getting equal (arguably more seeing as you get two squadmate romances to gay ryder's one) treatment amount to getting less? And LIs for straight women are among the least popular squadmates? OK, Jacob wasn't the most popular character but Garrus was one of the most popular characters, Alistair is pretty popular, Cullen is pretty popular. |
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 20:58:16 GMT
BioWare would also make more players happy if they made Suvi bi, but that's not going to happen. BioWare can't decide what they want to do with romances. Supposedly they are in favor of set sexuality (Gaider went on record stating his preference to that over everyone bi ala DA2), but apparently its "set sexualities, so long as someone doesn't get too bothered by it" There also was a specific reason why Jaal was Bi for male players to attain the "romance" achievement. They addressed the imbalance wit ha character in which this type of intimacy would not appear out of character for himself or his species. From a narrative standpoint, I don't see how it conflicts overall. I don't think that the thought process went that way though. I think they found those reasons after caving to pressure, but of course I can't prove my viewpoint. I just, perhaps instinctively, mistrust BioWare's PR talk. |
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Post by obatalaryder on Jun 6, 2017 21:00:44 GMT
Damn, this is cool.
You have to give Bioware props for listening to their fans and recognizing their errors.
Didn't think they'd bother adding a Black Emporium in the game.
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Post by Steelcan on Jun 6, 2017 21:01:44 GMT
Damn, this is cool. You have to give Bioware props for listening to their fans and recognizing their errors. Didn't think they'd bother adding a Black Emporium in the game. there's a difference between listening to, and bowing to the whims of. BioWare too often succumbs to the latter. |
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