Patch 1.08 notes and discussion (June 8, 8AM PDT)

Yes because they shouted loudly enough.

The fans demanding the writers cater to them and the writers caving into them is not something to be celebrated imo.  It was wrong to do it for Tali's inclusion as a squadmate in ME3, it was wrong to do it in ME3's ending, it is wrong to do it now.

I'm mainly disappointed to not see any optimization or performance related notes in there.

I would like to remind everyone that before release, the dataminers had us all convinced that Jaal would be bi, so it seems like they're restoring something that was intended at one point but removed because reasons. Also, current tech does not require the same recording process that was used for the first Mass Effect, so Jaal's dummied out m/m content is not the same as Kaidan's.

I would also like to remind people that being attracted to women and not showing any overt attraction to men does not automatically mean that a man is heterosexual. Bisexual men are attracted to women. I don't know why that is so hard for people to remember.

In addition, Jaal, like Kaidan before him, never rejects the idea of being attracted to another man, the issue just never came up. So the proper term for this situation is a Revision. A Retcon requires actively contradicting something that was shown or stated previously. This is very different from Cullen and Liam, who do have in-game dialogue stating to an interested male PC, "sorry, I'm not attracted to men." So making either of them bisexual would be a retcon.

While I have mixed feelings about this myself, and I am not sure if I would still take the option now that it's available, I do feel that this is probably the best solution for the corner they trapped themselves in. The only other option they really had was to wait until the sequel to add better options, but letting resentment build up over the several years that would take strikes me as a very bad idea.

Now, as for the other patch notes.

If I understand the new augments, I can now convert burst-fire rifles into full-auto rifles. Since I hate burst-fire rifles, this makes me extremely happy.

I'm also pleasantly surprised by the option to use the default Alec with a custom Ryder. The idea never occurred to me before this, but I like it.

Okay, would you honestly be completely fine with this happening with Suvi? 

they said the detailed notes will be closer to the patch release.

To be fair, they never catered to any fans regarding Mass Effect 3's ending.

The ending is still the same, the only thing added was a coda. 

yes.
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I really couldn't care less one way or the other about Jaal. But this conversation is hilarious.

Are people actually saying that fan pressure had nothing to do with Jaal being made bi. Do people actually think that Bioware just sat down one day and said we need to fix this achievement, best way is to make Jaal Bi, and that was all that went into it. I mean C'mon. They obviously caved to fan pressure. They may as well just make every character in the next DA bi, and let everyone romance who they want.

In terms of story, I am fine with it, don't really care that much but just in terms of what this says about the authors and their consistency, yea, changing it now and with this explanation from a company that prided itself on it's artistic integrity seems ... odd. One might almost think they didn't really have a great deal of internal concept or vision for their characters.

On the rest of the patch notes: They mentioned the shield improvement quest bug specifically, so what about the "earning your batch" bug?

I was also really hoping for a quick save function. Go for it in 1.09 please!

Well at least we're making progress with Bioware's flexibility regarding their ART.

It would take characteristics away from LIs, DA devs would never do that...What's that? DA2 had it?... Shit

the only thing that did not change were the choices and that's it.